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Granny User ID: 1347217 United States 04/24/2011 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Use to be they would just SHOT YOU.. I wonder how many lives they have saved? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1153822Oh but it the police.. you cop hating faggets dont care about nothing.. you are all just arm chair warriors When tasers were first introduced, they were sold to the american public as an alternative to lethal force. That is NOT what they have turned into. Do you really mean to tell me everyone who has been tasered since their introduction would have been SHOT if a taser was not available? Find me one headline where it says 'Gun wielding man tasered into submission'. These people are still shot and killed by the police. Instead tasers have been turned into an instrument of forced compliance to any police command. Its only a matter of time before some cop tasering someone is brought to instant mob justice by the people watching the event instead of just videoing it for you-tube. =============================== Agreed and l give it less than a year to happen... The event.... The Snapping of the rubberband.... it may have already happened .... and "They" are covering it up ....AFRAID of COPYCATS......imagine that, scared of a kitty....or is it a Lion ???? It has been said : "DON'T TREAD ON ME" ...it still holds. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1312328 United States 04/24/2011 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 'Constable' is lucky he didn't taser my kid in my home. whether I hit the kid and he was riled up or not. He was in his own home. thats my goddamned job. I would veiw it as a criminal assault with a deadly weapon taking place in my home with out a just or logical cause. If cops can't subdue an unarmed kid with their strength, then they need to get of the fucking force Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312328If the Officer was called to your house by a family member, then he has PC to be there. If your kid is being a jackass and gets Tased, I'm sure you would be pissed but the reality is that the Officer would be well within his rights. If you chose to do whatever tough guys like you do, then I'm sure you would be dealt with accordingly one way or another. He has probable cause to be there and perhaps to arrest someone (not necessarily the kid), but not to criminally assault my child with a deadly weapon, and if he did, i would interfere using whatever force was made necessary, in compliance with the law |
Silkstalkings User ID: 1168432 United States 04/24/2011 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If police are unable to do their jobs without torturing people to gain compliance, they shouldn't be on the police force.My 'suggestion' is to either rush him with several cops at once and subdue him that way, or walk off and LEAVE HIM ALONE. I often wonder why police never see that as an option. It is not their job to brawl with people on the street, if i were a single cop trying to arrest a guy like that, i'd do the smart thing ans say fuck it. Call it common sense. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312328So if you had a guy who you had developed PC for arrest that he had raped someone's teenage daughter, but he looked like a tough arrest you would say fuck it? Wow, what a surprise. Sounds to me like you are a coward. It's not a matter of people not being able to do their jobs without torturing, it's about the most effective and least permanent damage occuring while taking into custody those who don't want to be. That's common sense, not turning your back and walking away like a coward. |
Silkstalkings User ID: 1168432 United States 04/24/2011 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 'Constable' is lucky he didn't taser my kid in my home. whether I hit the kid and he was riled up or not. He was in his own home. thats my goddamned job. I would veiw it as a criminal assault with a deadly weapon taking place in my home with out a just or logical cause. If cops can't subdue an unarmed kid with their strength, then they need to get of the fucking force Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312328If the Officer was called to your house by a family member, then he has PC to be there. If your kid is being a jackass and gets Tased, I'm sure you would be pissed but the reality is that the Officer would be well within his rights. If you chose to do whatever tough guys like you do, then I'm sure you would be dealt with accordingly one way or another. He has probable cause to be there and perhaps to arrest someone (not necessarily the kid), but not to criminally assault my child with a deadly weapon, and if he did, i would interfere using whatever force was made necessary, in compliance with the law The law would not treat you kindly, inside or outside of the courtroom. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1312328 United States 04/24/2011 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If police are unable to do their jobs without torturing people to gain compliance, they shouldn't be on the police force.My 'suggestion' is to either rush him with several cops at once and subdue him that way, or walk off and LEAVE HIM ALONE. I often wonder why police never see that as an option. It is not their job to brawl with people on the street, if i were a single cop trying to arrest a guy like that, i'd do the smart thing ans say fuck it. Call it common sense. