As seen/felt through an OBE, info about the original creation, human and planet

Around 2006 I experienced a spontaneous OBE into an originally created human body, on the originally created planet. A nice AC asked me if I'd tell them about it, and I started this thread because it's info way off the mark of the subject matter of that thread--

Thread: We should not be here from a quantum or even classical physics perspective


Harhar, obviously the OP of that thread didn't want to talk about my Big Bang and who-done-it hypothesis....

I rarely bring it up, because it goes so against the grain of about what everyone's thinking....and likely so is this thread. I know there's some who are going to mock and ridicule me, it happens often.

I simply will report or remove those posts myself, eh? You've been warned. Please do not quote them or mess with them, I'll take care of their little red wagon of mercilessness myself, please.

So, to the OBE, and what I gleaned from it. It was indeed a very brief OBE, but I was able to extrapolate quite a bit of info.


I was very tall. I would say between 10-12 feet tall.

The body was not dense and solid like the bodies we have now, yet if felt so very sturdy. I could see it was a holographic body, the whole creation was created holographically....this much I am sure of, not only because of the experience, but because I was told by my expanded self some time after that it is truth....as well, because there's also now so much info about this whole universe being holographic. It's not a stretch of my imagination, eh?

I did however look more human, than not....lol, I didn't have horns growing out of the top of my feet, and my nose wasn't at my belly button, dripping purple snot....

We were still somewhat looking like how we appear now, although admittedly with some vast differences.

And the invincibility I felt in that body?....lawdy, there are no words to describe that feeling.

What I can however say is that I believe I felt that sensation because we were created perfectly....and there was no evil there, so it's not like this feeling of invincibility was ground in protective matters, you see. I do absolutely believe it's an outcome of being created perfect in form. This was one of two things I learned during the experience that just rocked my world, heh. I do wish I could describe the sense of invincibility, but there are simply no words....but I know every single one of you would love it. It was astounding.

The other was that I was finally able to understand what "All is One" means, and it does harken back to the creation being purely holographic.

I had come into this body, it took me a moment to acclimate myself....heh, no joke, I almost went off my feet when I landed in it, but then I took in the landscape, it was not unlike our landscape here. I was in a lush valley, there were trees and mountains and a river I could see.

I then quite spontaneously reached down and picked up a handful of the beautiful soil....this is the most beautiful and rich soil I have ever seen, btw. Heh, it was glorious soil.

With the soil in my hand, I realized there was no difference between the two....I was momentarily stunned. No feeling of the moisture of the soil, no feeling of the soil against my palm....there was no difference between the two! Completely holographic creation, you see.

In that moment, I did realize what "All is One" meant. That notion used to bug the pee wellin' hell outta me - heh, it's not evident here and now - and in one moment of timelessness I completely understood its meaning! I think it's because we were created from ONE source, with one particular form of energy....and again, holographic.

I had no evil in me....no hatred, no rage, no self doubt, zero feelings of being a victim....all those base emotions we deal with now did not exist in that body. I was happy and CONTENT, with everything I ever needed or wanted....we just didn't know of need or want like we do here and now.

Simply put, we were created in perfect form. We had the awareness of the consciousness of twelve strands of DNA. Now we only have the awareness of two....and quite frankly, we're pathetic compared to how we were created. Awareness of one less strand of DNA, and we'd be useless, in a corner drooling type of useless.

We are but ghosts of our originally created form....and it creates such sadness within me at times. Although I wouldn't take back the OBE for nothing, it has indeed proposed some difficult times for me....we were so perfect, and we basically just threw all that GRACE away. This was due to our vast senses of curiosity and our pure innocence....we just didn't know any better.

Given it was our innocence that led us to this state of being we're in now, it's the one thing I hope we never regain, or at least we remember what we did, and the horrendous outcome.

We should never forget what we've been going through for millennia on end, so we never make the same mistake again.

Around 2006 I experienced a spontaneous OBE into an originally created human body, on the originally created planet. A nice AC asked me if I'd tell them about it, and I started this thread because it's info way off the mark of the subject matter of that thread--

Thread: We should not be here from a quantum or even classical physics perspective


Harhar, obviously the OP of that thread didn't want to talk about my Big Bang and who-done-it hypothesis....:billlaugh:

I rarely bring it up, because it goes so against the grain of about what everyone's thinking....and likely so is this thread. I know there's some who are going to mock and ridicule me, it happens often.

I simply will report or remove those posts myself, eh? You've been warned. Please do not quote them or mess with them, I'll take care of their little red wagon of mercilessness myself, please.

So, to the OBE, and what I gleaned from it. It was indeed a very brief OBE, but I was able to extrapolate quite a bit of info.


I was very tall. I would say between 10-12 feet tall.

