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What does this mean in Revelation 6?

 
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You're trying to understand the babble!

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The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline.
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Oh give me a fucking break!

Go quote the babble to yourself, but not me thank you very much.
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The stars of the sky fell to the earth, ...

Revelation 6
13 The stars of the sky fell to the earth, like a fig tree
 dropping its unripe figs when it is shaken by a great wind.

Who or what are those stars?
 Quoting: Haile Menelik


The Stars Fall. On the night of November 12, 1833, (early morning November 13, 1833), the greatest meteor shower of in history occurred. It had as many a 100,000 or more shooting stars per hour. The intensity and nature of the stars looked like they were shooting past on all sides (going outward from the center in call directions), just like figs being shaken from a fig tree by a mighty wind. The display was so spectacular that it jump started the modern field of astronomy.

"The morning of November 13, 1833, was rendered memorable by an exhibition of the phenomenon called shooting stars, which was probably more extensive and magnificent than any similar one recorded before this ...
 
"Probably no celestial phenomenon has ever occurred in this country, since its first settlement, which was viewed with so much admiration and delight by one class of spectators, or with so much astonishment and fear by another class ..." Denison Olmsted, "Observations on the Meteors of November 13, 1833," The American Journal of Science and the Arts, 25 ([January ?] 1834), page 363.
 
"For nearly four hours the sky was literally ablaze ... Careful scientific accounts indicate that more than a billion shooting stars appeared over the United States and Canada alone." Peter M. Millman, "The Falling of the Stars," The Telescope, 7 (May - June, 1940), 57.
Church or Event Year
Dark Sun 1780
French Revolution 1789
Mormon 1830
Stars Fall 1833
Bahai 1844
Christadelphian 1844
Southern Baptists 1845
Messianic Judaism 1850
Seventh Day Adventist 1860
Salvation Army 1865
Holiness Movement 1867
Jehovah's witnesses 1870
Christian Science 1879
Pentecostal 1906
Assemblies of God 1914
Unification Church 1954

Notice how the physical signs mirrored the spiritual signs and preceeded them by a few years. 
» Apostasy and Persecution ("Black Sun and Bloody Moon"). The dark sun was the church in the French Revolution (1789). The blood moon was the persecuted church.
 
» Protestant Denominations ("Stars"). The earthquake and falling stars are the physical signs of the spiritual rift that was occurring. According to the blessings, we should grow to be as numberless as the stars. But the church lost its children or the stars God gave them after the great earthquake or split in unity which began with the Protestant Reformation. 

The Protestant church broke away into hundreds of stars that fell away from the church and many groups formed after 1833. Many other semi-Christian churches also formed. - [link to www.teachinghearts.org]

The stars literaly fell 3 years AFTER the true church was RESTORED, then the stars fell symbolically.

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The stars of the sky fell to the earth, ...


Revelation 6
13 The stars of the sky fell to the earth, like a fig tree
 dropping its unripe figs when it is shaken by a great wind.

Who or what are those stars?


The Stars Fall. On the night of November 12, 1833, (early morning November 13, 1833), the greatest meteor shower of in history occurred. It had as many a 100,000 or more shooting stars per hour. The intensity and nature of the stars looked like they were shooting past on all sides (going outward from the center in call directions), just like figs being shaken from a fig tree by a mighty wind. The display was so spectacular that it jump started the modern field of astronomy.

 Quoting: MagiChristmas



You got it wrong.

On purpuse?
Marcus 11: 22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
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Revelation 6
13 The stars of the sky fell to the earth, like a fig tree
dropping its unripe figs when it is shaken by a great wind.

Who or what are those stars?




STARS people, starship are here in the sky now, they will soon decloak and after we been raised up in vibration to meet them, they will land on earth.

UFO? no, starships
(This week was off the charts! Are we are getting closer to the time when bam, UFOs and ETs everywhere will be a norm?)

Unidentified Aerial Phenomena were spotted over: Alabama, Arkansas, California, Georgia, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Kentucky, Michigan, Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Oregon, Tennessee, Texas, West Virginia, Washington and Wisconsin. UFOs were observed in Australia, Canada, China, Costa Rica, Italy, Netherlands, Nicaragua, South Korea, and UK/England.



[link to groups.yahoo.com]



Are you talking about a hostile invasion? Because no where do I see friendly stars in Revelations.
 Quoting: Haile Menelik



Do you read the verse about the eternal gospel that the angel will preach at the end time? Do you remember the christ said that when he returns he will bring billion of angels with him?
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Revelation 6
13 The stars of the sky fell to the earth, like a fig tree
dropping its unripe figs when it is shaken by a great wind.

