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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1021626 United States 07/09/2010 04:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: RIOTING HAS BEGUN IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA - FIRES BEING SET IN THE STREETS - BANK NOW BEING LOOTED!@@ - EXPLOSIONS HEARD! The verdict is just another excuse for them to steal sh*t. Quoting: OilAwakeningAnd of course everyone will talk about the looting and forget the main reason of these protests. Its done here in 2009, remember? They are going to use it more in the future. Also done by Israel. It's the strategy. This has nothing to do with Israel, we'll give you another spin though. TRY AGAIN Nothing to do with Israel? The method of allowing policing get away with murder -- it's called analogy. |
OilAwakening User ID: 1008736 United States 07/09/2010 04:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: RIOTING HAS BEGUN IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA - FIRES BEING SET IN THE STREETS - BANK NOW BEING LOOTED!@@ - EXPLOSIONS HEARD! This was involuntary manslaughter? Quoting: Ostria-vid- Yes. He thought he had pulled his Taser and he had his pistol instead. Thats what it looks like to me based not only on the video but on other facts presented, and thats what the jury decided as well. Good. Remember this next time a cop is going to pull his taser against you. He may mistakenly pull his gun. They pull their tasers out for fun here. It's not even considered a spitting on the sidewalk violation. Be careful what you wish for, because it may become you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 992777 United States 07/09/2010 04:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: RIOTING HAS BEGUN IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA - FIRES BEING SET IN THE STREETS - BANK NOW BEING LOOTED!@@ - EXPLOSIONS HEARD! Yea, he actually does act like he was surprised to have shot the guy. He might have really thought he had his tazer out. I think you can even see him put his hands on his head as if he's thinking "Oh my God, what did I do?" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1021626 United States 07/09/2010 04:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: RIOTING HAS BEGUN IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA - FIRES BEING SET IN THE STREETS - BANK NOW BEING LOOTED!@@ - EXPLOSIONS HEARD! This was involuntary manslaughter? Quoting: Ratla 1002081-vid- Yes. He thought he had pulled his Taser and he had his pistol instead. Thats what it looks like to me based not only on the video but on other facts presented, and thats what the jury decided as well. If he only meant to do that, wouldn't his REACTION be differently asshat? Clearly he fucking knew what he was doing. And there was no fucking reason for a taser, shitface. |
Truthseekr User ID: 928852 United States 07/09/2010 04:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: RIOTING HAS BEGUN IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA - FIRES BEING SET IN THE STREETS - BANK NOW BEING LOOTED!@@ - EXPLOSIONS HEARD! This was involuntary manslaughter? Quoting: Ratla 1002081-vid- Yes. He thought he had pulled his Taser and he had his pistol instead. Thats what it looks like to me based not only on the video but on other facts presented, and thats what the jury decided as well. your telling me a trained police officer cant tell the difference between a gun and a taser??? COMON!!! he shouldnt be a fucking PIG then.... kill all them crooked ass cops!!! they are a gang- like any other gang- they protect only gang leaders aka WEALTHY n RICH |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1030031 United States 07/09/2010 05:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: RIOTING HAS BEGUN IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA - FIRES BEING SET IN THE STREETS - BANK NOW BEING LOOTED!@@ - EXPLOSIONS HEARD! |
Truthseekr User ID: 928852 United States 07/09/2010 05:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: RIOTING HAS BEGUN IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA - FIRES BEING SET IN THE STREETS - BANK NOW BEING LOOTED!@@ - EXPLOSIONS HEARD! Yea, he actually does act like he was surprised to have shot the guy. He might have really thought he had his tazer out. I think you can even see him put his hands on his head as if he's thinking "Oh my God, what did I do?" Quoting: BigBallano. he knew it was his GUN idiot. he got shooken up when he ended his life though. kill that fuckin pig |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 992777 United States 07/09/2010 05:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: RIOTING HAS BEGUN IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA - FIRES BEING SET IN THE STREETS - BANK NOW BEING LOOTED!@@ - EXPLOSIONS HEARD! you guys really want black people to fuck up so you can point a finger and say "there, look, proof, my generalized hate is justified" but they didn't, they didn't make themselves look the way you want them to, and you're probably disappointed. pathetic fucks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1030031Actually, they did though. They lit fires and looted stores. