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energy is conscious \\// consciousness is energy

 
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this coronavirus infected world...
It does seem cthulu won the war for consciousness.
It is chaos, but it can be utilized, won over.
It really depends now what humanity decides to do with it
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I think in the information age, it is transparent for many. Technology seems to be such a a great tool for control but it is out of control, organic. Tech may be better for freedom.
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Yes, it's one of those double edged swords. It can be used for control, but anybody with the will to free themselves, can find the means to do so, through technology in part. It's all about what frame of mind you approach our technology with. The internet is the most massive and free education system ever concieved. More knowledge is available now at no charge than at any point in human history.

Now very few choose to use it in that way...and the social control afforded by social media and other major outlets is undeniable. BUT, to anyone with the will to know the truth, the answers are all out there. Between the internet and the inner dwelling place of the spirit, more questions are answerable than most dare to dream.
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A thought occurs to me. Why did only humans evolve from primates into a fully rational being?

Some say that the primates were especially smart compared to other animals, but that's not really true. Dolphins are more intelligent. Crows mourn their dead, and birds have a system of communication that mirrors our language more closely than any other animal. Elephants are extremely smart too.

So why was primate the species that evolved into a humanoid?
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Don't forget pigs.

From which human males share their missing baculum..

5 reasons Pigs are More Awesome Than You
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A thought occurs to me. Why did only humans evolve from primates into a fully rational being?

Some say that the primates were especially smart compared to other animals, but that's not really true. Dolphins are more intelligent. Crows mourn their dead, and birds have a system of communication that mirrors our language more closely than any other animal. Elephants are extremely smart too.

So why was primate the species that evolved into a humanoid? Or rather, what was it that prevented other species from evolving, too?

Thinking about it, our DNA is more than 99% similar to our primate brethern. Looking at the raw DNA, it's almost impossible to figure out why what IS different, leads us to become humans with all our distinct features and other primates to become other primates. We can't tell, particularly, why the tiny differences in DNA account for the massive difference in what we are.

What accounts for that?
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Maybe the combination of advanced language and dexterity. ? No other animals can make stuff like us. Efficient tools and intelligence building upon one other.
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A thought occurs to me. Why did only humans evolve from primates into a fully rational being?

Some say that the primates were especially smart compared to other animals, but that's not really true. Dolphins are more intelligent. Crows mourn their dead, and birds have a system of communication that mirrors our language more closely than any other animal. Elephants are extremely smart too.

So why was primate the species that evolved into a humanoid?
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Don't forget pigs.

From which human males share their missing baculum..

5 reasons Pigs are More Awesome Than You
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And we eat those...
I think most people, to protect their sensibilities, create exogenous categories out of the animals that humans frequently eat, in order to shield us from the idea that we are consuming something sentient.
We have, probably, some kind of natural bias, that there is something lesser about a pig, cow, and chicken, compared to a dog or a horse.

Nobody wants to hear about the intelligence of an animal that winds up in the pan for breakfast...
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A thought occurs to me. Why did only humans evolve from primates into a fully rational being?

Some say that the primates were especially smart compared to other animals, but that's not really true. Dolphins are more intelligent. Crows mourn their dead, and birds have a system of communication that mirrors our language more closely than any other animal. Elephants are extremely smart too.

So why was primate the species that evolved into a humanoid?
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Don't forget pigs.

From which human males share their missing baculum..

5 reasons Pigs are More Awesome Than You
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https://imgur.com/LAQoVdH

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And we eat those...
I think most people, to protect their sensibilities, create exogenous categories out of the animals that humans frequently eat, in order to shield us from the idea that we are consuming something sentient.
We have, probably, some kind of natural bias, that there is something lesser about a pig, cow, and chicken, compared to a dog or a horse.

Nobody wants to hear about the intelligence of an animal that winds up in the pan for breakfast...
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Some people don't..pigs are very intelligent.

Pig organs and skin are very similar to humans.


