Does the resurrection of Jesus prove he is God? | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1115658 United Kingdom 02/05/2011 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course not. That's merely what Christians want you to believe. They are ignorant of Hindu and Buddhist traditions that record the lives of great yogis and mathatmas who achieved God-realisation and Nirvana and who appeared to their disciples in a mayavi rupa (simulacrum of their physical body) after their deaths. Resurrection is not unique to the Christian religion. |
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Wingedlion User ID: 1251820 United States 02/05/2011 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It means that He had power over Death, and is compelling evidence that He came for a purpose, that being that of redemption of mankind. Even in birth he was wrapped in swaddling clothes, those are grave clothes. It seemed that Jesus Christ whole purpose in life, was to give himself for our redemption, to purchase our salvation. "Glory is what happens when faith overcomes adversity." |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1236995 United States 02/05/2011 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It means that He had power over Death, and is compelling evidence that He came for a purpose, that being that of redemption of mankind. Even in birth he was wrapped in swaddling clothes, those are grave clothes. It seemed that Jesus Christ whole purpose in life, was to give himself for our redemption, to purchase our salvation. Quoting: WingedlionHis resurrection does not prove he had power over death, it just means he came back to life. As to how, who knows if it was due to his own power or something else. As for "redemption", that too is not provable. |
iCarbon Boy® User ID: 465270 United States 02/05/2011 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course not. That's merely what Christians want you to believe. They are ignorant of Hindu and Buddhist traditions that record the lives of great yogis and mathatmas who achieved God-realisation and Nirvana and who appeared to their disciples in a mayavi rupa (simulacrum of their physical body) after their deaths. Resurrection is not unique to the Christian religion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1115658That may be recorded, but Christ was seen by over 500 people, most who weren't followers after he was crucified. Given the sentiment held towards early Christians there is no good reason anyone in that time period would lie about something like that. What can be proved requires no faith to accept. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- When the eagles are silent the parrots begin to jabber. (Winston Churchill) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isaiah 8 12 "You are not to say, ‘ It is a conspiracy!’ In regard to all that this people call a conspiracy, And you are not to fear what they fear or be in dread of it. 13 "It is the Lord of hosts whom you should regard as holy. And He shall be your fear, And He shall be your dread. [link to www.youtube.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1254307 United States 02/05/2011 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It means that the mushroom has power over Death, and is compelling evidence that the mushroom came for a purpose, that being that of redemption of mankind. Even at harvest he was wrapped in swaddling clothes, those are grave clothes. It seemed that The Mushroom's whole purpose in life, was to give himself for our redemption, to purchase our salvation. Quoting: Wingedlion |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1113553 United States 02/05/2011 09:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It means that He had power over Death, and is compelling evidence that He came for a purpose, that being that of redemption of mankind. Even in birth he was wrapped in swaddling clothes, those are grave clothes. It seemed that Jesus Christ whole purpose in life, was to give himself for our redemption, to purchase our salvation. Quoting: WingedlionHis resurrection does not prove he had power over death, it just means he came back to life. As to how, who knows if it was due to his own power or something else. As for "redemption", that too is not provable. So you had already determined the answer to the question in the OP, before you even posted it? Then why post it? This is what we call TROLLING. DON'T FEED THE TROLL!!! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1236995 United States 02/05/2011 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It means that He had power over Death, and is compelling evidence that He came for a purpose, that being that of redemption of mankind. Even in birth he was wrapped in swaddling clothes, those are grave clothes. It seemed that Jesus Christ whole purpose in life, was to give himself for our redemption, to purchase our salvation. Quoting: WingedlionHis resurrection does not prove he had power over death, it just means he came back to life. As to how, who knows if it was due to his own power or something else. As for "redemption", that too is not provable. So you had already determined the answer to the question in the OP, before you even posted it? Then why post it? This is what we call TROLLING. DON'T FEED THE TROLL!!! That's just ridiculous. If Jesus did resurrect, I certainly don't know the answer to it. I am simply asking, does it prove Jesus is God? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1236995 United States 02/05/2011 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course not. That's merely what Christians want you to believe. They are ignorant of Hindu and Buddhist traditions that record the lives of great yogis and mathatmas who achieved God-realisation and Nirvana and who appeared to their disciples in a mayavi rupa (simulacrum of their physical body) after their deaths. Resurrection is not unique to the Christian religion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1115658That may be recorded, but Christ was seen by over 500 people, most who weren't followers after he was crucified. Given the sentiment held towards early Christians there is no good reason anyone in that time period would lie about something like that. 500 people saw Jesus after he was resurrected? Prove it. |
