Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine

a couple of Q & As from Zeta Talk, May 2010
these stood out in relation to this thread....


Of all the people I have been reading over say...the last year. You stood out the most and compel me to take notice, I had a strong feeling that you would “bite” on what I posted yesterday because you have a good “sense of smell” , to not put too fine a point on it. A little behind you was some person named “Breezy”, I also see something in that person as well.
I can see it, the Dutch are not just around and where they are just because of luck, and it was no coincidence why America’s first corporation and still the controlling corporation (I might add) in the US was the DUTCH East India Trading Company. If you can find a bonefide copy of the “Round Robin” charter signed by the charter members, that actually shows the characters and symbols next to people’s names you might find some interesting things there that may shed some light also. Your people have a little more MOJO than just a bunch of big beautiful Vikings who clobbered the French so much that the French King gave them land if they just stopped whipping his butt and taking his women.
I don’t know what ID or poster info shows up on me, if I can remember to do it I will put “sumdumguy” as my poster identification in the future so I can stand behind what I post as it is important. I hate to see so many wonderfully intelligent and astute people chasing Red Herrings, It is great to see so many of these “types” seeking to be brought from darkness to light. Many I see seem like to pace around in the dark almost as if they enjoy it. 

what was that other ship that went to cuba when cm was parked there?

do any remember?

what was that other ship that went to cuba when cm was parked there?

do any remember?

If you are interested in the quantum level of computing, heres another link related to the one above but appears outdo it?

[link to news.oneindia.in]


Thanks, JustAC. I'm basically a techno-idiot, but still curious about all things quantum. My mind was wondering about the existence of any potential dots between the quantum nature of STUXNET and the emerging quantum computer breakthroughs. Will the quantum computers be vulnerable to infection? Was STUXNET a test run of quantum computing capabilities interfacing with current computing models? Like that.



I wonder whether people may be viewing the term 'quantum' differently. I don't know how this 'virus' is supposed to effect a system when there is no physical connection. Another thing that concerns me is how a country that may have developed and released the stuxnet will explain the fact that they dont get contaminated or experience the problems that the targets experience.

Meanwhile, heres a possible breakthrough in the understanding of black holes.

[link to www.economist.com]


I believe it was mentioned earlier that the interface could be through the power supply. So, what's the trigger to initiate the action? Specific beamed frequency directed at the target? Whoever possesses the trigger isn't going to be inclined to shoot themselves, don't ya think?

Tutu, my point exactly regarding who may pull the trigger. The shooter (sniper...? LMAO here we go?) would have some explaining to do when they are the only people not affected. I reckon the virus signature would be detectable if it inhabited the power lines and i'm guessing that would be the first place they would look.

Thanks - "they" might have to explain, but the damage would be done, amirite?
And, we all know that "they" have developed the lie into an art form.

If you are interested in the quantum level of computing, heres another link related to the one above but appears outdo it?

[link to news.oneindia.in]


Thanks, JustAC. I'm basically a techno-idiot, but still curious about all things quantum. My mind was wondering about the existence of any potential dots between the quantum nature of STUXNET and the emerging quantum computer breakthroughs. Will the quantum computers be vulnerable to infection? Was STUXNET a test run of quantum computing capabilities interfacing with current computing models? Like that.



I wonder whether people may be viewing the term 'quantum' differently. I don't know how this 'virus' is supposed to effect a system when there is no physical connection. Another thing that concerns me is how a country that may have developed and released the stuxnet will explain the fact that they dont get contaminated or experience the problems that the targets experience.

Meanwhile, heres a possible breakthrough in the understanding of black holes.

[link to www.economist.com]


I believe it was mentioned earlier that the interface could be through the power supply. So, what's the trigger to initiate the action? Specific beamed frequency directed at the target? Whoever possesses the trigger isn't going to be inclined to shoot themselves, don't ya think?


Maybe, maybe not. Can't help but think of 9 11... depends on what end they are trying to make happen.

thnx guys

just sounded like a re-supply maneuver

maybe the frost took new capsules for the CM?

where would the CM be now at full speed if i left cuba when op reported?
going back in the direction of the gulf

OH, and A Whale was in port in Singapore I know I mentioned that to someone...saw it on Marine traffic or sailwx site

thnx guys

just sounded like a re-supply maneuver

maybe the frost took new capsules for the CM?

where would the CM be now at full speed if i left cuba when op reported?
going back in the direction of the gulf

Oh, about Denver.