Pigs have all of the same thoracic and abdominal organs as humans. There are small differences in a few organs. Liver – the human liver has four lobes: right, left, caudate and quadrate. ... Intestines – there is a significant difference in the structure of the fetal pig colon compared to the human colon.
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A new study has revealed a potential hidden evolutionary link between pigs and primates. Genetic elements called SINES (short interspersed elements) are usually considered to be ‘junk DNA’, left behind by marauding viruses. However, these elements may hold additional clues about our mammalian evolutionary history.
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I've been thinking a lot, recently, about what is missing from evolutionary biology.

We have a long sequence of amino acids sequenced by genetic material, but where is the data about the holistic organism that is being created?

There is something missing. For example, mutations, 99% of the time, are horribly disadvantageous for the organism, they produce nothing useful, mostly, and generally things that are plainly bad.

I know that random chance is the explanation for literally everything in the determinist encyclopedia, but in this respect, the current dogma lacks a lot of explanatory power.

Their explanation for why things are this way rather than another way is simply, "we wouldn't be here if it didn't turn out this way". which is NOT explanation. is not anything really
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I've been thinking a lot, recently, about what is missing from evolutionary biology.

We have a long sequence of amino acids sequenced by genetic material, but where is the data about the holistic organism that is being created?

There is something missing. For example, mutations, 99% of the time, are horribly disadvantageous for the organism, they produce nothing useful, mostly, and generally things that are plainly bad.

I know that random chance is the explanation for literally everything in the determinist encyclopedia, but in this respect, the current dogma lacks a lot of explanatory power.

Their explanation for why things are this way rather than another way is simply, "we wouldn't be here if it didn't turn out this way". which is NOT explanation. is not anything really
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I've been speculating on humans being a pig-ape hybrid, for years now..

Random chance coupled with discovery and ingenuity of humans?

Like how we got beer. Beer came before bread.


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I've been thinking a lot, recently, about what is missing from evolutionary biology.

We have a long sequence of amino acids sequenced by genetic material, but where is the data about the holistic organism that is being created?

There is something missing. For example, mutations, 99% of the time, are horribly disadvantageous for the organism, they produce nothing useful, mostly, and generally things that are plainly bad.

I know that random chance is the explanation for literally everything in the determinist encyclopedia, but in this respect, the current dogma lacks a lot of explanatory power.

Their explanation for why things are this way rather than another way is simply, "we wouldn't be here if it didn't turn out this way". which is NOT explanation. is not anything really
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


I've been speculating on humans being a pig-ape hybrid, for years now..

Random chance coupled with discovery and ingenuity of humans?

Like how we got beer. Beer came before bread.


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I don't believe anything would exist if it were all random chance, the most accessible state of existence is nothingness, as it requires no energy whatsoever.
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I've been thinking a lot, recently, about what is missing from evolutionary biology.

We have a long sequence of amino acids sequenced by genetic material, but where is the data about the holistic organism that is being created?

There is something missing. For example, mutations, 99% of the time, are horribly disadvantageous for the organism, they produce nothing useful, mostly, and generally things that are plainly bad.

I know that random chance is the explanation for literally everything in the determinist encyclopedia, but in this respect, the current dogma lacks a lot of explanatory power.

Their explanation for why things are this way rather than another way is simply, "we wouldn't be here if it didn't turn out this way". which is NOT explanation. is not anything really
 Quoting: Light of my Little Left Eye


I've been speculating on humans being a pig-ape hybrid, for years now..

Random chance coupled with discovery and ingenuity of humans?

Like how we got beer. Beer came before bread.


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
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I don't believe anything would exist if it were all random chance, the most accessible state of existence is nothingness, as it requires no energy whatsoever.
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My speculation presupposes that were a higher order of being doing 'gene splicing' and what have you. I've often wondered if the Egyptian depictions of certain gods with animal heads, to be a clue there.

Of course it might be total nonsense..fun to think about. The missing baculum (penis bone) in the human male, when almost every other mammal has one..is intriguing.


I saw an episode of Alice in Wonderland in the 80s and at one point she is carrying a baby. The baby turns into a pig. It freaked me out and stayed with me for the following 3 decades.

