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FearNot (OP) User ID: 94018 United States 06/29/2006 08:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no, not my daughters Quoting: Anonymous Coward 108371You may not have a say in that matter. "Discover your divinity, find your unique talent, serve humanity with it and you can generate all the wealth you want." -Depak Chopra- [link to thefountainofhealing.com] |
FearNot (OP) User ID: 94018 United States 06/29/2006 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | bump "Discover your divinity, find your unique talent, serve humanity with it and you can generate all the wealth you want." -Depak Chopra- [link to thefountainofhealing.com] |
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FearNot (OP) User ID: 94018 United States 06/30/2006 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | bump "Discover your divinity, find your unique talent, serve humanity with it and you can generate all the wealth you want." -Depak Chopra- [link to thefountainofhealing.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4776 United States 06/30/2006 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “Cervical cancer is the second most common malignant disease in women globally, causing an estimated 290,000 deaths worldwide each year. In the United States, some 10,400 new cases will be diagnosed this year, and 3,700 women will die from the disease.” What a horrible thing to vaccinate girls to prevent getting a certain kind of cervical cancer when they grow up. Absolutely horrendous! What kind of animals are those people! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 111072 United States 06/30/2006 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing altruistic about this 4776. If it were they would not charge for the vaccine. The vaccine will be outrageously expensive. Also there would be acountablility on the part of the drug manufacturers. There is no longer any need for them to fear litigation for their malfeascance. These vaccines could be given when a woman tests positive for the papiloma virus and would be just as effective. the only difference is that the drug company would not be getting the enormous windfall. Forced vaccinations without oversight or acountability? Welcome to the fourth reich. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4776 United States 06/30/2006 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | True, 111072. Just reacted - didn't think. Forced vaccination is totally orwellian. My daughter has HPV - and I do worry that someday it will develop into cancer. That's kinda where I am coming from. But, it is a good think that something like this will be made available to her. |
111072 User ID: 111088 United States 06/30/2006 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is the implementation of the vaccine that the drug companies desire that everyone had an issue with. Considering the hype, I doubt that your daughter will have a problem getting vaccinated. They're really pushing it hard. I know that often vaccines are only effective before one becomes infected, but there are many vaccines that are effective even after infection takes place. This according to what I've seen is one of those. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. By the way, drug companies have been studying the effects of a chemical found in almonds on cancer prevention. It is recommended that everyone eat at least three raw almonds a day especially if they are at risk. This may not be something that can be refined so it may never see the drug market, which means that the industry will neve tell us of its effectiveness against cancer. Three raw (must be raw) almonds a day. It is not expensive, and they're easy to find, and almonds are legal. It's not much to purchase almonds for someone you love if it may help prevent them from getting cancer. Good luck. |
maddie User ID: 2421 United States 06/30/2006 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What next, America? What next? Quoting: FearNotNow you are fucking with human reproductive system. F*cking with the human reproductive system? By potentially saving a woman's life and her reproductive organs? Whatever. And "routine" hardly translates to "mandatory". Even now, you do not have to have your child vaccinated. You can still claim a religious conflict. It's still legal to do that. Too much negative hysteria over something that could save lives. My sister-in-law has cervical cancer. She's my age... 38. Has two young kids and is not expected to make it past September. She's already had a hysterectomy, intense chemotherapy and radiation and her quality of life is diminishing rapidly. I think she would pay the $120 to ensure her daughter didn't suffer the same fate. I sure as hell would pay it for my two daughters. It's hardly expensive when you are talking about saving a life. It's peanuts. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 111088 United States 06/30/2006 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maddie, you cannot claim religious conflict anymore. You can now be jailed for trying to prevent the innoculation of your children, and they will be taken out of your care. This is fact. There have been several trials in the US and they have all gone agains the individual and for the drug companies. Forced innoculation is not a good thing. Especially when the re is no accountability. They can introduce a drug or vaccine with horrible side effects or that kills or permanently injures someone and you can seek no financial remedy whatsoever. Does this sound charatible to you? They can force you to pay for vaccinating your children and if something should go wrong as a result, they have zero liability. You have to pay for the care of your child for the rest of his/her life if they survive. Look at autism. It is medically accepted fact now that mercury present in small children causes or presents as autism. Mercury is used in vaccines routinely for the childhood vaccinations. it is used ostensibly as a preservative and is not considered an active ingredient. Therefore it is considered safe. Even though it is known to cause or contribute to autism. Autism has increased by as much as 10,000% since the introduction of mercury into childhood vaccines. Still think that forced innoculation is safe? Yes these should be made available, but the companies that offer them should be held accountable and should be forced to pay for the healthcare for the treatment of anyone who suffers adverse effects of these treatments, up to the rest of the life of that person,in such cases as autism for example. But they won't. Is it bad that this young lady is dying of cancer? Of course. It should not be used as an excuse to introduce draconian enforcement of involuntary medical treatment at the expense of the patient and without oversight or accountability, which is what is happening. