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What EXACTLY is the liberal dream of a "Utopian" society?

 
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What is it that they are hoping to achieve with all of their lies and destruction of civil society?

They never explain exactly what it is that they want. It is always some ambiguous "fairness" and "justice" and "equality" without anything specific?
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Libtards are merely unwitting footsoldiers for the globalists, same for aetheists and nihilists.

They are cognitively low IQ.
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What is it that they are hoping to achieve with all of their lies and destruction of civil society?

They never explain exactly what it is that they want. It is always some ambiguous "fairness" and "justice" and "equality" without anything specific?
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Did you not see CHAZ in Seattle? The Autonomous Zones?

These filthy inbred gender dysphoric little mistakes can't fathom beyond much else. They're mentally ill. The left gives them a platform and humanity isn't ignoring them.
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To have us stupid blue collar people make all their stupid shit and pay taxes on our labor so they can live in their "educated", elitist, smell their own farts perfect world.
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These liberals don't mean too much harm though. We have mroe in common than we don't, believe t or not. Propaganda exist to make you hate people you don't know. They're anti-war, anto-billionaire and they want the weaker people to be cared after better.

I don't think these are bad things.
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These liberals don't mean too much harm though. We have mroe in common than we don't, believe t or not. Propaganda exist to make you hate people you don't know. They're anti-war, anto-billionaire and they want the weaker people to be cared after better.

I don't think these are bad things.
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You make good points.

But there are small rule changes that accomplish the same thing minus a totalitarian redistribution of wealth, which we know doesn't work.

Some changes to tax code, fine, but soak the rich never works. It doesn't raise enough money and eventually, the taxes required to provide free benefits for everyone and all of the free riders consumes all of a society's wealth and it disintegrates.

To start, change corporate laws to make them less powerful in lobbying and the preferential legal treatments.

Second, repeal Nafta. If there were a successful middle class with low skill manufacturing jobs capable of sustaining a family with one working parent in good style, we would never have heard of Antifa.

These people are correctly outraged at Arby's considered a job opportunity.

No question the investor class has removed costs but they have also removed prosperity for the labor that provides the good and services. Very greedy and short sighted and that's how revolutions happen.
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liberalism = tech singularity = humans FUBAR
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What is it that they are hoping to achieve with all of their lies and destruction of civil society?

They never explain exactly what it is that they want. It is always some ambiguous "fairness" and "justice" and "equality" without anything specific?
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what exactly is the conservative dream of a "utopian" society?
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Traditional conservative people don't believe in utopia; we know it is a delusional form of self-idolatry.

We accept natural inequality. We embrace liberty, freedom of thought and association.

We know it is not perfect but it is the best we can hope for and look to Our Lord and Savior for hope and courage.
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Civil society usually means one that is controlled at the top. Everyone gets the same education and natural skills are not vetted at an early age.

Utopian societies have endured for millennia's if you know where to look. They well understood the sciences, math and astronomy and the skills best suited for each person, rather than wasting it in 12+ years of education. This is a big planet (see link below). To succeed in a Utopian society you must know the planet and its value to human society while preserving vital resources.

Natural inequality now that's a strange thing to endear ones self to especially given the percentage of conservatives that claim to be Christians, not realizing that the 'Eve from Adam's rib' story is all about equality.
She was meant to be by his side and equal, not behind him like Old Testament Christians perceive equality/inequalities. smh

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What is it that they are hoping to achieve with all of their lies and destruction of civil society?

They never explain exactly what it is that they want. It is always some ambiguous "fairness" and "justice" and "equality" without anything specific?
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I'm a liberal so I'll explain:

Conservatives fuck off to a different country and compete with each other until they are all slaves to a corporation. They can go ahead and be racists, pollute all you want on your own land, and illegalize all drugs, gambling, and science.

The rest of us redistribute all of the billionaires wealth, supply free higher education and healthcare, design new technologies, heal with psychedelics, and have a constant and endless stream of festivals, creative expression, and artistic/scientific spaces.
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And once "the billionaires money" is gone, all the liberals starve to death. Brilliant.
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What is it that they are hoping to achieve with all of their lies and destruction of civil society?

They never explain exactly what it is that they want. It is always some ambiguous "fairness" and "justice" and "equality" without anything specific?
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I'm a liberal so I'll explain:

Conservatives fuck off to a different country and compete with each other until they are all slaves to a corporation. They can go ahead and be racists, pollute all you want on your own land, and illegalize all drugs, gambling, and science.