Spirited Away approaches the topic with both her parents turning into pigs when they gorge on food.


There is nothing random about the tiniest bits in our cells. How they do what they do, is the mystery.

Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell..

https://imgur.com/nRKB5t9


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I wouldn't be surprised at all if humanity was genetically engineered. I think it would make sense of some things.
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"Nature and the cosmos are comprised of energies of different types, but the essence of these energies is, no doubt, the same. The energies that come from the farthest planets and stars do not differ from those energies that comprise humankind. In this sense, man himself is a small celestial body, like a planet or star. We shine with our own light or sometimes reflect the light of others, almost like an avatar. The most important thing to understand is that the world turns into a single network through which an infinite amount of energy circulates. The universal wisdom of the ancients is based on this idea: that the small connects to the large, and the large connects to the small. Due to this interplay of energy, there is a connection."


Lynn, Heather. The Anunnaki Connection (pp. 61-62). Red Wheel Weiser. Kindle Edition.
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The additional celestial symbol of the eight-pointed star represents Shamash's twin sister Inanna (later syncretized to Ishtar), goddess of Heaven. They were both Enki's offspring. The text reads, “May Ishtar, the goddess of fighting and war, who unfetters my weapons, my gracious protecting spirit, who loveth my dominion, curse his kingdom in her angry heart; in her great wrath, change his grace into evil, and shatter his weapons on the place of fighting and war. May she create disorder and sedition for him, strike down his warriors, that the earth may drink their blood, and throw down the piles of corpses of his warriors on the field; may she not grant him a life of mercy, deliver him into the hands of his enemies, and imprison him in the land of his enemies” (King, 2018). Inanna/Ishtar was a protector, and her celestial symbol appears to denote her guarding presence overseeing the exchange of power between her brother Shamash and King Hammurabi. A detail that is also important to note is that Shamash is usually depicted with four horns wrapped around his head.

