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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8807208 United States 01/24/2012 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www2.nict.go.jp] NiP's thread: Thread: OK SOLAR DATA ON TODAYS CME IS BEING MANIPULATED ON ACE (Page 2) |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 9508390 United States 01/24/2012 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On the CACTUS web site: Quoting: joinca [link to www.sidc.oma.be] This is the first time that there has been a continuous plot that fills in the chart for almost a full day. From 01-22 at 22:30UTC to 01-23 at 20:25UTC Has anyone seen this before? The experience and help here is the best!!! WOW, I mean YIKES! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4138139 United States 01/24/2012 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So this CME never hit us? Or it did, but nothing happened? I just saw this article on twitter. [link to www.foxnews.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9493633 Ireland 01/24/2012 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the video's description: "RADIATION STORM IN PROGRESS" Quoting: SaintIn Solar protons accelerated by this morning's M9-class solar flare are streaming past Earth. On the NOAA scale of radiation storms, this one ranks S3, which means it could, e.g., cause isolated reboots of computers on board Earth-orbiting satellites and interfere with polar radio communications. An example of satellite effects: The "snow" in this SOHO chronograph movie is caused by protons hitting the observatory's on board camera... Comment from user CP91311... anyone for microwave popcorn?? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297814 Germany 01/24/2012 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So this CME never hit us? Or it did, but nothing happened? I just saw this article on twitter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4138139 [link to www.foxnews.com] SIDC - RWC BELGIUM Tue Jan 24 2012, 2121 UT Minor storm conditions observed Minor storm conditions are observed at planetary levels, with an estimated Kp=5 between 18:00 and 21:00 UT. In Belgium (Dourbes), minor storm conditions are also observed at the end of the 18-21UT interval. The interplanetary magnetic field was disturbed during that period, with Bz reaching a minimum of -19nT around 18:00UT. At 21:00 UT, Bz is nearly positive again, but new periods of active to minor storm conditions are still possible in the coming hours. Particle data are still unavailable on ACE, but the MTOF proton monitor onboard SOHO did see a shock signature in the solar wind speed and proton density measurements at about 14:30 UT. Current solar wind speed is about 600km/s [link to sidc.oma.be] Beauty auroras right now: Tromso All-Sky CAM: [link to polaris.nipr.ac.jp] Aurora Sky(Alaska) [link to www.auroraskystation.com] |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 9508390 United States 01/24/2012 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was going to poo-poo the NOAA Data cover-up conspiracy UNTIL I SAW THIS!!! Here's a screenshot of earlier solar wind bad data: :ACEbaddata: Compare to the same graph now... [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] ....it looks like somebody erased all the funky-looking solar wind velocities. Why would they bother to do this? Frankly, I'm baffled. Maybe they're just embarrassed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297814 Germany 01/24/2012 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was going to poo-poo the NOAA Data cover-up conspiracy UNTIL I SAW THIS!!! Quoting: Hugh M Eye Here's a screenshot of earlier solar wind bad data: :ACEbaddata: Compare to the same graph now... [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] ....it looks like somebody erased all the funky-looking solar wind velocities. Why would they bother to do this? Frankly, I'm baffled. Maybe they're just embarrassed. DAMN, nice one Hugh!! :robonautweight: oops, damn thought i had also a img^^ but was from yesterday |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 9508390 United States 01/24/2012 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was going to poo-poo the NOAA Data cover-up conspiracy UNTIL I SAW THIS!!! Quoting: Hugh M Eye Here's a screenshot of earlier solar wind bad data: :ACEbaddata: Compare to the same graph now... [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] ....it looks like somebody erased all the funky-looking solar wind velocities. Why would they bother to do this? Frankly, I'm baffled. Maybe they're just embarrassed. NEVER MIND....now I'm embarrassed. I see what they did--they changed the SCALE up to 700 from the original 300. I think I need a GLP break soon, LOL. In that case....I vote NO conspiracy, just corrupted data. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297814 Germany 01/24/2012 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | haha , big thx!!! Got a new video pogram Did u notice we have a new CME? Stereo A: [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7215009 United States 01/24/2012 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | haha Quoting: IwantToBelieve76 , big thx!!! Got a new video pogram Did u notice we have a new CME? Stereo A: [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] [link to sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov] things to come |
NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 6459914 United States 01/24/2012 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was going to poo-poo the NOAA Data cover-up conspiracy UNTIL I SAW THIS!!! Quoting: Hugh M Eye Here's a screenshot of earlier solar wind bad data: :ACEbaddata: Compare to the same graph now... [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] ....it looks like somebody erased all the funky-looking solar wind velocities. Why would they bother to do this? Frankly, I'm baffled. Maybe they're just embarrassed. the time for the graphs is not the same look on the bottom line nothing was errased and yes there is data for ACE, but its bad data look at the density on that graph you really think that the density is around 1.0 with a CME hit? with it maxing out around 6.0 density? Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297814 Germany 01/24/2012 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was going to poo-poo the NOAA Data cover-up conspiracy UNTIL I SAW THIS!!! Quoting: Hugh M Eye Here's a screenshot of earlier solar wind bad data: :ACEbaddata: Compare to the same graph now... [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] ....it looks like somebody erased all the funky-looking solar wind velocities. Why would they bother to do this? Frankly, I'm baffled. Maybe they're just embarrassed. the time for the graphs is not the same look on the bottom line nothing was errased and yes there is data for ACE, but its bad data look at the density on that graph you really think that the density is around 1.0 with a CME hit? with it maxing out around 6.0 density? okay, so ace gives out bad data cause it was hit before it goes offline due to sensor contamination from the ongoing proton event and this explains then the bad data, right? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7215009 United States 01/24/2012 07:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was going to poo-poo the NOAA Data cover-up conspiracy UNTIL I SAW THIS!!! Quoting: Hugh M Eye Here's a screenshot of earlier solar wind bad data: :ACEbaddata: Compare to the same graph now... [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] ....it looks like somebody erased all the funky-looking solar wind velocities. Why would they bother to do this? Frankly, I'm baffled. Maybe they're just embarrassed. the time for the graphs is not the same look on the bottom line nothing was errased and yes there is data for ACE, but its bad data look at the density on that graph you really think that the density is around 1.0 with a CME hit? with it maxing out around 6.0 density? see this tread going on about this NIP did great post okay, so ace gives out bad data cause it was hit before it goes offline due to sensor contamination from the ongoing proton event and this explains then the bad data, right? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7215009 United States 01/24/2012 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was going to poo-poo the NOAA Data cover-up conspiracy UNTIL I SAW THIS!!! Quoting: Hugh M Eye Here's a screenshot of earlier solar wind bad data: :ACEbaddata: Compare to the same graph now... [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] ....it looks like somebody erased all the funky-looking solar wind velocities. Why would they bother to do this? Frankly, I'm baffled. Maybe they're just embarrassed. the time for the graphs is not the same look on the bottom line nothing was errased and yes there is data for ACE, but its bad data look at the density on that graph you really think that the density is around 1.0 with a CME hit? with it maxing out around 6.0 density? see this tread going on about this NIP did great post okay, so ace gives out bad data cause it was hit before it goes offline due to sensor contamination from the ongoing proton event and this explains then the bad data, right? sorry here is great thread on this right now Thread: OK SOLAR DATA ON TODAYS CME IS BEING MANIPULATED ON ACE |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 9508390 United States 01/24/2012 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | haha Quoting: IwantToBelieve76 , big thx!!! Got a new video pogram Did u notice we have a new CME? Stereo A: [link to stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov] I did see that but I couldn't find anything on SOHO. Maybe it's headed straight ahead toward Earth/SOHO direction. Speaking of SOHO I see it's still snowing. It's somewhat diminished but, gosh, how long do these "snow-storms" last? It's been about 40 hours now. The magneto-tail must be charged up pretty good. I see the K Index has dropped to 3, so this storm seems to be less persistent than the last one. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Latest SOHO image: [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov] |
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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 01/24/2012 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | January 24, 2012 Cold plasma has been well-hidden. Space physicists have long lacked clues to how much of this electrically charged gas exists tens of thousands of miles above Earth and how the stuff may impact our planet's interaction with the sun. Now, a new method developed by Swedish researchers makes cold plasma measurable and reveals significantly more cold, charged ions in Earth's upper altitudes than previously imagined. ................................... Quoting: observation............While low-energy ions are not responsible for the damage caused by space weather, they do influence that weather. André compared the swaths of ions to, say, a low-pressure area in our familiar, down-to-Earth weather — as opposed to a harmful storm. It is a key player, even if it doesn’t cause the damage itself. "You may want to know where the low-pressure area is, to predict a storm,” André noted. [link to www.physorg.com] |