Who or what are those stars?
 Quoting: Haile Menelik



sounds like Stalking Wolfs night of the bleeding stars...

when you see the night of the bleeding stars, you have ONE calendar year, before all hell breaks loose...
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Revelation 6
13 The stars of the sky fell to the earth, like a fig tree
dropping its unripe figs when it is shaken by a great wind.

Who or what are those stars?




STARS people, starship are here in the sky now, they will soon decloak and after we been raised up in vibration to meet them, they will land on earth.

UFO? no, starships
(This week was off the charts! Are we are getting closer to the time when bam, UFOs and ETs everywhere will be a norm?)

Unidentified Aerial Phenomena were spotted over: Alabama, Arkansas, California, Georgia, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Kentucky, Michigan, Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Oregon, Tennessee, Texas, West Virginia, Washington and Wisconsin. UFOs were observed in Australia, Canada, China, Costa Rica, Italy, Netherlands, Nicaragua, South Korea, and UK/England.



[link to groups.yahoo.com]



Are you talking about a hostile invasion? Because no where do I see friendly stars in Revelations.



Do you read the verse about the eternal gospel that the angel will preach at the end time? Do you remember the christ said that when he returns he will bring billion of angels with him?
 Quoting: urantian 769181


Ahahhhhhhhhhh


This is an incarnated angel. I believe. Sorry.
Marcus 11: 22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
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Grandfather had been wandering for several years and was well into his forties when the Vision of the four signs were given to him. He had just finished his third Vision Quest at the Eternal Cave when the Vision made itself known. He had been seated at the mouth of the cave, awaiting the rising sun, when the spirit of the warrior appeared to him. He felt as if he were in a state somewhere between dream and reality, sleep and wakefulness, until the spirit finally spoke and he knew that it was not his imagination. The spirit called Grandfather's name and beckoned him to follow. As Grandfather stood, he was suddenly transported to another world. Again he thought that he was dreaming, but his flesh could feel the reality of this place; his senses knew that this was a state of abject reality but in another time and place.

THE FIRST VISION

The spirit warrior spoke to Grandfather, saying, "These are the things yet to come that will mark the destruction of man. These things you may never see, but you must work to stop them and pass these warnings on to your grandchildren. They are the possible futures of what will come if man does not come back to the Earth and begin to obey the laws of Creation and the Creator. There are four signs, four warnings, that only the children of the Earth will understand. Each warning marks the beginning of a possible future, and as each warning becomes reality, so, too, does the future it marks." With that the spirit warrior was gone and Grandfather was left alone in this strange new world.

The world he was in was like nothing he had ever known. It was a dry place, with little vegetation. In the distance he saw a village, yet it was made out of tents and cloth rather than from the materials of the Earth. As he drew closer to the village the stench of death overwhelmed him and he grew sick. He could hear children crying, the moaning of elders, and the sounds of sickness and despair. Piles of bodies lay in open pits awaiting burial, their contorted faces and frail bodies foretelling of death from starvation. The bodies appeared more like skeletons than flesh, and children, adults, and elders all looked the same, their once dark brown complexions now ash gray.

As Grandfather entered the village, the horror of living starvation struck him deeper. Children could barely walk, elders lay dying, and everywhere were the cries of pain and fear. The stench of death and the sense of hopelessness overwhelmed Grandfather, threatening to drive him from the village. It was then that an elder appeared to Grandfather, at first speaking in a language that he could not understand. Grandfather realized as the elder spoke that he was the spirit of a man, a man no longer of flesh but a man that had once walked a spiritual path, possibly a shaman of this tribe. It was then that he understood what the old one was trying to tell him.

The elder spoke softly, saying, "Welcome to what will be called the land of starvation. The world will one day look upon all of this with horror and will blame the famine on the weather and the Earth. This will be the first warning to the world that man cannot live beyond the laws of Creation, nor can he fight Nature. If the world sees that it is to blame for this famine, this senseless starvation, then a great lesson will be learned. But I am afraid that the world will not blame itself but that the blame will be placed on Nature. The world will not see that it created this place of death by forcing these people to have larger families. When the natural laws of the land were broken, the people starved, as Nature starves the deer in winter when their numbers are too many for the land to bear."

The old one continued. "These people should have been left alone. They once understood how to live with the Earth, and their wealth was measured in happiness, love, and peace. But all of that was taken from them when the world saw theirs as a primitive society. It was then that the world showed them how to farm and live in a less primitive way. It was the world that forced them to live outside the laws of creation and as a result is now forcing them to die." The old man slowly began to walk away, back to the death and despair. He turned one last time to Grandfather and said, "This will be the first sign. There will come starvation before and after this starvation, but none will capture the attention of the world with such impact as does this one. The children of the Earth will know the lessons that are held in all of this pain and death, but the world will only see it as drought and famine, blaming Nature instead of itself." With that the old one disappeared, and Grandfather found himself back at the mouth of the Eternal Cave.