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312328So if you had a guy who you had developed PC for arrest that he had raped someone's teenage daughter, but he looked like a tough arrest you would say fuck it? Wow, what a surprise. Sounds to me like you are a coward. It's not a matter of people not being able to do their jobs without torturing, it's about the most effective and least permanent damage occuring while taking into custody those who don't want to be. That's common sense, not turning your back and walking away like a coward. Horseshit, you're really good at dancing around the issue avoiding it directly. Police are not using these weapons as self defense and that is their only legal application, they're using them on kids , grandmothers, people in wheel chairs, and anyone else who has the 'audacity' to stand up to them |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1312328 United States 04/24/2011 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The law would not treat you kindly, inside or outside of the courtroom. Quoting: SilkstalkingsYeah, i am quite aware the police would try to kill me in retaliation without even considering the circumstances and whether or not it was a justified killing.Let me worry about that, it's not you're problem. And as for the courtrooms, you might be just how surprised people in general are fed up with evil , stupid cops abusing and killing innocent citizens. t |
Longo User ID: 1347217 United States 04/24/2011 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your police are doing something. In the netherlans are they afraid of blacks and North Africans. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316071From me there should be 10,000 thousand deaths by teasers. Will only be North Africans. ================== Be at Ease Netherlander....Don't Fear the Black Snake.... Embrace it... with both hands...like your women do. |
Silkstalkings User ID: 1168432 United States 04/24/2011 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If police are unable to do their jobs without torturing people to gain compliance, they shouldn't be on the police force.My 'suggestion' is to either rush him with several cops at once and subdue him that way, or walk off and LEAVE HIM ALONE. I often wonder why police never see that as an option. It is not their job to brawl with people on the street, if i were a single cop trying to arrest a guy like that, i'd do the smart thing ans say fuck it. Call it common sense. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312328So if you had a guy who you had developed PC for arrest that he had raped someone's teenage daughter, but he looked like a tough arrest you would say fuck it? Wow, what a surprise. Sounds to me like you are a coward. It's not a matter of people not being able to do their jobs without torturing, it's about the most effective and least permanent damage occuring while taking into custody those who don't want to be. That's common sense, not turning your back and walking away like a coward. Horseshit, you're really good at dancing around the issue avoiding it directly. Police are not using these weapons as self defense and that is their only legal application, they're using them on kids , grandmothers, people in wheel chairs, and anyone else who has the 'audacity' to stand up to them You are misinformed. Tasers are not and have never been applied as a self defense tool. They are an offensive tool used to gain compliance, period. That has always been the implementation whether advertised as such or not. This isn't the movies you "Rage against the machine" clown. Police Officers mean business and their lives depend on it as well as your own. If it means the difference between violating your constitutional rights (which I don't believe it does) and the officer going home in the morning without being broken and battered, then guess what he will choose. Not to mention that it will most likely be you that is broken and bruised if he doesn't use the Taser. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1312328 United States 04/24/2011 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The law would not treat you kindly, inside or outside of the courtroom. Quoting: SilkstalkingsYeah, i am quite aware the police would try to kill me in retaliation without even considering the circumstances and whether or not it was a justified killing.Let me worry about that, it's not you're problem. And as for the courtrooms, you might be surprised just how much people in general are fed up with evil , stupid cops abusing and killing innocent citizens. Edited |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1312328 United States 04/24/2011 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are misinformed. Tasers are not and have never been applied as a self defense tool. They are an offensive tool used to gain compliance, period. That has always been the implementation whether advertised as such or not. Quoting: SilkstalkingsThen their use is illegal This isn't the movies you "Rage against the machine" clown. Police Officers mean business and their lives depend on it as well as your own. If it means the difference between violating your constitutional rights (which I don't believe it does) and the officer going home in the morning without being broken and battered, then guess what he will choose. Not to mention that it will most likely be you that is broken and bruised if he doesn't use the Taser. Quoting: SilkstalkingsI mean business too, and if I am criminally assaulted or illegally detained, I am going to act within the law to defend myself and let a jury sort it out. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1312328 United States 04/24/2011 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are misinformed. Tasers are not and have never been applied as a self defense tool. They are an offensive tool used to gain compliance, period. That has always been the implementation whether advertised as such or not. Quoting: SilkstalkingsThen their use is illegal This isn't the movies you "Rage against the machine" clown. Police Officers mean business and their lives depend on it as well as your own. If it means the difference between violating your constitutional rights (which I don't believe it does) and the officer going home in the morning without being broken and battered, then guess what he will choose. Not to mention that it will most likely be you that is broken and bruised if he doesn't use the Taser. Quoting: SilkstalkingsI mean business too, and if I am criminally assaulted or illegally detained, I am going to act within the law to defend myself and let a jury sort it out. And I am the only one that knows for sure whether I am guilty of the accused crime or not unless I was observed committing it by the arresting officer...In other words, don't tread on me and you won't go home to your family in plastic bag |
