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Statement from Kiwi Farms owner after DDOS Guard abruptly terminates service after less than 24 hours
In my life, there is a family emergency. It has absolutely nothing to do with the forum drama. I cannot and will not elaborate further. There will be a week or more where I am completely unavailable and it is likely the site will go down during this time where I will not be able to bring it up.

I want to appraise our situation frankly.

Domain Registrar
Cloudflare was both our application-level DDoS mitigation and our domain registrar. They have given me a way to transfer my domains to another registrar. I do not know what registrar to send it to because I do not have faith in any company.

DDoS Mitigation
DDoS-Guard will drop us dropped us while I was writing this post. This meme about Russia being a free country is a joke. The US is a free country, but with no stewards to protect it. Without the US, there is no second best. I did not expect Cloudflare to crumple so quickly and I don't have a Plan C for DDoS mitigation.

Resource Allocation
I own IP addresses. Our IP allocation is from APNIC. APNIC is one of the 5 private companies which allocate Internet resources around the world. APNIC happens to be based out of Australia, which recently passed draconian censorship laws. There is an effort to get our RIR to revoke our allocation. This would be unprecedented in the history of the Internet, and considering China is in APNIC's region, an absolutely horrific standard which will echo throughout the upcoming decades. There is a non-zero chance of this happening.

Hosting
We have one host and I am looking at two more. It is likely that the host will give up too. The two hosts confident they can handle the Kiwi Farms are probably wrong. DDoS-Guard was confident they could handle the Kiwi Farms and said "bring it on" for less than 24 hours.


This is an organized attack. There is a coalition of criminals trying to frame the forum for their behavior. These criminals provide opportunities for professional victims to amplify their message. Journalists canonize the crimes as the behavior of the forum itself, which becomes the effective truth for the general public.

This is a machine that was built up formerly against 8chan and activates any time the cathedral wants to test the new fronts of its censorship. It is a massive amalgamation of various interests. I am one person. The financial limitations aren't even the real problem - the problem is, I am powerless alone. There is no amount of money I can throw to convince people to be brave and be free. This is just the reality of our country.

And what this machine will not accept is compromise. If I censored specific kinds of behavior, it would not matter. They don't want a specific thing censored. They want the average person to be able to speak in channels where only specific thoughts are acceptable.

More importantly, they want to make it so that no small organization can host a service which threatens the cathedral. It used to be that one guy with a good idea could open a platform and be a Tom Anderson, Mark Zuckerberg, Tom Fulp, Christopher Poole, or Richard Kyanka. Take note these names are all from 10+ years ago. There are no new groundbreakers online anymore because breaking ground in the new Internet's corporate parking lot is not allowed.


I do not see a situation where the Kiwi Farms is simply allowed to operate. It will either become a fractured shell of itself, like 8chan, or jump between hosts and domain names like Daily Stormer.
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09/05/2022 02:12 PM

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Re: Statement from Kiwi Farms owner after DDOS Guard abruptly terminates service after less than 24 hours
What's a Kiwi Farm and how is it relevant?
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09/05/2022 02:16 PM
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Gangstalkers not welcome
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Re: Statement from Kiwi Farms owner after DDOS Guard abruptly terminates service after less than 24 hours
Can't get on kiwifarms .com... You gonna get it up and running or not.
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09/05/2022 02:21 PM
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well said, Americans unfortunately do not understand compliance to this government will never bring you freedom and the fear of loss, americans fear to serve time in jail, americans fear of court, are all because they lack the understanding of the basics of common law and rights is the death of america and you cannot explain these things they are learned by study research and application and only 1 percent get it or have the balls and fortitude to deal with the government they are very experienced in screwing you by any means possible, if you dont call them on it, the monster grows.
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09/05/2022 02:24 PM
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What's a Kiwi Farm and how is it relevant?
 Quoting: Keilani


Kiwi Farms, A Notorious Hate Site, Has Been Taken Down By Cloudflare

[link to www.buzzfeednews.com (secure)]

Last Edited by Gelatinous Mass on 09/05/2022 02:33 PM
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09/05/2022 02:29 PM
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well said, Americans unfortunately do not understand compliance to this government will never bring you freedom and the fear of loss, americans fear to serve time in jail, americans fear of court, are all because they lack the understanding of the basics of common law and rights is the death of america and you cannot explain these things they are learned by study research and application and only 1 percent get it or have the balls and fortitude to deal with the government they are very experienced in screwing you by any means possible, if you dont call them on it, the monster grows.
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Your atrocious writing style perfectly exemplifies a feature of the problem you describe.
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09/05/2022 02:43 PM
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Re: Statement from Kiwi Farms owner after DDOS Guard abruptly terminates service after less than 24 hours
What's a Kiwi Farm and how is it relevant?
 Quoting: Keilani