(Editor's note: This was the great African famine that inspired the Bob Geldof "We are the world" relief effort).

Grandfather lay back on the ground, thinking about what he had witnessed. He knew that it had been a Vision of the possible future and that the spirit of the warrior had brought him to it to teach him what could happen. Grandfather knew that people all over the Earth were now starving, but why was this starvation so critical, so much more important than all the rest, even more important than the starvation that was taking place now? It was then that Grandfather recalled that the tribal elder had said that the entire world would take notice but that the world would not learn the lessons of what the death and famine were trying to teach. The children would die in vain.

Grandfather looked out across the barren land that surrounded the Eternal Cave to try to reestablish the reality of his now. He said that it was still hard to discern between waking reality and the world of Vision, but he felt that he was back into his time and place. He told me that the Eternal Cave was always a place to find Visions of the possible and probable futures, and it was not uncommon for the searcher to have a vision at the mouth of the cave and not just inside. In a state of physical and emotional exhaustion, Grandfather fell into a deep sleep, but it was in this sleep that the warrior spirit appeared to him again and brought the remainder of the first sign to completion.

In his dream the spirit spoke to Grandfather, saying, "It is during the years of the famine, the first sign, that man will be plagued by a disease, a disease that will sweep the land and terrorize the masses. The doctors (white coats) will have no answers for the people and a great cry will arise across the land. The disease will be born of monkeys, drugs, and sex. It will destroy man from inside, making common sickness a killing disease. Mankind will bring this disease upon himself as a result of his life, his worship of sex and drugs, and a life away from Nature. This, too, is a part of the first warning, but again man will not heed this warning and he will continue to worship the false gods of sex and the unconscious spirit of drugs."

(Editor's note: He is, of course, talking about AIDS).

The spirit continued, saying, "The drugs will produce wars in the cities of man, and the nations will arise against those wars, arise against that killing disease. But the nations will fight in the wrong way, lashing out at the effect rather than the cause. It will never win these wars until the nation, until society, changes its values and stops chasing the gods of sex and drugs. It is then, in the years of the first sign, that man can change the course of the probable future. It is then that he may understand the greater lessons of the famine and the disease. It is then that there can still be hope. But once the second sign of destruction appears, the Earth can no longer be healed on a physical level. Only a spiritual healing can then change the course of the probable futures of mankind." With that the warrior spirit let Grandfather fall into a deep and dreamless sleep, allowing him to rest fully before any more Vision was wrought upon him.

THE SECOND VISION

Grandfather awoke at the entrance of the cave once again, the memory of the warrior spirit still vivid in his mind, the spirit's words becoming part of his soul. When Grandfather looked out across the landscape, all had changed. The landscape appeared drier, there was no vegetation to be seen, and animals lay dying. A great stench of death arose from the land, and the dust was thick and choking, the intense heat oppressive. Looking skyward, the sun seemed to be larger and more intense; no birds or clouds could be seen; and the air seemed thicker still. It was then that the sky seemed to surge and huge holes began to appear. The holes tore with a resounding, thunderous sound, and the very Earth, rocks, and soil shook.

The skin of the sky seemed to be torn open like a series of gaping wounds, and through these wounds seeped a liquid that seemed like the oozing of an infection, a great sea of floating garbage, oil, and dead fish. It was through one of these wounds that Grandfather saw the floating bodies of dolphins, accompanied by tremendous upheavals of the Earth and of violent storms. As he held fast to the trembling Earth his eyes fell from the sky, and all about him, all at once, was disaster. Piles of garbage reached to the skies, forests lay cut and dying, coastlines flooded, and storms grew more violent and thunderous. With each passing moment the Earth shook with greater intensity, threatening to tear apart and swallow Grandfather.

Suddenly the Earth stopped shaking and the sky cleared. Out of the dusty air walked the warrior spirit, who stopped a short distance from Grandfather. As Grandfather looked into the face of the spirit he could see that there were great tears flowing from his eyes, and each tear fell to the Earth with a searing sound. The spirit looked at Grandfather for a long moment, then finally spoke, saying, "Holes in the sky." Grandfather thought for a moment, then, in a questioning, disbelieving manner, said, "Holes in the sky?" And the spirit answered, saying, "They will become the second sign of the destruction of man. The holes in the sky and all that you have seen could become man's reality. It is here, at the beginning of this second sign, that man can no longer heal the Earth with physical action. It is here that man must heed the warning and work harder to change the future at hand. But man must not only work physically, he must also work spiritually, through prayer, for only through prayer can man now hope to heal the Earth and himself."

