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and it continues

Mother scripts characters lying about size of X flares

Mother lies about there being no CMEs

just watch and learn
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okay here goes... Dear Sun, X5+ with a good sized CME. Today or tomorrow. yoda
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not until 2192 starts to crest the western limb per the norm. we will almost certainly see an awe-inspiring cme at that point, historical observations suggest.
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Let's Make it Five
Region 2192 will not let up. Attached image below courtesy of the Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO) captures the fifth X-Class solar flare around the active region, this time an X2.0 peaking at 10:56 UTC Sunday morning. A strong R3 radio blackout was observed on the sunlit side of Earth. The latest event so far appears to have failed once again in producing a coronal mass ejection (CME). With the exception of producing bright flashes of energy as magnetic fields tangle, the magnetic layout and structure of the region is having a hard time releasing plamsa. Click HERE to visit the updated event log. [link to www.solarham.net]
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UMMMMmmmm Ok..... Now you can't tell me anymore someone or something is not controlling our star. There i said it... When 2129 was on the eastern limb it was blowing plasma everywhere... Then it faces earth and starts shooting blanks????????????????????????????? Ill bet all of you here that it will blow plasma on the western limb as it fades away.....
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This has been an issue of much speculation almost since the inception of this thread. Many theories have been bandied about and none seem to satisfy. We've even seen Earth-bound CMEs vanish and never arrive at Earth. Many large sunspots have quietly marched across the disk before violently unloading near or beyond the west limb. My personal pet theories include.....

1) Divine Intervention- the Cosmos has but one ultimate ruler and His Absolute Wisdom controls All and Everything...most of which confounds human understanding.

2) The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle- the fact that an event is being observed intrinsically affects the outcome of the experiment. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] The observer becomes an unaccountable variable in the equation. Reference also the 'Double-slit Experiment' underpinning much of quantum electrodynamics.
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]


[link to www.youtube.com]

3) Some secret military program or device utilizing particle beams or something to protect military space assets from solar storms by somehow stifling the production of strong Earth-facing eruptions. [This sounds far-fetched, but we don't know what black technology is being done by DAARPA who have taken over the H.A.A.R.P. array and removed its public website. We DO KNOW, however, that the USAF is the closest watcher of solar activity on the planet! [link to www.afweather.af.mil]

4) Coincidence- Dumb Luck! (or Good Luck!) Like a great hitter's batting slump or a drunken gambler's sudden lucky streak....things look ridiculously upside down for a time but eventually swings back to the other extreme--but it all averages out in the end. Maybe Solar Cycle 33 (when we're all long dead) will have EVERY major CME aimed at Earth. Can you imagine the conspiracy theories when THAT happens? LOL....

Other theories are also out there, but I tend to believe that #1 is the most plausible. Angels are holding back the forces of destruction until the 'appointed time' so that more souls may be saved before the conclusion of this 'system of things'. Don't expect a NOAA Doom Forecast--It will come as a thief in the night.

As a side-note, a scientist at the Thunderbolts Electric Universe conference made me aware of the fact that, as far as X-rays go, limb flares tend to rate much higher because the most X-Rays are squeezed out sideways from the source of the flare. I had always intuited this from watching these strong limb events, but this guy had the the theorems and equations to back it up. I'll try to track down his talk on YT. I did post it a few months back......
wtf
 Quoting: hugh m eye 62646444


errr.... I think that you forgot these guys. just suggesting as one possible hypothesis. that's all.

alien11
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Well, I was gonna mention the other theories involving super-powerful aliens or astrological alignments, but I don't consider them reasonable possibilties IMO. Why would super-powerful advanced aliens spend their time and energies saving an ant hill. If there were any aliens with any intelligence, we would've been wiped out or eaten by them long ago. With the possible exception of Jazz Music, Earthlings have no redeemable qualities IMO.
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on the contrary, we might have some redeemable quallities. we are a fully viable technological civilization. presumably other advanced civilizations have gone through various developmental stages similar to ours. they would recognize some of the problems which we may have.

I agree with you that we cannot be sure whether there is any confirmation for any of this idea at all.

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AS far as the lack of CMEs go, I'm as surprised as everyone else. This region did unleash a whopper CME 2 days before it came around Earth-side. That flare may have been an X5 or X10, we don't know. I have two speculative theories on this.

