The Weighing of the Heart

Whereas the soul has been measured to be about 2 oz.

I don't know what they did back then to weigh your heart..
but this is how we do it now!

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I don't know what they did back then to weigh your heart..
but this is how we do it now!

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The study I saw involved weighing a person just prior to and just after death. The difference was 2 Oz. Was it the life force that had left? The soul, or heart?

Sorry for the thread drift.


Regarding the weight of the soul, I stand corrected.
The data was from a discredited study in 1907. It was actually 21 grams.



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>>>This myth, reinforced by a 2003 fictional movie by the otherwise rather cryptic title “21 grams” is occasionally thrown to non-supernaturalists as one more “proof” that we are fools, by our own standards of reason and evidence.

It turns out that the only source for the 21 gram figure is a discredited study carried out in 1907 by a Haverhill, Massachusetts, doctor by the name of Duncan MacDougall. He managed (apparently overcoming any ethical qualms over human experimentation) to put six dying people on a bed equipped with sensitive springs, and claimed to have observed a sudden loss of weight – about ¾ of an ounce – at the exact moment of their death. Having reasoned that such loss could not be explained by bowel movements or evaporation, he concluded he must have measured the weight of the soul. A follow-up experiment also showed that dogs (which were healthy, so they were probably poisoned on purpose by the good doctor) don't seem to suffer the same sort of loss, therefore they don't have souls (sorry, you canine lovers).

This is an excellent example of where pseudoscience and belief go wrong, on a variety of levels. Let us start with MacDougall's claim itself: it turns out that his data were decidedly unreliable by any decent scientific standard. Not only was the experiment never repeated (by either MaDougall or anyone else), but his own notes (published in American Medicine in March 1907) show that of the six data points, two had to be discarded as “of no value”; two recorded a weight drop, followed by additional losses later on (was the soul leaving bit by bit?); one showed a reversal of the loss, then another loss (the soul couldn't make up its mind, leaving, re-entering, then leaving for good); and only one case actually constitutes the basis of the legendary estimate of ¾ of an ounce. With data like these, it's a miracle the paper got published in the first place.

Second, as was pointed out immediately by Dr. Augustus P. Clarke in a rebuttal also published in American Medicine, MacDougall failed to consider another obvious hypothesis: that the weight loss (assuming it was real) was due to evaporation caused by the sudden rise in body temperature that occurs when the blood circulation stops and the blood can no longer be air-cooled by the lungs. This also elegantly explains why the dogs showed no weight loss: as is well known, they cool themselves by panting, not sweating like humans do.

Third, MacDougall's allegedly inescapable conclusion (“How other shall we explain it?”) did not derive from any theory of the soul, but was simply arrived at by excluding a small number of other possibilities. In other words, the soul “explanation” won by default, without having to go through the onerous process of positive confirmation. This is yet another version of the “god-of-the-gaps” argument so in vogue among the faithful, and that constitutes the backbone – such as it is – of Intelligent Design “theory.”

But perhaps most damning of all is the very idea that the soul has weight. Whatever it is, the soul since Plato's time has been understood as immaterial, i.e. without mass and, therefore, weightless. Obviously, this in turn raises all the classic problems of dualism: how can something immaterial interact with a material world? How can ghosts walk through walls and yet “see” things or make noises? How can the mind direct our actions – that famous conundrum that stymied Descartes – if it is an incorporeal “substance” (itself an oxymoron)?

Even more basically: why are the so-called “faithful” perennially in search of scientific confirmation of their inanities? Shouldn't faith be enough? Indeed, isn't the very idea of faith as a value that one should hold fast to it, not only despite the lack of evidence, but even in the face of contrary evidence? C'mon guys, I'm beginning to think that somewhere in your subconscious you have this terrifying suspicion that you really believe in nonsense, and are therefore desperate to get science to provide some evidence, however flimsy, that you are right after all. Why not shed the superstition altogether and see what happens? It's a nice, comprehensible world out here. <<<

To have a heavy heart is to be saddened by events or emotions run amuck. Makes me want to stop all ill will (judgements) towards myself and others. Not so easy given the western mind but more than doable.

In fact, isn't this how we end war ... ending our own judgements ourselves. If one is reflected in the whole, the sooner we end our own "wars" the sooner the world wars cease.

Food for thought to lighten the heart.

There were folks around before the egyptians and the building of the pyramids but they were family ;)

Take care
Tann

Truth spans all ages.