There was a long pause as Grandfather thought about the impossibility of holes in the sky. Surely Grandfather knew that there could be a spiritual hole, but a hole that the societies of the Earth could notice would hardly seem likely. The spirit drew closer and spoke again, almost in a whisper. "These holes are a direct result of man's life, his travel, and of the sins of his grandfathers and grandmothers. These holes, the second sign, will mark the killing of his grandchildren and will become a legacy to man's life away from nature. It is the time of these holes that will mark a great transition in mankind's thinking. They will then be faced with a choice, a choice to continue following the path of destruction or a choice to move back to the philosophy of the Earth and a simpler existence. It is here that the decision must be made, or all will be lost." Without another word the spirit turned and walked back into the dust.

(Editor's note: The holes in the sky are the holes in the Ozone layer).

Grandfather spent the next four days at the cave entrance, though for those four days nothing spoke to him, not even the Earth. He said that it was a time of great sorrow, of aloneness, and a time to digest all that had taken place. He knew that these things would not appear in his lifetime, but they had to be passed down to the people of the future, with the same urgency and power with which they had been delivered to him. But he did not know how he would explain these unlikely events to anyone. Surely the elders and shamans of the tribes would understand, but not society, and certainly not anyone who was removed from the Earth and spirit. He sat for the full four days, unmoving, as if made of stone, and his heart felt heavy with the burden he now carried.

THE THIRD VISION - NIGHT OF THE RED SKIES

It was at the end of the fourth day that the third Vision came to him. As he gazed out onto the landscape toward the setting sun, the sky suddenly turned back to a liquid and then turned blood red. As far as his eyes could see, the sky was solid red, with no variation in shadow, texture, or light. The whole of creation seemed to have grown still, as if awaiting some unseen command. Time, place, and destiny seemed to be in limbo, stilled by the bleeding sky. He gazed for a long time at the sky, in a state of awe and terror, for the red color of the sky was like nothing he had ever seen in any sunset or sunrise. The color was that of man, not of Nature, and it had a vile stench and texture. It seemed to burn the Earth wherever it touched. As sunset drifted to night, the stars shone bright red, the color never leaving the sky, and everywhere was heard the cries of fear and pain.

Again the warrior spirit appeared to Grandfather, but this time as a voice from the sky. Like thunder, the voice shook the landscape, saying, "This, then, is the third sign, the night of the bleeding stars. It will become known throughout the world, for the sky in all lands will be red with the blood of the sky, day and night. It is then, with this sign of the third probable future, that there is no longer hope. Life on the Earth as man has lived it will come to an end, and there can be no turning back, physically or spiritually. It is then, if things are not changed during the second sign, that man will surely know the destruction of the Earth is at hand. It is then that the children of the Earth must run to the wild places and hide. For when the sky bleeds fire, there will be no safety in the world of man."

Grandfather sat in shocked horror as the voice continued. "From this time, when the stars bleed, to the fourth and final sign will be four seasons of peace. (That is, one year). It is in these four seasons that the children of the Earth must live deep in the wild places and find a new home, close to the Earth and the Creator. It is only the children of the Earth that will survive, and they must live the philosophy of the Earth, never returning to the thinking of man. And survival will not be enough, for the children of the Earth must also live close to the spirit. So tell them not to hesitate if and when this third sign becomes manifest in the stars, for there are but four seasons to escape." Grandfather said that the voice and red sky lingered for a week and then were gone as quickly as they were manifest.

THE FOURTH VISION

Grandfather did not remember how many days he'd spent at the mouth of the cave, nor did it make a difference, for he had received the Vision he had come for. It was in his final night at the Eternal Cave that the fourth Vision came to Grandfather, this time carried by the voice of a young child. The child spoke, saying, "The fourth and final sign will appear through the next ten winters (that is, ten years) following the night that the stars will bleed.

During this time the Earth will heal itself and man will die. For those ten years the children of the Earth must remain hidden in the wild places, make no permanent camps, and wander to avoid contact with the last remaining forces of man. They must remain hidden, like the ancient scouts and fight the urge to go back to the destruction of man. Curiosity could kill many."