One is that the magnetic fields have become so awesomely strong that very little matter can escape (sort of like a mini-black hole). Over time, as the region spreads out and weakens a bit, we'll see more plasma ejected.

Secondly, maybe most of the available 'loose' plasma got blasted out with the far-side eruption, and it takes some time to re-fill the reservoir of ejectable plasma. I have no scientific theories or links for ya, just my trying to wrap my brain around this. I'm sure heliophysicists worldwide are pondering this very enigma right now. I've never seen 4 X-flares and an M8 with no CMEs--we oughtta be getting hammered by this region.

SDO/Solar soft close-up movies of the X1 flare:

[link to sdowww.lmsal.com]

IRIS latest observations (super-duper close-ups):

[link to www.lmsal.com]

Latest SOHO C2 images showing a lack of big CME:

[link to sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov]

wtfwtfwtfwtf
 Quoting: hugh m eye 62646444


Yes this ^^^^, theory #5 would be the most plausible IMHO wink

These eruption simply do not have the components necessary for a significant CME, just as we have seen some much lesser Cs & Ms that unexplicably do.

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Wow, another X and still no protons or CMEs. And no radio event warnings from this one...

Space Weather Message Code: SUMX01
Serial Number: 108
Issue Time: 2014 Oct 26 1125 UTC

SUMMARY: X-ray Event exceeded X1
Begin Time: 2014 Oct 26 1004 UTC
Maximum Time: 2014 Oct 26 1056 UTC
End Time: 2014 Oct 26 1118 UTC
X-ray Class: X2.0
Optical Class: 2b
Location: S15W35
NOAA Scale: R3 - Strong

Potential Impacts: Area of impact consists of large portions of the sunlit side of Earth, strongest at the sub-solar point.
Radio - Wide area blackout of HF (high frequency) radio communication for about an hour.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

NOAA says the region is growing again.....

Joint USAF/NOAA Solar Region Summary
SRS Number 299 Issued at 0030Z on 26 Oct 2014
Report compiled from data received at SWO on 25 Oct
I. Regions with Sunspots. Locations Valid at 25/2400Z
Nmbr Location Lo Area Z LL NN Mag Type
2192 S12W34 249 2570 Fkc 18 44 Beta-Gamma-Delta
2193 N06W74 288 0070 Hax 02 01 Alpha
2194 S12E05 209 0050 Hax 02 01 Alpha
2195 N08E33 182 0090 Dai 10 07 Beta
2196 S04E53 161 0020 Hax 01 01 Alpha
2197 S12E48 167 0010 Axx 01 01 Alpha

NOAA Solar Activity .24 hr Summary...
Solar activity reached high levels. Region 2192 (S12W39,
Fkc/beta-gamma-delta) produced a pair of long duration X-class
(R3-Strong) flares this period. The first R3 event was an X1/3b flare
at 25/1708 UTC and the second R3 event was an X2/2b flare at26/1056 UTC.
No corresponding Type-II or Type-IV radio emissions were observed with
these events nor was there an associated coronal mass ejection (CME)

with the first R3 event. No SOHO/LASCO coronagraph imagery for the
second R3 event was available so an update on the possibility of an
associated CME will be updated in the 27/0030 UTC forecast discussion.

Region 2192 continued to exhibit a trend of minor development,
especially in its intermediate spot area, and persists as the most
threatening region on the visible disk.
The other regions were either
stable or in decay.

.Forecast...
Solar activity is expected to be moderate (R1-R2 (Minor-Moderate)) with
a chance for X-class (R3 or greater) flare activity over the next three
days (26-28 Oct) with Region 2192 being the likely source.
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Solar Monitor:
[link to www.solarmonitor.org]

SolarHam:
[link to www.solarham.net]
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okay here goes... Dear Sun, X5+ with a good sized CME. Today or tomorrow. yoda
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not until 2192 starts to crest the western limb per the norm. we will almost certainly see an awe-inspiring cme at that point, historical observations suggest.
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okay here goes... Dear Sun, X5+ with a good sized CME. Today or tomorrow. yoda
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64503132


not until 2192 starts to crest the western limb per the norm. we will almost certainly see an awe-inspiring cme at that point, historical observations suggest.
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ohyeahcoffee4
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yup. as soon as the sunspot swings away from facing the Earth, it may start popping off flares. that is consistent with some historical items.

