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| BadHairDay User ID: 15456734 11/08/2012 09:04 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL, yeah he was the good looking cigar smokin one. ----------------------- John, on the bezerk thread, we're entertaining an idea about underground submarine caverns. I've heard of them before and I think you've mentioned it here once or twice about a pay slip of something referring to a sub base at A51 or similar. The idea we are floating revolves around creation of these caverns. I've been mentioning how oil 'reserves' are created and maintained, by dissolving and clearing large salt domes, clearing the brine, whilst filling with particular hydrocarbons. The measured brine output then determines the reserve capacity. Laughed at by 'experts' here and elsewhere, now confirmed as industry practice with the admission of reserves all over the US, most notably the butane and oil reserves at Assumtion Parish around the sink hole, that use cleared salt domes. We're linking the deep water horizon BP incident in 2010 to what is going down (litterally) at the sink hole at Assumption. The bezerk thread made mention of subs, and I used the information you gave me regarding D.D coatings to good use in explaining sub movements. But some still didnt make sense. A tunnel system does make sense. Travelling 'through' the US allows certain 'timings' to make sense. So, question is, do you know of any means of creating these tunnels? Are they man made?, Naturally occuring, or a combo, i.e. a dissolved salt cavern. Thos questioning the dissolved salt dome/vein/cavern/pillow bear in mind these things are miles across and deep, and connected. Indeed a cross sectional view of the GoM, from deep water up and through Louisianna shows a number of connected slat veins, with only the domes popping up to the surface. Easy to fit a wee sub inside. Also do you have any information on these tunnels being sealed or closed off to allow pressurising? Like an underwater loche system? Any help appreciated mate. BHD Last Edited by BadHairDay on 11/08/2012 09:06 PM It's all about the 'vibe'. |
| TheDude99 User ID: 26324660 11/10/2012 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I must admit that I'm disappointed, John. I was really hoping for your thoughts in reply to the recent (rather long) post I made about memory and the afterlife. I would have thought you'd be all over it. I am genuinely intrigued by what you have to say and only brought it up as a discussion point. But I do think it has merit, since without memory we are truly not able to retain a sense of ourselves. Anyway, I would love to hear your take on it, even if you think it may sound a bit out there. But, then again, I thought you'd be used to "out there" concepts by now. ;) Thanks again. |
| SteveJ User ID: 21803325 11/11/2012 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't vote because the Presidency is a ceremonial office and whoever is elected does what he is told. He usually gets the briefing the day after he is elected and told in no uncertain terms that this is what he is to do. "They" let him make a few 'ceremonial' decisions as if it was his idea. Allthough I agree with it being a ceremonial office... you should still vote! It is your right! I love to vote! Just ask yourself, WHO do you want being the one talking in front of our faces/TV for the next year? Obama is by far the most eloquent speaker. He shows he cares about Americans! He is a proven leader! You really think America wanted Romney and the republicans telling women what they can do with their bodies? And that their bodies can fend off a rape pregnancy? And that 47% of American's don't pay taxes, when in reality, we all pay Social Security taxes, Sales Taxes, Highway Gas Taxes, and more. The man wasn't all that intelligent. So don't sit on your duff, get out and vote at election time! |
| TheDude99 User ID: 26324660 11/12/2012 03:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is my take on past lives: Quoting: hoss58 This 3d place is the ILLUSION, your soul is here because your higher self , the real you , chose to be here. You may not reincarnate here next time . There are millions of possible places to reincarnate for lessons . You must learn to chose right for the right reason. If you remembered all your past lives (and there are many ) you would choose right for the wrong reason, it's like taking a test when you know the answers ahead of time . But there is no "you" unless you can remember. That's my point. |
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| hoss58 User ID: 23140258 11/13/2012 10:11 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is my take on past lives: Quoting: hoss58 This 3d place is the ILLUSION, your soul is here because your higher self , the real you , chose to be here. You may not reincarnate here next time . There are millions of possible places to reincarnate for lessons . You must learn to chose right for the right reason. If you remembered all your past lives (and there are many ) you would choose right for the wrong reason, it's like taking a test when you know the answers ahead of time . But there is no "you" unless you can remember. That's my point. Your higher self ,the "real you" remembers. When you die you get to see all that you did and the real you decides if you learned your lesson. The body you inhabit is not the real you . When you die you will find out that John Lear was right .....Hoss |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23628947 11/13/2012 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How come that I have the impression that you guys here are like occupying the internet, have no life at all and no proof of knowledge whatsoever and only do like write write write all those tiny letters away. You are not important. You do not mean a ting thang thohong. Do you get this? |
