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SnakeBite User ID: 13658852 Canada 07/15/2012 11:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sol is turning toward Venus like, "arrrgh I could only scare .03% of the people on earth right now, Venus ...ARRRRGHHH" Well im wondering if it is still facing Earth at all, because if it is, TECHNICALLY it could slap us again Last Edited by SnakeBite on 07/15/2012 11:49 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540313 United States 07/15/2012 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Voltage Across the Polar Cap just went over 250kV (Convection): Quoting: TeamReaper [link to mms.rice.edu] Under solar wind conditions: This index is keyed to the estimated instantaneous "asymptotic voltage" across the polar cap, the single most important measure of electrical power delivered to the atmosphere from the solar wind. We now use data from the ACE real-time solar wind package. [link to mms.rice.edu] Wow, that's high! Isn't 50 considered a moderate high? No, I just answered my own question. 150 is more the normal median. Goes to red status if over 200. |
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Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 07/16/2012 12:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like old Sol may be waking up again, hmmmm.. I am teh sun newb so im sure the rest of you know this, but ive just recently realized that a great way to notice a flare happening almost right away is to watch this [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] It responds instantly to any rises in activity from Sol. Im very intrigued!!! Quoting: SnakeBite That chart just shows the radio frequency absorption in the D-layer of the ionosphere. It's mostly used by airlines communications, military and ham radio operators. But it does look cool during big flares and SEP events. [link to www.radio-electronics.com] More on HF radio propagation and solar activity: [link to www.hamqsl.com] Here's what Hugh added to help Hey if you watch now, i notised its rising again, watch both of the charts and you will see what i was talking about:D Please watch it! For some reason I want you to see this, lol:D Its good to be a SunTard!!!! Hi SB, I had to go watch some corny TV, I won't mention what. I'll check those graphs cause its fun, I'm a suntard, she's a suntard, wouldn't you like to be a suntard too? Thats an old jingle, he he Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
SnakeBite User ID: 13658852 Canada 07/16/2012 12:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, I think im going to make a toast out to the entire team here, NiN you have the best forum i have ever been on! Thank you for providing all of this information! *Raises shot of Jack Daniels up to the SunTard Team! Quoting: SnakeBite from this suntard who has MUCH to learn! You and be both brother! |
Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 07/16/2012 12:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here's the plot from the X-45 flare back in 2003. It followed on the heels of the massive storm (X-17) shown in the link on the bottom Quoting: RTS REDUX [link to www.theusner.eu] X-20 flare from 2001 [link to www.theusner.eu] X-20 from August 1989 [link to www.theusner.eu] X17 from Oct 2003 [link to www.theusner.eu] top 20 solar flares since 1978 [link to www.solarham.net] Type in March 13, 1989.....wowza, thanks for the link [link to www.theusner.eu] is terribly inaccurate I'm sorry to say. It is misreporting the G levels of the storms in every single graph. The person who made this graph has it set to interpret a negative Kp scale as a G threshold. For example, if the reading from GFZ is Kp 8-, his chart calls that a G4 (Severe) storm. But the G4 threshold is not Kp 8-, it is Kp 8o, aka Kp 8. See image [link to www-app3.gfz-potsdam.de] So yeah, it's nice he went back and graphed all that data, but it really needs to be fixed as it's terribly misleading lol. I sent him an email... and I was having so much fun with it, he he Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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SnakeBite User ID: 13658852 Canada 07/16/2012 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Hugh M Eye That chart just shows the radio frequency absorption in the D-layer of the ionosphere. It's mostly used by airlines communications, military and ham radio operators. But it does look cool during big flares and SEP events. [link to www.radio-electronics.com] More on HF radio propagation and solar activity: [link to www.hamqsl.com] Here's what Hugh added to help Hey if you watch now, i notised its rising again, watch both of the charts and you will see what i was talking about:D Please watch it! For some reason I want you to see this, lol:D Its good to be a SunTard!!!! Hi SB, I had to go watch some corny TV, I won't mention what. I'll check those graphs cause its fun, I'm a suntard, she's a suntard, wouldn't you like to be a suntard too? Thats an old jingle, he he Haha you missed it then, but if you look at the 1 min xray flux [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] youll notice that things are slowly coming alive (DARE I JINX IT!!) Now look at the absorption chart [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] as the xray goes up watch the circles of "light" on the screen, they will instantly get more intense depending on how high xrays go. Ive had a few to drink so forgive me if im slightly sloppy |
Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 07/16/2012 12:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi MSO, you are a very well rounded glp'er if you don't mind my saying so....I like your economy input!!! Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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Solar Guardian User ID: 19652309 Malaysia 07/16/2012 12:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Our magnetosphere is taking a severe beating!!! Now at 30 Nanotesla!!! [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] |
Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 07/16/2012 12:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey if you watch now, i notised its rising again, watch both of the charts and you will see what i was talking about:D Please watch it! For some reason I want you to see this, lol:D Its good to be a SunTard!!!! Hi SB, I had to go watch some corny TV, I won't mention what. I'll check those graphs cause its fun, I'm a suntard, she's a suntard, wouldn't you like to be a suntard too? Thats an old jingle, he he Haha you missed it then, but if you look at the 1 min xray flux [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] youll notice that things are slowly coming alive (DARE I JINX IT!!) Now look at the absorption chart [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] as the xray goes up watch the circles of "light" on the screen, they will instantly get more intense depending on how high xrays go. Ive had a few to drink so forgive me if im slightly sloppy I will/am, I'm getting high tech now, got both of those on the favorites bar, yeah thats right, I said favorites bar!!! (thats cause I just figured out how to use it, LOL and I'm sooo happy. Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 07/16/2012 12:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Our magnetosphere is taking a severe beating!!! Now at 30 Nanotesla!!! [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Quoting: Solar Guardian Yes she is, sending her a little LOVE, she needs it, just like the rest of us, Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
SnakeBite User ID: 13658852 Canada 07/16/2012 12:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: SnakeBite Hey if you watch now, i notised its rising again, watch both of the charts and you will see what i was talking about:D Please watch it! For some reason I want you to see this, lol:D Its good to be a SunTard!!!! Hi SB, I had to go watch some corny TV, I won't mention what. I'll check those graphs cause its fun, I'm a suntard, she's a suntard, wouldn't you like to be a suntard too? Thats an old jingle, he he Haha you missed it then, but if you look at the 1 min xray flux [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] youll notice that things are slowly coming alive (DARE I JINX IT!!) Now look at the absorption chart [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] as the xray goes up watch the circles of "light" on the screen, they will instantly get more intense depending on how high xrays go. Ive had a few to drink so forgive me if im slightly sloppy I will/am, I'm getting high tech now, got both of those on the favorites bar, yeah thats right, I said favorites bar!!! (thats cause I just figured out how to use it, LOL and I'm sooo happy. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] [link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov] [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] I am only new here from about a week ago, this is my first solar storm on this forum, and i never really knew much about them before. Those were some of the links provided to me, took me a bit of reading and what not but im slowly beginning to see how things work, You want to know something, just ask, there are plenty of intelligent people on the subject here:D |
Isis One User ID: 14343270 United States 07/16/2012 12:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by Isis One on 07/16/2012 12:47 AM Spread the word, change the collective conscious...... THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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madajs User ID: 6377684 Canada 07/16/2012 01:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.theusner.eu] is terribly inaccurate I'm sorry to say. It is misreporting the G levels of the storms in every single graph. The person who made this graph has it set to interpret a negative Kp scale as a G threshold. For example, if the reading from GFZ is Kp 8-, his chart calls that a G4 (Severe) storm. But the G4 threshold is not Kp 8-, it is Kp 8o, aka Kp 8. See image [link to www-app3.gfz-potsdam.de] Quoting: madajs So yeah, it's nice he went back and graphed all that data, but it really needs to be fixed as it's terribly misleading lol. I sent him an email... and I was having so much fun with it, he he Hi Isis . You can still have fun with it if you don't mind unravelling it's foibles. The data it is sourced from is accurate, he just didn't understand how to present it properly. When that graph shows an 8-, an 8- did occur. You'll just have to keep in mind that each "G" storm category contains 3 Kp scales, beginning with o, then +, then -. To attain the next "G" category, the Kp must reach o. So for example, the planet is currently experiencing a G2 storm, the range of which can be as low as Kp 6o and as high as Kp7- (according to GFZ we're currently at Kp 6+, which equates to a "medium" G2 storm). So his Kp values are accurate, you'll just have to place them in the appropriate storm categories in your head when you look at his graph. And always, he fought the temptation to choose a clear, safe course, warning: "That path leads ever down into stagnation." |