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AS far as the lack of CMEs go, I'm as surprised as everyone else. This region did unleash a whopper CME 2 days before it came around Earth-side. That flare may have been an X5 or X10, we don't know. I have two speculative theories on this.

One is that the magnetic fields have become so awesomely strong that very little matter can escape (sort of like a mini-black hole). Over time, as the region spreads out and weakens a bit, we'll see more plasma ejected.

Secondly, maybe most of the available 'loose' plasma got blasted out with the far-side eruption, and it takes some time to re-fill the reservoir of ejectable plasma. I have no scientific theories or links for ya, just my trying to wrap my brain around this. I'm sure heliophysicists worldwide are pondering this very enigma right now. I've never seen 4 X-flares and an M8 with no CMEs--we oughtta be getting hammered by this region.

SDO/Solar soft close-up movies of the X1 flare:

[link to sdowww.lmsal.com]

IRIS latest observations (super-duper close-ups):

[link to www.lmsal.com]

Latest SOHO C2 images showing a lack of big CME:

[link to sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov]

wtfwtfwtfwtf
 Quoting: hugh m eye 62646444


Yes this ^^^^, theory #5 would be the most plausible IMHO wink

These eruption simply do not have the components necessary for a significant CME, just as we have seen some much lesser Cs & Ms that unexplicably do.
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thanks! are you referring to my theory? I appreciate your reply, thanks.
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AS far as the lack of CMEs go, I'm as surprised as everyone else. This region did unleash a whopper CME 2 days before it came around Earth-side. That flare may have been an X5 or X10, we don't know. I have two speculative theories on this.

One is that the magnetic fields have become so awesomely strong that very little matter can escape (sort of like a mini-black hole). Over time, as the region spreads out and weakens a bit, we'll see more plasma ejected.

Secondly, maybe most of the available 'loose' plasma got blasted out with the far-side eruption, and it takes some time to re-fill the reservoir of ejectable plasma. I have no scientific theories or links for ya, just my trying to wrap my brain around this. I'm sure heliophysicists worldwide are pondering this very enigma right now. I've never seen 4 X-flares and an M8 with no CMEs--we oughtta be getting hammered by this region.

SDO/Solar soft close-up movies of the X1 flare:

[link to sdowww.lmsal.com]

IRIS latest observations (super-duper close-ups):

[link to www.lmsal.com]

Latest SOHO C2 images showing a lack of big CME:

[link to sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov]

wtfwtfwtfwtf
 Quoting: hugh m eye 62646444


Yes this ^^^^, theory #5 would be the most plausible IMHO wink

These eruption simply do not have the components necessary for a significant CME, just as we have seen some much lesser Cs & Ms that unexplicably do.
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thanks! are you referring to my theory? I appreciate your reply, thanks.
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I'm not sure who's theory it is .... but yes !! LOL hf
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Good morning, team and happy Friday!

I'm shocked that 2192 has produced numerous moderate to strong flares but no cme. Maybe today will be the day so we have something to entertain us through the weekend.
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Howdy, m m hi, I had a very long and detailed dream last night watching an X3 flare which lasted for hours and blasted a huge CME at Earth. Then the x-ray flux began to rise into the x-range again and I woke up. It was one of the most realistic dreams I can remember. I was disappointed to find we only had an impulsive M4.......maybe soon though.

ddddsfan
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wink
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wow, that's awesome.
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Halo CME @halocme

Tired to say this (lol). No sign of CME from X1.0. So no SWx effects beyond temporary radio blackout/GPS problem
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UMMMMmmmm Ok..... Now you can't tell me anymore someone or something is not controlling our star. There i said it... When 2129 was on the eastern limb it was blowing plasma everywhere... Then it faces earth and starts shooting blanks????????????????????????????? Ill bet all of you here that it will blow plasma on the western limb as it fades away.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1778174


This has been an issue of much speculation almost since the inception of this thread. Many theories have been bandied about and none seem to satisfy. We've even seen Earth-bound CMEs vanish and never arrive at Earth. Many large sunspots have quietly marched across the disk before violently unloading near or beyond the west limb. My personal pet theories include.....

