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Richard Strong User ID: 837852 United States 02/11/2011 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bullshit. They aren't the same disease. "BSE (bovine spongiform encephalopathy, or mad cow), CWD (chronic wasting disease in cervids), and scrapie (in sheep) are all classified as transmissible spongiform encephalopathies, a group of diseases caused by prions. CWD in deer is *not* the same as BSE. I know there has been a *lot* of interest in CWD in recent years with the "discovery" of BSE in Great Britain. So far as I know, there has never been any link between the disease in deer (and elk and other cervids) and the disease in cattle. Also no evidence that people eating infected deer meat are at risk for developing vCJD, which is linked to eating meat infected with BSE. There's probably more info out there than you want about that class of diseases :-)." I am Richardus Strongus. Father to a murdered 'Refreshtard' thread, Husband to a deleted Top 10 thread. I will have my vengeance on the Lightworkers ..in this life or the next. |
haskins User ID: 1262469 United States 02/11/2011 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Danville area...........shit eat 2 or 3 a year [dad is avid hunter] good lean meat.........now my brain is gonna swiss cheese on me.....shit doom is every where I want off this planet.....we done f'ed it up!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1262258 United States 02/11/2011 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No way a deer could get mad cow.. the reason cows got it was becasue they are forced to eat their own.. Quoting: ceawavesWild deer would not do this... Culled deer to be tested By Cindy Wojdyla Cain [email protected] Feb 11, 2011 10:53AM JOLIET — The Will County Forest Preserve District’s deer culling program has taken a twist. The program, which was designed to reduce an overpopulation of deer in some preserves, will now help the state determine if Chronic Wasting Disease has spread to Will County deer. Each deer that is killed in the culling program, which started Tuesday, must be tested for CWD, said Marcy DeMauro, the district’s executive director. Brain tissue from each deer must be extracted by district employees and sent to the Illinois Department of Natural Resources. The disease has been found in 32 Illinois deer since July 1. [link to heraldnews.suntimes.com] |
Massachusetts User ID: 1262235 United States 02/11/2011 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No way a deer could get mad cow.. the reason cows got it was becasue they are forced to eat their own.. Quoting: ceawavesWild deer would not do this... They can get CWD. When we bag a deer, the wildlife guys ask us for the brain matter for testing. We used to use the brain to do traditional braintanning on the hides, but started handing it over for the greater good. |
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Just Saying ... User ID: 1260382 United States 02/11/2011 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi, Rich Strong ! Is that a smell that emulates from your direction ? Just saying/curious ..... TPTB can't have everyone dying off TOO quickly; might raise suspessions, don't you know ? That's why some 'long term' ones fit in nicely. Besides, ANYTHING to cut costs and HIDE food shortages already beging to appear AND to intensify ! Anyone have any tips on how to tell if the deer one kills have the disease, other than lab testing ??? |
Bluestone User ID: 1238714 United States 02/11/2011 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bullshit. They aren't the same disease. Quoting: Richard Strong"BSE (bovine spongiform encephalopathy, or mad cow), CWD (chronic wasting disease in cervids), and scrapie (in sheep) are all classified as transmissible spongiform encephalopathies, a group of diseases caused by prions. CWD in deer is *not* the same as BSE. I know there has been a *lot* of interest in CWD in recent years with the "discovery" of BSE in Great Britain. So far as I know, there has never been any link between the disease in deer (and elk and other cervids) and the disease in cattle. Also no evidence that people eating infected deer meat are at risk for developing vCJD, which is linked to eating meat infected with BSE. There's probably more info out there than you want about that class of diseases :-)." you are pretty much wrong on all accounts CWD is caused by a prion, just as all of the other diseases you noted our. They are all prion associated diseases, which is why they have to get the brain tissue in order to for it They are not "exactly" the same diseases, but they are very very similar |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1262235 United States 02/11/2011 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No way a deer could get mad cow.. the reason cows got it was becasue they are forced to eat their own.. Quoting: ceawavesWild deer would not do this... They can get CWD. When we bag a deer, the wildlife guys ask us for the brain matter for testing. We used to use the brain to do traditional braintanning on the hides, but started handing it over for the greater good. [link to www.mass.gov] "Where has CWD been found? At this time CWD has been detected in wild and/or captive cervids in Colorado, Illinois, Kansas, Nebraska, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, New Mexico, New York, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Utah, Virginia, Wyoming, West Virginia, and Wisconsin, and in the Canadian provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan. New areas of CWD could arise through surveillance. To obtain current information, please contact MassWildlife. Click here for a map of CWD in North America." MAP LINK: [link to www.cwd-info.org] |