If you are interested in the quantum level of computing, heres another link related to the one above but appears outdo it?

[link to news.oneindia.in]


Thanks, JustAC. I'm basically a techno-idiot, but still curious about all things quantum. My mind was wondering about the existence of any potential dots between the quantum nature of STUXNET and the emerging quantum computer breakthroughs. Will the quantum computers be vulnerable to infection? Was STUXNET a test run of quantum computing capabilities interfacing with current computing models? Like that.



I wonder whether people may be viewing the term 'quantum' differently. I don't know how this 'virus' is supposed to effect a system when there is no physical connection. Another thing that concerns me is how a country that may have developed and released the stuxnet will explain the fact that they dont get contaminated or experience the problems that the targets experience.

Meanwhile, heres a possible breakthrough in the understanding of black holes.

[link to www.economist.com]


I believe it was mentioned earlier that the interface could be through the power supply. So, what's the trigger to initiate the action? Specific beamed frequency directed at the target? Whoever possesses the trigger isn't going to be inclined to shoot themselves, don't ya think?


Maybe, maybe not. Can't help but think of 9 11... depends on what end they are trying to make happen.


Aha! good point! Then, there is always the backfire potential, amirite?
edit to add> This paradigm shift seems to be moving along at a rapid clip.

From another popular GLP thread.......





Huge cosmic gamma ray bursts seems to be responsible for extensive mortality of fish, cattle, penguins, "carpinchos" and other animals in nearly all America and Western Europe in August.

In my region [Argentina] nearly five tons of fish, mostly "catfish" (bagre) and two other species whose english name I don't know.

Also many penguins in the south and "carpinchos" (a kind of armadillos) from the northeast.

Local biologists have made DNA studies and found evident alterations due to gamma rays and other cosmic radiation.

The investigation has connected many similar reports from Lousiana (USA), Uruguay, Bolivia, Paraguay, Brasil, Spain, Portugal and Chile. Nearly 2000 cows have died in Paraguay, penguins in Argentina and Brasil, turtles in Bolivia.

Only in Bolivia it was reported nearly 8 million fish dead.

Researchers have connected the event to a big cosmic explosion informed by NASA scientists, they believe it was caused by a big star explosion ocurred on June 21.

As I said it seems some major cosmic event is underway.

----next post-----

Yes, and there was a report on GLP a couple of days ago about thousands of 'sand dollars' being washed up on the beach west of SFO's Golden Gate bridge ... most unusual...

[link to www.flickr.com]


----next post----

According to the information in the ebook from Pane Andov that you linked for us the other day and which I have just read, increasing cosmic rays are the hallmark or the vanguard of the cosmic shift that will take place in the 2012-13 frame.

Also it should be noted here that there has suddenly been a massive output of UFO/Alien "disclosure" info. flying around in the Western world.

Here in the US, MSM networks are being flooded with obviously planted material and to such an extent that the network anchors and TV journalists are caught flat-footed.

It is clear that they are supposed to go along with the script and be open to the idea.. suddenly.. of aliens in our midst. But many of them are still functioning under the old program and so they downplay the onrushing stream of proscribed dogma that is coming in from the new pro-alien script.

Some of the scientists that are being called in to comment are also not being well-enough informed by the PTB ahead of their appearances, such as Michio Kaku, for one example.

Two days ago, he appeared on a network news features program to talk about the new UN ET relations ambassador and said something like this:

"Within six months to a year, they will announce that they have found a twin planet to the Earth and which is capable of supporting life..."

But it wasn't six months to a year later, it was the very next day that this announcement was made (yesterday) and then this too was spread all around the MSM with great fanfare. One of the scientists involved made the statement that in his opinion, it was a 100% certainty that this planet had life on it.

From all of this, it is very evident that the PTB are in panic mode with regard to the revelation of ET life. But their problem is that they worked so long and hard to suppress all of that for so very long that they now are caught up in a very compromising position.

Something is up, you can be sure of that.

From another popular GLP thread.......
Quoting : Ahim-sa




Huge cosmic gamma ray bursts seems to be responsible for extensive mortality of fish, cattle, penguins, "carpinchos" and other animals in nearly all America and Western Europe in August.