Silkstalkings User ID: 1168432 United States 04/24/2011 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are misinformed. Tasers are not and have never been applied as a self defense tool. They are an offensive tool used to gain compliance, period. That has always been the implementation whether advertised as such or not. Quoting: SilkstalkingsThen their use is illegal This isn't the movies you "Rage against the machine" clown. Police Officers mean business and their lives depend on it as well as your own. If it means the difference between violating your constitutional rights (which I don't believe it does) and the officer going home in the morning without being broken and battered, then guess what he will choose. Not to mention that it will most likely be you that is broken and bruised if he doesn't use the Taser. Quoting: SilkstalkingsI mean business too, and if I am criminally assaulted or illegally detained, I am going to act within the law to defend myself and let a jury sort it out. And I am the only one that knows for sure whether I am guilty of the accused crime or not unless I was observed committing it by the arresting officer...In other words, don't tread on me and you won't go home to your family in plastic bag So if caught red handed, would you admit that you did it? Edit The reason I ask is because most arrests are made based on PC, not a full admission. Do you know how many millions of arrests are made based on PC without actually seeing someone do the crime? Most of them. Last Edited by JesseDart on 04/24/2011 11:21 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1312328 United States 04/24/2011 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are misinformed. Tasers are not and have never been applied as a self defense tool. They are an offensive tool used to gain compliance, period. That has always been the implementation whether advertised as such or not. Quoting: SilkstalkingsThen their use is illegal This isn't the movies you "Rage against the machine" clown. Police Officers mean business and their lives depend on it as well as your own. If it means the difference between violating your constitutional rights (which I don't believe it does) and the officer going home in the morning without being broken and battered, then guess what he will choose. Not to mention that it will most likely be you that is broken and bruised if he doesn't use the Taser. Quoting: SilkstalkingsI mean business too, and if I am criminally assaulted or illegally detained, I am going to act within the law to defend myself and let a jury sort it out. And I am the only one that knows for sure whether I am guilty of the accused crime or not unless I was observed committing it by the arresting officer...In other words, don't tread on me and you won't go home to your family in plastic bag So if caught red handed, would you admit that you did it? If i were guilty whether caught red handed or not, or if the arresting officer had a warrant signed by a judge, I would not resist, because in doing so i would be in violation of the law and resisting a legal arrest. That's the way a responsible person acts. Have I made myself clear? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1312328 United States 04/24/2011 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The reason I ask is because most arrests are made based on PC, not a full admission. Do you know how many millions of arrests are made based on PC without actually seeing someone do the crime? Most of them. Quoting: SilkstalkingsArrests are made on warrants too, where a judge has reviewed the evidence of wrongdoing and decided probable cause exists. If a police officer claims probable cause, that is irrelevant until a judge decides if it was, meaning I am not bound by law to comply by his judgement at the moment.. It is shocking how little police officers actually know of the law |
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Silkstalkings User ID: 1168432 United States 04/24/2011 11:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312328Then their use is illegal ... I mean business too, and if I am criminally assaulted or illegally detained, I am going to act within the law to defend myself and let a jury sort it out. And I am the only one that knows for sure whether I am guilty of the accused crime or not unless I was observed committing it by the arresting officer...In other words, don't tread on me and you won't go home to your family in plastic bag So if caught red handed, would you admit that you did it? If i were guilty whether caught red handed or not, or if the arresting officer had a warrant signed by a judge, I would not resist, because in doing so i would be in violation of the law and resisting a legal arrest. That's the way a responsible person acts. Have I made myself clear? Yeah, I think so. The only problem is that most people who are guilty of a crime will deny it until the end. Most people are not responsible to own up to their shit when caught. |