joinca User ID: 8793176 United States 01/24/2012 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "In Lofoton, Norway, the CME's arrival produced a surge in ground currents outside the laboratory of Rob Stammes": Nice chart at: [link to spaceweather.com] "The government will one day be corrupt and full of liars, and the people will flock to the one that tells the truth." - “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.” - "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." - "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - "A Country with no Border, is not a country" -- Thomas Jefferson We MUST NEVER forget what Kamala Harris did to Justice Kavanaugh & his family! |
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learner User ID: 8531500 United States 01/24/2012 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i dunno, guyz... there's clearly a LOT of energy out there (what with proton/ electron counts and atmospheric ionization [seen in the D-RAP chart]) and its messed with some(much?) of our instrumentation...on purpose, on accident and possible 'ass saving' going on not with standing... i think this thing done passed us by... based on this data: [link to www.bigupload.com] which is a graphical comparison between last year's double whammy x class and this current double whammy... and lookin' at the general wave shapes.. i'd say we seen the worst this particular CME has to offer. feels that way too... shrug. |
learner User ID: 8531500 United States 01/24/2012 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i dunno, guyz... Quoting: learner 8531500 there's clearly a LOT of energy out there (what with proton/ electron counts and atmospheric ionization [seen in the D-RAP chart]) and its messed with some(much?) of our instrumentation...on purpose, on accident and possible 'ass saving' going on not with standing... i think this thing done passed us by... based on this data: [link to www.bigupload.com] which is a graphical comparison between last year's double whammy x class and this current double whammy... and lookin' at the general wave shapes.. i'd say we seen the worst this particular CME has to offer. feels that way too... shrug. might be one more half wave ahead... we'll c. |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 01/24/2012 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i dunno, guyz... Quoting: learner 8531500 there's clearly a LOT of energy out there (what with proton/ electron counts and atmospheric ionization [seen in the D-RAP chart]) and its messed with some(much?) of our instrumentation...on purpose, on accident and possible 'ass saving' going on not with standing... i think this thing done passed us by... based on this data: [link to www.bigupload.com] which is a graphical comparison between last year's double whammy x class and this current double whammy... and lookin' at the general wave shapes.. i'd say we seen the worst this particular CME has to offer. feels that way too... shrug. might be one more half wave ahead... we'll c. yes, feels same to me now we await how our capacitor (earth) discharges |
learner User ID: 8531500 United States 01/24/2012 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | kinda feels more like a 'charging' than a 'trigger'.... [link to www.bigupload.com] whatever that means. |
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learner User ID: 8531500 United States 01/24/2012 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | based on this data: Quoting: learner 8531500 [link to www.bigupload.com] which is a graphical comparison between last year's double whammy x class and this current double whammy... curious memory here: i wasn't online GLP at the time , but i remember that week well. i remember being angry and aggressive: unusually so... lol, got me into some trouble too... things is: that CME happened while we were perpendicular to Mars. i find that interesting. |
JustOneGuy User ID: 967946 Puerto Rico 01/24/2012 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UmmHmmm, M8.7 Flare @ 03:59 23 Jan 2012 SEI @ 15:04 24 Jan 2012 Time Elapsed From 03:59 23 Jan 2012 To Midnight 23 Jan 2012 Is: (24:00 - 03:59) Hr = 20:01 Hrs = 20 Hrs + ((1 Min)/(60 Min/Hr)) = (20 + .01666...) ~ 20.01667 Hrs. ############## >>>>>>> 20.01667 Hrs ############## Time Elapsed During 1/24/2012 Is: 15:04 Hrs = 15 + ((04 Min)/(60 Min/Hr)) = (15 + .06666...) Hrs ~ 15.0667 Hrs. ############# >>>>>>> 15.0667 Hrs ############# Trivially, TOTAL Elapsed Time Is: 20.01667 Hrs + 15.0667 Hrs = 35.08337 Hrs. ############## 35.08337 hrs ############## Earth Sun Distance 1/24/2012 = 91544226 Mi ** 91544226 Mi/35:05 Hrs = 2609336.6081 Mi/Hr = Since 3600 Sec/Hr (2609336.6081 (Mi/Hr))/(3600 (Sec/Hr)) ~ 724.8157 Mi/sec Since 1 Mi = 1.60834 Km (Metric.org) Then (724.8157 (Mi/Sec))*(1.060834 (Km/Mi)) ~ 1165.75 Km/Sec ################ 1165.75 Km/Sec ################ Estimated CME Speed As Reported Initially ~ 2200 Km/Sec 2200 Km/Sec - 1165.75 Km/Sec = 1034.25 KM/Sec ? ? ? ? ?... ...The Tree Of Liberty Must From Time To Time Be Refreshed With The Blood Of Patriots And Tyrants...... |