1) Divine Intervention- the Cosmos has but one ultimate ruler and His Absolute Wisdom controls All and Everything...most of which confounds human understanding.

2) The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle- the fact that an event is being observed intrinsically affects the outcome of the experiment. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] The observer becomes an unaccountable variable in the equation. Reference also the 'Double-slit Experiment' underpinning much of quantum electrodynamics.
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]


[link to www.youtube.com]

3) Some secret military program or device utilizing particle beams or something to protect military space assets from solar storms by somehow stifling the production of strong Earth-facing eruptions. [This sounds far-fetched, but we don't know what black technology is being done by DAARPA who have taken over the H.A.A.R.P. array and removed its public website. We DO KNOW, however, that the USAF is the closest watcher of solar activity on the planet! [link to www.afweather.af.mil]

4) Coincidence- Dumb Luck! (or Good Luck!) Like a great hitter's batting slump or a drunken gambler's sudden lucky streak....things look ridiculously upside down for a time but eventually swings back to the other extreme--but it all averages out in the end. Maybe Solar Cycle 33 (when we're all long dead) will have EVERY major CME aimed at Earth. Can you imagine the conspiracy theories when THAT happens? LOL....

Other theories are also out there, but I tend to believe that #1 is the most plausible. Angels are holding back the forces of destruction until the 'appointed time' so that more souls may be saved before the conclusion of this 'system of things'. Don't expect a NOAA Doom Forecast--It will come as a thief in the night.

As a side-note, a scientist at the Thunderbolts Electric Universe conference made me aware of the fact that, as far as X-rays go, limb flares tend to rate much higher because the most X-Rays are squeezed out sideways from the source of the flare. I had always intuited this from watching these strong limb events, but this guy had the the theorems and equations to back it up. I'll try to track down his talk on YT. I did post it a few months back......
wtf
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Good post ol buddy!
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okay here goes... Dear Sun, X5+ with a good sized CME. Today or tomorrow. yoda
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not until 2192 starts to crest the western limb per the norm. we will almost certainly see an awe-inspiring cme at that point, historical observations suggest.
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Agreed!
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okay here goes... Dear Sun, X5+ with a good sized CME. Today or tomorrow. yoda
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64503132


not until 2192 starts to crest the western limb per the norm. we will almost certainly see an awe-inspiring cme at that point, historical observations suggest.
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Agreed!
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yup. now the whole solar crew is eating popcorn and waiting for AR 2192 to rotate off the disc.

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Halo CME @halocme

Tired to say this (lol). No sign of CME from X1.0. So no SWx effects beyond temporary radio blackout/GPS problem
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UMMMMmmmm Ok..... Now you can't tell me anymore someone or something is not controlling our star. There i said it... When 2129 was on the eastern limb it was blowing plasma everywhere... Then it faces earth and starts shooting blanks????????????????????????????? Ill bet all of you here that it will blow plasma on the western limb as it fades away.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1778174


This has been an issue of much speculation almost since the inception of this thread. Many theories have been bandied about and none seem to satisfy. We've even seen Earth-bound CMEs vanish and never arrive at Earth. Many large sunspots have quietly marched across the disk before violently unloading near or beyond the west limb. My personal pet theories include.....

1) Divine Intervention- the Cosmos has but one ultimate ruler and His Absolute Wisdom controls All and Everything...most of which confounds human understanding.

2) The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle- the fact that an event is being observed intrinsically affects the outcome of the experiment. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] The observer becomes an unaccountable variable in the equation. Reference also the 'Double-slit Experiment' underpinning much of quantum electrodynamics.
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]


[link to www.youtube.com]

3) Some secret military program or device utilizing particle beams or something to protect military space assets from solar storms by somehow stifling the production of strong Earth-facing eruptions. [This sounds far-fetched, but we don't know what black technology is being done by DAARPA who have taken over the H.A.A.R.P. array and removed its public website. We DO KNOW, however, that the USAF is the closest watcher of solar activity on the planet! [link to www.afweather.af.mil]

4) Coincidence- Dumb Luck! (or Good Luck!) Like a great hitter's batting slump or a drunken gambler's sudden lucky streak....things look ridiculously upside down for a time but eventually swings back to the other extreme--but it all averages out in the end. Maybe Solar Cycle 33 (when we're all long dead) will have EVERY major CME aimed at Earth. Can you imagine the conspiracy theories when THAT happens? LOL....

