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Anonymous Coward User ID: 332394 United States 12/07/2007 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's compare. Quoting: It's a setup! 336069The kid they say who did the shooting: [link to newsimg.bbc.co.uk] The person who is on video camera footage doing the shooting: [link to i.l.cnn.net] They look tottaly different. What a setup! man you can't tell the difference, the mall pic is blurry as shit. |
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malu User ID: 321190 United States 12/07/2007 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I asked yesterday, and today, and I will ask again, Quoting: Pit ViperWHY WAS HOMELAND SECURITY AND FBI AGENTS ALREADY IN THE MALL AT THE TIME OF THE SHOOTING????????? probably the same reason they were at the oklahoma city bombing, the BATF was the first on the scene No, they were in the mall already before he started shooting. this was reported on MSNBC yesterday. Supposedly they were speaking to the mall security personal about their security. All seems alittle too coincidental to me. i know, i am agreeing with you "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 332382 United States 12/07/2007 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | an ak has a thirty round mag, and he only killed 9 people? that is some piss poor shooting! seriously Quoting: maluIt takes our military 4000 rounds to kill 1 combatant in Iraq. If you are such a sharpshooter, join the military and become a weapons instructor. actually it takes one million rounds, i served thank you just looking at the pics again on cnn, what struck me as odd was the camera would have to be at face level to get that shot, have you ever seen a camera at that level? the ones i have seen are all above head level, looking down,, seems really odd shit, you're totally right. fuck! i'm sick of these muthafuckers thinking they can keep puttin one over on us! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 327107 United States 12/07/2007 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Inside a first-floor dressing room at Von Maur, Julie used her cell phone to call KETV NewsWatch 7 and report that she was with a group of girls and they were scared. Julie said she heard noise getting closer, but she didn't know what had happened. She said she went out of the dressing room and saw other people in the store running and laying down, so she went back into the dressing room. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 771Are you kidding me? this group of girls has KETV on speed dial ? Wouldnt you call 911 in this situation? |
malu User ID: 321190 United States 12/07/2007 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | an ak has a thirty round mag, and he only killed 9 people? that is some piss poor shooting! seriously Quoting: Anonymous Coward 332382It takes our military 4000 rounds to kill 1 combatant in Iraq. If you are such a sharpshooter, join the military and become a weapons instructor. actually it takes one million rounds, i served thank you just looking at the pics again on cnn, what struck me as odd was the camera would have to be at face level to get that shot, have you ever seen a camera at that level? the ones i have seen are all above head level, looking down,, seems really odd shit, you're totally right. fuck! i'm sick of these muthafuckers thinking they can keep puttin one over on us! so how odd is that , that they would have a face level camera and just the right spot? unreal? yes, by my estimates "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
compare pictures... User ID: 336069 United States 12/07/2007 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The kid who supposebly did the shooting, as taken by a video camera as he entered into the mall: [link to i.l.cnn.net] The person who did the shooting, as taken by a video camera as he was shooting: [link to i.l.cnn.net] They look different. The shooter looks older, shorter, and has a patch of chin hair. |
what i think happened... User ID: 336069 United States 12/07/2007 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 325699 United States 12/07/2007 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LIGHTBULB: we can call the mall, the stores in the mall, talk to managers, employees, etc. someone will talk, someone will tell us what really went down. how much do you wana bet there was more than one shooter? i bet you all a million dollars that sorcha's story is right on the money. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 332382 United States 12/07/2007 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Inside a first-floor dressing room at Von Maur, Julie used her cell phone to call KETV NewsWatch 7 and report that she was with a group of girls and they were scared. Julie said she heard noise getting closer, but she didn't know what had happened. She said she went out of the dressing room and saw other people in the store running and laying down, so she went back into the dressing room. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 327107Are you kidding me? this group of girls has KETV on speed dial ? Wouldnt you call 911 in this situation? wtf!! what story was this in? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5174 United States 12/07/2007 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The kid who supposebly did the shooting, as taken by a video camera as he entered into the mall: Quoting: compare pictures... 336069[link to i.l.cnn.net] The person who did the shooting, as taken by a video camera as he was shooting: [link to i.l.cnn.net] They look different. The shooter looks older, shorter, and has a patch of chin hair. Let me see if I got this right, he walks into the mall with a concealed SKS, then he gets on an elevator, takes out the SKS, rolls the sleeves of his black shirt up OVER the sleeves of his thermal undershirt (all the while the SKS is where? on the floor? OK. The he comes out, grows a quick five o-clock shadow, has his hair permed and then starts shooting near the only head level security camera on the mall and happens to hit 6 out of 8 people who just all happen to be employees of the same store? Did I miss anything? |
Evil Twin User ID: 9991 United States 12/07/2007 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmmm...that head on face level shot is interesting. I've installed about a bazillion security cameras in commercial buildings, and never once in a position to capture an image like that. Also, they were reporting on the radio last night he used an SKS, but that is definitely an AK. |
