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A question for Pro Abortionists on "My Body, my choice" - What about the baby's body? What about the baby's human rights?

 
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A question for Pro Abortionists on "My Body, my choice" - What about the baby's body? What about the baby's human rights?
Everyone has a right to choose what to do or not do to their body right?

Well what about the baby's body?

Are you saying "That's not a baby" or "It's not alive" or even "It's not a human"?

But at 6 weeks, it has a beating heart. It is therefore a living being. A human being.

So does it not have a right to live? Someone else can decide if it lives or dies?

What gives someone else the right to decide that? No one has the right to decide life or death over any other human.

What makes it different when it concerns a baby? The most vulnerable humans who cannot defend themselves and have no voice.

Are you saying the baby is not a "human"? So no human rights in this case?
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it has no rights
her body her choice
who has the time to get a condom
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what about mandated experimental death shots....
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it has no rights
her body her choice
who has the time to get a condom
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They do consider it a human and they're aborting it out of some sick murder fetish. That's why you see them with signs bragging about how many abortions they've had. Nobody else brags about other medical procedures.
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They do consider it a human and they're aborting it out of some sick murder fetish. That's why you see them with signs bragging about how many abortions they've had. Nobody else brags about other medical procedures.
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So human rights for everyone from pedophiles to MS13 gang members to ISIS Jihadists - except for babies. No human rights for the most innocent, defenseless, vulnerable humans who have no voice.

No logic, no justice in the western world liberal "order"

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Re: A question for Pro Abortionists on "My Body, my choice" - What about the baby's body? What about the baby's human rights?
Everyone has a right to choose what to do or not do to their body right?

Well what about the baby's body?

Are you saying "That's not a baby" or "It's not alive" or even "It's not a human"?

But at 6 weeks, it has a beating heart. It is therefore a living being. A human being.

So does it not have a right to live? Someone else can decide if it lives or dies?

What gives someone else the right to decide that? No one has the right to decide life or death over any other human.

What makes it different when it concerns a baby? The most vulnerable humans who cannot defend themselves and have no voice.

Are you saying the baby is not a "human"? So no human rights in this case?
 Quoting: A Ghost From Another Time


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They are all killers, if they want they can cut their OWN hands off, but the moment they kill the baby they are killers, and they will be judge like that .




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Everyone has a right to choose what to do or not do to their body right?

Well what about the baby's body?

Are you saying "That's not a baby" or "It's not alive" or even "It's not a human"?

But at 6 weeks, it has a beating heart. It is therefore a living being. A human being.

So does it not have a right to live? Someone else can decide if it lives or dies?

What gives someone else the right to decide that? No one has the right to decide life or death over any other human.

What makes it different when it concerns a baby? The most vulnerable humans who cannot defend themselves and have no voice.

Are you saying the baby is not a "human"? So no human rights in this case?
 Quoting: A Ghost From Another Time


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They are all killers, if they want they can cut their OWN hands off, but the moment they kill the baby they are killers, and they will be judge like that .




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Some people tell themselves they did no wrong, it was not a living human, it was not a baby, etc.

Maybe they can lie to themselves and maybe society can convince them too.

But they cannot escape God's judgement.

You are correct.
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Even nature agrees sometimes abortion has a time and place. A miscarriage can happen at any stage. In an ideal world, such things would never happen but we are not in an ideal world. And why do we care about the unborn yet can barely give two sh!tz about the already born? Where were all the bleeding hearts for dead Iraqi children and Pregnant women? Or the countless other children, infants and pregnant women that have paid the price of our wars?
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They don't care about the baby. Its all about ME,ME,ME.
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Everyone has a right to choose what to do or not do to their body right?

Well what about the baby's body?

Are you saying "That's not a baby" or "It's not alive" or even "It's not a human"?

But at 6 weeks, it has a beating heart. It is therefore a living being. A human being.

So does it not have a right to live? Someone else can decide if it lives or dies?

What gives someone else the right to decide that? No one has the right to decide life or death over any other human.

What makes it different when it concerns a baby? The most vulnerable humans who cannot defend themselves and have no voice.

Are you saying the baby is not a "human"? So no human rights in this case?
 Quoting: A Ghost From Another Time


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They are all killers, if they want they can cut their OWN hands off, but the moment they kill the baby they are killers, and they will be judge like that .




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Your country kills all the time. They are even wanting to inject infants with the kill shot. Count women have miscarriage because they have been injecting pregnant women. Where is all the 'pro-lifers'? What about the countless infants and children that starve the death in the millions every year? Where are the 'pro-lifers' for all the unwanted children?
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If a foetus is a person, why doesn't it have a name already?

