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MG-42 User ID: 1216715 Canada 01/09/2011 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Her husband is an astronaut. I have a feeling that her husband knew a little ''too much'' and someone made an example of his wife and her co-workers. Maybe her co-workers were told about something that they shouldnt have known eather. Who knows ? Quoting: MG-42Sigh. I wondered how long it would take. No you didn't. You didn't wonder "how long it would take." You wanted to post it yourself and are kicking yourself for missing the opportunity. LOL, Yeah, as soon as I found that out the conspiracy mind just kicked in. Also, Im going to research this further but I doubt we'll be able to get much more info on her husband. Since everything NASA does involves them being tight-lipped. Or at least they try to be. First thing a couple hours after the shooting when they first announced that her husband works for NASA as an astronaut. The words NASA and Astronaut were glowing in BRIGHT colours in my mind. lmao No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity. 'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains' Education is a RIGHT, NOT a privilege No one deserves privileges, we ALL deserve rights! A privilege means that some one is better than you. Which is NOT CORRECT. We ALL breath the same air, we ALL share the same Earth. ONLY Brotherhood and Unity We ALL bleed RED. Thread: The real facts about your leaders / The Fascist NWO agenda Thread: NATO funded neo-Nazi's during Yugoslav Civil War/breakup of Yugoslavia Thread: NATO symbol is the Swastika/National Socialist Empire Thread: the Doppler Effect, the spirals, and Nibiru |
MDZhB User ID: 1195681 United States 01/09/2011 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, so I looked at this with an open mind. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222002Her current YouTube page has her accessing her channel 10 hours ago. It is currently 11:30 EST on Sunday, so it would be 9:30 MST, which means somebody accessed her channel around midnight on Saturday night (after the shooting). In short, based on the information available on YouTube, nothing is awry, as it seems very reasonable that somebody in her family could have subscribed after the shooting. But, the Imageshack file posted here suggests that she was subscribed BEFORE the shooting. Which creates a few possibilities: 1) The Imageshack file has been altered. 2) The Congresswoman subscribed for some reason. 3) Somebody in her family or staff subscribed. 4) Somebody hacked her account and subscribed. The Imageshack file does not have a date on it, but if it is real, it had to be created before midnight on Saturday night (when the "last login" date was updated). Assuming whomever took the screenshot did it on Saturday after the shooting, then the last login would have been sometime on Thursday afternoon/evening, which means IF THE IMAGESHACK IMAGE IS GENUINE, either: 1) Someone close to the Congresswoman was aware of Loughlin and interested/concerned enough to subscribe to his channel. 2) Her channel had been previously hacked and the hacker had subscibed her. I would personally like to see some evidence that the Imageshack image is genuine. It is just too easy to alter an image like that, but if it is genuine, this was not some random act. The Congresswoman or her staff KNEW of Loughlin. Yeah, it could have been done afterwards by a family member, but why would they? "Oh, this guy just tried to assassinate her. Let's subscribe to him on YouTube!" And it's not like there's any point either. The guy's not going to be posting any more videos. He'll either be in jail soon or "commit suicide" or something. I have no reason to doubt that the ImageShack image is genuine. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 982910 United States 01/09/2011 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, so I looked at this with an open mind. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222002Her current YouTube page has her accessing her channel 10 hours ago. It is currently 11:30 EST on Sunday, so it would be 9:30 MST, which means somebody accessed her channel around midnight on Saturday night (after the shooting). In short, based on the information available on YouTube, nothing is awry, as it seems very reasonable that somebody in her family could have subscribed after the shooting. But, the Imageshack file posted here suggests that she was subscribed BEFORE the shooting. Which creates a few possibilities: 1) The Imageshack file has been altered. 2) The Congresswoman subscribed for some reason. 3) Somebody in her family or staff subscribed. 4) Somebody hacked her account and subscribed. The Imageshack file does not have a date on it, but if it is real, it had to be created before midnight on Saturday night (when the "last login" date was updated). Assuming whomever took the screenshot did it on Saturday after the shooting, then the last login would have been sometime on Thursday afternoon/evening, which means IF THE IMAGESHACK IMAGE IS GENUINE, either: 1) Someone close to the Congresswoman was aware of Loughlin and interested/concerned enough to subscribe to his channel. 2) Her channel had been previously hacked and the hacker had subscibed her. I would personally like to see some evidence that the Imageshack image is genuine. It is just too easy to alter an image like that, but if it is genuine, this was not some random act. The Congresswoman or her staff KNEW of Loughlin. Yeah this is resonating with me. The old Occam's Razor thing. |
ScrumpTheTexan Forum Administrator User ID: 1143284 United States 01/09/2011 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no reason to doubt that the ImageShack image is genuine. Quoting: MDZhBIt's blurry & small... better copy needed to analyze. I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1222597 United States 01/09/2011 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
MDZhB User ID: 1195681 United States 01/09/2011 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no reason to doubt that the ImageShack image is genuine. Quoting: ScrumpTheTexanIt's blurry & small... better copy needed to analyze. It's easy to make a pixel-perfect fake. As such, there's really no point in analyzing the image. Here's one thing: she definitely was NOT subscribed to him as of three months ago, according to Google's cache: [link to webcache.googleusercontent.com] Last Edited by MDZhB on 01/09/2011 11:54 AM |