Lynn, Heather. The Anunnaki Connection (pp. 68-69). Red Wheel Weiser. Kindle Edition.
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The additional celestial symbol of the eight-pointed star represents Shamash's twin sister Inanna (later syncretized to Ishtar), goddess of Heaven. They were both Enki's offspring. The text reads, “May Ishtar, the goddess of fighting and war, who unfetters my weapons, my gracious protecting spirit, who loveth my dominion, curse his kingdom in her angry heart; in her great wrath, change his grace into evil, and shatter his weapons on the place of fighting and war. May she create disorder and sedition for him, strike down his warriors, that the earth may drink their blood, and throw down the piles of corpses of his warriors on the field; may she not grant him a life of mercy, deliver him into the hands of his enemies, and imprison him in the land of his enemies” (King, 2018). Inanna/Ishtar was a protector, and her celestial symbol appears to denote her guarding presence overseeing the exchange of power between her brother Shamash and King Hammurabi. A detail that is also important to note is that Shamash is usually depicted with four horns wrapped around his head. Lynn, Heather. The Anunnaki Connection (pp. 68-69). Red Wheel Weiser. Kindle Edition.
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kinda funny, earlier thinking how twins could be incorporated into your mutation post! lol
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The additional celestial symbol of the eight-pointed star represents Shamash's twin sister Inanna (later syncretized to Ishtar), goddess of Heaven. They were both Enki's offspring. The text reads, “May Ishtar, the goddess of fighting and war, who unfetters my weapons, my gracious protecting spirit, who loveth my dominion, curse his kingdom in her angry heart; in her great wrath, change his grace into evil, and shatter his weapons on the place of fighting and war. May she create disorder and sedition for him, strike down his warriors, that the earth may drink their blood, and throw down the piles of corpses of his warriors on the field; may she not grant him a life of mercy, deliver him into the hands of his enemies, and imprison him in the land of his enemies” (King, 2018). Inanna/Ishtar was a protector, and her celestial symbol appears to denote her guarding presence overseeing the exchange of power between her brother Shamash and King Hammurabi. A detail that is also important to note is that Shamash is usually depicted with four horns wrapped around his head. Lynn, Heather. The Anunnaki Connection (pp. 68-69). Red Wheel Weiser. Kindle Edition.
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kinda funny, earlier thinking how twins could be incorporated into your mutation post! lol
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twins is an apt metaphor for many things
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The additional celestial symbol of the eight-pointed star represents Shamash's twin sister Inanna (later syncretized to Ishtar), goddess of Heaven. They were both Enki's offspring. The text reads, “May Ishtar, the goddess of fighting and war, who unfetters my weapons, my gracious protecting spirit, who loveth my dominion, curse his kingdom in her angry heart; in her great wrath, change his grace into evil, and shatter his weapons on the place of fighting and war. May she create disorder and sedition for him, strike down his warriors, that the earth may drink their blood, and throw down the piles of corpses of his warriors on the field; may she not grant him a life of mercy, deliver him into the hands of his enemies, and imprison him in the land of his enemies” (King, 2018). Inanna/Ishtar was a protector, and her celestial symbol appears to denote her guarding presence overseeing the exchange of power between her brother Shamash and King Hammurabi. A detail that is also important to note is that Shamash is usually depicted with four horns wrapped around his head. Lynn, Heather. The Anunnaki Connection (pp. 68-69). Red Wheel Weiser. Kindle Edition.
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kinda funny, earlier thinking how twins could be incorporated into your mutation post! lol
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weren't you a twin that incorporated her twin? lol
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The additional celestial symbol of the eight-pointed star represents Shamash's twin sister Inanna (later syncretized to Ishtar), goddess of Heaven. They were both Enki's offspring. The text reads, “May Ishtar, the goddess of fighting and war, who unfetters my weapons, my gracious protecting spirit, who loveth my dominion, curse his kingdom in her angry heart; in her great wrath, change his grace into evil, and shatter his weapons on the place of fighting and war. May she create disorder and sedition for him, strike down his warriors, that the earth may drink their blood, and throw down the piles of corpses of his warriors on the field; may she not grant him a life of mercy, deliver him into the hands of his enemies, and imprison him in the land of his enemies” (King, 2018). Inanna/Ishtar was a protector, and her celestial symbol appears to denote her guarding presence overseeing the exchange of power between her brother Shamash and King Hammurabi. A detail that is also important to note is that Shamash is usually depicted with four horns wrapped around his head. Lynn, Heather. The Anunnaki Connection (pp. 68-69). Red Wheel Weiser. Kindle Edition.
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kinda funny, earlier thinking how twins could be incorporated into your mutation post! lol
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weren't you a twin that incorporated her twin? lol
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where did you get that impression?
my mother failed to have a male child before I was born, that I do know.
my mom was certain I'd be a boy...but I wasn't...
lmao
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The additional celestial symbol of the eight-pointed star represents Shamash's twin sister Inanna (later syncretized to Ishtar), goddess of Heaven. They were both Enki's offspring. The text reads, “May Ishtar, the goddess of fighting and war, who unfetters my weapons, my gracious protecting spirit, who loveth my dominion, curse his kingdom in her angry heart; in her great wrath, change his grace into evil, and shatter his weapons on the place of fighting and war. May she create disorder and sedition for him, strike down his warriors, that the earth may drink their blood, and throw down the piles of corpses of his warriors on the field; may she not grant him a life of mercy, deliver him into the hands of his enemies, and imprison him in the land of his enemies” (King, 2018). Inanna/Ishtar was a protector, and her celestial symbol appears to denote her guarding presence overseeing the exchange of power between her brother Shamash and King Hammurabi. A detail that is also important to note is that Shamash is usually depicted with four horns wrapped around his head. Lynn, Heather. The Anunnaki Connection (pp. 68-69). Red Wheel Weiser. Kindle Edition.
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kinda funny, earlier thinking how twins could be incorporated into your mutation post! lol
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change one little thing and ... lol
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The additional celestial symbol of the eight-pointed star represents Shamash's twin sister Inanna (later syncretized to Ishtar), goddess of Heaven. They were both Enki's offspring. The text reads, “May Ishtar, the goddess of fighting and war, who unfetters my weapons, my gracious protecting spirit, who loveth my dominion, curse his kingdom in her angry heart; in her great wrath, change his grace into evil, and shatter his weapons on the place of fighting and war. May she create disorder and sedition for him, strike down his warriors, that the earth may drink their blood, and throw down the piles of corpses of his warriors on the field; may she not grant him a life of mercy, deliver him into the hands of his enemies, and imprison him in the land of his enemies” (King, 2018). Inanna/Ishtar was a protector, and her celestial symbol appears to denote her guarding presence overseeing the exchange of power between her brother Shamash and King Hammurabi. A detail that is also important to note is that Shamash is usually depicted with four horns wrapped around his head. Lynn, Heather. The Anunnaki Connection (pp. 68-69). Red Wheel Weiser. Kindle Edition.
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kinda funny, earlier thinking how twins could be incorporated into your mutation post! lol
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weren't you a twin that incorporated her twin? lol
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where did you get that impression? my mother failed to have a male child before I was born, that I do know. my mom was certain I'd be a boy...but I wasn't... lmao
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maybe from a napping dream, while glp was open! lol
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kinda funny, earlier thinking how twins could be incorporated into your mutation post! lol
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weren't you a twin that incorporated her twin? lol
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where did you get that impression? my mother failed to have a male child before I was born, that I do know. my mom was certain I'd be a boy...but I wasn't... lmao
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maybe from a napping dream, while glp was open! lol
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I don't think people can discount dreams, as they often do
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Some theorists like Sitchin have asserted that the Anunnaki genetically engineered early humans. I would have to agree—with one important exception. In days of Sumer, only around six thousand years ago, this genetic manipulation was not done using lasers, lab coats, beakers, or even CRISPR, but rather old-fashioned selective breeding. While there is scientific evidence to suggest that primordial life was seeded, at the stage of life on Earth when the Anunnaki came on the scene, they treated the existing primitive hominids, including Neanderthals, as animals.

