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tittybump
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titbump
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OP, I was with you until your last 2 sentences:

The questions will only get asked once the damage of the distortions will become self evident. By then it may be too late.

The damage is more than self evident and has been since 2008, as you say yourself. And as you also say, it's been too late for a long time, maybe since 2008. We're trapped now in "Modern Monetary Theory", which I describe as whistling past the graveyard.

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The Financial Crash in 2008 was NEVER really fixed.

They just put a band aid on it, threw a couple of guys off the bus and quietly made some shady deals in the back room.

Who's to say times are any different today? Oh sure, they came up with a flashy, fear-porn hoax for distraction. But that's not quite going the way they hoped.

I say they'll just do the old "Rinse and Repeat" and throw some goodies our way to shut us up again!
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that looks like my ass
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Nice ass
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I had em by the short hairs in silver back before 2008. They were on the ropes, no way out.
~But~
The gov allowed the banks to do WHATEVER it took to keep themselves functioning. WHATEVER.
They referred to their nefarious schemes as
"extraordinary measures."
Actions that would have landed the whole lot of them in prison just a few years before.
Silver and gold soared, especially silver.
Then, in spring 2011 they orchestrated the biggest raid on the PMs markets in history. They have been buying stocks, raiding gold and silver, printing fiat with abandon, carrying agenda serving companies such as Amazon, McDonalds, Tesla, Microsoft, big pharma, Boeing, APPLE and others ever since.
They let the gov run riot with easy fiat, buying elections, bombing countries, distributing special perks to billionaires like Gates, Zuckerberg and Bezos ever since.
Now the dollar is on the knife edge of a giant cliff and when it crashes the whole world will fall into economic chaos.
Strap in, wear a helmet. Try not to let them kill you.
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07/29/2021 08:23 PM
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As Max Keiser says "you can't taper a Ponzi scheme"
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The Central banks cannot stop printing money at this point, it's the only trick they have left and they will continue to do so until oblivion (end of the dollar).
The dollar is already decimated, already being dumped as the world's reserve currency.
The Fed will create their new fed coin and the peasants will be happy with their 'free' money they will receive.
Fed currency will use expiry dates to stimulate or cool the economy as needed. It used to be interest rates were the balancing levers of the economy but that is long gone with all the QE.
So in future you will talk about your money with 2 factors.....how much you have and when it needs to be spent by.

Right now it's all musical chairs. 80% of the chairs have been removed but whilst the music keeps playing (QE) no one has to sit down and let that reality kick in.
Just keep on dancing keep on dancing
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Game over. Occam’s Razor: The simplest explanation is often the best one. Central banks will never extract themselves. Whether they ultimately end QE is besides the point. They won’t reduce their balance sheets. They can’t.

Powell’s “performance” yesterday was not an accident. He’s been running on the same theme of offering absolutely zero specifics. Why?

3 reasons:

1. There are none as there is no plan.

2. To maintain flexibility and not to be held accountable or anything

3. To not upset markets.

We saw this recently when he actually got challenged on MBS and QE. He couldn’t and wouldn’t offer a rationale as to what is actually economically accomplished by it:




Why? Because popping the largest asset bubble ever would result in a catastrophic reset, not only a recession, but a depression.

The reality is debt levels have so exploded in the past 13 years any pre GFC type interest rates (which were historically low back then) would collapse the entire system. They know it. I know it, you know it. The entire system is predicated on debt expansion and cheap money to sustain it. That’s it.


How do you unwind something like this without causing a giant equity and economic collapse? Occam’s Razor: You can’t. And hence no central bank is even pretending to speak about it. And no media organization is even bothering to ask them. Taper is a performance act to pretend to get back to some path of normal. News flash: There is no path to normal. The opportunity was there in 2017-2019 and they all failed to take advantage of it at the time and now the Fed has doubled its balance sheet again since last year. They couldn’t extract themselves from a $4.5 trillion balance sheet without blowing up markets. They sure as hell won’t be able to from an $8.2 trillion going on $9 trillion balance sheet. Game Over. Don’t play again.

