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STOIC - Crypto AI

 
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STOIC - Crypto AI
If anyone is interested in letting your portfolio build itself whilst saving your own time, you may want to look at STOIC.

It's an AI trading bot, that builds and re-arranges your portfolio, you just start it (minimum starting amount $1000 usdt) and let it work for you. You pay a 5% management fee on your starting funds (yearly) and you can withdraw profits at any time, simply change the hedge setting to 100% and withdraw your desired amount in usdt.

I put in about $1500 just over a week ago, it has beat the BTC dip comfortably I'm quite happy with it so far.
Among the top coins in STOICS portfolio atm are:
GALA
ZEC
CRV
SAND
MANA

Check it out here: [link to stoic.ai (secure)]

I had a link for 10% off but some buthurt reported it.

Last Edited by Inevitability on 11/25/2021 10:56 AM
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Re: STOIC - Crypto AI
what did it grow your 1500 initial investment into over that time?
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so how much have you made or lost?
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what did it grow your 1500 initial investment into over that time?
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Not sure about them all but mana and gala popped in the last few days so of course they will look better against the stalwarts like BTC. I’d need to see a longer historical measure of the bots success.

Took some nice gains of MANA yesterday
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what did it grow your 1500 initial investment into over that time?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80406901


If you use the 'AI strategy, it changes your hedge amount more in favor of usdt, so your portfolio is more stable over crashes and dips.

If you set it to 0% hedge you can get crazy gains, but also crazy losses as with the markets.

I used there 'AI automatic strategy' over the last dip and came out beating BTC by 8%

Now I've got it set to 0% hedge and it is eating up gaming and metaverse coins and heading a green upwards trend.
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what did it grow your 1500 initial investment into over that time?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80406901


Not sure about them all but mana and gala popped in the last few days so of course they will look better against the stalwarts like BTC. I’d need to see a longer historical measure of the bots success.

Took some nice gains of MANA yesterday
 Quoting: Rick Deez Nuts


It rebalances and buys and sells as it sees fit.

Last year Nov 2020 - 2021 it had an 8000% profit year.

Read the site it's all there.
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so how much have you made or lost?
 Quoting: bidendystopia


Atm I'm around 9% up on my investment, considering BTC divebombed it has navigated the market pretty well.

It saves time, it constantly updates buys sells takes profits from the top 30 coins on binance, how many hours in a day would that take a person?
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Re: STOIC - Crypto AI
Numbers from there site:

If you had invested $5000 in since 1st JAN - Now

Stoic - $50,650
Crypto 20 - $38,150
Bitcoin - $22,050
Tesla - $15,100
S&P 500 - $6,950
Amazon - $5,500
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bump
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4-5% annual fee up front cuts 10% gains to 5%. 5% loss becomes 10%. Then you pay the fee for the next year. On the full balance? Right?
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Dont need AI bot to crush this market.

ENJ
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UNI
AVAX
Loopring
BAT
Algorand
NU

Buy..HODL..See you next year.
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4-5% annual fee up front cuts 10% gains to 5%. 5% loss becomes 10%. Then you pay the fee for the next year. On the full balance? Right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81083046


Good forbid it actually trades/swaps the cryptos because the taxes would be a killer. Idk, I think I'll just hold a bag and forgo the ai.
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4-5% annual fee up front cuts 10% gains to 5%. 5% loss becomes 10%. Then you pay the fee for the next year. On the full balance? Right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81083046


Don't know if I understand you.

You pay 5% on your initial fee. So if you want to trade with 2000, you need to have 2000usdt in binance and pay Stoic 100usdt separately (+ gas).

Then whatever is in stoic in 1 years time should you choose to continue, you pay 5% of that amount. Obviously the more money in the account the more fees you pay, but also the more gains it can make.

You can withdraw at anytime, as long as there is 1000usdt remaining it will continue trading.

Last Edited by Inevitability on 11/25/2021 12:24 PM
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Re: STOIC - Crypto AI
Dont need AI bot to crush this market.

ENJ
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AVAX
Loopring
BAT
Algorand
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Buy..HODL..See you next year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77994864


I got my bags separate, this is day trading for me with 0 effort. Just another lane of income.

Last Edited by Inevitability on 11/25/2021 12:24 PM
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4-5% annual fee up front cuts 10% gains to 5%. 5% loss becomes 10%. Then you pay the fee for the next year. On the full balance? Right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81083046


Good forbid it actually trades/swaps the cryptos because the taxes would be a killer. Idk, I think I'll just hold a bag and forgo the ai.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81083046


I don't know how this works in the USA, if you pay taxes on your crypto then you're stuck being a slave I guess.

Last Edited by Inevitability on 11/25/2021 12:28 PM
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4-5% annual fee up front cuts 10% gains to 5%. 5% loss becomes 10%. Then you pay the fee for the next year. On the full balance? Right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81083046


Don't know if I understand you.

You pay 5% on your initial fee. So if you want to trade with 2000, you need to have 2000usdt in binance and pay Stoic 100usdt separately (+ gas).

Then whatever is in stoic in 1 years time should you choose to continue, you pay 5% of that amount. Obviously the more money in the account the more fees you pay, but also the more gains it can make.