There was a long silence, until Grandfather spoke to the child spirit, asking, "And what will happen to the worlds of man?" There was another period of silence until finally the child spoke again. "There will be a great famine throughout the world, like man cannot imagine. Waters will run vile, the poisons of man's sins running strong in the waters of the soils, lakes, and rivers. Crops will fail, the animals of man will die, and disease will kill the masses. The grandchildren will feed upon the remains of the dead, and all about will be the cries of pain and anguish. Roving bands of men will hunt and kill other men for food, and water will always be scarce, getting scarcer with each passing year. The land, the water, the sky will all be poisoned, and man will live in the wrath of the Creator. Man will hide at first in the cities, but there he will die. A few will run to the wilderness, but the wilderness will destroy them, for they had long ago been given a choice. Man will be destroyed, his cities in ruin, and it is then that the grandchildren will pay for the sins of their grandfathers and grandmothers." "Is there then no hope?" Grandfather asked.

The child spoke again. "There is only hope during the time of the first and second signs. Upon the third sign, the night of the bleeding, there is no longer hope, for only the children of the Earth will survive. Man will be given these warnings; if unheeded, there can be no hope, for only the children of the Earth will purge themselves of the cancers of mankind, of mankind's destructive thinking. It will be the children of the Earth who will bring a new hope to the new society, living closer to the Earth and spirit."

Then all was silent, the landscape cleared and returned to normal, and Grandfather stepped from the Vision. Shaken, he said that he had wandered for the next season, trying to understand all that had been given to him, trying to understand why he had been chosen.

Grandfather had related the story to me in great detail during that night of the four prophecies. I don't think that any event had been left out, and his emotions and thoughts were such that he actually relived it for us. Thus the power of his Vision became part of our spirit, our driving force, and a big part of our fears. I sat for a long time up on the hill. The fire had gone out, and all had retired to sleep for the night. Creation seemed to be at a standstill, awaiting this darkest part of the night to pass by. I felt alone and vulnerable, as if all of creation were scrutinizing my every thought. …

Grandfather had had this Vision sometime in the 1920s.

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The book of Revelation chronicles a pole shift. The stars falling to earth means the earth's crust has moved -- violently and so swiftly it seems like the stars fell out of the sky. The 4 horsemen of the apocolypse are the harbingers of a pole shift: volcanic activity (fire and brimstone, which is burning rock), earthquakes, etc.

Wake up, people. Pole shifts have been chronicled by archeologists and other scientists. The Bible and the Kolbrin are the only written accounts of a pole shift. Those who take the Bible literally know not of what it speaks.
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Revelation 6
13 The stars of the sky fell to the earth, like a fig tree
dropping its unripe figs when it is shaken by a great wind.

Who or what are those stars?

The sun will be blackened for awhile putting the whole world in darkness. It will be apparent that the Day of the Lord is at hand. The kings and great men of the world will hide in caves. The moon will become red. The stars will no longer give their light. The verse you asked about is probably figurative in nature. The main point.....they will no longer be there to provide any light or points of reference. The whole world will essentially be put in a state of darkness for awhile.
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The moon and sun will still be there, but the stars will fall. Dark clouds or something that looks like a Brown Dwarf is moving across the sky making the day look like twilight.
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At first I thought it might be a statistical thing as in 1/3 of the angels fell from heaven.

Then I started to think what would make 1/3 of the stars in heaven fall to earth.


Well its pretty easy one way and thats crustal slippage as the entire surface of the earth east or west 1/3.

Probably west and goes along with earthquakes and wind.

If worried get the cheapest and best bomb shelter.

The nearest railway tunnel.

The railway company won't mind as they won't be in business at the time, just get a truck put railroad track size hub extensions to clamp on the truck wheel hubs, get on the railroad and good to go.

No nasty freeway pileups, etc.
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The stars of the sky fell to the earth, ...


Revelation 6
13 The stars of the sky fell to the earth, like a fig tree
 dropping its unripe figs when it is shaken by a great wind.

Who or what are those stars?


The Stars Fall. On the night of November 12, 1833, (early morning November 13, 1833), the greatest meteor shower of in history occurred. It had as many a 100,000 or more shooting stars per hour. The intensity and nature of the stars looked like they were shooting past on all sides (going outward from the center in call directions), just like figs being shaken from a fig tree by a mighty wind. The display was so spectacular that it jump started the modern field of astronomy.


You got it wrong.

On purpuse?
 Quoting: Haile Menelik

The website claims to explain revelations, but I don't give it a lot of credence. The part quoted appears credible on the surface.

Wrong, as nothing unusual happened in 1833?

Please be more specific?

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The time for bible teaching is done.

The critical day has passed.

Satan is toast.

From this pont on he can not stop it.

Time is disappearing from the entire universe.

Slowly at first but the rate of disappearance
will increase following a Phi ratio.