Solon User ID: 1219426 United States 01/09/2011 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a trigger for something. This is now beyond obvious it was a planned event. The multicontextualization of this event is going to resonate into something much larger. They're moving the pieces into play. They're not even caring that we know this information. I'm really not liking this year. Embrace absolution. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1219130 United States 01/09/2011 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The shooter had been in personal contact with her before as noted in the news. Their meeting was breif, however, perhaps she was convinced enough to subscribe to his account? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1137168THIS is your answer you idiots. This is true and is being reported in the news. This person answered the question accurately on the first page of this silliness. |
MDZhB User ID: 1195681 United States 01/09/2011 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The shooter had been in personal contact with her before as noted in the news. Their meeting was breif, however, perhaps she was convinced enough to subscribe to his account? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1219130THIS is your answer you idiots. This is true and is being reported in the news. This person answered the question accurately on the first page of this silliness. All the shooter posted was a bunch of lunatic fringe junk. Why would she subscribe to him, of all people? What's the timeframe of her contact with the shooter? As you can see in my post above, she was not subscribed as of a few months ago. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1217227 Canada 01/09/2011 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The shooter had been in personal contact with her before as noted in the news. Their meeting was breif, however, perhaps she was convinced enough to subscribe to his account? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1219130THIS is your answer you idiots. This is true and is being reported in the news. This person answered the question accurately on the first page of this silliness. I can find no evidence that the above is true. Please link me to any news story that states they were in contact. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1222002 United States 01/09/2011 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is what I think happened. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222597Do not use account for 2 days. Login to account after 2 days and add shooter. It will say last login 2 days ago and have the subscription to the shooter. That is possible, but seemingly unlikely. I just created a YouTube channel when I saw this thread to research it. Then I closed the window and wrote my post above. I just went back to YouTube and it has "last visit" as 29 minutes ago. Even though I am currently logged, it still has my last visit as 29 minutes ago. I even refreshed now and it says 31 minutes ago. So it is possible, but again leads to some possibilities... 1. The person who took the screenshot had to have been taking the screenshot almost simultaneously with somebody else logging into Giffords account. I am not sure how this would work because I don't understand YouTube's methodology for "last visit", but people could coordinate to test it. 2. The person taking the screenshot WAS logged in under Giffords account (would suggest this whole series of threads is some unbelievably creepy inside disinfo campaign) |
The Spirit Of Truth User ID: 1221706 United States 01/09/2011 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, so I looked at this with an open mind. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222002Her current YouTube page has her accessing her channel 10 hours ago. It is currently 11:30 EST on Sunday, so it would be 9:30 MST, which means somebody accessed her channel around midnight on Saturday night (after the shooting). In short, based on the information available on YouTube, nothing is awry, as it seems very reasonable that somebody in her family could have subscribed after the shooting. But, the Imageshack file posted here suggests that she was subscribed BEFORE the shooting. Which creates a few possibilities: 1) The Imageshack file has been altered. 2) The Congresswoman subscribed for some reason. 3) Somebody in her family or staff subscribed. 4) Somebody hacked her account and subscribed. The Imageshack file does not have a date on it, but if it is real, it had to be created before midnight on Saturday night (when the "last login" date was updated). Assuming whomever took the screenshot did it on Saturday after the shooting, then the last login would have been sometime on Thursday afternoon/evening, which means IF THE IMAGESHACK IMAGE IS GENUINE, either: 1) Someone close to the Congresswoman was aware of Loughlin and interested/concerned enough to subscribe to his channel. 2) Her channel had been previously hacked and the hacker had subscibed her. I would personally like to see some evidence that the Imageshack image is genuine. It is just too easy to alter an image like that, but if it is genuine, this was not some random act. The Congresswoman or her staff KNEW of Loughlin. Spot on. Jay The Spirit Of Truth [link to www.SpiritOfTruth.me] TOPPING PATTERN COMPLETE? - [link to thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com] RUSSIA WAS BEHIND 9/11: [link to thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com] RUSSIA'S SECRET WAR PLANS: [link to thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com] RUSSIA'S LYING TO THIS WORLD: [link to thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com] And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. [2 Thessalonians 2:8] Sing unto God, sing praises to his name: extol him that rideth upon the heavens by his name JAH, and rejoice before him. [Psalm 68:4] [link to thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com] |