You can withdraw at anytime, as long as there is 1000usdt remaining it will continue trading.
 Quoting: Inevitability


It is interesting and I appreciate the suggestion. Seems there is a pretty big downside but I'll investigate and run some calculations.
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4-5% annual fee up front cuts 10% gains to 5%. 5% loss becomes 10%. Then you pay the fee for the next year. On the full balance? Right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81083046


Don't know if I understand you.

You pay 5% on your initial fee. So if you want to trade with 2000, you need to have 2000usdt in binance and pay Stoic 100usdt separately (+ gas).

Then whatever is in stoic in 1 years time should you choose to continue, you pay 5% of that amount. Obviously the more money in the account the more fees you pay, but also the more gains it can make.

You can withdraw at anytime, as long as there is 1000usdt remaining it will continue trading.
 Quoting: Inevitability


It is interesting and I appreciate the suggestion. Seems there is a pretty big downside but I'll investigate and run some calculations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81083046


I don't see any downside apart from the initial fee, which I've made back in less than a week.

The time saved allows me to look into other projects instead of constantly checking prices and trading. That is worth it to me alone.
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4-5% annual fee up front cuts 10% gains to 5%. 5% loss becomes 10%. Then you pay the fee for the next year. On the full balance? Right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81083046


Good forbid it actually trades/swaps the cryptos because the taxes would be a killer. Idk, I think I'll just hold a bag and forgo the ai.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81083046


I don't know how this works in the USA, if you pay taxes on your crypto then you're stuck being a slave I guess.
 Quoting: Inevitability


Yes, tax strategy is important in the US. The strategy of "don't pay taxes" is not a winning one. And yes, we are all slaves in that regard. Those who are not slaves are prisoners. Some of us just have more money and work less than others.

Same as it ever was.
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4-5% annual fee up front cuts 10% gains to 5%. 5% loss becomes 10%. Then you pay the fee for the next year. On the full balance? Right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81083046


Good forbid it actually trades/swaps the cryptos because the taxes would be a killer. Idk, I think I'll just hold a bag and forgo the ai.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81083046


I don't know how this works in the USA, if you pay taxes on your crypto then you're stuck being a slave I guess.
 Quoting: Inevitability


Yes, tax strategy is important in the US. The strategy of "don't pay taxes" is not a winning one. And yes, we are all slaves in that regard. Those who are not slaves are prisoners. Some of us just have more money and work less than others.

Same as it ever was.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81083046


Privacy coins, I'm neither a slave or a prisoner. I'm just a free human being, I don't pay extortion.
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Good forbid it actually trades/swaps the cryptos because the taxes would be a killer. Idk, I think I'll just hold a bag and forgo the ai.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81083046


I don't know how this works in the USA, if you pay taxes on your crypto then you're stuck being a slave I guess.
 Quoting: Inevitability


Yes, tax strategy is important in the US. The strategy of "don't pay taxes" is not a winning one. And yes, we are all slaves in that regard. Those who are not slaves are prisoners. Some of us just have more money and work less than others.

Same as it ever was.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81083046


Privacy coins, I'm neither a slave or a prisoner. I'm just a free human being, I don't pay extortion.
 Quoting: Inevitability


I agree in principle, but it's a very idealistic way to look at it. When talking about real money, it's not a practical approach imo. To succeed with that mentality over the long term requires hiding in the shadows, laundering gains... John McAfee type of fate. Not the hill I want to die on. To each their own though.
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I'll stick to mining.
Great that you guys are trading and buying though, or there wouldn't be much payout hf
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I don't know how this works in the USA, if you pay taxes on your crypto then you're stuck being a slave I guess.
 Quoting: Inevitability


Yes, tax strategy is important in the US. The strategy of "don't pay taxes" is not a winning one. And yes, we are all slaves in that regard. Those who are not slaves are prisoners. Some of us just have more money and work less than others.

Same as it ever was.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81083046


Privacy coins, I'm neither a slave or a prisoner. I'm just a free human being, I don't pay extortion.
 Quoting: Inevitability


I agree in principle, but it's a very idealistic way to look at it. When talking about real money, it's not a practical approach imo. To succeed with that mentality over the long term requires hiding in the shadows, laundering gains... John McAfee type of fate. Not the hill I want to die on. To each their own though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81083046


Do you pay taxes on gambling winnings, lottery or competition prizes and such?

I pay taxes from my job as do we all (apart from the super elite), which I don't agree with. That is theft in itself.

But to pay taxes on crypto is ridiculous. Do they see it as an asset? What if you lose money, do they give you tax relief for that? What a load of shit.

If you wanted to cash out $500000 to buy a house, yea, maybe pay housing taxes etc. But to charge you tax on 'theoretical' numbers is absurd.

I started making money online playing poker years ago, all winnings were tax free. I apply the same model to crypto, I'm gambling my money that I earned so they're my winnings.
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This thread is dumb. KuCoin has AI portfolio rebalance for FREE.
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This thread is dumb. KuCoin has AI portfolio rebalance for FREE.
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How's it perform vs Stoic? I might postulate you are dumb.

Last Edited by Inevitability on 11/25/2021 02:17 PM
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interesting stuff op.

does stoic hold your funds?
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interesting stuff op.

does stoic hold your funds?
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Your funds are on binance, you set up an API key and enable spot trading for stoic, but not withdrawals. Only you can withdraw funds.

If you want to carry on trading separate from your stoic portfolio, you can also open a sub account on binance and carry on your own trades through that, keeping the funds separate (otherwise stoic uses all funds available to trade with).
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