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The feather is the truth to the hawk that guides you after the light of god,first you receive the light of god then the bars rise from great mountian in sky,then you see pray formation to mountian in sky,then you see them go in mountian formation,then you see smoke balls come down,in stream like,four on each side of mountian,then your jouney starts,the hawk stoped me in intersections of great wisdom,on dec 21 2006 this happened,i felt my self and my flag in hands go through the gate when the bars split into wavy lines that you see carved in stone,it is the mountian of god.But no body heres my voice,this is why you lost your dollar and your stocks,but no body heard my voice,these are djed pillars,these pillars rise from god mountian in sky.The usa does not know the true meaning of god light as per carved in stone in the hieroglyphics,this is why yall lost stability,the stability of all nations is the djed pillars as per carved in stone,but no body heres me,i say to gather the 22 leaders of faith cost less to train one solidier in these thousands years of sinceless wars,but no body heres me,but i know since i got god light that that is the way we gain back stability,but no body in usa heres me,the hieroglyphics is the language of all nations,it allways makes adjustments in equall weight of all things,great mountian forms with all mass elements of the universe and earth,nasa knows of its location dec 21 2006,they seen the witness taking pictures of great mountian in sky,now i'm dead meat,my famillys life is in danger,just because i have the plan for world peace and i have the hieroglyphics light sequence.the peace plan was real simple,but no body heres.so i feel like i'm the only one in the world that knows,but i know the witness knows,and i know that nasa knows,they cut down the baby owl tree,you can re stabilize your nation with my flag,its real simple,all of this could of been avoided for about 10 cents,but i would just give a free copy of flag.a whole nation in panic for no reason,this is my nation i love my nation,and all nations,this is my nest,therfore respect it.unity peace freedom tah.

The feather is in sequence to when the hawk comes out the sky for you to guide you after you get light of god,its all carved in stone in exact sequence to your dates of dec 21 2006,If you do the math your time since dec 21 2006,you can see the truth,the only way is the djed pillars of god,there is no way around them,it sends a wave of truth of stability across the whole earth,the triangels of light from universe they coeinside,fools send children to the front lines to fire missles,true leaders meet at the front lines to save the inocent lives,if a leader of any nation does not offer his are her self for world peace and stability,they never was your protector,nor your leader,one leader of its nation one leader of faith to gether on all front lines is the truth of peace,your nations problems have been your faith since your birth,there are 22 faiths in all,for any leader of any nation not give his are her self to safegaurd your nest,be no leader at all,It sickens me to see israel mark its tanks with the triangel,it sickens me to see fools of this earth bomb for there own beleif,its sickens me further of the usa giving weapons of mass distruction to aid this never ending cycles od destruction,when the cia was informed of the peace plan.it sickens me to no end my great nation have no ears to the greatis wisdom of this earth keep secrete for the bush administration,it sickens me to know president bush gave science millions to keep the secret of great mountian in sky,great mountian of god forms with all mass elements of the universe and earth.I ramain unity peace freedom TAH.

Not for sale not for resale my great nation,my great nest.UNITY PEACE FREEDOM.

Att bar-ack oboma you are in a state of bar-acks=djed pillars,mountian of god forms with all mass elements,this flag sequence is the true light of god,we as a nation must learn the great wisdom as a team,as we set a new foundation in truth and stability.I will not stand for seeing my great nation fall,when i have hieroglyphics sequence to the truth of all nations,my voice screams that my great nation here my voice,as i have screamed many moons,How dare the cia hold the truth to peace on this earth.How dare.

THANK YOU!

Last night my friend also shared with me her insight that the lower 3 chakras are of the world and the top three are of the spirit. The idea is to bring the light down through the top three into the world through the lower 3 and the Heart is the key between the two. Divine Love is the Way.

May your Heart be Light (as a feather).

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The greatis wisdom of hieroglyphics is the truth,it surpasses all the bulshit added writeings over the thousands years,when them bars rise,thats true comunications as we see since dec 21 2006.That why it is called the language of all nations,you not even need to speek,i was elected to the light with my flag,for every street,every name,east north south west,from the very beginnig will hold truth to dec 21 2006 with my flag for world peace.For our great nation was founded on the gun and war,it lost on the stocks of the guns as they went in the ground next to a flag pole.Who held the wisdom of djed pillars and the witness of god,as great mountian is the truth of god light as per carved in stone.Trust in no one who held the truth to the people of world peace.These people will have the most to loose.True leaders give there self to there nations for peace.PERIOD.as the hawk has been my guide.

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The only way to be light as a feather is the hold onto nothing

Realize this is an illusion to trap you and if it can I trap you it's a slow torture

You understand these words this is the nature of your life so try to get it right