NiNzrez (OP) User ID: 12844841 United States 07/16/2012 01:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, I think im going to make a toast out to the entire team here, NiN you have the best forum i have ever been on! Thank you for providing all of this information! *Raises shot of Jack Daniels up to the SunTard Team! Quoting: SnakeBite from this suntard who has MUCH to learn! You and be both brother! much love to you and the entire crew here! i have been trying for over 4hrs to get online my net will connect, then within 30 sek its back out same with my daughters phone im not sure whats going on because i was just able to get this page to load, then my net when out again my net is out while im writing this, but im going to hit post when it connects again and hope it goes through before it cuts out again just wanted to let you all know why i have not showed up tonight guess i will go watch a DVD and try to catch up on some sleep hope everyone is well and having better luck with their net than i am hahah Join Me On The GLP SOLAR WATCH Thread Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) |
Hugh M Eye User ID: 19372178 United States 07/16/2012 01:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The last C 3 flare seemed to come from 1522 near the NW limb. It looks like a hanging C, too. [link to halpha.nso.edu] On the geomagnetic storm, this info from SIDC- GEOMAGNETISM : Major geomagnetic storm expected (A>=50 or K>=6) SOLAR PROTONS : Quiet PREDICTIONS FOR 15 Jul 2012 10CM FLUX: 147 / AP: 047 PREDICTIONS FOR 16 Jul 2012 10CM FLUX: 146 / AP: 011 PREDICTIONS FOR 17 Jul 2012 10CM FLUX: 145 / AP: 007 COMMENT: PRESTO FROM SIDC - RWC BELGIUM Sun Jul 15 2012, 0958 UT The CME associated to the X1.4 flare of July 12 arrived yesterday evening around 17:30UT and produced, as predicted a major geomagnetic storm since then. From this morning 06:00UT the interplanetary magnetic field turned southward consistently at -20nT, resulting in a second, reinforced phase of the magnetic storm that will presumably last for the rest of the UT day. Meanwhile flaring activity on the Sun has decreased, there are no other CMEs on the way to the Earth. [link to sidc.oma.be] |
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Hugh M Eye User ID: 19372178 United States 07/16/2012 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The x-ray flux has remained above C1 for 4 hours now. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] The "official" debunked fudged numbers for the Kp Index is now at 5=Storm: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] They round all the numbers downward: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Weirdest ACE SW Plot in recent memory: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Good night and good morning everyone! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19869237 Germany 07/16/2012 02:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The x-ray flux has remained above C1 for 4 hours now. Quoting: Hugh M Eye [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] The "official" debunked fudged numbers for the Kp Index is now at 5=Storm: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] They round all the numbers downward: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Weirdest ACE SW Plot in recent memory: [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] Good night and good morning everyone! I did attribute the non volatile graphs of the solar wind and the BZ component to perhaps a malfunction in the ACE detectors. However, the fact that we are having a G2 storm makes it very likely that the readings are indeed correct... I don`t have enough experience to explain the odd readings, but I haven`t seen something similar in the last 2 years (which doesn`t say too much) |
madajs User ID: 6377684 Canada 07/16/2012 03:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GFZ's UTC 0300-0600 update is showing us dropped to a Kp 6o (baseline) storm with 10 of 13 magnetometers reporting. [link to www-app3.gfz-potsdam.de] In my opinion the institution that calculates the official planetary Kp index is also the preeminent source for Kp estimates so I'm going to be focusing on their readings going forward. Their source is a network of 13 magnetometers [link to www-app3.gfz-potsdam.de] that is by far the most globally spread out compared to other magnetometer networks. It's really comprehensive. And always, he fought the temptation to choose a clear, safe course, warning: "That path leads ever down into stagnation." |