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2421 United States 06/30/2006 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maddie, you cannot claim religious conflict anymore. You can now be jailed for trying to prevent the innoculation of your children, and they will be taken out of your care. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 111088I'm sorry, but you are wrong. A parent can, by law, claim religious conflict. I know for a fact because I notarize at least half a dozen statements every August in my office for these families. In addition, my children go to school with several of them and I know the parents well. You cannot be jailed for it, nor can your kids be taken away. At least not in this State. Never even heard of such nonsense. Just out of curiousity... do you have children? |
maddie User ID: 2421 United States 06/30/2006 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Go to this page at the Center for Disease Control's site. All but 2 States allow religious beliefs as reason for not vaccinating your children. [link to www.immunizationinfo.org] |
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maddie User ID: 2421 United States 06/30/2006 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No body can make you do anything you don't want to do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 96634Exactly. And to spread misinformation that vaccines are mandatory and you'll go to jail or have your kids taken away is well, unfortunate. If a parent is dead set against it, they have options. They just need to jump off the hysteria bandwagon and do some research. And by the way... even if your not religious, claim one or make one up. I've seen people do that too. |
maddie User ID: 2421 United States 06/30/2006 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is fact. There have been several trials in the US and they have all gone agains the individual and for the drug companies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 111088Forced innoculation is not a good thing. Just going back and re-reading your post. There is no such thing as "forced innoculation" for children, therefore, I won't argue your point. Second... the trials you mention. They are after the fact... after a child has already been vaccinated. How many of these parents knew that they didn't legally have to vaccinate their kids? |
maddie User ID: 2421 United States 06/30/2006 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is recommended that everyone eat at least three raw almonds a day especially if they are at risk. This may not be something that can be refined so it may never see the drug market, which means that the industry will neve tell us of its effectiveness against cancer. Quoting: 111072 111088Three raw (must be raw) almonds a day. It is not expensive, and they're easy to find, and almonds are legal. Three raw almonds a day and my youngest would be fighting for her life. She'd go into anaphylactic shock. I wouldn't make a general rule of thumb. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 111107 United States 06/30/2006 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ATTENTION. ATTENTION. ALL SLUTS MUST REPORT TO THE CLINIC AT ONCE. I REPEAT - ALL SLUTS PLEASE REPORT TO THE CLINIC AT ONCE FOR A MANDATORY INJECTION. DO NOT - I REPEAT - DO NOT RECIEVE FURTHER INJECTIONS UNTIL YOU HAVE RECEIVED YOUR INJECTION FROM THE CLINIC. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1373 United States 06/30/2006 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or you could not get her vaccinated, and later on she could get cervical cancer. So which is the bigger risk? The possibility of side effects, or the possibility of cancer? Are you going to personally collect data to decide? Are you going to let somebody decide for you? If so, who, and why should you trust them? These are hard questions to answer, and no doubt a lot of people are going to make no decision at all. Someday perhaps they, or their daughters, will regret that inaction. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5854 United States 06/30/2006 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Three raw almonds a day and my youngest would be fighting for her life. She'd go into anaphylactic shock. Quoting: maddie 2421I wouldn't make a general rule of thumb. Nice catch. There are countless people with severe allergeries to almonds, peanuts, etc. Now that could kill someone. We have no proof that this vaccine would do the same, but we have millions of death proving cervical cancer will. Interesting. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 107796 United States 06/30/2006 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes isn't this supposed to be for the HPV virus? Which causes the cancer... Just don't be a slut. Good ole fashioned vaccine for that shit. I mean they make it sound like all women are going to get cervical cancer eventually. What could even cause this if it was even true. I salute you. |
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9net User ID: 111174 Israel 07/01/2006 05:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gardasil, manufactured by Merck & Co. [link to en.wikipedia.org] On 2005-08-19, Merck was found liable in the death of a man who took Vioxx. The plaintiff was awarded $253.4 million in damages, which were subsequently reduced to $20 million, the maximum allowed by Texas statute. In a followup case in New Jersey, Merck was found not liable. A third case is pending in Louisiana. Merck's stock fell $2.35 to $28.06/share (7.73%) in the minutes after the verdict was announced and three months later 7,000 Merck employees were laid off. At the time of the verdict, there were over 4,000 other lawsuits pending against Merck regarding Vioxx, and several thousand against Pfizer, the maker of competing anti-inflammatory drug Bextra, which, in some cases, causes an adverse skin reaction which burns patients "from the inside out." |