Silkstalkings User ID: 1168432 United States 04/24/2011 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The reason I ask is because most arrests are made based on PC, not a full admission. Do you know how many millions of arrests are made based on PC without actually seeing someone do the crime? Most of them. Quoting: SilkstalkingsArrests are made on warrants too, where a judge has reviewed the evidence of wrongdoing and decided probable cause exists. If a police officer claims probable cause, that is irrelevant until a judge decides if it was, meaning I am not bound by law to comply by his judgement at the moment.. It is shocking how little police officers actually know of the law Why would you assume that Police Officers don't know about an arrest warrant? Isn't that like elementary school law? Also, why write out a warrant and get it signed by a judge when you have already established PC? Seems like a waste of time to me, but I'm no lawyer. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1312328 United States 04/24/2011 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, I think so. The only problem is that most people who are guilty of a crime will deny it until the end. Most people are not responsible to own up to their shit when caught. Quoting: SilkstalkingsYou need to make sure you realize that my contempt for abusive police officers who violate the law is in no way shape or form contempt for the law. it is in fact the opposite. I have seen people beaten down by cops for no reason all my life, on the news, on the streets, and in my own people's homes. My indignation and contempt for that behavior is not contemptuous towards the law |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1312328 United States 04/24/2011 11:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The reason I ask is because most arrests are made based on PC, not a full admission. Do you know how many millions of arrests are made based on PC without actually seeing someone do the crime? Most of them. Quoting: SilkstalkingsArrests are made on warrants too, where a judge has reviewed the evidence of wrongdoing and decided probable cause exists. If a police officer claims probable cause, that is irrelevant until a judge decides if it was, meaning I am not bound by law to comply by his judgement at the moment.. It is shocking how little police officers actually know of the law Why would you assume that Police Officers don't know about an arrest warrant? Isn't that like elementary school law? Also, why write out a warrant and get it signed by a judge when you have already established PC? Seems like a waste of time to me, but I'm no lawyer. Because it might get you killed for no good reason if the person is innocent and you're wrong, and that person is within their rights in my state to do it if you pull your gun. The arrest gone bad would probably escalate from one form of illegal use of force on up the line, most cops are quick to draw their guns . i know some of the more liberal states let cops do whatever they want, Texas isn't one of them. People here are conservative and believe in equal justice under the law. But if you're guilty, most people wouldn't give a shit if the cops beat your ass. |
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occifer friendly User ID: 1347217 United States 04/25/2011 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You ARE A FUCKING DIPSHIT SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH RIGHT NOW SHEEP. I AM SO READY FOR A FUCKING REVOLUTION WHEN ILL BE POINTING THAT RED DOT AT YOUR FUCKING FACE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1338837AND EVERYONE RAILLING ON THE GUY WHO GOT TASERED AND YOU GUYS CALLED HIM A HOTHEAD. I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS IN THE CONSTITUTION THAT YOU NEED TO SHUT UP AND DO WHAT YOUR TOLD. YOU GUYS DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO I AM. IM FUCKING 19 AND GOT HIT BY MY PARENTS AND MY SISTER CALLED THE COPS, SO I TOLD THEM TO GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY HOUSE WHEN THEY SHOWED UP BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH MY PARENTS YELLED AT ME AND HIT ME I STILL LOVE THEM AND DIDNT WANT THE FUCKING COPS FUCKING WITH THEM. BUT I END UP BEING THE ONE WHO IS FUCKED OVER. LIKE I SAID I DID NOT HIT ANYONE. BEING A HOTHEAD IS NOT REASON TO GET TASED AT 19. I GARUNTEE AT 19 YOU WERE A HOTHEAD TOO GET OFF YOUR FUCKING HIGHHORSE. BUT THEY ARE PROBABLY SHILLS. Hahahah Better get ahold of your temper there junior or the constable is gonna have to give you the juice again. 'Constable' is lucky he didn't taser my kid in my home. whether I hit the kid and he was riled up or not. He was in his own home. thats my goddamned job. I would veiw it as a criminal assault with a deadly weapon taking place in my home with out a just or logical cause. If cops can't subdue an unarmed kid with their strength, then they need to get of the fucking force ==================== Incorrect...you are the lucky one.... When the STATE ENTERS... [meaning you invited them in, by calling for them] it is no longer YOUR HOME !!! IT'S A PROBABLE CRIME SCENE, THEREFORE UNDER THEIR COMMAND AND CONTROL !!!! ........... UNTIL THEY LEAVE... at THAT POINT: COMMAND AND CONTROL IS RETURNED TO YOU. [link to www.youtube.com] ....now, whats for dinner muthafuka !!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1312328 United States 04/25/2011 04:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Incorrect...you are the lucky one.... Quoting: occifer friendly 1347217When the STATE ENTERS... [meaning you invited them in, by calling for them] it is no longer YOUR HOME !!! IT'S A PROBABLE CRIME SCENE, THEREFORE UNDER THEIR COMMAND AND CONTROL !!!! ........... UNTIL THEY LEAVE... at THAT POINT: COMMAND AND CONTROL IS RETURNED TO YOU. [link to www.youtube.com] ....now, whats for dinner muthafuka !!!! Texas here, blowhard |