BREAKING - Oil Flow is 6.8-38.1 million gal/day - MSM NOW REPORTS FIGURES CLOSER TO THIS AS WELL | |
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Baffled King User ID: 429648 United States 05/11/2010 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - Oil Flow is 6.8-38.1 million gal/day - MSM NOW REPORTS FIGURES CLOSER TO THIS AS WELL Did you read the PDF? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9626982,854 million barrels over 30 proved and 10 unproved fields = 71.35 million barrels per field average. BP spokesman: "tens of millions of barrels" in reserves. You: 11.4 million barrels a day I'm at a loss. YOU show me the math. YOU: 21 - 110 million gallons an hour or 11.4 - 62 million barrels a day Oil reserves: 2,854 million barrels over 30 proved and 10 unproved fields = 71.35 million barrels per field average. BP spokesman: "tens of millions of barrels" in reserves. It's been leaking for over 20 days. How do you get 200 -1240 million gallons of oil out of a "tens of millions of barrels" field? I would say you're debunked. I don't think so. This particular well has been spoken of several times even in major media sources as between 4-6 BILLION barrels of oil. Gigantic. Largest oil bubble ever drilled. |
doomster User ID: 959903 United States 05/11/2010 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - Oil Flow is 6.8-38.1 million gal/day - MSM NOW REPORTS FIGURES CLOSER TO THIS AS WELL It all depends on the final pressures in the oil reserve. BP said they are anywhere from 15,000 psi to 70,000 psi. Quoting: Ratla 961537That is a very wide gap in the potential pressure. Doesnt BP know how much pressure theyre dealing with? Wouldnt that have been measured before the mishap? Either way, thats on the order of maximum instantaneous pressure inside a firearm chamber during firing, just to give some perspective. The low end would be around that of a 45 acp and the high end would be that of the highest pressure rifle cartridges. UNREAL! Thats why a weak metal box just aint gonna cut the mustard unless its made of enormous strength. fascinating analogies there... so if this gusher were on land it would be shooting several miles into the air ?? |
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suvalley User ID: 967519 United States 05/11/2010 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - Oil Flow is 6.8-38.1 million gal/day - MSM NOW REPORTS FIGURES CLOSER TO THIS AS WELL Readers might try reading here, to get an overview of the spill, along with relevant details about that particular well head: [link to www.theoildrum.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 967250 Canada 05/11/2010 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - Oil Flow is 6.8-38.1 million gal/day - MSM NOW REPORTS FIGURES CLOSER TO THIS AS WELL OP, at the rate you calculate and with the oil deposit allegedly containing 11 billion barrels, wouldnt it have expelled all its oil by now if it started on 4/20? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 879794If it were possible for the entire reservoir to empty (which it isn't), it would still take over 300 days at the lower 4 Billion estimate. 11 Billion barrels would take over 2yrs. |
Werd User ID: 873894 United States 05/11/2010 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - Oil Flow is 6.8-38.1 million gal/day - MSM NOW REPORTS FIGURES CLOSER TO THIS AS WELL thats over 1mil barrels a day! never has a well produced so much - BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 967093I don't know where I fall on the math of this, I mean the math is sound, I just don't believe the variables to be accurate. With that being said: A controlled pressure flow oil rig does not produce an outflow level of oil like that of an uncontrolled release as we are seeing on the seabed. So to say that a controlled platform is supposed to produce the same amount of oil as a wildly raging puncture vent is a ridiculuous statement. An oil rig could not keep up with that level of production, which is why they control the output pressures to a safe level, thereby reducing the outflow per day (by barrel.) Go back to school, or, better yet, start using the logical side of yer brain more often, because it's seriously lacking. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 299817 United States 05/11/2010 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - Oil Flow is 6.8-38.1 million gal/day - MSM NOW REPORTS FIGURES CLOSER TO THIS AS WELL WHAT A JOKE INSTEAD OF BAILING,out these companies, go completely GREEN, and all these people that would lose their livelyhood, they'd work at goin green, instead of militaries, go organic, crop's human being's are backward's at everything they do, ruining GOD'S planet, no respect for anything, human's are worthless, your so-called leader's are piece's of shit, can't control your emotion's |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 962698 Australia 05/11/2010 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - Oil Flow is 6.8-38.1 million gal/day - MSM NOW REPORTS FIGURES CLOSER TO THIS AS WELL This particular well has been spoken of several times even in major media sources as between 4-6 BILLION barrels of oil. Gigantic. Largest oil bubble ever drilled. Quoting: Baffled KingThat's the Tiber oil field, which the rig drilled in 2009. This is a different one. It's only been in the news for three weeks. |
Baffled King User ID: 429648 United States 05/11/2010 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - Oil Flow is 6.8-38.1 million gal/day - MSM NOW REPORTS FIGURES CLOSER TO THIS AS WELL There is something that I find curious about all this. You've indicated that it would still take a year before all the oil had finally spent itself. So, now you have a gigantic hole that has filled itself with sea water I suppose...? the Earth's plates 'ride' on that oil. If they could ride and slide as well on sea water, I suspect that sea water would have been the substance instead of oil. We talk a lot about the New Madrid. This huge pot of oil is right on or near the New Madrid faultline as I understand it, but even if it weren't, it is still close enough. What happens when the Earth's plates can no longer slide well enough when Earthquakes strike here and there about the Earth? No jostling room. What greedy Corporations have done to the Earth is just unthinkable... The sadness all this brings to me...it really is over this time... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 771327 United States 05/11/2010 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - Oil Flow is 6.8-38.1 million gal/day - MSM NOW REPORTS FIGURES CLOSER TO THIS AS WELL 15,115,870 TONNES PER DAY [link to www.convertunits.com] Are you freaking kidding me. Im sorry your calculations must be wrong, what is going on. On that URL the conversion calculator states that 480million gal =15million tonnes. That would make it 31 times the size of IXTOC 1, on the first day of the spill alone. Can somebody prove me wrong here.. WTF BTW if calculations are correct the deep water horizon spill would be at approx 225 MILLION TONNES right now. Dwarfing anything in the past. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 913496 United States 05/11/2010 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - Oil Flow is 6.8-38.1 million gal/day - MSM NOW REPORTS FIGURES CLOSER TO THIS AS WELL If as reported (in threads about the leaking methane) the flow is largely methane gas and crystals, with only a relatively small proportion of oil, then things could add up. The total flow is methane + oil. Most of it's methane. The rho to use, I suppose, would be somewhere between the values for methane and oil. The total amount of oil coming out is less than if there were no methane sharing the pipe, so the all-oil calculation is an upper bound. I do believe they cannot stop it, but sure hope I'm wrong. |
~fish out of water~ User ID: 966030 United States 05/11/2010 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - Oil Flow is 6.8-38.1 million gal/day - MSM NOW REPORTS FIGURES CLOSER TO THIS AS WELL Here you go. These are the estimatefrom the Minerals Management Service from 2005 re: the size of the reserve. Page 8, Mississippi Canyon 3,528 million barrels of oil (at 60 degrees F) 8,956 billion cubic feet of gas (at 60 derees F and 15.025 psia) Page 16: [link to www.gomr.mms.gov] From my thread: Thread: 8,956 BILLION CUIC FEET OF GAS etimated to be in Mississippi Canyon Block 252!!!!!!!!!!!! |
KLB- User ID: 928489 Canada 05/11/2010 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - Oil Flow is 6.8-38.1 million gal/day - MSM NOW REPORTS FIGURES CLOSER TO THIS AS WELL I'm not gonna say you don't know what you're talking about, but that doesn't sound right. Quoting: dereisticYour avatard tells me you're not right. 20 million gallons an hour sounds very high. That's 240 million gallons a day spewing into the Gulf. Try doubling that!... Start over, and this time, don't forget YOUR helmet!! |
Baffled King User ID: 429648 United States 05/11/2010 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - Oil Flow is 6.8-38.1 million gal/day - MSM NOW REPORTS FIGURES CLOSER TO THIS AS WELL This particular well has been spoken of several times even in major media sources as between 4-6 BILLION barrels of oil. Gigantic. Largest oil bubble ever drilled. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 962698That's the Tiber oil field, which the rig drilled in 2009. This is a different one. It's only been in the news for three weeks. No. This is the Mississippi Canyon, is it not? In this gov report from 2005, it says that it holds 3.5 Billion barrels. [link to www.gomr.mms.gov] News reports put it at 4-6 billion. |
Hiram User ID: 935988 United States 05/11/2010 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - Oil Flow is 6.8-38.1 million gal/day - MSM NOW REPORTS FIGURES CLOSER TO THIS AS WELL I'm sorry. This seems wrong to me. Think about the size of the pipe for one moment. Think about the diameter!! Even if the pipe were as big around as a car... Niagara Falls flows at ~37 million gallons a MINUTE. Your talking ALOT of oil coming from a very small pipe. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 879868 United States 05/11/2010 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - Oil Flow is 6.8-38.1 million gal/day - MSM NOW REPORTS FIGURES CLOSER TO THIS AS WELL I'm sorry. Quoting: Hiram 935988This seems wrong to me. Think about the size of the pipe for one moment. Think about the diameter!! Even if the pipe were as big around as a car... Niagara Falls flows at ~37 million gallons a MINUTE. Your talking ALOT of oil coming from a very small pipe. Hiram, please take into consideration the PSI. |
SHR Forum Administrator 05/11/2010 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - Oil Flow is 6.8-38.1 million gal/day - MSM NOW REPORTS FIGURES CLOSER TO THIS AS WELL I hate to say it but I trust my calculations. Quoting: ºCRAPºDamn greedy bastards can't even tell us the truth. However, these figures are IF there is no blockage beyond the well in the ground. But lets say 10% is leaking from obstruction. That still leaves 2-11 million gal/hr! This stuff is flying out of the well at least 8 m/s! 10 million plus barrels a day???....nah....you have to remember...the pipe is bent over...looks like you used an intact pipe to calculate?....but however...I suppose it is possible we "could" get to this flow...is the whole thing blows apart and goes WFO... ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 913496 United States 05/11/2010 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - Oil Flow is 6.8-38.1 million gal/day - MSM NOW REPORTS FIGURES CLOSER TO THIS AS WELL If as reported (in threads about the leaking methane) the flow is largely methane gas and crystals, with only a relatively small proportion of oil, then things could add up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 913496The total flow is methane + oil. Most of it's methane. The rho to use, I suppose, would be somewhere between the values for methane and oil. The total amount of oil coming out is less than if there were no methane sharing the pipe, so the all-oil calculation is an upper bound. I do believe they cannot stop it, but sure hope I'm wrong. For thinking about this, as long as the flow is not turbulent (and it would not be turbulent coming up a smooth pipe of several miles length) the thing to focus on is volume not mass. So if methane gas is 30% of the mass and 98% of the volume of what's in the pipe, use the 98% not the 30% as an indicator of what's going on. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 913496 United States 05/11/2010 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - Oil Flow is 6.8-38.1 million gal/day - MSM NOW REPORTS FIGURES CLOSER TO THIS AS WELL Are these flow rate calculation results taking the pressure of 5000 feet of water on top of the leak into consideration? Quoting: KLB- 928489That doesn't really matter. If ambient pressure from the water at the top is 2000 psi and the gusher pressure is 40,000 psi, the difference is 38,000psi, not significantly different from 40,000. |