What then does the future hold? Well, you heard it from Mohammed El-Erian: “the Fed will most likely continue to disconnect asset prices even more from fundamentals. Wealth inequality will worsen more. The Fed’s monthly purchases of $40B of MBS will continue to price people out of the housing market.”

How is this the Fed’s mandate? How will this accomplish anything other than fracture society even further to the core? How does propagating an ever larger asset bubble promote financial stability? Baffling. Investors won’t care about these questions at the moment as the gains keep coming. The questions will only get asked once the damage of the distortions will become self evident. By then it may be too late.
 Quoting: Don Draper from Nantucket



The law of parsimony always applies in large open systems (this might be one, in which case your assessment is correct). The neutral observer here is neither surprised nor unprepared though as the logical outcome is as you say. This assumption, taken with other exigent realities makes us wonder how open the system really is, and how obvious the expected outcomes will be...plan accordingly.
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Where's that earth destroying asteroid? Let's just get this over with already!
 Quoting: LimaIndiaSierra


Yeah this is really getting old now! They're not even hiding it anymore!
 Quoting: Don Draper from Nantucket



 Quoting: LittleMe


That was a whole lot of words spoken in order to avoid having to say the h word.

Yellen actually said it, last month I think, which was surprising.
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^mods are slipping
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Where's that earth destroying asteroid? Let's just get this over with already!
 Quoting: LimaIndiaSierra


Yeah this is really getting old now! They're not even hiding it anymore!
 Quoting: Don Draper from Nantucket



 Quoting: LittleMe


That was a whole lot of words spoken in order to avoid having to say the h word.

Yellen actually said it, last month I think, which was surprising.
 Quoting: bootobin



Powell looks like an alien to me.
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Yes, it's the plan and answers why the future was ignored by governments these last years.

It's not really hidden but dependent upon most modern folks getting their information from malleable electronic mediums, believing nebulous experts and that "someone else" will do the heavy lifting in regards to acquiring accurate information.

It's a centuries old plan that started with elitist savants and further developed with think tanks and "Sentient World Models" by computers. They can model individual's reactions by the very data they volunteer on Google's empire, Facebook, etc.

Klaus Schwab of the World Economic Forum literally laid it out in a book "Covid 19: The Great Reset" and there are piles of other documents spread across the web.

There is much deliberate disinformation being spread to discredit proponents of this idea, along with mass censorship across all electronic mediums.

The virus is carefully planned and so is the shot.

This is a deliberate, long planned war.
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The entire system is predicated on debt expansion and cheap money to sustain it. That’s it.
 Quoting: Don Draper from Nantucket


nailedit2
Embrace the cognitive dissonance.
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Game over. Occam’s Razor: The simplest explanation is often the best one. Central banks will never extract themselves. Whether they ultimately end QE is besides the point. They won’t reduce their balance sheets. They can’t.

Powell’s “performance” yesterday was not an accident. He’s been running on the same theme of offering absolutely zero specifics. Why?

3 reasons:

1. There are none as there is no plan.

2. To maintain flexibility and not to be held accountable or anything

3. To not upset markets.

We saw this recently when he actually got challenged on MBS and QE. He couldn’t and wouldn’t offer a rationale as to what is actually economically accomplished by it:




Why? Because popping the largest asset bubble ever would result in a catastrophic reset, not only a recession, but a depression.

The reality is debt levels have so exploded in the past 13 years any pre GFC type interest rates (which were historically low back then) would collapse the entire system. They know it. I know it, you know it. The entire system is predicated on debt expansion and cheap money to sustain it. That’s it.


How do you unwind something like this without causing a giant equity and economic collapse? Occam’s Razor: You can’t. And hence no central bank is even pretending to speak about it. And no media organization is even bothering to ask them. Taper is a performance act to pretend to get back to some path of normal. News flash: There is no path to normal. The opportunity was there in 2017-2019 and they all failed to take advantage of it at the time and now the Fed has doubled its balance sheet again since last year. They couldn’t extract themselves from a $4.5 trillion balance sheet without blowing up markets. They sure as hell won’t be able to from an $8.2 trillion going on $9 trillion balance sheet. Game Over. Don’t play again.