Pit Viper User ID: 335160 United States 12/07/2007 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The kid who supposebly did the shooting, as taken by a video camera as he entered into the mall: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5174[link to i.l.cnn.net] The person who did the shooting, as taken by a video camera as he was shooting: [link to i.l.cnn.net] They look different. The shooter looks older, shorter, and has a patch of chin hair. Let me see if I got this right, he walks into the mall with a concealed SKS, then he gets on an elevator, takes out the SKS, rolls the sleeves of his black shirt up OVER the sleeves of his thermal undershirt (all the while the SKS is where? on the floor? OK. The he comes out, grows a quick five o-clock shadow, has his hair permed and then starts shooting near the only head level security camera on the mall and happens to hit 6 out of 8 people who just all happen to be employees of the same store? Did I miss anything? I guess that about sums it up. Oh, except you forgot to add Federal agents were already in the mall. You know thats their new hangout. Scor~Pios -AKA- Pit Viper 'When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; When the government fears the people, there is liberty.' Thomas Jefferson Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people. "It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." - Samuel Adams |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 336415 United States 12/07/2007 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The kid who supposebly did the shooting, as taken by a video camera as he entered into the mall: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5174[link to i.l.cnn.net] The person who did the shooting, as taken by a video camera as he was shooting: [link to i.l.cnn.net] They look different. The shooter looks older, shorter, and has a patch of chin hair. Let me see if I got this right, he walks into the mall with a concealed SKS, then he gets on an elevator, takes out the SKS, rolls the sleeves of his black shirt up OVER the sleeves of his thermal undershirt (all the while the SKS is where? on the floor? OK. The he comes out, grows a quick five o-clock shadow, has his hair permed and then starts shooting near the only head level security camera on the mall and happens to hit 6 out of 8 people who just all happen to be employees of the same store? Did I miss anything? It was an AK. Look at the front iron sight. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 322429 United Kingdom 12/07/2007 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | an ak has a thirty round mag, and he only killed 9 people? that is some piss poor shooting! seriously Quoting: maluQuestion for you Malu. Are you THE Malu from the west coast ? Every time I read your replies, every time I see your posts... I think dammit man, are you THE Malu ? for real ? here on GLP ? If not, my apologise, but if so....Hot Dammit dude ! awesomeness. As for piss poor shooting, nine from 30 is like... dammit even the air force cooks can shoot better ! |
bilthy User ID: 165856 Canada 12/07/2007 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does everything have to be a damn conspiracy to you loons? You can't just accept the fact the same kid went crazy and shot up the mall? You have to involve the government somehow? Get lives people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 336789what are you doing here then? 8888888@@@@@@@@@@88888888 88888@@@::````````@@@@88888 8888@:::``````````````@@@8888 88@::'``````````````````@@@88 8@::'````````````````````@@@8 8@::``````````````````:``@@@8 @@::'`````^`/`````````:``@@@8 8@::'`@@@::*`''::@@@'::```@@8 8@'''@@@@@:`:@@@@@'``@@@8 88@'''`@@:::`^::::@@'````@@@88 8@::``````:/@Y``````````@@888 8@Y:`*````^@^```*:::::::/@@888 88888@::```````````:@@@@8888 88888@::L`L`L`L`L``':@@@@@888 88888@::I`I`I`I`I`i``:@@@@8888 8888888@:::::::::::::@@@8888888 8888888@@@@@@@@@@8888888 |
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malu User ID: 321190 United States 12/07/2007 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | an ak has a thirty round mag, and he only killed 9 people? that is some piss poor shooting! seriously Quoting: Anonymous Coward 322429Question for you Malu. Are you THE Malu from the west coast ? Every time I read your replies, every time I see your posts... I think dammit man, are you THE Malu ? for real ? here on GLP ? If not, my apologise, but if so....Hot Dammit dude ! awesomeness. As for piss poor shooting, nine from 30 is like... dammit even the air force cooks can shoot better ! ?? i have always been Malu on this forum and several others, west coast of michigan, it is a nick derived from an old brazilian girlfriend, i have never heard that name used anywhere else anywho, that was my point, if you are shooting fish in a barrel you should get ALL the fish, but apparently only specific fish were targeted,, odd "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5174 United States 12/07/2007 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The kid who supposebly did the shooting, as taken by a video camera as he entered into the mall: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 336415[link to i.l.cnn.net] The person who did the shooting, as taken by a video camera as he was shooting: [link to i.l.cnn.net] They look different. The shooter looks older, shorter, and has a patch of chin hair. Let me see if I got this right, he walks into the mall with a concealed SKS, then he gets on an elevator, takes out the SKS, rolls the sleeves of his black shirt up OVER the sleeves of his thermal undershirt (all the while the SKS is where? on the floor? OK. The he comes out, grows a quick five o-clock shadow, has his hair permed and then starts shooting near the only head level security camera on the mall and happens to hit 6 out of 8 people who just all happen to be employees of the same store? Did I miss anything? It was an AK. Look at the front iron sight. SKS Model 56- [link to i23.photobucket.com] AK 47 is fully auto, where'd an unemployed former McDonalds worker/ward of the state get the $ for a fully auto- and illegal I might add- AK? I don't think so. You can pick up a model 56 for $150. One other point, not that it means anything, but a nice looking young man, already a ward of the state, on perscription meds in the Omaha area? [link to www.franklingate.com] Franklingate ring any bells? |