There will be a weeping and gnashing of teeth by humans because they

no longer have enough time to read and understand the secret to salvation.

Even if you started NOW and read 16 hours a day ...

there is not have enough time to know the secret.

As time disappears the warp grows weaker.

This weakening of the warp will cause the constants of Physics
to change by an extremely small amount ...

just enough to cause the flesh to melt from the bones and the eyes to turn to water and drip off the cheeks of the face.

The day of wrath is in the very very near future.

The prince of Darkness can not stop it.

Finally ... all those who hate Christians will be gone.

Don't think that this is true ???
Read the Bible .. oh!! wait I'm sorry ... I forgot.
You are out of time ...
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You're trying to understand the babble!

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Proverbs 1:7
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline.


Oh give me a fucking break!

Go quote the babble to yourself, but not me thank you very much.
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You shall die without instruction;and in the greatness of your folly you shall go astray ...
Proverbs 5:23
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Revelation 6
13 The stars of the sky fell to the earth, like a fig tree
dropping its unripe figs when it is shaken by a great wind.

Who or what are those stars?
 Quoting: Haile Menelik


Bad angels being cast to the earth.
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Nope all wrong.

The Illuminati has plans to stage a False Flag UFO attack on the earth not one time but several times. In the bible there are several woe's described. Fallen Angels , Fallen Stars and even a Big Comet so big as a mountain would fall on earth. After these plagues the worst will come and this one is God himself and his 144000 Elect raptured and ready to destroy the wicked earth and annihilate Satans Kingdom.
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Revelation 6
13 The stars of the sky fell to the earth, like a fig tree
dropping its unripe figs when it is shaken by a great wind.

Who or what are those stars?
 Quoting: Haile Menelik


This will be the event where light will be no more. So, the stars won't be visible.

And it will be as if they fell from the sky.
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possibility: earth quakes that shakes various parts of the world also with that comes volcanic erruptions which creates ash and fumes that cover the sky. (black like sack cloth. scientist say that when yellowstone blew that there was ash for miles and for days the sky around there must have been dark. couple that with various winds to carry the ash and debris it might cover huge areas in the world depending on where the earth quake and the volcanos take place. (a few places i have in mind) the blood monn at night would cast a reflection of red from all the chemicals in the atmosphere during that same time.

youll be suprised how many meteor shower he have even on a regular basic. some predictable others not.



look up the perseid or orionids or leonid meteor showers



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The time for bible teaching is done.

The critical day has passed.

Satan is toast.

From this pont on he can not stop it.

Time is disappearing from the entire universe.

Slowly at first but the rate of disappearance
will increase following a Phi ratio.

There will be a weeping and gnashing of teeth by humans because they

no longer have enough time to read and understand the secret to salvation.

Even if you started NOW and read 16 hours a day ...

there is not have enough time to know the secret.

As time disappears the warp grows weaker.

This weakening of the warp will cause the constants of Physics
to change by an extremely small amount ...

just enough to cause the flesh to melt from the bones and the eyes to turn to water and drip off the cheeks of the face.

The day of wrath is in the very very near future.

The prince of Darkness can not stop it.

Finally ... all those who hate Christians will be gone.

Don't think that this is true ???
Read the Bible .. oh!! wait I'm sorry ... I forgot.
You are out of time ...
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LOL. the best thing god did was give satan a watch.
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All things do indeed testify of Christ. sun

The stars of the sky fell to the earth, ...


Revelation 6
13 The stars of the sky fell to the earth, like a fig tree
 dropping its unripe figs when it is shaken by a great wind.

Who or what are those stars?


The Stars Fall. On the night of November 12, 1833, (early morning November 13, 1833), the greatest meteor shower of in history occurred. It had as many a 100,000 or more shooting stars per hour. The intensity and nature of the stars looked like they were shooting past on all sides (going outward from the center in call directions), just like figs being shaken from a fig tree by a mighty wind. The display was so spectacular that it jump started the modern field of astronomy.




You got it wrong.

On purpuse?
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Top 2 results of 1833 Astronomy google search:

SPACE.com -- The 1833 Leonid Meteor Shower: A Frightening Flurry... The wild storm of 1833. - [link to www.space.com]

The Most Spectacular Meteor Shower of the Century. 
In 1833, astronomers predicted that 33 years later, in November of 1866, people would be able to see a spectacular meteor storm. That prediction came true. ... - [link to www.pureinsight.org]

Amazing that the church was restored in 1830, exactly 1800 years after the original Church of Jesus Christ. Then the most spectaclar meteor shower occured 1800 years after His crucifiction, and continue to this day on a "fickle" 33 year cycle.  33 being the age to which He lived.  