The body was not dense and solid like the bodies we have now, yet if felt so very sturdy. I could see it was a holographic body, the whole creation was created holographically....this much I am sure of, not only because of the experience, but because I was told by my expanded self some time after that it is truth....as well, because there's also now so much info about this whole universe being holographic. It's not a stretch of my imagination, eh?

I did however look more human, than not....lol, I didn't have horns growing out of the top of my feet, and my nose wasn't at my belly button, dripping purple snot....

We were still somewhat looking like how we appear now, although admittedly with some vast differences.

And the invincibility I felt in that body?....lawdy, there are no words to describe that feeling.

What I can however say is that I believe I felt that sensation because we were created perfectly....and there was no evil there, so it's not like this feeling of invincibility was ground in protective matters, you see. I do absolutely believe it's an outcome of being created perfect in form. This was one of two things I learned during the experience that just rocked my world, heh. I do wish I could describe the sense of invincibility, but there are simply no words....but I know every single one of you would love it. It was astounding.

The other was that I was finally able to understand what "All is One" means, and it does harken back to the creation being purely holographic.

I had come into this body, it took me a moment to acclimate myself....heh, no joke, I almost went off my feet when I landed in it, but then I took in the landscape, it was not unlike our landscape here. I was in a lush valley, there were trees and mountains and a river I could see.

I then quite spontaneously reached down and picked up a handful of the beautiful soil....this is the most beautiful and rich soil I have ever seen, btw. Heh, it was glorious soil.

With the soil in my hand, I realized there was no difference between the two....I was momentarily stunned. No feeling of the moisture of the soil, no feeling of the soil against my palm....there was no difference between the two! Completely holographic creation, you see.

In that moment, I did realize what "All is One" meant. That notion used to bug the pee wellin' hell outta me - heh, it's not evident here and now - and in one moment of timelessness I completely understood its meaning! I think it's because we were created from ONE source, with one particular form of energy....and again, holographic.

I had no evil in me....no hatred, no rage, no self doubt, zero feelings of being a victim....all those base emotions we deal with now did not exist in that body. I was happy and CONTENT, with everything I ever needed or wanted....we just didn't know of need or want like we do here and now.

Simply put, we were created in perfect form. We had the awareness of the consciousness of twelve strands of DNA. Now we only have the awareness of two....and quite frankly, we're pathetic compared to how we were created. Awareness of one less strand of DNA, and we'd be useless, in a corner drooling type of useless.

We are but ghosts of our originally created form....and it creates such sadness within me at times. Although I wouldn't take back the OBE for nothing, it has indeed proposed some difficult times for me....we were so perfect, and we basically just threw all that GRACE away. This was due to our vast senses of curiosity and our pure innocence....we just didn't know any better.

Given it was our innocence that led us to this state of being we're in now, it's the one thing I hope we never regain, or at least we remember what we did, and the horrendous outcome.

We should never forget what we've been going through for millennia on end, so we never make the same mistake again.

That's fine and all but what about Jesus christ?

In other words he made all of the universe. So where did he fit into this did you even see him or hear him? Not trying to be a smart-alek like I have been with him myself I'm just trying to see where he fit into this.

I saw no other being while there. Like I said, it was a very quick OBE....like it seemed it was a matter of a minute, or pushing two.

All I know is that we were created by "God"....or our creator. There's so many gods, I can't even with it, but our CREATOR.

And listen, while I'm all about Christ, I don't hold the same type of view about Jesus the man, as do some Christians.

I do not say this to insult you, but rather to inform you....and I'm not going to debate about it on this thread, or any other. I don't even want to discuss my view on Jesus, because it's actually immaterial to this thread.

You have to remember that this creation was made eons ago, eh?

When was Jesus on the planet?....just over 2,000 years ago, right?

Do you see my point?

I do not see your point because man - created in His image - was created some 6,000 years ago - there may have been other humanoid creatures prior to that but NOT man created By Him in His image

that's pretty cool, do you know what made you have the OBE?

the idea that we used to have bigger and more perfect bodies is in accordance with pretty much all the scriptures, as far I know.

I'm not really sure....but I think it might be because I struggled with "All is One" so much. It really, really gnawed at me, and for years.

I'm a Wanderer, but I still needed to be shown what it is....heh, I should've already had that understanding down by that time, methinks. What better way than through an experience like an OBE wherein I'm in that body and on that planet though, huh?

It was one of two of most most profound OBEs I've ever had.

I also have struggled with the whole "All is One" concept, because quite honestly, there are beings that I don't really wanna be "One" with, know what I mean? Lol

But then again, I do have this feeling that every single one of us will "get it" eventually and get our acts together, whether in this world or the next

I'm the AC who asked, thank you so much for posting this! I'm just now getting to sit down and read. This is awesome! I want one of those bodies. :)

And I sure do feel the same, that we must remember so that we don't do whatever caused us to be experiencing this flawed realm in the first place....!