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malu User ID: 321190 United States 12/07/2007 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The kid who supposebly did the shooting, as taken by a video camera as he entered into the mall: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5174[link to i.l.cnn.net] The person who did the shooting, as taken by a video camera as he was shooting: [link to i.l.cnn.net] They look different. The shooter looks older, shorter, and has a patch of chin hair. Let me see if I got this right, he walks into the mall with a concealed SKS, then he gets on an elevator, takes out the SKS, rolls the sleeves of his black shirt up OVER the sleeves of his thermal undershirt (all the while the SKS is where? on the floor? OK. The he comes out, grows a quick five o-clock shadow, has his hair permed and then starts shooting near the only head level security camera on the mall and happens to hit 6 out of 8 people who just all happen to be employees of the same store? Did I miss anything? It was an AK. Look at the front iron sight. SKS Model 56- [link to i23.photobucket.com] AK 47 is fully auto, where'd an unemployed former McDonalds worker/ward of the state get the $ for a fully auto- and illegal I might add- AK? I don't think so. You can pick up a model 56 for $150. One other point, not that it means anything, but a nice looking young man, already a ward of the state, on perscription meds in the Omaha area? [link to www.franklingate.com] Franklingate ring any bells? first, that pic of the SKS is with an aftermarket extended mag,20 rounder, not standard issue second, the pics i have seen it is clearly an AK, which btw, do come in semi automatic, by far the majority of them in the USA come in semi auto, $300 is a normal price "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 320730 United States 12/07/2007 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to story.news.ask.com] Look at the three pics. First pic shows him with gun raised and no time. Second pic shows him entering mall at 13:42:33, third pic shows him in mall moments before shooting started time 13:36:27. How does he enter mall after he is already in there? Why does the first pic not have a time on it? All surveillance videos have a time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5174 United States 12/07/2007 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can't possibly be talking about the one posted on this thread, there's no way you can call what piece that is from that blurry ass photo- and I won't argue the point, I only know that I heard SKS on the news the first day- a single shot weapon- and AK every day since, which suggests mmedia manipulation to INFER assault weapon. And anyone who is going to argue after market alterations off a photo like that- jesus dude, get a job with Jayne's because you have a gift. |
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Evil Twin User ID: 9991 United States 12/07/2007 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can't possibly be talking about the one posted on this thread, there's no way you can call what piece that is from that blurry ass photo- and I won't argue the point, I only know that I heard SKS on the news the first day- a single shot weapon- and AK every day since, which suggests mmedia manipulation to INFER assault weapon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5174And anyone who is going to argue after market alterations off a photo like that- jesus dude, get a job with Jayne's because you have a gift. There is a major difference in front sight profiles between an SKS and an AK, owning both, I can tell the difference, even in that blurry photo. The AK sight is much taller, as is the gas tube and rear sight sitting on top of that. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5174 United States 12/07/2007 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can't possibly be talking about the one posted on this thread, there's no way you can call what piece that is from that blurry ass photo- and I won't argue the point, I only know that I heard SKS on the news the first day- a single shot weapon- and AK every day since, which suggests mmedia manipulation to INFER assault weapon. Quoting: Evil TwinAnd anyone who is going to argue after market alterations off a photo like that- jesus dude, get a job with Jayne's because you have a gift. There is a major difference in front sight profiles between an SKS and an AK, owning both, I can tell the difference, even in that blurry photo. The AK sight is much taller, as is the gas tube and rear sight sitting on top of that. I own one and have used the other, so I am not unfamiliar, my question to you is where are you looking at this definitive photo, because the only one I have seen of the weapon is the one with him holding up the rifle in the single undated/timestamped image and that isn't clear enough to make that determination. Where do you see the rear sight or gas tube? Anyway, I went to look at the directory for the mall and there is no "Ready To Wear", so what's that on the camera? [link to www.westroadsmall.com] Where exactly is the kid entering? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 332382 United States 12/07/2007 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to story.news.ask.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 320730Look at the three pics. First pic shows him with gun raised and no time. Second pic shows him entering mall at 13:42:33, third pic shows him in mall moments before shooting started time 13:36:27. How does he enter mall after he is already in there? Why does the first pic not have a time on it? All surveillance videos have a time. SPOT....ON!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 325699 United States 12/07/2007 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to story.news.ask.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 320730Look at the three pics. First pic shows him with gun raised and no time. Second pic shows him entering mall at 13:42:33, third pic shows him in mall moments before shooting started time 13:36:27. How does he enter mall after he is already in there? Why does the first pic not have a time on it? All surveillance videos have a time. thankyou, this is basically hard evidence that this whole thing is rigged. good work. he's right people, it shows the "shooter" walking into the mall after the shootings took place, look at the times. WTF how much longer are we going to let this shit keep happening? |