| TheDude99 User ID: 26324660 11/14/2012 01:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is my take on past lives: Quoting: hoss58 This 3d place is the ILLUSION, your soul is here because your higher self , the real you , chose to be here. You may not reincarnate here next time . There are millions of possible places to reincarnate for lessons . You must learn to chose right for the right reason. If you remembered all your past lives (and there are many ) you would choose right for the wrong reason, it's like taking a test when you know the answers ahead of time . But there is no "you" unless you can remember. That's my point. Your higher self ,the "real you" remembers. When you die you get to see all that you did and the real you decides if you learned your lesson. The body you inhabit is not the real you . Then the "real you" isn't "you". So, it isn't you. See? May as well be an old man in the sky. You know? |
| hoss58 User ID: 23140258 11/14/2012 06:11 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is my take on past lives: Quoting: hoss58 This 3d place is the ILLUSION, your soul is here because your higher self , the real you , chose to be here. You may not reincarnate here next time . There are millions of possible places to reincarnate for lessons . You must learn to chose right for the right reason. If you remembered all your past lives (and there are many ) you would choose right for the wrong reason, it's like taking a test when you know the answers ahead of time . But there is no "you" unless you can remember. That's my point. Your higher self ,the "real you" remembers. When you die you get to see all that you did and the real you decides if you learned your lesson. The body you inhabit is not the real you . Then the "real you" isn't "you". So, it isn't you. See? May as well be an old man in the sky. You know? We are spiritual beings having a 3d physical experience for the purpose of soul growth. When you drive a car you do not say you ARE a Ford, you say" I" drive a Ford. Same with this body we inhabit. we get in and drive and have experience.When it doesn't work anymore (death) we get another one and drive some more . The car is different but the "I" is the same . If we had the physical experience in a 3d body with all knowledge there would be no lessons learned . The 3d brain would be flooded with info and cause problems with the lesson to be learned. Between incarnations is when we decide what we want to experience in 3d. The experience has to be pure and not clouded by past lives and prior knowledge. Last Edited by hoss58 on 11/14/2012 06:13 AM When you die you will find out that John Lear was right .....Hoss |
| johnlear (OP) User ID: 13456274 11/14/2012 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi John, Quoting: TheDude99 Love this thread and have followed it from the very beginning posting now and again. Was even on the GLP voice chat with you around a year and a half ago. Something I cannot reconcile, though, with everything you are saying, is the notion of memory as it relates to death and "after death". Without it, we are not "us". I've witnessed people in altered states, with amnesia, and so on. If we have no memory of an event, then it may as well have never happened. I bring this up in reference to your point about "realizing" the truth of what you and sleeper and others are saying, but here's the issue (and the same goes for any life-after-death / eternal life notion): If, after we die, we reincarnate, and aren't allowed to remember past lives, then "we" aren't coming back being reincarnated. There is, at that point, literally nothing that is "us" that is returning. No memories means that the "energy" that we are is now just that: energy. Like an electrical current. But it is not self-aware. It cannot be, since there is no point of "I" reference. We exist as riders in this "current", not as the current itself. I know we are partly made of this current, but we are sparks of sentience within it. And if that spark isn't there, then there is no more "me" in that current, and therefore no memories, no past, no afterlife, and no experiencing anything after this world. Therefore, nothing after we die, no matter who claims it to be true. Hopefully I'm making sense here... You are trying to relate 4th dimension stuff iin 3 dimensions. Your ‘spark’ is not a spark. I have often thought about this with the many friends and family I've seen pass on. Sometimes I'll get a dream and we hang out or do something in the dream, but I cannot understand that if "they" are there in the other side, then "they" can't have reincarnated. They can't be in two places at once to experience a sense of "I", or "being-ness". Anymore than I can experience being on "the other side" as my past life incarnation right at this moment while being alive here, now... The only "me" is right here, right now. The only way any afterlife can exist is if we are allowed to remember it. Because if we can't, then it doesn't exist. Like a dream we can never remember. Wiped clean before every incarnation. If we don't remember the experience then we'll never know if you, or Jesus, or Santa, or anyone, was right. We won't even remember judging ourselves, if that is even what happens! You exist whether you are walking around earth or in that little box in outer space where they keep