Bluestone User ID: 1238714 United States 02/11/2011 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No way a deer could get mad cow.. the reason cows got it was becasue they are forced to eat their own.. Quoting: ceawavesWild deer would not do this... unfortunately there is a way they can get it. The problem is that people have been baiting and feeding the deer. That means the deer come back to the same area over and over again. Eventually the feed gets contaminated by the deer feces. Then the deer end up eating traces of their own feces. And thus we have this problem |
Richard Strong User ID: 837852 United States 02/11/2011 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi, Rich Strong ! Is that a smell that emulates from your direction ? Just saying/curious ..... Quoting: Just Saying ... 1260382TPTB can't have everyone dying off TOO quickly; might raise suspessions, don't you know ? That's why some 'long term' ones fit in nicely. Besides, ANYTHING to cut costs and HIDE food shortages already beging to appear AND to intensify ! Anyone have any tips on how to tell if the deer one kills have the disease, other than lab testing ??? Traditionally, Deer East of the Mississippi do not have the disease, although lately, due to deer farming, scent farming etc. i think a few cases have popped up. They do test it sporadically on deer during deer season here. It's hard to tell what deer have it unless it is in the late stages of the disease. I am Richardus Strongus. Father to a murdered 'Refreshtard' thread, Husband to a deleted Top 10 thread. I will have my vengeance on the Lightworkers ..in this life or the next. |
Azarius User ID: 1165228 United States 02/11/2011 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good story OP. I am in Buffalo Grove (Lake County). I was surprised to read that CWD has been found in dear in Will, Kane, and LaSalle counties. For all of those calling BS about CWD, read here: [link to www.cwd-info.org] CWD belongs to a group of diseases known as transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSEs). Within this family of diseases, there are several other variants that affect domestic animals: bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) in cattle (also known as "mad cow disease"). Anyone who tells you that their religion is better than yours, run away from them as fast as you can. ------------------------- I'm not in the business of seeing whatever pleases you. ------------------------- You don't know me, I am nothing but a stranger to you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1262235 United States 02/11/2011 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) is a contagious neurological disease that is fatal to deer, elk, and moose (cervids). It is classified as a transmissible spongiform encephalopathy or TSE. It attacks the brains of infected animals, resulting in their becoming emaciated, exhibiting abnormal behavior and eventually dying. Related animal diseases include scrapie, which has been identified in sheep for over 250 years and "mad cow disease" in cattle. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1262235 United States 02/11/2011 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good thing I get my deer from NY Quoting: Anonymous Coward 899455FOUND in NY: [link to www.cwd-info.org] |
Bluestone User ID: 1238714 United States 02/11/2011 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in case you don't believe me about CWD being a prion related disease This is from Wikipedia ----------- Chronic wasting disease (CWD) is a transmissible spongiform encephalopathy (TSE) of mule deer, whitetailed deer, elk (wapiti), and moose. TSEs are caused by unusual infectious agents known as prions. To date, CWD has been found mainly in cervids (members of the deer family). First recognized as a clinical "wasting" syndrome in 1967 in mule deer in a wildlife research facility in northern Colorado, USA, it was identified as a TSE in 1978 and has spread to a dozen states and two Canadian province |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1262258 United States 02/11/2011 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No way a deer could get mad cow.. the reason cows got it was becasue they are forced to eat their own.. Quoting: ceawavesWild deer would not do this... unfortunately there is a way they can get it. The problem is that people have been baiting and feeding the deer. That means the deer come back to the same area over and over again. Eventually the feed gets contaminated by the deer feces. Then the deer end up eating traces of their own feces. And thus we have this problem |
Richard Strong User ID: 837852 United States 02/11/2011 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No way a deer could get mad cow.. the reason cows got it was becasue they are forced to eat their own.. Quoting: ceawavesWild deer would not do this... unfortunately there is a way they can get it. The problem is that people have been baiting and feeding the deer. That means the deer come back to the same area over and over again. Eventually the feed gets contaminated by the deer feces. Then the deer end up eating traces of their own feces. And thus we have this problem Yea and dogs eat their own shit as well as other dogs. How come we don't see Mad Dog disease? Yes, there is greater probability of disease transmission when animals are in close contact but that goes with anything. I am Richardus Strongus. Father to a murdered 'Refreshtard' thread, Husband to a deleted Top 10 thread. I will have my vengeance on the Lightworkers ..in this life or the next. |