All founding Judaic texts says personhoof starts at birth, with the first breath. The breath is when the soul enters the body. So basically Jesus, the Bible, all say a foetus isn't a person.

That's the same in all countries worldwide whatever the culture.


Sorry evangelicals with your fake outrage, not even the bible supports your lies
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God expects us to use our procreation tools, to procreate. You are not meant to have sex just for the feel of it! That is of the devil.
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"The unborn are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn."

-Methodist Pastor David Barnhart

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Very few pro lifers actually want to do anything for either the born or unborn. They represent another form of virtue signalling. They aren't pro life anything in actuality. How many ever work at CASA as a child advocate? How many ever actually do anything but whine? Only a few.
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"The unborn are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn."

-Methodist Pastor David Barnhart

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This ^^^^
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The baby has it’s own unique DNA.

Certainly doesn’t match the mother.

Her body does not include the baby.
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Very few pro lifers actually want to do anything for either the born or unborn. They represent another form of virtue signalling. They aren't pro life anything in actuality. How many ever work at CASA as a child advocate? How many ever actually do anything but whine? Only a few.
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hesright

It's just something they can be outraged about, but in reality they don't care about life otherwise they would help their fellow humans, immigrants, poor people, addicts, like Jesus would.

Fake Christians all of them
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The baby has it’s own unique DNA.

Certainly doesn’t match the mother.

Her body does not include the baby.
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The baby has it’s own unique DNA.

Certainly doesn’t match the mother.

Her body does not include the baby.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82876934


A tapeworm has a unique DNA and yet I'm not forced to keep it inside my body.

Your argument is dumb
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Funny how evangelicals want to give more rights to a foetus than to an immigrant.

They seem to hate anyone who's breathing
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Even nature agrees sometimes abortion has a time and place. A miscarriage can happen at any stage. In an ideal world, such things would never happen but we are not in an ideal world. And why do we care about the unborn yet can barely give two sh!tz about the already born? Where were all the bleeding hearts for dead Iraqi children and Pregnant women? Or the countless other children, infants and pregnant women that have paid the price of our wars?
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A miscarriage is not the same as an abortion. Yes, it can and does happen at any stage but it is not the same.

I agree, we are far from being in an ideal world. We should care about our fellow humans if we're going to make this world a little more ideal. It doesn't matter if they are inside or outside the womb - it is a human life and we should care.

Yes, including the already born. I opposed the globalist policies that sanctioned and starved the Iraqi people including hundreds of thousands of children and innocent civilians in the 90's as well as the false pretenses that lead to the 2nd Gulf War. I am as antiwar as anyone - war is the worst thing humans can do to each other. It should only be a last resort and it must be justified and not based on lies.
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Even nature agrees sometimes abortion has a time and place. A miscarriage can happen at any stage. In an ideal world, such things would never happen but we are not in an ideal world. And why do we care about the unborn yet can barely give two sh!tz about the already born? Where were all the bleeding hearts for dead Iraqi children and Pregnant women? Or the countless other children, infants and pregnant women that have paid the price of our wars?
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A miscarriage is not the same as an abortion. Yes, it can and does happen at any stage but it is not the same.

I agree, we are far from being in an ideal world. We should care about our fellow humans if we're going to make this world a little more ideal. It doesn't matter if they are inside or outside the womb - it is a human life and we should care.

Yes, including the already born. I opposed the globalist policies that sanctioned and starved the Iraqi people including hundreds of thousands of children and innocent civilians in the 90's as well as the false pretenses that lead to the 2nd Gulf War. I am as antiwar as anyone - war is the worst thing humans can do to each other. It should only be a last resort and it must be justified and not based on lies.
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No culture in history had ever considered a foetus a person. Judaic texts (on which the Bible is built) say a person starts life at birth.

You are entitled to your opinion, but it's just your opinion, unsupported by thousands of years of history. Not even the bible supports the evangelical claims. It's all a political stunt
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Those little pollywogs aren't human yet. 6-9 months in the oven is required
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The baby has it’s own unique DNA.

Certainly doesn’t match the mother.

Her body does not include the baby.
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The baby has it’s own unique DNA.

Certainly doesn’t match the mother.

Her body does not include the baby.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82876934


A tapeworm has a unique DNA and yet I'm not forced to keep it inside my body.