some of us for some reason. There are umpty ump trillions of those little boxes in outer space filled with umpty ump trillions of our souls or “us”. Whitley Streiber talked about the ‘boxes’ once and that he was made to ‘feel’ what it was like to be in the little boxes. I say ‘little’ but I really don’t know in 3d how big the boxes are. As ‘Sleeper’ writes: Lee took me into a room in the ship that connected with a star system many light years from earth. On one of the large planets that circled near its sun I saw thousands of large black cubes pulsating and fluctuating in size while keeping their cube shape. It was a time vault with every detail of planet earth from the moment I was placed on the planet to the present, and my future while on earth. It just doesn't add up. I want to believe, and I want to think that we continue on (and I mean "we" as in the identity of a "self", or "I", not just a mindless current that keeps reincarnating). But the only way "we" can really continue on, whether I'm an energy or a body, is by having a sense of "self" or "I" in relationship to something (anything) else. Nope. If we aren't "something", then there is no "I", no memories, no "soul" other than the "current" (like an electrical current, a "soul current", if you will). If that is the case, then there is no everlasting life, since life is defined by a sense of individuality, a sense of "self", a sense of "I". If not, then when we die, we are gone, done. No memories, no "self", because when (if) we return to Earth, that is all forgotten, and if it is all forgotten, then it is as though it never was. Quoting: TheDude99 Nope. I hate to sound like a cynic, and I really do want to believe, but I need to apply some critical thinking to this, and when I do, I just cannot get past this point in the reasoning of it. It is like the movie Groundhog Day but without him remembering anything and going through everything again for the first time. Every time. Makes me alternately a little scared about death and then a bit apathetic, since nobody can really say, and the logic doesn't seem to hold up. If when I die, I'm really gone forever, with no future memory of this life, that is awful. Since the "me" will either be on the other side about to have his mind wiped before reincarnating, or I will stay on the other side, with my memories intact, just waiting to get his mind wiped in case I end up reincarnating for some reason (against my will?). Quite frankly, that is all a bit freaky and daunting and not at all very comforting, heh. Am I missing something? (I actually hope I am!) Quoting: TheDude99 Yes. But not to worry. Its none of your business, as it is none of all of our business. Welcome. Live your life with integrity; and without envy hate or greed. Express your love to your family every day. Thats all you have to do in this life other than doing things you like to do. |
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| TheDude99 User ID: 26324660 11/14/2012 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi John, Quoting: TheDude99 Love this thread and have followed it from the very beginning posting now and again. Was even on the GLP voice chat with you around a year and a half ago. Something I cannot reconcile, though, with everything you are saying, is the notion of memory as it relates to death and "after death". Without it, we are not "us". I've witnessed people in altered states, with amnesia, and so on. If we have no memory of an event, then it may as well have never happened. I bring this up in reference to your point about "realizing" the truth of what you and sleeper and others are saying, but here's the issue (and the same goes for any life-after-death / eternal life notion): If, after we die, we reincarnate, and aren't allowed to remember past lives, then "we" aren't coming back being reincarnated. There is, at that point, literally nothing that is "us" that is returning. No memories means that the "energy" that we are is now just that: energy. Like an electrical current. But it is not self-aware. It cannot be, since there is no point of "I" reference. We exist as riders in this "current", not as the current itself. I know we are partly made of this current, but we are sparks of sentience within it. And if that spark isn't there, then there is no more "me" in that current, and therefore no memories, no past, no afterlife, and no experiencing anything after this world. Therefore, nothing after we die, no matter who claims it to be true. Hopefully I'm making sense here... You are trying to relate 4th dimension stuff iin 3 dimensions. Your ‘spark’ is not a spark. I have often thought about this with the many friends and family I've seen pass on. Sometimes I'll get a dream and we hang out or do something in the dream, but I cannot understand that if "they" are there in the other side, then "they" can't have reincarnated. They can't be in two places at once to experience a sense of "I", or "being-ness". Anymore than I can experience being on "the other side" as my past life incarnation right at this moment while being alive here, now... The only "me" is right here, right now. The only way any afterlife can exist is if we are allowed to remember it. Because if we can't, then it doesn't exist. Like a dream we can never remember. Wiped clean before every incarnation. If we don't remember the experience then we'll never know if you, or Jesus, or Santa, or anyone, was right. We won't even remember judging ourselves, if that is even what happens! You exist whether you are walking around earth or in that little box in outer space where they keep some of us