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Revelation 6
13 The stars of the sky fell to the earth, like a fig tree
dropping its unripe figs when it is shaken by a great wind.

Who or what are those stars?




STARS people, starship are here in the sky now, they will soon decloak and after we been raised up in vibration to meet them, they will land on earth.

UFO? no, starships
(This week was off the charts! Are we are getting closer to the time when bam, UFOs and ETs everywhere will be a norm?)

Unidentified Aerial Phenomena were spotted over: Alabama, Arkansas, California, Georgia, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Kentucky, Michigan, Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Oregon, Tennessee, Texas, West Virginia, Washington and Wisconsin. UFOs were observed in Australia, Canada, China, Costa Rica, Italy, Netherlands, Nicaragua, South Korea, and UK/England.



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Are you talking about a hostile invasion? Because no where do I see friendly stars in Revelations.
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It's not plural. It's REVELATION.
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Revelation 6
13 The stars of the sky fell to the earth, like a fig tree
dropping its unripe figs when it is shaken by a great wind.

Who or what are those stars?


The fallen angels/Ufo/Greys... "unripe" souls... great wind/Gods wind

Yes, Stars represent angels in the Bible...



True

So how do you think it is.

Satans Angels or Gods Angels?


The 'stars' are Satan and his followers.

But Satan does not have angels - all angels belong to GOD - even the fallen ones.



People are also stars according to the bible.
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I think this person is right and the stars are people because:

“I will surely bless you and make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as the sand on the seashore.” - Gen 22:17
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This person is more then a person.

I am A Star born to shine

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Revelation 6
13 The stars of the sky fell to the earth, like a fig tree
dropping its unripe figs when it is shaken by a great wind.

Who or what are those stars?
 Quoting: Haile Menelik



Haile, this earthquake graph will show you how close we are to the sixth seal opening, when this happens the most godly among us will tremble...be prepared to meet Jesus




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IT MEANS YOU BETTER REPENT OF ALL YOUR SINS TO THE MOST HIGH.

TIC TOCK
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Revelation 6
13 The stars of the sky fell to the earth, like a fig tree
dropping its unripe figs when it is shaken by a great wind.

Who or what are those stars?



Haile, this earthquake graph will show you how close we are to the sixth seal opening, when this happens the most godly among us will tremble...be prepared to meet Jesus




[link to www.thehorizonproject.com]
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Yup sinners will tremble..



Deuteronomy 2
25 This day will I begin to put the dread of you and the fear of you on the peoples who are under the whole sky,
who shall hear the report of you, and shall tremble, and be in anguish because of you.

Luke 21
25 There will be signs in the sun, moon, and stars; and on the earth anxiety of nations,
in perplexity for the roaring of the sea and the waves.
26 men fainting for fear, and for expectation of the things which are coming on the world:
for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
27 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

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Revelation 6
13 The stars of the sky fell to the earth, like a fig tree
dropping its unripe figs when it is shaken by a great wind.

Who or what are those stars?



Haile, this earthquake graph will show you how close we are to the sixth seal opening, when this happens the most godly among us will tremble...be prepared to meet Jesus




[link to www.thehorizonproject.com]


Yup sinners will tremble..



Deuteronomy 2
25 This day will I begin to put the dread of you and the fear of you on the peoples who are under the whole sky,
who shall hear the report of you, and shall tremble, and be in anguish because of you.

Luke 21
25 There will be signs in the sun, moon, and stars; and on the earth anxiety of nations,
in perplexity for the roaring of the sea and the waves.
26 men fainting for fear, and for expectation of the things which are coming on the world:
for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
27 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
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Haile, they HATE the word...when the seal is opened you will find it much easier to share salvation with the lost. Please understand the SEVENTH trump is when the rapture takes place, Read for yourself... AT THE LAST TRUMPET the dead in Christ shall rise the we who are alive shall rise to meet the Lord in the air.
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To really understand the Bible you must read the whole thing. Many verses are explained within other verses.

Rev 6:13 and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as late figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind.
 Quoting: chalcedony


Spiritual people.


(Mat 24:29 NIV) "Immediately after the distress of those days "'the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.'

(Mark 13:24-25 NIV) "But in those days, following that distress, "'the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; {25} the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.'

(Isa 34:4 NIV) All the stars of the heavens will be dissolved and the sky rolled up like a scroll; all the starry host will fall like withered leaves from the vine, like shriveled figs from the fig tree.

(Luke 21:25-26 NIV) "There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. {26} Men will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken.
 Quoting: chalcedony


The sun represents Christianity and the moon represents Islam. What does the fig tree represent? A belief system.