Kiwi Farms, A Notorious Hate Site, Has Been Taken Down By Cloudflare

[link to www.buzzfeednews.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Gelatinous Mass


edit noted and previously archived:

matthew prince is just feeble

more worrisome is the fact that the six gender dreydl cult commanded state mandated homosexuality police threatened to shutter ddos guard's scotland manifestation if they didn't dump kf
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09/05/2022 02:45 PM
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What's a Kiwi Farm and how is it relevant?
 Quoting: Keilani


Kiwi Farms, A Notorious Hate Site, Has Been Taken Down By Cloudflare

[link to www.buzzfeednews.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Gelatinous Mass


"Notorious hate site"...lol

Grow up, tard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84132053


gut check test came and he failed

now the site gets hoisted by its own petard
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09/05/2022 02:45 PM
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Re: Statement from Kiwi Farms owner after DDOS Guard abruptly terminates service after less than 24 hours
Well, a member on that site was allegedly behind the swatting of a member of congress - twice!

Seriously, what the hell did they expect?

[link to www.businessinsider.com (secure)]

It could be a setup, but they're known for stalking and swatting.

If it is a setup, mods better batten the hatches on this site. A storm is brewing.
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Re: Statement from Kiwi Farms owner after DDOS Guard abruptly terminates service after less than 24 hours
Well, a member on that site was allegedly behind the swatting of a member of congress - twice!

Seriously, what the hell did they expect?

[link to www.businessinsider.com (secure)]

It could be a setup, but they're known for stalking and swatting.

If it is a setup, mods better batten the hatches on this site. A storm is brewing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83845778


^^^ ynbaw lying troonatic
Gelatinous Mass

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09/05/2022 03:25 PM
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Re: Statement from Kiwi Farms owner after DDOS Guard abruptly terminates service after less than 24 hours
Well, a member on that site was allegedly behind the swatting of a member of congress - twice!

Seriously, what the hell did they expect?

[link to www.businessinsider.com (secure)]

It could be a setup, but they're known for stalking and swatting.

If it is a setup, mods better batten the hatches on this site. A storm is brewing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83845778


Wow.

Shit is really getting out of hand.

I see this as a direct result of the "everyone gets a trophy" trend from about 10 years ago.
No red pens grading kids papers, no one giving a critical eye to your work, etc..

Now, when people lose in adult life, be it an undesirable SCOTUS decision, or an elected
official you don't like, people become deranged.
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Re: Statement from Kiwi Farms owner after DDOS Guard abruptly terminates service after less than 24 hours
The person who got them taken down is a groomer / pedophile who bragged about teaching 13 year old boys how to take it in the ass. Apparently sold bathtub HRT. It's chemically castrated dozens (or hundreds, or even over 1000) of minors. It should be in jail, not leading Struggle Session cancel campaigns.
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I'm starting to think they released information about Dan Schneider, FINALLY, to get people focused on that (a well-known evil at this point) to cover up this giant pedo / grooming ring of troons. They use "Transphobia" as an excuse to avoid any accountability.

This Keffals thing should be in jail.
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The person who got them taken down is a groomer / pedophile who bragged about teaching 13 year old boys how to take it in the ass. Apparently sold bathtub HRT. It's chemically castrated dozens (or hundreds, or even over 1000) of minors. It should be in jail, not leading Struggle Session cancel campaigns.
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Link?
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What's a Kiwi Farm and how is it relevant?
 Quoting: Keilani



[link to godlike.com (secure)]
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Re: Statement from Kiwi Farms owner after DDOS Guard abruptly terminates service after less than 24 hours
The person who got them taken down is a groomer / pedophile who bragged about teaching 13 year old boys how to take it in the ass. Apparently sold bathtub HRT. It's chemically castrated dozens (or hundreds, or even over 1000) of minors. It should be in jail, not leading Struggle Session cancel campaigns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79859369


Link?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84138105


Keffals. Real piece of shit that one. And it will Photoshop fake DM's to get a mob going against people for things they never said. I say this as someone who was doxxed and libeled on kiwi, I have no love for those losers either.
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Re: Statement from Kiwi Farms owner after DDOS Guard abruptly terminates service after less than 24 hours
The person who got them taken down is a groomer / pedophile who bragged about teaching 13 year old boys how to take it in the ass. Apparently sold bathtub HRT. It's chemically castrated dozens (or hundreds, or even over 1000) of minors. It should be in jail, not leading Struggle Session cancel campaigns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79859369


Link?
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Sorry, no can do. Any attempt to paste or describe a link gets deleted and banned2

URLs are hate speech.
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The person who got them taken down is a groomer / pedophile who bragged about teaching 13 year old boys how to take it in the ass. Apparently sold bathtub HRT. It's chemically castrated dozens (or hundreds, or even over 1000) of minors. It should be in jail, not leading Struggle Session cancel campaigns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79859369


Link?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84138105


Keffals. Real piece of shit that one. And it will Photoshop fake DM's to get a mob going against people for things they never said. I say this as someone who was doxxed and libeled on kiwi, I have no love for those losers either.
 Quoting: Astromut



It's more than just keffals...