for some reason. There are umpty ump trillions of those little boxes in outer space filled with umpty ump trillions of our souls or “us”. Whitley Streiber talked about the ‘boxes’ once and that he was made to ‘feel’ what it was like to be in the little boxes. I say ‘little’ but I really don’t know in 3d how big the boxes are. As ‘Sleeper’ writes: Lee took me into a room in the ship that connected with a star system many light years from earth. On one of the large planets that circled near its sun I saw thousands of large black cubes pulsating and fluctuating in size while keeping their cube shape. It was a time vault with every detail of planet earth from the moment I was placed on the planet to the present, and my future while on earth. It just doesn't add up. I want to believe, and I want to think that we continue on (and I mean "we" as in the identity of a "self", or "I", not just a mindless current that keeps reincarnating). But the only way "we" can really continue on, whether I'm an energy or a body, is by having a sense of "self" or "I" in relationship to something (anything) else. Nope. If we aren't "something", then there is no "I", no memories, no "soul" other than the "current" (like an electrical current, a "soul current", if you will). If that is the case, then there is no everlasting life, since life is defined by a sense of individuality, a sense of "self", a sense of "I". If not, then when we die, we are gone, done. No memories, no "self", because when (if) we return to Earth, that is all forgotten, and if it is all forgotten, then it is as though it never was. Quoting: TheDude99 Nope. I hate to sound like a cynic, and I really do want to believe, but I need to apply some critical thinking to this, and when I do, I just cannot get past this point in the reasoning of it. It is like the movie Groundhog Day but without him remembering anything and going through everything again for the first time. Every time. Makes me alternately a little scared about death and then a bit apathetic, since nobody can really say, and the logic doesn't seem to hold up. If when I die, I'm really gone forever, with no future memory of this life, that is awful. Since the "me" will either be on the other side about to have his mind wiped before reincarnating, or I will stay on the other side, with my memories intact, just waiting to get his mind wiped in case I end up reincarnating for some reason (against my will?). Quite frankly, that is all a bit freaky and daunting and not at all very comforting, heh. Am I missing something? (I actually hope I am!) Quoting: TheDude99 Yes. But not to worry. Its none of your business, as it is none of all of our business. Welcome. Thanks for the reply. I still don't follow the logic, though, sorry to say! :) Please bear with me once more. I just want to understand. If "we" are a "higher self" who drives a body, and we never get to "be" that higher self, nor get to experience being the higher self, then we aren't that higher self. This is defined as consciousness, or awareness. It can't be in two places at once. It is an external being that judges us (sounds a lot like "God"). And if we don't remember any lifetimes, and if we never get to experience being our higher self, then we are the being who continually gets his mind wiped. Which means we're only ever going to remember the life we're currently living. It is important to me to apply critical thinking to these kinds of subjects. I've thought it through as deeply and logically as I can. Frankly, what you're saying sounds more akin to religion than anything else (external judgement - and I say "external" because apparently the higher self is a different "I" than the body who just lived - and that body who just lived was an "I" who made different decisions than the higher self would). Therefore, two beings. And if two beings, and you don't get to experience being the higher self, but are merely being judged by it, it is two consciousnesses. And if it is two consciousness (the judge and the subject), then we cannot be both. And if we cannot be both, then we are the subject. Who gets his mind wiped repeatedly. Sounds pretty bleak to me... I love this thread and respect you, John, but this one just doesn't hold water, as far as I can tell. I want to understand, but I just don't see how it is logically possible. Help me understand? Thanks again. |
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| avanti.pensatore User ID: 27790533 11/15/2012 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey John, I have been following you online for a long time. I'm a big fan. I say that with much admiration and respect. I have a question, do you know if Reptilians exist? Any truth to the rumors the British Royal Family, George HW Bush are Reptilians?? I feel sort of foolish asking this question but my son-in-law brought it up several times and I simply don't know what to make of it. Thank you. |
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| avanti.pensatore User ID: 27790533 11/16/2012 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I watched the Camelot Project video interviews of you back in 2007 and 2008. In one of the interviews you describe the Dulce War or Massacre. A Gray is giving a class or briefing to a room full or scientists and a member of the Delta Force accidentally enters the classroom with a weapon and the Gray reacts by killing everyone in the room. Then the Delta Force team of the first member who entered the classroom responds and they are also killed. Could you elaborate? Did the Gray have a hand weapon? Or do the Grays possess the mental ability to kill humans at will? How did the one Gray manage to kill everyone? Whistleblowers rarely describe weapons used by the Grays. Thank you. |