The rest of us redistribute all of the billionaires wealth, supply free higher education and healthcare, design new technologies, heal with psychedelics, and have a constant and endless stream of festivals, creative expression, and artistic/scientific spaces.
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And once "the billionaires money" is gone, all the liberals starve to death. Brilliant.
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well, first they'd come after the millionaires, then the thousandaires, and lastly the hundredaires, then they'd starve to death.
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I'm a liberal so I'll explain:

Conservatives fuck off to a different country and compete with each other until they are all slaves to a corporation. They can go ahead and be racists, pollute all you want on your own land, and illegalize all drugs, gambling, and science.

The rest of us redistribute all of the billionaires wealth, supply free higher education and healthcare, design new technologies, heal with psychedelics, and have a constant and endless stream of festivals, creative expression, and artistic/scientific spaces.
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Once you steal money from your "billionaires" - which won't be enough to do anything - where do you expect to acquire the money and resources to pay the teachers at your institutions of higher learning; the doctors at your psychedelic clinics; and the stagehands and performers at your endless festivals?

Perhaps they will be expected to work for free. How just and fair.
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Marxists are so stupid, defeating them in debate is child's play.
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"Marxist"

Anyone who doesn't let multimillionaires run their cocks all the way down their throats and the throats of their wives and children

Congratulations conservacuck.

Keep worshipping millionaires. It's literally all you're good for.
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And who does Wall St., the media millionaires, and all the Tech billionaires support again????? Oh yeah, Democrats.
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What’s funny is 99% of you dumb shits would actually live a better life under socialism. But they aren’t preaching that or implementing it. You morans just believe everything you read,
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Well, maybe you should point out a SUCCESSFUL "socialist" country so we could understand. And not the little all white European countries who depend on the US to provide free defense so they can spend on their own money on social giveaways. Show us a "diverse" socialist country that works?????
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You're the most clueless person I've ever seen.
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Yes, asking questions about the SPECIFICS that liberals want makes me "clueless." Learning facts is a sin for liberals today. You most certainly are a Biden fan.
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Your question can't be answered. Even liberals can't agree on what they want. No matter what is provided to them, they will complain. It's asinine to consider them sane. It's like letting a 3 year old run the family.
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So a system is badly broken if it just blanketly allows everyone the same voting power. The Founding Fathers did not approve of that and they were correct.

If you are going to allow women, the base of the Democrat party, to vote in Federal elections, there has to be other qualifications implemented for EVERYONE. Minimum IQ score on 3 separate tests, etc. Yes, most liberals will not qualify to vote in Federal elections with such requirements but the country will survive and thrive.
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Utopia

The Old Testament actually left clues for us to get to a Utopian society quicker than without their rules. It is contained within the 'Tower of Babel civilization'.

Growing up, we're exposed through religion(s) of an Eden paradise described as a Garden.
History also tells us of the mythological garden known as the mysterious and mesmerizing Babylonian Hanging Gardens.
Coincidentally scripture also defines a civilization known as Babylon.

The Tower of Babel civilization has been referenced as an advanced civilization who left 'rules' in place to reach the fabled Utopian Eden at a quicker pace.
This truth has been left in care of the archaic monuments so that in the time of Truth, collectively we will understand that Apocalypse means 'unveiling'.
At the time of truths unveiling, the ancient monuments will speak.
Humanity will be able to read them.

Machu Eden's Hanging Paradise Gardens (Utopia)

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What is it that they are hoping to achieve with all of their lies and destruction of civil society?

They never explain exactly what it is that they want. It is always some ambiguous "fairness" and "justice" and "equality" without anything specific?
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Liberals are a TOOL that the Global Cabal uses to achieve its goals of domination. Once the goal is achieved - the liberals will be purged as undesirables.

And the goal is Global Domination by the Cabal.
They want you stupid, brown, sterile, dumbed down, obedient worker bee / slave in a large city-concentration-camps/worker factories WHILE they live outside of the city-factories in mega mansions. That's their fucking utopian dream...
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Conservatives fuck off to a different country and compete with each other until they are all slaves to a corporation.



This statement from a leftist is very illuminating.

He think working for a corporation - an institution that started with someone else's labor and capital and provides goods or services that people willingly pay for - is equivalent to slavery.

Anyone with common sense knows this is untrue. While corporate working life has unpleasant aspects, it is not slavery.

People provide the corporation with work and the corporation provides the workers with money. That is not slavery. (Real wages have not grown in a long time and that is bad but another discussion.)

Marxists are unable to comprehend the voluntary exchange of labor for capital.

The understand neither labor nor capital.

Capital just means money. And all money is obtained only in exchange for labor.

They will of course claim the original capital was stolen or something, but even that is the fruit of labor, even if unsavory.

The larger point is lost on them. If you want there to be labor, there has to be capital.

How do we know that is lost on them? Because they demand free shit, never comprehending that some real human being has to provide the labor to provide it.