Other theories are also out there, but I tend to believe that #1 is the most plausible. Angels are holding back the forces of destruction until the 'appointed time' so that more souls may be saved before the conclusion of this 'system of things'. Don't expect a NOAA Doom Forecast--It will come as a thief in the night.

As a side-note, a scientist at the Thunderbolts Electric Universe conference made me aware of the fact that, as far as X-rays go, limb flares tend to rate much higher because the most X-Rays are squeezed out sideways from the source of the flare. I had always intuited this from watching these strong limb events, but this guy had the the theorems and equations to back it up. I'll try to track down his talk on YT. I did post it a few months back......
wtf
 Quoting: hugh m eye 62646444


errr.... I think that you forgot these guys. just suggesting as one possible hypothesis. that's all.

alien11



Yes this ^^^^, theory #5 would be the most plausible IMHO wink

These eruption simply do not have the components necessary for a significant CME, just as we have seen some much lesser Cs & Ms that unexplicably do.

thanks! are you referring to my theory? I appreciate your reply, thanks.


I'm not sure who's theory it is .... but yes !! LOL hf

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hey, thanks! appreciate it. back atcha!

hf

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LOL! Lowly little M-flares don't even make it into this thread anymore. Three months ago an M-class flare would have been like the highlight of the week.

M1.0 about an hour ago.
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M4.0
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M4.0
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Meh.
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M4.0
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Ok, Space Weather Live is calling it a M4.22, so I guess that's a little sexier than four-even.

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THREE DAYS, THREE X-FLARES: Today (Oct. 26), for the third day in a row, Earth-orbiting satellites detected an X-class solar flare. The X2-category blast came from giant sunspot AR2192, shown here in a Sunday morning sunrise photo from Jean-Baptiste Feldmann of Nuits-Saint-Georges, France:

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the xray average is rising again, looking for another big photonic event. Theres no convective flow giving this Big SS plasmatic possibilities, good magnetics but no heavy particle assimilation. Bark with no bite. That LDE eastern CME literally released all plasmatic properties for awhile at least.
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Halo CME @halocme

Tired to say this (lol). No sign of CME from X1.0. So no SWx effects beyond temporary radio blackout/GPS problem
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UMMMMmmmm Ok..... Now you can't tell me anymore someone or something is not controlling our star. There i said it... When 2129 was on the eastern limb it was blowing plasma everywhere... Then it faces earth and starts shooting blanks????????????????????????????? Ill bet all of you here that it will blow plasma on the western limb as it fades away.....
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This has been an issue of much speculation almost since the inception of this thread. Many theories have been bandied about and none seem to satisfy. We've even seen Earth-bound CMEs vanish and never arrive at Earth. Many large sunspots have quietly marched across the disk before violently unloading near or beyond the west limb. My personal pet theories include.....

1) Divine Intervention- the Cosmos has but one ultimate ruler and His Absolute Wisdom controls All and Everything...most of which confounds human understanding.

2) The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle- the fact that an event is being observed intrinsically affects the outcome of the experiment. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] The observer becomes an unaccountable variable in the equation. Reference also the 'Double-slit Experiment' underpinning much of quantum electrodynamics.
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[link to www.youtube.com]

3) Some secret military program or device utilizing particle beams or something to protect military space assets from solar storms by somehow stifling the production of strong Earth-facing eruptions. [This sounds far-fetched, but we don't know what black technology is being done by DAARPA who have taken over the H.A.A.R.P. array and removed its public website. We DO KNOW, however, that the USAF is the closest watcher of solar activity on the planet! [link to www.afweather.af.mil]

4) Coincidence- Dumb Luck! (or Good Luck!) Like a great hitter's batting slump or a drunken gambler's sudden lucky streak....things look ridiculously upside down for a time but eventually swings back to the other extreme--but it all averages out in the end. Maybe Solar Cycle 33 (when we're all long dead) will have EVERY major CME aimed at Earth. Can you imagine the conspiracy theories when THAT happens? LOL....

Other theories are also out there, but I tend to believe that #1 is the most plausible. Angels are holding back the forces of destruction until the 'appointed time' so that more souls may be saved before the conclusion of this 'system of things'. Don't expect a NOAA Doom Forecast--It will come as a thief in the night.

