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What's a good shotgun?

 
Pharmacist
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What's a good shotgun?
I'm buying a shotgun and want to know which to buy. I'm looking for a good home defence/ tatical shotgun. I'm looking at a Remington 870 and a mossburg 590. Any opinions?
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I'm buying a shotgun and want to know which to buy. I'm looking for a good home defence/ tatical shotgun. I'm looking at a Remington 870 and a mossburg 590. Any opinions?
 Quoting: Pharmacist

Either one will certainly fill the bill for home defense. The Mossberg will already come with most of the "tactical" mods that folks might add, but it's up to you if the increased price justifies the 590 over the plain 500. The 870 comes in many flavors as well. We both know Memphis, where have you been shopping?
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Re: What's a good shotgun?
I just bought a pistol from a place in olive branch, that was because I got a good deal on it. Cost me a fee to have it delivered to a shop in tennesse off Germantown road in Cordova called Classic Arms. But I don't remember the name of the shop in Olive Branch. That was the first gun I've bought.

I really want the remington 870 Marine, but I'm having a hard time justifying the exrta money for the nickel look lol. And ya I'm looking for the extras.
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Re: What's a good shotgun?
One that doesn't work. Guns are the devils work, and those that use them are evil spawn.
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Re: What's a good shotgun?
i much prefer my remmington over my mossberg
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Re: What's a good shotgun?
I'm buying a shotgun and want to know which to buy. I'm looking for a good home defence/ tatical shotgun. I'm looking at a Remington 870 and a mossburg 590. Any opinions?

Either one will certainly fill the bill for home defense. The Mossberg will already come with most of the "tactical" mods that folks might add, but it's up to you if the increased price justifies the 590 over the plain 500. The 870 comes in many flavors as well. We both know Memphis, where have you been shopping?
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its a shotgun you dont want any mods.
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Re: What's a good shotgun?
its a shotgun you dont want any mods.
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If he's using it strictly as home defense or part of a bug-out kit then some I'd recommend some mods like an 18" barrel, magazine extension, and a mounted flashlight. A shorter weapon allows greater mobility when moving down a hallway or in a confined space. The mag ext'n and light are self-explanatory. The one useless mod is the pistol grip. Keep the buttstock for shouldered shots and if you practice shooting from the hip, you can clamp down on the buttstock with your arm. And remember to grip the forearm as far forward as possible...much easier to swing around.

A little off-topic, but the best pistol set up I've ever seen for home defense (not carry) is a 1911 with a flashlight mounted on the magazine, Crimson Trace laser grip and night sights.
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I really want the remington 870 Marine, but I'm having a hard time justifying the exrta money for the nickel look lol. And ya I'm looking for the extras.
 Quoting: Pharmacist

The 870 Marine would go a long way in a humid climate. A low-cost alternative would be to strip it down and give it a coat of a good bake-on finish like you can find at Brownell's.
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Re: What's a good shotgun?
Shotty is not great for home defense, to loud, bulky as fuck, heavy and extremely dangerous to EVERYONE.

Get something smaller, [link to en.wikipedia.org]


Shit will put the victim down without much of a mess. Don't expect them to be breathing if shot in the chest, headshots are instant kill, never heard of anyone surviving a .45 to the dome. Its small enough to allow you to be able to maneuver quickly.


[link to www.rrarms.com]
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Re: What's a good shotgun?
cant go wrong with the various 870 express tacticals

if you want a good auto shotgun, the 930 Autoloader. Think it holds 7+1 shells

its a bad ass shotgun, and affordable
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Re: What's a good shotgun?
Shotty is not great for home defense, to loud, bulky as fuck, heavy and extremely dangerous to EVERYONE.

Get something smaller, [link to en.wikipedia.org]


Shit will put the victim down without much of a mess. Don't expect them to be breathing if shot in the chest, headshots are instant kill, never heard of anyone surviving a .45 to the dome. Its small enough to allow you to be able to maneuver quickly.


[link to www.rrarms.com]
 Quoting: Home defense. 735657

I beg to differ! Any knowledgeable shooter will tell you a shotgun is the #1 choice in home defense. Even #7 or #8 shot will do the job. The #1 problem with using bullets inside the home is over-penetration through interior (and possibly exterior) walls.
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Re: What's a good shotgun?
do you want a pump action or an over under?
a good point to decide in buying one...


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Re: What's a good shotgun?
cant go wrong with the various 870 express tacticals

if you want a good auto shotgun, the 930 Autoloader. Think it holds 7+1 shells

its a bad ass shotgun, and affordable
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 743501

Yeah it's not a bad deal at all. The only reason I'd stay away from a semi-auto though is the increased chances of a mechanical failure at the critical moment simply due to the number of small parts that make it work. You can take your chances, but...
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Re: What's a good shotgun?
Shotty is not great for home defense, to loud, bulky as fuck, heavy and extremely dangerous to EVERYONE.