In my region [Argentina] nearly five tons of fish, mostly "catfish" (bagre) and two other species whose english name I don't know.

Also many penguins in the south and "carpinchos" (a kind of armadillos) from the northeast.

Local biologists have made DNA studies and found evident alterations due to gamma rays and other cosmic radiation.

The investigation has connected many similar reports from Lousiana (USA), Uruguay, Bolivia, Paraguay, Brasil, Spain, Portugal and Chile. Nearly 2000 cows have died in Paraguay, penguins in Argentina and Brasil, turtles in Bolivia.

Only in Bolivia it was reported nearly 8 million fish dead.

Researchers have connected the event to a big cosmic explosion informed by NASA scientists, they believe it was caused by a big star explosion ocurred on June 21.

As I said it seems some major cosmic event is underway.

----next post-----

Yes, and there was a report on GLP a couple of days ago about thousands of 'sand dollars' being washed up on the beach west of SFO's Golden Gate bridge ... most unusual...

[link to www.flickr.com]


----next post----

According to the information in the ebook from Pane Andov that you linked for us the other day and which I have just read, increasing cosmic rays are the hallmark or the vanguard of the cosmic shift that will take place in the 2012-13 frame.

Also it should be noted here that there has suddenly been a massive output of UFO/Alien "disclosure" info. flying around in the Western world.

Here in the US, MSM networks are being flooded with obviously planted material and to such an extent that the network anchors and TV journalists are caught flat-footed.

It is clear that they are supposed to go along with the script and be open to the idea.. suddenly.. of aliens in our midst. But many of them are still functioning under the old program and so they downplay the onrushing stream of proscribed dogma that is coming in from the new pro-alien script.

Some of the scientists that are being called in to comment are also not being well-enough informed by the PTB ahead of their appearances, such as Michio Kaku, for one example.

Two days ago, he appeared on a network news features program to talk about the new UN ET relations ambassador and said something like this:

"Within six months to a year, they will announce that they have found a twin planet to the Earth and which is capable of supporting life..."

But it wasn't six months to a year later, it was the very next day that this announcement was made (yesterday) and then this too was spread all around the MSM with great fanfare. One of the scientists involved made the statement that in his opinion, it was a 100% certainty that this planet had life on it.

From all of this, it is very evident that the PTB are in panic mode with regard to the revelation of ET life. But their problem is that they worked so long and hard to suppress all of that for so very long that they now are caught up in a very compromising position.

Something is up, you can be sure of that.
Quoting : Anonymous Coward 937801

Pag 733 9/30/2010 9:57 AM


Just found this in dutch news,
I will look for the same story in english ..
but some things in that text realy cauth my attention :

Bewoonbare planeet ontdekt? [link to nieuws.nl.msn.com]

-snip dutch words-


Translation :
Habitable planet discovered ?
- Today there is a planet discovered that could be habitable. Is there a second Earth?
- One of the researchers says that in any case the probability of life on Gliese 581g is '100 percent'.
- Gliese 581g is particularly noteworthy because it is clearly in the 'Goldilocks zone' : not too close to the star, not too far, not too hot, not too cold but just right.
- Statistically, we would, moreover, about to discover a new earth in May 2011.



An english source
Is this the new Earth? Astronomers discover planet just 20 light years away with similar atmosphere and gravity which has '100% chance of life' - and may contain water
(with images and illustrations and a VID)

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

'If these are rare, we shouldn't have found one so quickly and so nearby,' Dr Steven Vogt who led the study at the University of California, Santa Cruz.
'The number of systems with potentially habitable planets is probably on the order of 10 or 20 per cent, and when you multiply that by the hundreds of billions of stars in the Milky Way, that's a large number. There could be tens of billions of these systems in our galaxy.'
He told Discovery News: 'Personally, given the ubiquity and propensity of life to flourish wherever it can, I would say that the chances for life on this planet are 100 percent. I have almost no doubt about it'.

It takes just 37 days to orbit its sun which means its seasons last for just a few days. One side of the planet always faces its star and basks in perpetual daylight, while the other is in perpetual darkness.

(>> just like our moon ... and there seeeeems to be life at the dark-cold side of the moon too ...)

The most suitable place for life or future human colonists would be in the 'grey' zone - the band between darkness and light that circles the planet.