What then does the future hold? Well, you heard it from Mohammed El-Erian: “the Fed will most likely continue to disconnect asset prices even more from fundamentals. Wealth inequality will worsen more. The Fed’s monthly purchases of $40B of MBS will continue to price people out of the housing market.”

How is this the Fed’s mandate? How will this accomplish anything other than fracture society even further to the core? How does propagating an ever larger asset bubble promote financial stability? Baffling. Investors won’t care about these questions at the moment as the gains keep coming. The questions will only get asked once the damage of the distortions will become self evident. By then it may be too late.
 Quoting: Don Draper from Nantucket


I think it's already way past too late...

I also think that the music is about to stop in this fucked up game of musical chairs on the titanic WAY SOONER than people think.

So here's the reason I think that.

If you look at what this article is saying combined with what we know black rock and others have been up to, it's extremely possible that the big money has already gotten itself to safe harbors hidden by all the fed money injections and etc.

If I'm correct, it essentially means that they can stop the music any time now and hit the rest of us with no real warning signs for even the savvy to bail out in time!

Remember all the articles about how the richest people collectively added trillions of dollars to their net worth over the course of covid and 2020?

Now understand that all those people can effectively afford to lose at least twice as much as 2020 added to their net worth without even denting their real wealth!

This is like playing cards at a rigged poker table, the people in on it could and probably do have agreements in place privately as to how the take will be split from the final turn of the cards in the final hand of the game.

I bring this up because there's people here who think that the market will forever go up because it would hurt the people on top too bad if they let the music stop.

That only applies if the game isn't rigged, and we know the game is rigged.

The other reason we can know it's not just going to be allowed to keep going up and getting more and more ludicrous is because they've fucking told us they intend to stop the music!

The great reset REQUIRES the music to stop at some point!

I have a very nasty feeling that some point is going to occur either tomorrow or Monday when it becomes clear that the eviction moratorium is not getting extended.

Call me a feelings tard all you want but you've all seen GLP for the last week!

People KNOW something big is up!

That's another part of why I think it may happen between Friday and end of trading on Monday.

For this to work they need to it to hit before people can sense it's coming!

They only get what they need to move into the next phases of their plans if they can engineer the mother of all blood baths...

Even my normie friends can see and feel it now, if they're going to do it it needs to be soon.

Believe me, I don't want to be right on this one...

It's incredibly disastrous timing for me personally.
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So what can people do to protect assets? They often write these doom articles but never provide suggestions for protecting assets.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67556485


Because if this is what we think it is...

You can't.

That's right, if they're actually right in their premise in this article (they are right.)

There is no protecting your assets

If they're right you need to be thinking about how the fuck you're going to SURVIVE what's coming and whether you actually want to live through it, not how you can protect your assets!

People incapable of flexibility in their thinking who are unable to understand that the game has changed will fare worst of all.
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:tittybump:
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that looks like my ass
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We need a pic as proof.

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Game over. Occam’s Razor: The simplest explanation is often the best one. Central banks will never extract themselves. Whether they ultimately end QE is besides the point. They won’t reduce their balance sheets. They can’t.

Powell’s “performance” yesterday was not an accident. He’s been running on the same theme of offering absolutely zero specifics. Why?

3 reasons:

1. There are none as there is no plan.

2. To maintain flexibility and not to be held accountable or anything

3. To not upset markets.

We saw this recently when he actually got challenged on MBS and QE. He couldn’t and wouldn’t offer a rationale as to what is actually economically accomplished by it:


 Quoting: Don Draper from Nantucket


bodysnatch

Well done OP.
Now at least we know.
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tittybump
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that looks like my ass
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We need a pic as proof.

clintyes
 Quoting: iSwear


NEGATIVE! Cancel pic request!
Situation nominal.
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As Max Keiser says "you can't taper a Ponzi scheme"
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The same max that pushes Bitcoin, the mother of all Ponzi schemes just about every episode? F him
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The fed is trapped.
 Quoting: red pilled


Oh yeah, "the Warden is gonna be in big trouble when I set my cell on fire."

Dumb ass.





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