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 992777 United States 07/09/2010 05:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: RIOTING HAS BEGUN IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA - FIRES BEING SET IN THE STREETS - BANK NOW BEING LOOTED!@@ - EXPLOSIONS HEARD! Yea, he actually does act like he was surprised to have shot the guy. He might have really thought he had his tazer out. I think you can even see him put his hands on his head as if he's thinking "Oh my God, what did I do?" Quoting: Truthseekrno. he knew it was his GUN idiot. he got shooken up when he ended his life though. kill that fuckin pig He didn't act like he knew it was his gun to me, it's pretty obvious. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 850931 United States 07/09/2010 05:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: RIOTING HAS BEGUN IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA - FIRES BEING SET IN THE STREETS - BANK NOW BEING LOOTED!@@ - EXPLOSIONS HEARD! This was involuntary manslaughter? Quoting: OstriaFuck man That kid was executed(with the handcufts on his hand tied on his back). The color of his skin has nothing to do with the clear fakt: is a murder. The family of the victim should have the right to decide what to do with them cops. Not only one , but all of them involved in this crime. |
OilAwakening User ID: 1008736 United States 07/09/2010 05:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: RIOTING HAS BEGUN IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA - FIRES BEING SET IN THE STREETS - BANK NOW BEING LOOTED!@@ - EXPLOSIONS HEARD! The verdict is just another excuse for them to steal sh*t. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1021626And of course everyone will talk about the looting and forget the main reason of these protests. Its done here in 2009, remember? They are going to use it more in the future. Also done by Israel. It's the strategy. This has nothing to do with Israel, we'll give you another spin though. TRY AGAIN Nothing to do with Israel? The method of allowing policing get away with murder -- it's called analogy. Okay! Jeez. If you want to make it an anology, I can understand that, but at least give a clue to your meaning. This IS NOT "Also done by Israel". This has no relevance to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. And I'm NOT an Israeli apologist. I am disgusted by Israel's treatment of Palestinians, but for truths sake, make an accurate correlation!!! Police all over the world are allowed to murder. What makes this so much more relevant to Israel? And again, I'm a big critic of Israel, but if we are going to talk shit, we'd better know what we are talking about no? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1029888 United States 07/09/2010 05:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: RIOTING HAS BEGUN IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA - FIRES BEING SET IN THE STREETS - BANK NOW BEING LOOTED!@@ - EXPLOSIONS HEARD! i don't know how a person can confuse a gun for a taser...i'm baffled as to how a cop can't tell the difference...either he is mentally deficient or knew exactly what he was doing...if it was involuntary because he has low brain function, they should have let us know |
Truthseekr User ID: 928852 United States 07/09/2010 05:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: RIOTING HAS BEGUN IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA - FIRES BEING SET IN THE STREETS - BANK NOW BEING LOOTED!@@ - EXPLOSIONS HEARD! Yea, he actually does act like he was surprised to have shot the guy. He might have really thought he had his tazer out. I think you can even see him put his hands on his head as if he's thinking "Oh my God, what did I do?" Quoting: BigBallano. he knew it was his GUN idiot. he got shooken up when he ended his life though. kill that fuckin pig He didn't act like he knew it was his gun to me, it's pretty obvious. how do you mistake a Pistol-Trigger, AND SAFETY!!! (cops have safety on always) for a TASER??? HOW does that happen? explain it??? FUCK that crooked cop n all crooked cops alike. killemall! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1023648 Mexico 07/09/2010 05:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: RIOTING HAS BEGUN IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA - FIRES BEING SET IN THE STREETS - BANK NOW BEING LOOTED!