Bluestone User ID: 1238714 United States 02/11/2011 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No way a deer could get mad cow.. the reason cows got it was becasue they are forced to eat their own.. Quoting: ceawavesWild deer would not do this... unfortunately there is a way they can get it. The problem is that people have been baiting and feeding the deer. That means the deer come back to the same area over and over again. Eventually the feed gets contaminated by the deer feces. Then the deer end up eating traces of their own feces. And thus we have this problem Yea and dogs eat their own shit as well as other dogs. How come we don't see Mad Dog disease? Yes, there is greater probability of disease transmission when animals are in close contact but that goes with anything. so how are these deer getting infected by prions then? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 664301 United States 02/11/2011 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | * We focus attention on the temporal and geographical overlaps between the animal mutilation and TSE epidemics in NE Colorado. The most highly publicized TSE epidemic in North America, chronic wasting disease (CWD), emerged in NE Colorado in the late 1960s. * We show evidence that patterns of animal mutilations conform to covert but classical wild life sampling methodologies for infectious diseases. * We show evidence in support of an epidemic of prion disease that is both subclinical in cattle and clinical in deer/elk in North America. * We describe evidence from two laboratories that a number of prion diseases in humans are misdiagnosed as Alzheimer's disease and therefore currently escape detection. * The historical record shows that high levels of infectious TSEs were imported from New Guinea into research facilities at Fort Detrick and Bethesda, Maryland after 1958 and were used for intensive cross-species infectivity experiments. * We hypothesize that animal mutilations represent both a TSE-disease sampling operation on domestic animals AND a graphic warning that the beef and venison food chain is compromised. Overall, the evidence suggests that animal mutilations are a long-term, covert, prion disease sampling operation by unknown perpetrators who are aware of a substantial contamination of the beef and venison food supply. Although this paper presents evidence in favor of a motive for animal mutilations, there is still insufficient evidence to identify the perpetrators. [link to www.rense.com] |
Dead Sunlight User ID: 1011642 United States 02/11/2011 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good thing I get my deer from NY Quoting: Anonymous Coward 899455Dude, upstate NY is loaded with CWD deer. The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. |
Richard Strong User ID: 837852 United States 02/11/2011 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No way a deer could get mad cow.. the reason cows got it was becasue they are forced to eat their own.. Quoting: ceawavesWild deer would not do this... unfortunately there is a way they can get it. The problem is that people have been baiting and feeding the deer. That means the deer come back to the same area over and over again. Eventually the feed gets contaminated by the deer feces. Then the deer end up eating traces of their own feces. And thus we have this problem Yea and dogs eat their own shit as well as other dogs. How come we don't see Mad Dog disease? Yes, there is greater probability of disease transmission when animals are in close contact but that goes with anything. so how are these deer getting infected by prions then? I'd be more worried if they are infected with Klingons to be honest. Prions don't sound nearly as scary. Lets get real here though...99% of GLP'ers think the earth will end in a year...so eat up. If the shit materializes in 10 years who cares. Right? I am Richardus Strongus. Father to a murdered 'Refreshtard' thread, Husband to a deleted Top 10 thread. I will have my vengeance on the Lightworkers ..in this life or the next. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1262235 United States 02/11/2011 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd be more worried if they are infected with Klingons to be honest. Prions don't sound nearly as scary. Lets get real here though...99% of GLP'ers think the earth will end in a year...so eat up. If the shit materializes in 10 years who cares. Right? Quoting: Richard StrongI smell a movie .... "28 Deers later" Zombie Deer and Elk ? I'M THERE !!! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1252403 United States 02/11/2011 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd be more worried if they are infected with Klingons to be honest. Prions don't sound nearly as scary. Lets get real here though...99% of GLP'ers think the earth will end in a year...so eat up. If the shit materializes in 10 years who cares. Right? Quoting: Richard StrongIt caan take as long as 10 years to materialize. Can be shorter. The more a species is exposed to a pathogen that is benign, the greater likelihood it will mutate and become pathologcal. Ever hear of the bird flu??? It started in birds and now transmissible by people. Otherwise it would have been named people flu. We have very poor resistance to the bird flu because we have not developed immunity. I don't know if our bodies can fight prions. But you go first and eat up. |
Bluestone User ID: 1238714 United States 02/11/2011 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so how are these deer getting infected by prions then? Quoting: Bluestone 1238714I'd be more worried if they are infected with Klingons to be honest. Prions don't sound nearly as scary. Lets get real here though...99% of GLP'ers think the earth will end in a year...so eat up. If the shit materializes in 10 years who cares. Right? who cares what 90% of people on this website think? It's irrelevant to the point here Prion disease is a pretty scary issue. Just blowing it off like that as a non-issue is kind of ignorant in my opinion |
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