Clownkiller User ID: 788929 United States 02/05/2011 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just for the sake of argument, let's say Jesus really did resurrect after being dead for three days. Does that prove he is God? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1236995It proves, by eye witness accounts, he is who he says he is, and that prophecies leading to this time, did come to pass. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1236995 United States 02/05/2011 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just for the sake of argument, let's say Jesus really did resurrect after being dead for three days. Does that prove he is God? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1236995It proves, by eye witness accounts, he is who he says he is, and that prophecies leading to this time, did come to pass. So by that line of reasoning, anyone who says they are God and then does something that science can't explain, is in fact God? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1154424 United States 02/05/2011 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just for the sake of argument, let's say Jesus really did resurrect after being dead for three days. Does that prove he is God? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1236995No it just means whoever rose him from the dead had some bad ass technology |
iCarbon Boy® User ID: 465270 United States 02/05/2011 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course not. That's merely what Christians want you to believe. They are ignorant of Hindu and Buddhist traditions that record the lives of great yogis and mathatmas who achieved God-realisation and Nirvana and who appeared to their disciples in a mayavi rupa (simulacrum of their physical body) after their deaths. Resurrection is not unique to the Christian religion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1115658That may be recorded, but Christ was seen by over 500 people, most who weren't followers after he was crucified. Given the sentiment held towards early Christians there is no good reason anyone in that time period would lie about something like that. 500 people saw Jesus after he was resurrected? Prove it. (NASB) 1 Corinthians 15:6 After that He appeared to more than five hundred brethren at one time, most of whom remain until now, but some have fallen asleep; This book was written around 50AD and corroborated by the secular testimony of Josephus. What can be proved requires no faith to accept. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- When the eagles are silent the parrots begin to jabber. (Winston Churchill) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isaiah 8 12 "You are not to say, ‘ It is a conspiracy!’ In regard to all that this people call a conspiracy, And you are not to fear what they fear or be in dread of it. 13 "It is the Lord of hosts whom you should regard as holy. And He shall be your fear, And He shall be your dread. [link to www.youtube.com] |
No User ID: 1256708 Italy 02/05/2011 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians made that up. Jesus was Jewish and believed in one God. He claimed to be the Messiah not God. Christians did not understand Judaism so they just made stuff up. There is nothing in the bible about the trinity or Jesus being God. Jesus said to call God the father. Jesus called God the father. Christians interpret Jesus calling God the father as Jesus being the son of God. Jesus is also called in the bible son of man. OP, there is no point in arguing with christians as they will not follow their own bible or use logic and reason in interpreting the Bible. It is pointless they will not answer. |
Clownkiller User ID: 788929 United States 02/05/2011 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just for the sake of argument, let's say Jesus really did resurrect after being dead for three days. Does that prove he is God? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1236995It proves, by eye witness accounts, he is who he says he is, and that prophecies leading to this time, did come to pass. So by that line of reasoning, anyone who says they are God and then does something that science can't explain, is in fact God? It would prove that science can't explain everything. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1242793 United States 02/05/2011 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It means that He had power over Death, and is compelling evidence that He came for a purpose, that being that of redemption of mankind. Even in birth he was wrapped in swaddling clothes, those are grave clothes. It seemed that Jesus Christ whole purpose in life, was to give himself for our redemption, to purchase our salvation. Quoting: WingedlionHe came to show us that "resurrecting" is natural at the time of death, that the soul leaves the body when the body dies. It has nothing to do with "saving" anyone. The only one who can save us is ourselves, by our thoughts and our actions. When Jesus was "seen" after his death it was meant to reveal that we have astral (etheric) bodies after we leave our physical bodies. It was meant to reveal that we are indeed immortal beings. We are spiritual beings having a human experience. All this salvation crap was invented by the church to control humanity. They didn't want us to learn the truth because then there would be no need for a church. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1150454 United States 02/05/2011 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course not. That's merely what Christians want you to believe. They are ignorant of Hindu and Buddhist traditions that record the lives of great yogis and mathatmas who achieved God-realisation and Nirvana and who appeared to their disciples in a mayavi rupa (simulacrum of their physical body) after their deaths. Resurrection is not unique to the Christian religion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1115658That may be recorded, but Christ was seen by over 500 people, most who weren't followers after he was crucified. Given the sentiment held towards early Christians there is no good reason anyone in that time period would lie about something like that. when were those 'eye witness accounts written' if there were so many witnesses? In the contemporary literature of Jesus Christ’s life, even the name of Jesus is not mentioned. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1254307 United States 02/05/2011 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It means that He had power over Death, and is compelling evidence that He came for a purpose, that being that of redemption of mankind. Even in birth he was wrapped in swaddling clothes, those are grave clothes. It seemed that Jesus Christ whole purpose in life, was to give himself for our redemption, to purchase our salvation. Quoting: WingedlionHe came to show us that "resurrecting" is natural at the time of death, that the soul leaves the body when the body dies. It has nothing to do with "saving" anyone. The only one who can save us is ourselves, by our thoughts and our actions. When Jesus was "seen" after his death it was meant to reveal that we have astral (etheric) bodies after we leave our physical bodies. It was meant to reveal that we are indeed immortal beings. We are spiritual beings having a human experience. All this salvation crap was invented by the church to control humanity. They didn't want us to learn the truth because then there would be no need for a church. People were ingesting psychadelics, accessing the "etheric Bodies" and finding out they were immortal's spiritually. This could not be tolerated by the church who wanted control of people who couldn't be controlled. The books of the gnostic's were re-written by the church to control people, The exact opposite of what they were supposed to do, originally, Free people. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 774195 United States 02/05/2011 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It means that He had power over Death, and is compelling evidence that He came for a purpose, that being that of redemption of mankind. Even in birth he was wrapped in swaddling clothes, those are grave clothes. It seemed that Jesus Christ whole purpose in life, was to give himself for our redemption, to purchase our salvation. Quoting: WingedlionHe came to show us that "resurrecting" is natural at the time of death, that the soul leaves the body when the body dies. It has nothing to do with "saving" anyone. The only one who can save us is ourselves, by our thoughts and our actions. When Jesus was "seen" after his death it was meant to reveal that we have astral (etheric) bodies after we leave our physical bodies. It was meant to reveal that we are indeed immortal beings. We are spiritual beings having a human experience. All this salvation crap was invented by the church to control humanity. They didn't want us to learn the truth because then there would be no need for a church. Very well stated! Why can't everybody understand this simple concept? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 727447 Canada 02/05/2011 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It means that He had power over Death, and is compelling evidence that He came for a purpose, that being that of redemption of mankind. Even in birth he was wrapped in swaddling clothes, those are grave clothes. It seemed that Jesus Christ whole purpose in life, was to give himself for our redemption, to purchase our salvation. Quoting: Wingedlionand did you know there was NO ressurection of his body, as falsely believed? It is the soul that resurrects not the body and he was long before then a resurrected soul. Depending on which Jesus you meant. Two beings shared that incarnation. Christ Michael simply LEFT. He IS a God. He is a created being and had not need for "resurrection.' the other one, Esu, walked out of that grave and went to India. He never "died" on the cross, his body that is. He went on to teach until well over 100 years old, about 115. He left the body then as all of us do, and returned to his former status. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1154807 Slovakia 02/05/2011 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It means that He had power over Death, and is compelling evidence that He came for a purpose, that being that of redemption of mankind. Even in birth he was wrapped in swaddling clothes, those are grave clothes. It seemed that Jesus Christ whole purpose in life, was to give himself for our redemption, to purchase our salvation. Quoting: Wingedlionand did you know there was NO ressurection of his body, as falsely believed? It is the soul that resurrects not the body and he was long before then a resurrected soul. Depending on which Jesus you meant. Two beings shared that incarnation. Christ Michael simply LEFT. He IS a God. He is a created being and had not need for "resurrection.' the other one, Esu, walked out of that grave and went to India. He never "died" on the cross, his body that is. He went on to teach until well over 100 years old, about 115. He left the body then as all of us do, and returned to his former status. Without body´s resurection would it be all pointless. But you are wrong: They were startled and frightened, thinking they saw a ghost. Luke 24:37 Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe." John 20:27 Trash your Urantia books. |