Of course, we know that Marxist states have a simple solution to that problem and that is forced labor - real slavery - or the widely preferred option of killing a large percentage of the population and confiscating their assets to provide the free benefits without the bother of capital inputs for labor.
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I'm a liberal so I'll explain:

Conservatives fuck off to a different country and compete with each other until they are all slaves to a corporation. They can go ahead and be racists, pollute all you want on your own land, and illegalize all drugs, gambling, and science.

The rest of us redistribute all of the billionaires wealth, supply free higher education and healthcare, design new technologies, heal with psychedelics, and have a constant and endless stream of festivals, creative expression, and artistic/scientific spaces.
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Liberal Utopia...Everything is free but there isn't any.
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This clown is just a dope head who wants free pot and Burning Man tickets. I guess that is best Comrade Marx and Co. can come up with tonight.
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Pot is free dumbfuck, it grows out of the ground and it grows anywhere.

The only reason it's not is because conservative DUMBFUCKS made it a reason to ruin people lives. It's not.

Burning man is also a functioning economy, and any human being would rather be in burning man than in one of your conservative run hell holes like Georgia or Florida. LOL.
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Burningman is NOT a functioning economy. The "Gifting Economy" only works supported by the Capitalist work the participants have to do before the event to you know afford the tickets and supplies for living a week in the desert. Burningman only works for a week because people can bring everything they need with them for that week. I guarantee you cut off the outside Capitalist lifeline of food, water, porta potty pumping, fuel, medical care they would all be starving, dying, and living in squalor within a month. I guarantee that if you attempted to do a Burningman event, 100% isolated from the outside world for a month. Within the 2 or 3rd week all those of means you know the types that run the "plug n play" camps would book it out of there as soon as their supplies ran out from their own use and "gifting" to all the freeloading sparkle ponies who brought nothing more than could fit in a small backpack. You'd be left with nothing but dirty hippies by the end of the month trying to figure out how to turn the desert dust into an edible meal.
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The current version of liberal rabble just want free shit and dope.

The nasty rich elite liberals want to use the rabble to destroy any sense of middle class or races that are too smart to see what they are doing.
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The current version of liberal rabble just want free shit and dope.

The nasty rich elite liberals want to use the rabble to destroy any sense of middle class or races that are too smart to see what they are doing.
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Thread: Democrats/commies stirring up and using blacks since 1969. All planned.
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The current version of liberal rabble just want free shit and dope.

The nasty rich elite liberals want to use the rabble to destroy any sense of middle class or races that are too smart to see what they are doing.
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Thread: Democrats/commies stirring up and using blacks since 1969. All planned.
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This.
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What is it that they are hoping to achieve with all of their lies and destruction of civil society?

They never explain exactly what it is that they want. It is always some ambiguous "fairness" and "justice" and "equality" without anything specific?
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Just like everything else in a liberals mind, "delusional."
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Have whitey build the modern society for them and then eliminate whitey. And expect that the welfare checks will keep flowing endlessly.
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Just like everything else in a liberals mind, "delusional."
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Liberals= emotions/dreams
Conservatives= logic/facts

You cannot eat emotions/dreams for long.
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What’s funny is 99% of you dumb shits would actually live a better life under socialism. But they aren’t preaching that or implementing it. You morans just believe everything you read,
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Are you so naive and ignorant of history to really believe that? Do you think Pelosi has $5,000 fridge's full of designer ice cream because she is redistributing the wealth to her constituents? How do you think she became worth so much money?

History has proven time and again. An overreaching govt. in it's failed attempt to fairly distribute resources will result in the ruling elite having more and the average Joe having even less than he has now.

That govt. is best which governs the least is what we were suposed to be founded on. Now, we have 30,000,000 govt. employees with way better pensions than us 99%. Do you reaslly think they wil give those up so we are all fair?
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Just like everything else in a liberals mind, "delusional."
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Liberals= emotions/dreams
Conservatives= logic/facts

You cannot eat emotions/dreams for long.
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Bingo.
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Probably something like brave new world. Everyone constantly taking mind numbing drugs and fucking each other without long term relationships. Government/AI control and tracking over all of society.
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It's already like that.
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Probably something like brave new world. Everyone constantly taking mind numbing drugs and fucking each other without long term relationships. Government/AI control and tracking over all of society.
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It's already like that.
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What is it that they are hoping to achieve with all of their lies and destruction of civil society?

They never explain exactly what it is that they want. It is always some ambiguous "fairness" and "justice" and "equality" without anything specific?
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What they want is a USA without whitey. They actually believe the USA will be the same without whites. And yes, they are that stupid.
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What is it that they are hoping to achieve with all of their lies and destruction of civil society?

They never explain exactly what it is that they want. It is always some ambiguous "fairness" and "justice" and "equality" without anything specific?
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the elite' being ultra rich and the rest a bunch of slaves... Like in "Soylant Green"





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