(>> okay GREY-zone doesnt seem to sound so comfortable ... it links to The Grey's in my mind ...)

'Any emerging life forms would have a wide range of stable climates to choose from and to evolve around, depending on their longitude,' said Dr Vogt who reports the find in the Astrophysical Journal.
If Gliese 581g has a rocky composition similar to the Earth's, its diameter would be about 1.2 to 1.4 times that of the Earth. It's gravity is likely to be similar - allowing a human astronaut to walk on the surface upright without difficulty.
'This planet doesn't have days and nights. Wherever you are on this planet, the sun is in the same position all the time. You have very stable zones where the ecosystem stays the same temperature... basically forever,' Vogt said.






Somehow this discovery adds up in the line of the testimonies from those pilots a few days ago !!!
Total disclosure seems only a footstep away ...

Just sayin'.

1221, the reason I said earlier that I wondered if some people were confused about what exactly the 'quantum' in computing referred to is because the research is geared towards increasing the speed of operation. The chip designers can forsee a time, in the not too distant future, where they can't reduce the operating speeds any more (due to the ability to reduce the physical spacing/distances/information pathways/switches) so the search is on for a replacement.

A replacement money cow!

[link to www.box.net]

AC 861, would like your thoughts. In the uvb/sixteen days thread, the OP

suggests that the real (ultimate) goal of stuxnet is to interfere with the

cooling system at the LHC. With your comments on the black holes, I

thought you might have an opinion. I'm thinking that a "functional"

LHC would be bad. But what about a compromised one?



I think the fact that people believe the LHC exists is funny. The search for the god particle, solve the question of what is gravity....All cover all misdirection. We have know what gravity is for many years and we now how to produce a gravitational effect. Just like many other things but it is more advantageous to keep close to your check let it out a little at a time, you control more that way.

Granted we didn't figure it out, way beyond US at this time. We were lead by the hand of the same one who run things now....Think about it, if you believe the death bed confession of the Skunks work CEO then how could we not know these things already. Why would he lie? I have been to Nellis and worked with someone who flew out in the middle of the desert for a week at a time since he had a wife and kids, they let you come back on weekends.

Also have you notice how We never fielded the F22 raptor,spent millions then said well we have something already better, killed F117, I heard something about NASA having a new mission, cancelling the spaceshuttle, were is the REAL replacements for these things. Military Industrial complex keeps people working and driving economic force, but not everyone can work on TOP SECRET projects need some visable results too.

I think we are going to move forward or should say, we will realize the extent of what we really know sooner than most expect, but that is just a guess.

LHC is accomplishing something else entirely..Much more complicated deceptions have been and are continually being ran so it should be no shocker or surprise. If it really is what they say, then I guess you know why they said "NO" not in the US we won't fund it and build it here. I guess they already have all the front projects they needed, we'll stick in Europe, have a lot of highly Overeducated people that are underutilized need to focus that "brainpower" somewhere,otherwise it is a waste really. Reality is a strange thing these days fixing to get much much more interresting. What is the saying, "true wisdom is realizing how much you really don't know!"

thnx guys

just sounded like a re-supply maneuver

maybe the frost took new capsules for the CM?

where would the CM be now at full speed if i left cuba when op reported?
going back in the direction of the gulf

Oh, about Denver.

hi hans

i think the correct answer would be around 1750miles at 12knots

Didn't they try to build one of those outside Dallas in the 80's...and something stopped the project cold...I seem to recall hearing about it..

AC 861, would like your thoughts. In the uvb/sixteen days thread, the OP

suggests that the real (ultimate) goal of stuxnet is to interfere with the

cooling system at the LHC. With your comments on the black holes, I

thought you might have an opinion. I'm thinking that a "functional"

LHC would be bad. But what about a compromised one?



LHC is accomplishing something else entirely..Much more complicated deceptions have been and are continually being ran so it should be no shocker or surprise. If it really is what they say, then I guess you know why they said "NO" not in the US we won't fund it and build it here. I guess they already have all the front projects they needed, we'll stick in Europe, have a lot of highly Overeducated people that are underutilized need to focus that "brainpower" somewhere,otherwise it is a waste really. Reality is a strange thing these days fixing to get much much more interresting. What is the saying, "true wisdom is realizing how much you really don't know!"