And with as often as glp threads are hitting alt media news sites we're not going to be very far behind them.

Also lol... I wrote a very stirring speech involving how blank spaces in history like the dark ages and bronze age collapse have happened when much less pervasive global and incomplete versions of this happened in the past...

But apparently I used words I shouldn't have or something because it got ate.

Last Edited by roguetechie81 on 09/06/2022 10:48 AM
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Re: Statement from Kiwi Farms owner after DDOS Guard abruptly terminates service after less than 24 hours
In my life, there is a family emergency. It has absolutely nothing to do with the forum drama. I cannot and will not elaborate further. There will be a week or more where I am completely unavailable and it is likely the site will go down during this time where I will not be able to bring it up.

I want to appraise our situation frankly.

Domain Registrar
Cloudflare was both our application-level DDoS mitigation and our domain registrar. They have given me a way to transfer my domains to another registrar. I do not know what registrar to send it to because I do not have faith in any company.

DDoS Mitigation
DDoS-Guard will drop us dropped us while I was writing this post. This meme about Russia being a free country is a joke. The US is a free country, but with no stewards to protect it. Without the US, there is no second best. I did not expect Cloudflare to crumple so quickly and I don't have a Plan C for DDoS mitigation.

Resource Allocation
I own IP addresses. Our IP allocation is from APNIC. APNIC is one of the 5 private companies which allocate Internet resources around the world. APNIC happens to be based out of Australia, which recently passed draconian censorship laws. There is an effort to get our RIR to revoke our allocation. This would be unprecedented in the history of the Internet, and considering China is in APNIC's region, an absolutely horrific standard which will echo throughout the upcoming decades. There is a non-zero chance of this happening.

Hosting
We have one host and I am looking at two more. It is likely that the host will give up too. The two hosts confident they can handle the Kiwi Farms are probably wrong. DDoS-Guard was confident they could handle the Kiwi Farms and said "bring it on" for less than 24 hours.


This is an organized attack. There is a coalition of criminals trying to frame the forum for their behavior. These criminals provide opportunities for professional victims to amplify their message. Journalists canonize the crimes as the behavior of the forum itself, which becomes the effective truth for the general public.

This is a machine that was built up formerly against 8chan and activates any time the cathedral wants to test the new fronts of its censorship. It is a massive amalgamation of various interests. I am one person. The financial limitations aren't even the real problem - the problem is, I am powerless alone. There is no amount of money I can throw to convince people to be brave and be free. This is just the reality of our country.

And what this machine will not accept is compromise. If I censored specific kinds of behavior, it would not matter. They don't want a specific thing censored. They want the average person to be able to speak in channels where only specific thoughts are acceptable.

More importantly, they want to make it so that no small organization can host a service which threatens the cathedral. It used to be that one guy with a good idea could open a platform and be a Tom Anderson, Mark Zuckerberg, Tom Fulp, Christopher Poole, or Richard Kyanka. Take note these names are all from 10+ years ago. There are no new groundbreakers online anymore because breaking ground in the new Internet's corporate parking lot is not allowed.


I do not see a situation where the Kiwi Farms is simply allowed to operate. It will either become a fractured shell of itself, like 8chan, or jump between hosts and domain names like Daily Stormer.
 Quoting: The Ghost of Oak Redhammer


lolcow mfer
you done
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cloudflare enables centrallized spying on internet users.
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cloudflare enables centrallized spying on internet users.
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And is more than half of the ddos threat I'm convinced....

It's sorta like how the online review companies shake down small businesses and outright tell them they'll make sure they're reviews and scores are low unless they buy a subscription...

Business practices that were considered illegal and the province of organized crime are now the norm not the exception.
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^^ [link to youtube.com (secure)]
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What's a Kiwi Farm and how is it relevant?
 Quoting: Keilani


Ignorance does not become you.
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What's a Kiwi Farm and how is it relevant?
 Quoting: Keilani


Kiwi Farms, A Notorious Hate Site, Has Been Taken Down By Cloudflare

[link to www.buzzfeednews.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Gelatinous Mass


Buzz is china and china is lower than a mealworm or maybe Gates.
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Re: Statement from Kiwi Farms owner after DDOS Guard abruptly terminates service after less than 24 hours
Here is [link to news.ycombinator.com (secure)] to get some back and forth on Kiwi - pro and con. Its almost literate and no much humor but still kicking it.





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