Your argument is dumb
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Oh that’s cold...brrr
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You have to pronounce it like vayvee like they do on the commercial, then pronounce hard B's on 'abortion' and 'beating heart'. What r u DOING?!
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Even nature agrees sometimes abortion has a time and place. A miscarriage can happen at any stage. In an ideal world, such things would never happen but we are not in an ideal world. And why do we care about the unborn yet can barely give two sh!tz about the already born? Where were all the bleeding hearts for dead Iraqi children and Pregnant women? Or the countless other children, infants and pregnant women that have paid the price of our wars?
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A miscarriage is not the same as an abortion. Yes, it can and does happen at any stage but it is not the same.

I agree, we are far from being in an ideal world. We should care about our fellow humans if we're going to make this world a little more ideal. It doesn't matter if they are inside or outside the womb - it is a human life and we should care.

Yes, including the already born. I opposed the globalist policies that sanctioned and starved the Iraqi people including hundreds of thousands of children and innocent civilians in the 90's as well as the false pretenses that lead to the 2nd Gulf War. I am as antiwar as anyone - war is the worst thing humans can do to each other. It should only be a last resort and it must be justified and not based on lies.
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No culture in history had ever considered a foetus a person. Judaic texts (on which the Bible is built) say a person starts life at birth.

You are entitled to your opinion, but it's just your opinion, unsupported by thousands of years of history. Not even the bible supports the evangelical claims. It's all a political stunt
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A baby with a beating heart is a human being. It has rights. It doesn't matter if the entire world says it isn't or that it doesn't have rights. The entire world would be wrong. Luckily, the entire world doesn't think this way.

Babies born prematurely even as early as 21 weeks have survived. So I guess they are a 'foetus' and not a living human according to you?

I am not an evangelical Christian. I am not a republican neo-con fake Christian either.

God says "I knew you before you were born"

God gives us everlasting life. Nowhere is it ruled out that this life doesn't begin before you leave the womb.

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They don't care about the baby. Its all about ME,ME,ME.
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When you have a child, you give up the right to put yourself first. Unfortunately, it is true that far too many people are selfish and think only of themselves. So many will try to maintain a lifestyle that they like and put that above their family or children that are the things they should focus on in their life.
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If a foetus is a person, why doesn't it have a name already?

All founding Judaic texts says personhoof starts at birth, with the first breath. The breath is when the soul enters the body. So basically Jesus, the Bible, all say a foetus isn't a person.

That's the same in all countries worldwide whatever the culture.


Sorry evangelicals with your fake outrage, not even the bible supports your lies
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Being human does not hinge upon having been named or not. You're still a human whether or not you've been given a name. Some people do actually name their babies before they're born.

Where does it say in the Bible or Torah or Talmud that a child in the womb is not a human? Really? Please cite your source for this?

Not all who oppose abortion are evangelicals. The killing of human life should outrage you especially when the victims are defenseless and have no voice. If there is any fake outrage it comes from hypocrites who demanded everyone be forced to get experimental mRNA gene therapies but now are chanting "my body, my choice".

Well, what about the baby's body? What about the baby's choice?

So if your opinion is that abortion is wrong, you're saying its fake outrage/lies. So its not even an opinion anymore in your view. We're just liars if we oppose killing the most vunlerable humans?

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Everyone has a right to choose what to do or not do to their body right?

Well what about the baby's body?

Are you saying "That's not a baby" or "It's not alive" or even "It's not a human"?

But at 6 weeks, it has a beating heart. It is therefore a living being. A human being.

So does it not have a right to live? Someone else can decide if it lives or dies?

What gives someone else the right to decide that? No one has the right to decide life or death over any other human.

What makes it different when it concerns a baby? The most vulnerable humans who cannot defend themselves and have no voice.

Are you saying the baby is not a "human"? So no human rights in this case?
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They are all killers, if they want they can cut their OWN hands off, but the moment they kill the baby they are killers, and they will be judge like that .




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Your country kills all the time. They are even wanting to inject infants with the kill shot. Count women have miscarriage because they have been injecting pregnant women. Where is all the 'pro-lifers'? What about the countless infants and children that starve the death in the millions every year? Where are the 'pro-lifers' for all the unwanted children?
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You're making a blanket statement trying to paint all pro lifers like they are the same.

We aren't. Many of us oppose all of the things you talked about and do care about orphans.
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That is why my body my choice doesnt apply to abortion. I dont know why the pro killers say it. It shows how stupid and selfish they are
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The baby has it’s own unique DNA.

Certainly doesn’t match the mother.

Her body does not include the baby.
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The baby has it’s own unique DNA.

Certainly doesn’t match the mother.

Her body does not include the baby.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82876934


A tapeworm has a unique DNA and yet I'm not forced to keep it inside my body.

Your argument is dumb
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you just compared a tapeworm to a human?





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