Now go to the end of the chapter where you found 6:13.

Rev 6:17 For the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?"

(Nahum 1:6 NIV) Who can withstand his indignation? Who can endure his fierce anger? His wrath is poured out like fire; the rocks are shattered before him.

Against Ninevah

Mal 3:2 But who can endure the day of his coming? Who can stand when he appears? For he will be like a refiner's fire or a launderer's soap.

Christ's Second Coming (or is it his first?)
 Quoting: chalcedony


It is about the Prophet that nobody told you about, the Son of Man.

SATURDAY, 12 SEPTEMBER 2009

NO ONE TOLD YOU ABOUT GOD'S MESSENGER - Isaiah 41 & 42
The Helper of Israel


So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand. I have stirred up one from the north, and he comes— one from the rising sun who calls on my name. He treads on rulers as if they were mortar, as if he were a potter treading the clay.

Who told of this from the beginning, so we could know, or beforehand, so we could say, 'He was right'? No one told of this, (to you) no one foretold it, (before they arrived) no one heard any words from you.

I was the first to tell Zion, 'Look, here they are!' I gave to Jerusalem a messenger of good tidings.[1]

Who is the Messenger that was sent from God to help Israel, do you know who they are?
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(Joel 2:11 NIV) The LORD thunders at the head of his army; his forces are beyond number, and mighty are those who obey his command. The day of the LORD is great; it is dreadful. Who can endure it?

The answer to "who can stand?" is found in Rev 7:9
 Quoting: chalcedony


Indeed who can stand before me and my God?

"All who rage against you will surely be ashamed and disgraced; those who oppose you will be as nothing and perish.Isaiah 41:11

Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when I punish them," says the LORD.Jeremiah 6:15

Then, when I make atonement for you for all you have done, you will remember and be ashamed and never again open your mouth because of your humiliation, declares the Sovereign LORD.' "Ezekiel 16:63

Nations will see and be ashamed, deprived of all their power. They will lay their hands on their mouths and their ears will become deaf.Micah 7:16

"On that day every prophet will be ashamed of his prophetic vision. He will not put on a prophet's garment of hair in order to deceive.Zechariah 13:4

If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels."Mark 8:38







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Commentary on Malachi 3
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Space junk wont raise so much smoke or dust to blot out the sun. It is meteorites or if man made - thermonuclear. We think of hurricanes as a result of warm water. Actually any water will do above freezing as long as the air is sufficiently colder. It is the delta T that drives it. Remember the atmospheric description in nuclear winter?
Total crop failure. Total infrastructure failure.
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Revelation 6
13 The stars of the sky fell to the earth, like a fig tree
dropping its unripe figs when it is shaken by a great wind.

Who or what are those stars?



Haile, this earthquake graph will show you how close we are to the sixth seal opening, when this happens the most godly among us will tremble...be prepared to meet Jesus




[link to www.thehorizonproject.com]


Yup sinners will tremble..



Deuteronomy 2
25 This day will I begin to put the dread of you and the fear of you on the peoples who are under the whole sky,
who shall hear the report of you, and shall tremble, and be in anguish because of you.

Luke 21
25 There will be signs in the sun, moon, and stars; and on the earth anxiety of nations,
in perplexity for the roaring of the sea and the waves.
26 men fainting for fear, and for expectation of the things which are coming on the world:
for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
27 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

Haile, they HATE the word...when the seal is opened you will find it much easier to share salvation with the lost. Please understand the SEVENTH trump is when the rapture takes place, Read for yourself... AT THE LAST TRUMPET the dead in Christ shall rise the we who are alive shall rise to meet the Lord in the air.
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Book of Jasher 6

And Noah and his household, and all the living creatures that were with him, came into the ark on account of the waters of the flood, and the Lord shut him in.

And all the sons of men that were left upon the earth, became exhausted through evil on account of the rain, for the waters were coming more violently upon the earth, and the animals and beasts were still surrounding the ark.

And the sons of men assembled together, about seven hundred thousand men and women, and they came unto Noah to the ark.

And they called to Noah, saying, Open for us that we may come to thee in the ark--and wherefore shall we die?

And Noah, with a loud voice, answered them from the ark, saying, Have you not all rebelled against the Lord, and said that he does not exist? and therefore the Lord brought upon you this evil, to destroy and cut you off from the face of the earth.

Is not this the thing that I spoke to you of one hundred and twenty years back, and you would not hearken to the voice of the Lord, and now do you desire to live upon earth?

And they said to Noah, We are ready to return to the Lord; only open for us that we may live and not die.


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