As a side-note, a scientist at the Thunderbolts Electric Universe conference made me aware of the fact that, as far as X-rays go, limb flares tend to rate much higher because the most X-Rays are squeezed out sideways from the source of the flare. I had always intuited this from watching these strong limb events, but this guy had the the theorems and equations to back it up. I'll try to track down his talk on YT. I did post it a few months back......
wtf
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Divine Intervention

The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle

I think at this point 1 is true and 2 is a law the creator has thrown into the mix. So us meer mortals will never truly understand the logic to understanding how it all works.

Would one if he was the creator be willing to expose all secrets to a mortal being as curious as we humans are??

I can't help think that if humans did unravel the secrets of all there is or ever will be. What would be the reason to carry on!!! And the creator of this matrix or universe. Which ever you believe in knows this. But still we seek the truth because that is what we are programmed to do. WOW did i just type this????

Thanks Hugh another 4 hrs sitting in my garage deep in thought.tounge.... Only you can make me really go there rockon
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Halo CME @halocme

Tired to say this (lol). No sign of CME from X1.0. So no SWx effects beyond temporary radio blackout/GPS problem
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UMMMMmmmm Ok..... Now you can't tell me anymore someone or something is not controlling our star. There i said it... When 2129 was on the eastern limb it was blowing plasma everywhere... Then it faces earth and starts shooting blanks????????????????????????????? Ill bet all of you here that it will blow plasma on the western limb as it fades away.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1778174


This has been an issue of much speculation almost since the inception of this thread. Many theories have been bandied about and none seem to satisfy. We've even seen Earth-bound CMEs vanish and never arrive at Earth. Many large sunspots have quietly marched across the disk before violently unloading near or beyond the west limb. My personal pet theories include.....

1) Divine Intervention- the Cosmos has but one ultimate ruler and His Absolute Wisdom controls All and Everything...most of which confounds human understanding.

2) The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle- the fact that an event is being observed intrinsically affects the outcome of the experiment. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] The observer becomes an unaccountable variable in the equation. Reference also the 'Double-slit Experiment' underpinning much of quantum electrodynamics.
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]


[link to www.youtube.com]

3) Some secret military program or device utilizing particle beams or something to protect military space assets from solar storms by somehow stifling the production of strong Earth-facing eruptions. [This sounds far-fetched, but we don't know what black technology is being done by DAARPA who have taken over the H.A.A.R.P. array and removed its public website. We DO KNOW, however, that the USAF is the closest watcher of solar activity on the planet! [link to www.afweather.af.mil]

4) Coincidence- Dumb Luck! (or Good Luck!) Like a great hitter's batting slump or a drunken gambler's sudden lucky streak....things look ridiculously upside down for a time but eventually swings back to the other extreme--but it all averages out in the end. Maybe Solar Cycle 33 (when we're all long dead) will have EVERY major CME aimed at Earth. Can you imagine the conspiracy theories when THAT happens? LOL....

Other theories are also out there, but I tend to believe that #1 is the most plausible. Angels are holding back the forces of destruction until the 'appointed time' so that more souls may be saved before the conclusion of this 'system of things'. Don't expect a NOAA Doom Forecast--It will come as a thief in the night.

As a side-note, a scientist at the Thunderbolts Electric Universe conference made me aware of the fact that, as far as X-rays go, limb flares tend to rate much higher because the most X-Rays are squeezed out sideways from the source of the flare. I had always intuited this from watching these strong limb events, but this guy had the the theorems and equations to back it up. I'll try to track down his talk on YT. I did post it a few months back......
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but the sun is a sphere so it should not matter .... the limb is a term used for us earth bound beings.....
but why would the sun react different to earth then say mars.

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any thoughts here?????????
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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I don't think it does .... solar flares and their resulting cme's are simply a random result of internal and external influences at any given time.

As mere mortals, were limited to keeping track of patterns ... since this is the first solar cycle available to the public, it may take some time ;)
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M1.2 and rising!
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M2.4 new solar flare
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M2.4 new solar flare
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And again, no fricken CME.
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M2.4 new solar flare
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And again, no fricken CME.
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As usual..we are protected with a shield?
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M2.4 new solar flare
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And again, no fricken CME.
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As usual..we are protected with a shield?
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I'm not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens.

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