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| hoss58 User ID: 23140258 11/17/2012 11:26 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey John , hows the millimeter count on the wound closure going this weekend ?Hope it is a big number . Question : Do you think there was more than one team of shooters at Dealy plaza, one taking pot shots at the limo and one actually there to get the job done ? P.S. check your pm's, you know where !! When you die you will find out that John Lear was right .....Hoss |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26198632 11/17/2012 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John, hows your health these days? I notice you're not posting as much as you used to, hope all is well with you. Anything in the news catching your eye these days? Anything NOT in the news piquing your interest? Here's hoping we are both on our last ride on planet earth...I am slowly losing my get-up-and-go as geezerhood is overtaking me. Looking back I can't believe I did all the things I did...no more energy to start new projects. Reading is about as exciting as it gets these days. I still recall wondering about your theory of the giant soul-sucker on th moon and if it could be true and all the snipers on that other site. Wonder if they are still spending their energy doing the same (probably). What a long strange trip it's been. Mike Klotz |
| snake.plissken User ID: 18821294 11/17/2012 08:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hi john, i hope you and your wife are well, and wish you both a loving and happy thanksgiving together... heartfelt pleasantries aside, i'd like to point out that i'm surprised there hasn't been more of a buzz regarding the latest episode of jesse ventura's conspiracy theory show, "death ray". i found it groundbreaking, in the sense that some of the very people and beliefs we talk about on this thread, were provided a legitimate shot (even after editing) at explaining the basis of their theories [read dr. judy wood and the dustification of the twin towers], as well as the appropriate credence given by the show's objective investigators, as the facts that were laid out before them. jesse started by interviewing fr3d b3ll (who "died" in his hotel room, while on-location, the morning after filming his segment), michael pravica (expert on tesla tech), lt. col. thomas bearden (who wouldn't appear on camera & called the cops), william lyne, john hutchinson and dr. judy wood. while trutv sat on releasing this new season of jesse's show, they finally did so recently, and this particular episode was the best of the series, thus far, in my opinion. we're seeing people like former governor jesse ventura change his mind from nano-thermite to DEWs, while speaking on camera with dr. wood re the WTC op on 911. there was also some demonstrative graphic animation of the much-smaller than expected amount of a debris pile (had the buildings actually collapsed or been brought down by a more conventional controlled demo) at the WTC site, and it was phenomenal to see. they also showed some of the seismic evidence. this new national attention to DEWs, being directly connected to 911, can only be looked at positively, unless we're to consider more wet work being carried out against those bringing the evidence forward. questions: 1) did you see the show, and if not, will you have a look and give me your take? [link to www.youtube.com] if the above YT link gets taken down, try this one: [link to powervideotube.com] 2) had you ever met fr3d b3ll, did you find him credible and/or do you believe he was killed over his talking to jesse on camera about this subject? 3) had you ever heard of or met william lyne, who lives in new mexico? he talks about the government targeting him with some type of DEW that burned his skin and caused him to keep away from certain parts of his house. this reminded me of things you have said about your home. is there any correlation? 4) do you think there will be any further blowback for people like ventura, his crew, pravica, lyne, hutchinson or wood, due to the attention this show is getting? 5) do u think this show will get pulled from re-running, like was done with the "police state" episode from last season or can u come up with a reason why it was allowed to be aired in the first place? are things changing, in the direction we'd like to see, or am i reading too-much into this? you can see a write-up of the show here: [link to www.disinfo.com] thanks in advance, for any insight you may be able to provide on the above questions. best regards, snake PS. had trouble posting this... tried 4 or 5 times, it would look like it submitted, but not show up in the thread. i finally was able to do so, by simply entering 1 line of text, then editing my post to include the above. PPShh... perhaps it's the name fr3d b3ll, which, when spelled correctly with e's instead of 3's, is getting replaced with "not here" (sans quotes)? ... wtf? ... is this censorship by glp, and if so, why? something stinks here, and with this in mind, i'm considering not posting, again. i have your email, mine is snake.plissken911@gmail.com. i have also attempted to bring to your attention, a video of dulce recorded on one of the levels with the cages, in this thread... but u either missed it or didn't have a comment. would like to discuss, if there's an interest. Last Edited by snake.plissken on 11/18/2012 06:35 AM |
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