@@ - EXPLOSIONS HEARD! In my words?!? wow, pressure... Quoting: OilAwakeningI would say the world is covered in gasoline,... and all it needs is a match... and when the fire burns out, the field is ready to be planted with peace, freedom, and abundance... it's a theory or philosophy, that it just takes a spark, to burn all the shit up. And when it's over, the fields will be fertile... Oh, I need to sleep. :) Oh well, for the time I must take the easy way out, maybe another time we can talk in more depth., this is a good start though... [link to en.wikipedia.org] Hmmm. I refer to your words, I dont have the patience to read wiki. Right now. You do understand power and activism from the bottom up, dont you? Bad govt, corruption, impunity, from the top down? Listening and empowering ourselves,,,, meaning and esp for activists, to derive their understanding and their concienscness from the struggle of those who are struggling. From the bottom up, from those that are oppressed and hurting, to where it can be resolved. For all of us, including you. I dont know. I have my own selfish desires, which is very significant, and I align my desires to those of the majority. Otherwise I have no interest with the majority, and therefore, I have no commitment in being an activist for their interest... |
Truthseekr User ID: 928852 United States 07/09/2010 05:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: RIOTING HAS BEGUN IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA - FIRES BEING SET IN THE STREETS - BANK NOW BEING LOOTED!@@ - EXPLOSIONS HEARD! What's amusing is to see all the "I hate the NWO! I will shoot anyone who comes on my property! Lets have a revolution" folks are acting like "be nice sheeple." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1021626not I. i say KILL all those crooked cops. we need to start swinging back on shit like this. they want us to bow out and forget about it.... fuckin bullshit.. not about black or white--- Cops are a gang.. they need to be taken out.. we dont need them on our streets- protect your own damn streets |
Truthseekr User ID: 928852 United States 07/09/2010 05:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: RIOTING HAS BEGUN IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA - FIRES BEING SET IN THE STREETS - BANK NOW BEING LOOTED!@@ - EXPLOSIONS HEARD! i don't know how a person can confuse a gun for a taser...i'm baffled as to how a cop can't tell the difference...either he is mentally deficient or knew exactly what he was doing...if it was involuntary because he has low brain function, they should have let us know Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1029888they dont. he doesnt pull a pistol- from the pistol holster- turn safety off- then let it BANG without KNOWING what he was doing... bullshit |
OilAwakening User ID: 1008736 United States 07/09/2010 05:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: RIOTING HAS BEGUN IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA - FIRES BEING SET IN THE STREETS - BANK NOW BEING LOOTED!@@ - EXPLOSIONS HEARD! Yea, he actually does act like he was surprised to have shot the guy. He might have really thought he had his tazer out. I think you can even see him put his hands on his head as if he's thinking "Oh my God, what did I do?" Quoting: Truthseekrno. he knew it was his GUN idiot. he got shooken up when he ended his life though. kill that fuckin pig That's an interesting statement from someone with a krishna icon, but what do I expect from the religious these days anyway??? lol There is a huge difference in the weight and shape from his gun and tazer. He knew full well what he was doing. On top of that, after the shooting he told his fellow cops he thought he was "reaching for a gun", hence, denying his own claim that he though he grabbed his tazer. He knew full friggin' well what he was doing. He's a racist murderer. Who could get probation for an execution. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1021626 United States 07/09/2010 05:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: RIOTING HAS BEGUN IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA - FIRES BEING SET IN THE STREETS - BANK NOW BEING LOOTED!@@ - EXPLOSIONS HEARD! What's amusing is to see all the "I hate the NWO! I will shoot anyone who comes on my property! Lets have a revolution" folks are acting like "be nice sheeple." Quoting: Truthseekrnot I. i say KILL all those crooked cops. we need to start swinging back on shit like this. they want us to bow out and forget about it.... fuckin bullshit.. not about black or white--- Cops are a gang.. they need to be taken out.. we dont need them on our streets- protect your own damn streets See, I'm not for killing anyone. However, I understand the frustration and the riot. The point is the people on here normally are trying to start revolutions -- and yet, when a real riot happens, based upon real issues, they say "how dare they." It's clear the people on here talk the talk but not really wanting real reaction to injustice. I'm not saying rioting is itself helpful. I am just saying I know the frustration and think the people doing the riots need to be understood. If the police get off with accidental murder, this is just accidental rioting... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1021626 United States 07/09/2010 05:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: RIOTING HAS BEGUN IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA - FIRES BEING SET IN THE STREETS - BANK NOW BEING LOOTED!