Here is how we know this. First, from the texts it is clear that the Anunnaki were against “mixing” with the lower races, the Adamah. They forbade this behavior, yet not all of the Anunnaki obeyed, leading to a hybrid race. Further, it is quite clear in the Epic of Gilgamesh that sex was used in the attempt to tame Enkidu. The Sumerian tablets are filled with sexually explicit accounts and a predominant narrative involving the idea of “seeding,” which was associated with ejaculate fluid. This may explain the prevalence of incest in ancient royal families. This sort of selective breeding was practiced to keep bloodlines pure.


Lynn, Heather. The Anunnaki Connection (p. 112). Red Wheel Weiser. Kindle Edition.
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"And heal the earth which the angels have corrupted, and proclaim the healing of the earth, that they may heal the plague, and that all the children of men may not perish through all the secret things that the Watchers have disclosed and have taught their sons"

Heal the earth which the angels have corrupted?
It seems like such a strange thing to say.
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Yet...Fallen is known.
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"And heal the earth which the angels have corrupted, and proclaim the healing of the earth, that they may heal the plague, and that all the children of men may not perish through all the secret things that the Watchers have disclosed and have taught their sons"

Heal the earth which the angels have corrupted?
It seems like such a strange thing to say.
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Yet...Fallen is known.
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The annunaki, fathered by anu, the sumerian elder god, involves a mystery tradition which predated most others. in description, him and his kin were seen to be the shining ones, often described with blue skin, invoking the concept of blue blood still used by royals today.

it is my hypothesis, that the annunaki are the origins of the ancient priesthood typified today as the illuminati. they have been known as "the secret chiefs". well...

they are also typified as the fallen angels of enoch. but what does this all imply?
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she tries to make it sound so appealing! lol
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she tries to make it sound so appealing! lol
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i'll have to manplain it to her! lol
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she tries to make it sound so appealing! lol
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I'm comfortable with the abyss, also with the flight of the heavens...I don't really think that you can be comfortable with life without some experience with the abyss
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