MDZhB User ID: 1195681 United States 01/09/2011 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2. The person taking the screenshot WAS logged in under Giffords account (would suggest this whole series of threads is some unbelievably creepy inside disinfo campaign) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222002Extremely unlikely. When you're logged in and look at your own profile page, it's a bit different (there's some extra text, no Subscribe button, etc) (And yeah, you could Photoshop it out, but why do that when you could just log out and take a screenshot then ) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1222002 United States 01/09/2011 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The shooter had been in personal contact with her before as noted in the news. Their meeting was breif, however, perhaps she was convinced enough to subscribe to his account? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1219130THIS is your answer you idiots. This is true and is being reported in the news. This person answered the question accurately on the first page of this silliness. This would still be stunning. Of all the people in the world to subscribe on YouTube, she picks a guy with whom she had a "brief" meeting. Doesn't make any sense. Either she was more closely involved with Loughlin than a brief meeting or something in that meeting scared/interested her or her staff enough to subscribe. The first question that needs to be answered was whether she was really subscribed BEFORE the shooting. That is still an open question. |
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MDZhB User ID: 1195681 United States 01/09/2011 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The first question that needs to be answered was whether she was really subscribed BEFORE the shooting. That is still an open question. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222002It's still an open question, but it's really hard to find evidence either way. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1222002 United States 01/09/2011 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2. The person taking the screenshot WAS logged in under Giffords account (would suggest this whole series of threads is some unbelievably creepy inside disinfo campaign) Quoting: MDZhBExtremely unlikely. When you're logged in and look at your own profile page, it's a bit different (there's some extra text, no Subscribe button, etc) (And yeah, you could Photoshop it out, but why do that when you could just log out and take a screenshot then ) Okay, I don't know enough about YouTube to assess the accuracy of that statement, but I assume it is correct. So that removes the second possibility. So the only way she WAS NOT subscribed BEFORE the shooting, if is possibility #1 can be proven... 1. The person who took the screenshot had to have been taking the screenshot almost simultaneously with somebody else logging into Giffords account. I am not sure how this would work because I don't understand YouTube's methodology for "last visit", but people could coordinate to test it. |
ºLeelooº User ID: 869023 United States 01/09/2011 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The shooter had been in personal contact with her before as noted in the news. Their meeting was breif, however, perhaps she was convinced enough to subscribe to his account? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1219130THIS is your answer you idiots. This is true and is being reported in the news. This person answered the question accurately on the first page of this silliness. From what I've heard/read, his contact with her was near the beginning of the year(unless authorities are not releasing info of recent contact/threats which is possible) and as noted she was not subscribed to his channel until very recently. Honestly, it does not make sense that her staffers would subscribe to his channel considering the content because HER subscribers could then watch those videos. I mean she only has one other subscription. Why would you promote an insane persons ramblings to your constituents? There would have been other ways they could have "kept tabs on him" if they were really concerned about him. Even if the pic is a fake and the channel was subscribed to by a staffer or authorities after the shooting, it was a big mistake on their part. It's just creepy! Regardless what the answer is, I suspect it will be unsubscribed to very soon! Last Edited by ºLeelooº on 01/09/2011 12:06 PM BIG Badaboom! "it's not only at our doorstep, some moran has lit it on fire!" ~Anonymous Coward 919411 talking about doom |
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MDZhB User ID: 1195681 United States 01/09/2011 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not sure how this would work because I don't understand YouTube's methodology for "last visit", but people could coordinate to test it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222002I don't entirely understand it either. I think the "last visit" is actually the "last login"... in my experience, if you remain logged in, you can visit every hour if you want, but the "last visit" will be back when you logged in. |
MDZhB User ID: 1195681 United States 01/09/2011 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 884609 There's no point in higher resolution! It's too easy to make a pixel-perfect fake. So easy, in fact, that I made one: [link to lulzimg.com] All joking aside, there's no point analyzing the image as it's too easily faked. Solid evidence needs to be found elsewhere. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 852966 United States 01/09/2011 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, yes - and the Last Visit now is 10 hours ago. that would be 11pm the night she was shot. Anyone here think she was logging in from her iphone from her hospital bed? Of course, this is GLP... Some of you are probably honestly thinking 'Hey, they said that she quickly had her head covered. There are no PICTURES of her with a bullet hole in her head. This was yet another mistake in this conspiracy to prove that this was a government operation to take away our free speech!' |
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Muhajiir User ID: 1158385 Sweden 01/09/2011 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WOW, just wow!! This is a as a hot smoking gun as they can get! Only two subscriptions and one being the killer? what is the odds? damn why isn't MSM all over this? Anybody in the states can email the news stations?! PIN for truth! Official reporter for Little Sock News! |