Get something smaller, [link to en.wikipedia.org]


Shit will put the victim down without much of a mess. Don't expect them to be breathing if shot in the chest, headshots are instant kill, never heard of anyone surviving a .45 to the dome. Its small enough to allow you to be able to maneuver quickly.


[link to www.rrarms.com]

I beg to differ! Any knowledgeable shooter will tell you a shotgun is the #1 choice in home defense. Even #7 or #8 shot will do the job. The #1 problem with using bullets inside the home is over-penetration through interior (and possibly exterior) walls.
 Quoting: Red Auroras 743404


Seriously, do you want a fucking hole in your wall full of buckshot and blood because you need to down some fuckin kid trying to steal your T.V.?

Bad Choice.....

Imagine:
Kid: Hah going to break in a steal some shit and scare the fuck outta the people inside for a rush.
You: O shit I hear something, lets get that shotty i just bought.
*Wife hies while you leave your room, walk around the corner to encounter some punk bitch.
*BOOM Shotty goes off, half the fucking kid is gone and blood is everywhere, hole in wall behind and blood all over you as well! You'd be disgusted and freaked out. Its not fun.

Better Choice.....

Otherwise:
*Kid: Hah going to break in a steal some shit and scare the fuck outta the people inside for a rush.
*You: O shit I hear something, lets get that .45 i just bought.
*Wife hies while you leave your room, walk around the corner to encounter some punk bitch.
*BOOM, HEADSHOT. Kid drops, minimal blood splatter, minimal damage to house and property.



You need one shot, one kill without the mess. Do you even own a home? Probably not.
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Re: What's a good shotgun?
I beg to differ! Any knowledgeable shooter will tell you a shotgun is the #1 choice in home defense. Even #7 or #8 shot will do the job. The #1 problem with using bullets inside the home is over-penetration through interior (and possibly exterior) walls.


Seriously, do you want a fucking hole in your wall full of buckshot and blood because you need to down some fuckin kid trying to steal your T.V.?

Seriously, do you want a bullet to travel through a wall and kill an innocent bystander like your wife or child in the next room?

Bad Choice.....

Imagine:
Kid: Hah going to break in a steal some shit and scare the fuck outta the people inside for a rush.
You: O shit I hear something, lets get that shotty i just bought.
*Wife hies while you leave your room, walk around the corner to encounter some punk bitch.
*BOOM Shotty goes off, half the fucking kid is gone and blood is everywhere, hole in wall behind and blood all over you as well! You'd be disgusted and freaked out. Its not fun.

But you'd be alive.
Better Choice.....

Otherwise:
*Kid: Hah going to break in a steal some shit and scare the fuck outta the people inside for a rush.
*You: O shit I hear something, lets get that .45 i just bought.
*Wife hies while you leave your room, walk around the corner to encounter some punk bitch.
*BOOM, HEADSHOT. Kid drops, minimal blood splatter, minimal damage to house and property.

You need one shot, one kill without the mess. Do you even own a home? Probably not.
 Quoting: HEADSHOT 735657

Yes I do and obviously you've been spending too much time playing video games. You obviously weren't paying attention earlier or you wouldn't have mentioned "buckshot". Your attitude will get you fried in court if you ever have to face reality. Try reading up on the subject before spouting bullshit that could get someone killed. I strongly suggest anything written by Massad Ayoob for starters. At this point I suspect I've forgotten more info about firearms than you'll ever learn at this rate.
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Re: What's a good shotgun?
I beg to differ! Any knowledgeable shooter will tell you a shotgun is the #1 choice in home defense. Even #7 or #8 shot will do the job. The #1 problem with using bullets inside the home is over-penetration through interior (and possibly exterior) walls.


Seriously, do you want a fucking hole in your wall full of buckshot and blood because you need to down some fuckin kid trying to steal your T.V.?

Seriously, do you want a bullet to travel through a wall and kill an innocent bystander like your wife or child in the next room?

Bad Choice.....

Imagine:
Kid: Hah going to break in a steal some shit and scare the fuck outta the people inside for a rush.
You: O shit I hear something, lets get that shotty i just bought.
*Wife hies while you leave your room, walk around the corner to encounter some punk bitch.
*BOOM Shotty goes off, half the fucking kid is gone and blood is everywhere, hole in wall behind and blood all over you as well! You'd be disgusted and freaked out. Its not fun.

But you'd be alive.
Better Choice.....

Otherwise:
*Kid: Hah going to break in a steal some shit and scare the fuck outta the people inside for a rush.
*You: O shit I hear something, lets get that .45 i just bought.
*Wife hies while you leave your room, walk around the corner to encounter some punk bitch.
*BOOM, HEADSHOT. Kid drops, minimal blood splatter, minimal damage to house and property.