@@ - EXPLOSIONS HEARD! Yea, he actually does act like he was surprised to have shot the guy. He might have really thought he had his tazer out. I think you can even see him put his hands on his head as if he's thinking "Oh my God, what did I do?" Quoting: OilAwakeningno. he knew it was his GUN idiot. he got shooken up when he ended his life though. kill that fuckin pig That's an interesting statement from someone with a krishna icon, but what do I expect from the religious these days anyway??? lol There is a huge difference in the weight and shape from his gun and tazer. He knew full well what he was doing. On top of that, after the shooting he told his fellow cops he thought he was "reaching for a gun", hence, denying his own claim that he though he grabbed his tazer. He knew full friggin' well what he was doing. He's a racist murderer. Who could get probation for an execution. Read the Mahabharata -- it's about a war, and Krshna is engaged in it, killing people left and right... |
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Truthseekr User ID: 928852 United States 07/09/2010 05:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: RIOTING HAS BEGUN IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA - FIRES BEING SET IN THE STREETS - BANK NOW BEING LOOTED!@@ - EXPLOSIONS HEARD! What's amusing is to see all the "I hate the NWO! I will shoot anyone who comes on my property! Lets have a revolution" folks are acting like "be nice sheeple." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1021626not I. i say KILL all those crooked cops. we need to start swinging back on shit like this. they want us to bow out and forget about it.... fuckin bullshit.. not about black or white--- Cops are a gang.. they need to be taken out.. we dont need them on our streets- protect your own damn streets See, I'm not for killing anyone. However, I understand the frustration and the riot. The point is the people on here normally are trying to start revolutions -- and yet, when a real riot happens, based upon real issues, they say "how dare they." It's clear the people on here talk the talk but not really wanting real reaction to injustice. I'm not saying rioting is itself helpful. I am just saying I know the frustration and think the people doing the riots need to be understood. If the police get off with accidental murder, this is just accidental rioting... most people-- MOST PEOPLE-- are all talk. cartoon characters. very few LIVE IT.... take action! actions are LOUDER then words... at least SOME people started swinging back... i say kill anyone who is crooked- inside those gangs- cops, fbi, cia, they are the crooked gangs bringing PAIN and Suffering! some people are good in them- leave them alone- kill crooked! kill child molesters! kill people who rape women! stop jailing these sick people- burn them! |
OilAwakening User ID: 1008736 United States 07/09/2010 05:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: RIOTING HAS BEGUN IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA - FIRES BEING SET IN THE STREETS - BANK NOW BEING LOOTED!@@ - EXPLOSIONS HEARD! In my words?!? wow, pressure... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1023648I would say the world is covered in gasoline,... and all it needs is a match... and when the fire burns out, the field is ready to be planted with peace, freedom, and abundance... it's a theory or philosophy, that it just takes a spark, to burn all the shit up. And when it's over, the fields will be fertile... Oh, I need to sleep. :) Oh well, for the time I must take the easy way out, maybe another time we can talk in more depth., this is a good start though... [link to en.wikipedia.org] Hmmm. I refer to your words, I dont have the patience to read wiki. Right now. You do understand power and activism from the bottom up, dont you? Bad govt, corruption, impunity, from the top down? Listening and empowering ourselves,,,, meaning and esp for activists, to derive their understanding and their concienscness from the struggle of those who are struggling. From the bottom up, from those that are oppressed and hurting, to where it can be resolved. For all of us, including you. I dont know. I have my own selfish desires, which is very significant, and I align my desires to those of the majority. Otherwise I have no interest with the majority, and therefore, I have no commitment in being an activist for their interest... You shouldn't be an activist for the majority., you should be an activist for what is right. And you know in your heart what is right. All I ask is that you accept the truth, not the feed. MSM does not always show the truth. See the truth, and do your best. That is all I want. OF course, you will choose your own path, but I will only truly respect an honest path towards the truth. Try your best, and I understand, circle your wagons and scream savage, and I will look at you with disdain. (not because of the past), but because you should know in the now. |