It's also interesting about what you said about the body being quite tall. My grandmother passed away 2 years ago, and in one of the first dreams I had about her, she looked the same but, well, she was VERY tall! I never quite knew what to make of that, thought it was just my brain being weird (that's still possible, Lol, but it's interesting to note that your OBE body was very tall).

Do you think that we chose to be here? I'm not sure. I've been reading about how maybe we chose this experience to "grow" or "advance" spiritually because in a perfect realm - which we seem to have originated from - our spirits did not have to experience hardships or friction or adversity and therefore couldn't grow such things as patience, virtue, compassion. I dunno. I guess one day we'll find out....

I have always enjoyed your posts, don't ever think that you are not appreciated because you truly are.

Love,
AC Friend :)

(I don't know if you remember me but you helped me with some of your posts when I lost my boyfriend last November, and you 'saw' him doing woodworking, and happy that he was finally able to be active, since in his physical body here he had such hardships and struggle and couldn't do much physically. This matched with what I thought he might enjoy doing. I like to think that he is building a 'house' for us on the other side there.)

Although I know there are some people who don't believe this - they can really get upset by this - there are Organic Portals on the planet. They have no soul, and no conscience. Last time I checked, there were about 70% Organic Portals....they do not walk in the light of our creator, eh?

My expanded self just told me it's still at about 70%, so okay.

Heh, this should be good enough info to have anyone to have a light bulb moment of understanding why we're seeing such the violence and departure from decency everywhere.

I know when I found out about them, so much fell into place....I then understood how people can be so usery of others, how they can destroy forests to make building complexes and parking lots, just so they can make $$$....heh, how they can f'n rip indigenous people's from their ancestor's land, and only for profit....why we have corrupted politicians and corporate leaders, and the people who push them into those positions of being utter assholes.

I DID NOT like any of it, but I understood why some are like they are....they having NO inner moral compass like those of us with souls have. Of course, we can ignore that compass, but that's a personal choice made. The soulless ones have no choice. They were bred to undermine those of us with souls as the work force of the negatively polarized ones. They live only once, they die, the do not experience the second death, and they go back into the primordial ooze, as though they never existed.


I think more and more of us are coming into our own knowing while alive, but after passing, all will indeed become clear. The soul trap has been disabled. We're making a beeline for the border between "here" and "there" after we pass, where we're met by loved ones, or very helpful souls/aides. Many of us are indeed going to need special care once arriving there....because look at where we came from, the Land of Confusion.

Thank you for posting, lovey....

This makes more sense than anything I've read lately, so thank you for taking the time to reply. I admit I have hated the idea of Organic Portals because I've been afraid that what if someone I loved was one? That would break my heart! :(

Could I make someone become "real", like the Velveteen Rabbit, if I loved them enough?

I have tried to show love to the people in my life, this realm is a very hard one. I haven't done as well as I'd hoped, what with all my shortcomings stuck in this physical body.

Wow, 70% - that would definitely explain why this whole world is going crazy, entropy out of control, spiraling into a black hole of chaos.

I will be happy to get to the other side! I've had a few dreams about my boyfriend since he passed, in the first one I was organizing his pills, and then I realized he didn't need them anymore, and I said "Joe, you don't need your pills anymore!" And I was delighted. And his belly was no longer swollen, and he didn't have his dialysis catheter in anymore, and he looked younger than he had been when I met him in this life. Joe was not one to really share a lot of what he was feeling inside. At one point, years ago, I HAD been worried that he was an O.P. because I just couldn't get a sense of "who" he was. But his family told me that he was always very private. So, I don't worry about that anymore. He showed me love in the best ways that he could. Sorry, I'm rambling - send me the therapy bill in the mail! :)

(posting from work computer - not my tablet - so ID is different but I'm the same AC)

Again, what you says confirms my suspicions. It wouldn't make any sense for us to come here to experience troubles if we could just create a "growth scenario" for ourselves in our original realm! Why on EARTH would we subject ourselves to such horrors that are here? I mean, the level of pain, sadness, hurt, evil is exponentially more than I think would actually be required to learn lessons. If anything, there is a danger of "breaking" our spirits instead of learning.

I guess, that's why I always try to show love to people, the best way I can, because this existence has enough crap in it without me adding more crap to it.

On another topic, I find myself lately waking up with pleasant feelings of electricity going up and down my body, and seeing swirling lights (with my eyes closed). And sometimes feel myself floating out of my body when this happens. Any idea what that might be? I used to get sleep paralysis but that doesn't happen so much anymore, when it does, I just "walk outside myself" and don't get very far, it's like walking through molasses, very sloooooow. I'm not afraid to die anymore, but just don't know if I'm done here yet. 2 of the people I loved the most are gone, but 2 are still here. I guess, when they're gone, I'll be ready to go.

Again, sorry for the rambling. I just feel that you are a kindred spirit and that makes it easy to 'talk' to you.

Much love to you,
AC Friend :)