You need one shot, one kill without the mess. Do you even own a home? Probably not.

Yes I do and obviously you've been spending too much time playing video games. You obviously weren't paying attention earlier or you wouldn't have mentioned "buckshot". Your attitude will get you fried in court if you ever have to face reality. Try reading up on the subject before spouting bullshit that could get someone killed. I strongly suggest anything written by Massad Ayoob for starters. At this point I suspect I've forgotten more info about firearms than you'll ever learn at this rate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 743404


Haha. Good, glad you're weakminded. This will make you easy prey.

Fried in court? WTF your so stupid that doesn't make any sense and has nothing to do with what I posted.

Don't tell me that you are suggesting using a slug because that is as stupid as using the shotgun in the first place. Doubt the OP could handle the noise or recoil without hurting himself.

Simply giving a better suggestion but if reading a book will make buckshot not penetrate the side of a house then you have discovered some amazing in literature.

LOL

Go fuck yourself. To late, your post did that for you.

Anything else bitch?
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Haha. Good, glad you're weakminded. This will make you easy prey.

Fried in court? WTF your so stupid that doesn't make any sense and has nothing to do with what I posted.

Don't tell me that you are suggesting using a slug because that is as stupid as using the shotgun in the first place. Doubt the OP could handle the noise or recoil without hurting himself.

Simply giving a better suggestion but if reading a book will make buckshot not penetrate the side of a house then you have discovered some amazing in literature.

LOL

Go fuck yourself. To late, your post did that for you.

Anything else bitch?
 Quoting: Fuck off 735657

Fine...believe what you want to and I'll do the same. Since your unwilling to even read what I've posted much less study respected literature by widely-acknowledged experts before you come here spouting bullshit and resorting to slander against myself and others, then you're on your own. Good luck punk. I suspect you'll need it some day. I'm done trying to help you comprehend when you won't help yourself.
And BTW, easy prey? Bring it on. If I'm not at home at the time, my daughter could handle you with her 20ga.
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Re: What's a good shotgun?
Hey if you two had this argument in a pub would you end up shooting each other?

BTW I'm not american, don't own a gun, and haven't fired one for years, but I have heard of and read Maasad Ayoob.

He is a good writer and actually seems OK for a cop. I know, based on that, which of you I'd listen to.
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Re: What's a good shotgun?
Pistols at dawn?

Feeling lucky punk?

My dicks bigger than your dick.

You guys are a bunch of gung ho wallys.
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Re: What's a good shotgun?
I'm buying a shotgun and want to know which to buy. I'm looking for a good home defence/ tatical shotgun. I'm looking at a Remington 870 and a mossburg 590. Any opinions?
 Quoting: Pharmacist


I got a Saiga 12. It's an AK-47 modified to shoot 12 gauge shells. It handles up to 3" magnums. The nice thing is that you have 5 round box magazines, which are much faster to reload than the tube mags on your typical pump gun. You can also get 8, 12, and even 40 round magazines.

A Saiga with a 24 (I think) round magazine replaced the light machine gun in a lot of urban combat type applications for the Russians in Chechnya.

And the weapon itself is very well made. Sturdy, solid, and everything fits great. Top rate fit and finish for a military weapon.
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Re: What's a good shotgun?
Hey if you two had this argument in a pub would you end up shooting each other?

BTW I'm not american, don't own a gun, and haven't fired one for years, but I have heard of and read Maasad Ayoob.

He is a good writer and actually seems OK for a cop. I know, based on that, which of you I'd listen to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 743545

Heh heh...I don't think he was old enough to get in a pub! He probably saw the name Ayoob and thought Taliban/AlQuaeda.
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Re: What's a good shotgun?
Either one will do nicely. The Mossberg's safety is better located for lefties.
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Either one will do nicely. The Mossberg's safety is better located for lefties.
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I could've sure used you in here last night ET
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Don't most criminals travel in pairs? Over penetration may be a good thing! ;)
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Re: What's a good shotgun?
Depends on what you're using it for.

I like the Mossberg 500 Field & Deer combo. Great shotgun with interchangeable barrels - a rifled and a smooth bore barrel.
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Jesus, look at all the strutting in here!
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Re: What's a good shotgun?
Basic action of the Mossberg is fine, but I don't like the plastic trigger guard or safety.

Get the Remington 870 Express pump - no frills, basic wood, beadblasted finish.
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Jesus, look at all the strutting in here!
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No strutting. I calmly walked out.
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Either one will do nicely. The Mossberg's safety is better located for lefties.

I could've sure used you in here last night ET
 Quoting: Red Auroras 743404

LOL

Funny that the people that do that sort of thing for a living carry shotguns and carbines when they clear a building, when they can choose any weapon they wish.





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