Truthseekr User ID: 928852 United States 07/09/2010 05:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: RIOTING HAS BEGUN IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA - FIRES BEING SET IN THE STREETS - BANK NOW BEING LOOTED!@@ - EXPLOSIONS HEARD! Yea, he actually does act like he was surprised to have shot the guy. He might have really thought he had his tazer out. I think you can even see him put his hands on his head as if he's thinking "Oh my God, what did I do?" Quoting: OilAwakeningno. he knew it was his GUN idiot. he got shooken up when he ended his life though. kill that fuckin pig That's an interesting statement from someone with a krishna icon, but what do I expect from the religious these days anyway??? lol There is a huge difference in the weight and shape from his gun and tazer. He knew full well what he was doing. On top of that, after the shooting he told his fellow cops he thought he was "reaching for a gun", hence, denying his own claim that he though he grabbed his tazer. He knew full friggin' well what he was doing. He's a racist murderer. Who could get probation for an execution. a symbol is a symbol- you can apply any meaning you wish. i thought it looked interesting so i chose it- free avatar- so quick to judge arent you? im agreeing with you tho- the tazer and gun are easily separated! KILL THESE CROOKED COPS!!! KILLEMALL! its the only way they learn! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1016272 United States 07/09/2010 05:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: RIOTING HAS BEGUN IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA - FIRES BEING SET IN THE STREETS - BANK NOW BEING LOOTED!@@ - EXPLOSIONS HEARD! Yea, he actually does act like he was surprised to have shot the guy. He might have really thought he had his tazer out. I think you can even see him put his hands on his head as if he's thinking "Oh my God, what did I do?" Quoting: Truthseekrno. he knew it was his GUN idiot. he got shooken up when he ended his life though. kill that fuckin pig He didn't act like he knew it was his gun to me, it's pretty obvious. how do you mistake a Pistol-Trigger, AND SAFETY!!! (cops have safety on always) for a TASER??? HOW does that happen? explain it??? FUCK that crooked cop n all crooked cops alike. killemall! Most cops carry glocks and springfield pistols, which do not have a safety that you have to move a lever to disable. And tasers here are pretty much like pistols, they have a plastic pistol grip much like glocks do. You don't know jack shit about weapons so just shut the fuck up. |
OilAwakening User ID: 1008736 United States 07/09/2010 05:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: RIOTING HAS BEGUN IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA - FIRES BEING SET IN THE STREETS - BANK NOW BEING LOOTED!@@ - EXPLOSIONS HEARD! I read that with involuntary manslaughter you get 2 to 4 years? Is this true? Quoting: OstriaIt depends. He can get up to 15 depending. (whether he gets illegal use of firearm added by judge??) It's a compounding sentence. I don't know exactly. I'm taking MSM word. But from what I understand so far, at sentencing, he could hypothetically get probation to 15 years prison. MY GUESS is that he will not get more than 4 years, and if I was betting cash, I would bet less than 2, but it's iffy because he is BART< and not OPD. |
Ratla User ID: 1002081 United States 07/09/2010 05:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: RIOTING HAS BEGUN IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA - FIRES BEING SET IN THE STREETS - BANK NOW BEING LOOTED!@@ - EXPLOSIONS HEARD! If he only meant to do that, wouldn't his REACTION be differently asshat? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1021626Clearly he fucking knew what he was doing. And there was no fucking reason for a taser, shitface. Calm down, Francis. So you think Mehserle inentionally murdered Grant in the train station in front of everyone. Im sorry but I completely disagree, but Im also not going on emotion but rather facts of the case and facts of law. Im seriously stumped about some of the responses here. Seriously some these recent ones do not even make sense to me. Im mad and have been mad about the cop killing Grant. My blood boiled when I first saw it. I still get upset when I see it. However, that doesnt change the fact that I DO NOT believe he intended to kill Grant. I saw that video within a few hours of it coming out. My first reaction was exactly what Mehserle said happened - that is, that he meant to pull his Taser and pulled his gun by accident instead. This was an accident waiting to happen and has the potential to happen again. Also, my first reaction was that he would likely get a conviction of involuntary manslaughter - I actually said that when I first saw the video. That was just a guess at the time but I was right. I honestly am dumbfounded by some of the responses here. The facts of the situation and the facts of law are consistent with the jury's verdict. |