Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 2,218 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 813,652
Pageviews Today: 1,067,906Threads Today: 266Posts Today: 3,888
09:02 AM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!

 
Life and Love

User ID: 1324426
United States
06/03/2011 03:28 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
I would post my method to a thread, but I try to keep my ideas and experiences limited to those who ask. So PM was my preferred method. I find it can cheapen my experiences if I throw them out and have angry people become involved.
 Quoting: Scrodiddles


I appreciate the reply. I'm sure OP can relate to what happens when "angry people" become involves. hf
We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely.
Scrodiddles

User ID: 1354629
United States
06/03/2011 03:28 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
Just for the record, I used to be heavily into meditation, reincarnation and all that garbage.

I underwent past life regression hypnosis, and so did my mother.

Guess what happened? NOTHING! Neither of us saw anything!

I thought maybe something was wrong with me because I read books about all of these "great past life regression sessions" where people saw all of their previous lives and all that BS. When I googled it, I found out that most other regular people who underwent it also saw NOTHING. I fully expected to experience all of my previous lives......NOTHING. The disappointment was incredible, both for me and my mom.

I also tried to meet my "spirit guide" many many times........nobody showed up.

I tried to "astral travel".........I didn't go anywhere.


I also did a meditation where you go into the halls of learning and read your books and the akashic records........I saw nothing, read nothing, and met nobody.

I tried and tried and tried and tried.......for a long time. NOTHING EVER HAPPENED.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm glad nothing happened to me because it probably would have pulled me in deeper if it had. But, I found absolutely 0% proof of that stuff, and when I turned to Jesus things really started popping in my life, prayers were answered, miracles happened, and I was filled with the Holy Spirit.

Proof is in the pudding.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I hear a lot of people fail in attempts to travel inward and then proclaim that it is "better that way". I have experience what it is like to not effectively meditate and I can tell you that it is not "better that way". I know both sides of the coin. I prefer the one where my body, mind and beliefs (that others instilled in me) are not prisons. Failing at something and then becoming angry at those who succeed is not going to change the fact that you failed.
I am in search of Truth, but still emptying my cup.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 1106916
United States
06/03/2011 03:30 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
Just for the record, I used to be heavily into meditation, reincarnation and all that garbage.

I underwent past life regression hypnosis, and so did my mother.

Guess what happened? NOTHING! Neither of us saw anything!

I thought maybe something was wrong with me because I read books about all of these "great past life regression sessions" where people saw all of their previous lives and all that BS. When I googled it, I found out that most other regular people who underwent it also saw NOTHING. I fully expected to experience all of my previous lives......NOTHING. The disappointment was incredible, both for me and my mom.

I also tried to meet my "spirit guide" many many times........nobody showed up.

I tried to "astral travel".........I didn't go anywhere.


I also did a meditation where you go into the halls of learning and read your books and the akashic records........I saw nothing, read nothing, and met nobody.

I tried and tried and tried and tried.......for a long time. NOTHING EVER HAPPENED.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm glad nothing happened to me because it probably would have pulled me in deeper if it had. But, I found absolutely 0% proof of that stuff, and when I turned to Jesus things really started popping in my life, prayers were answered, miracles happened, and I was filled with the Holy Spirit.

Proof is in the pudding.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I hear a lot of people fail in attempts to travel inward and then proclaim that it is "better that way". I have experience what it is like to not effectively meditate and I can tell you that it is not "better that way". I know both sides of the coin. I prefer the one where my body, mind and beliefs (that others instilled in me) are not prisons. Failing at something and then becoming angry at those who succeed is not going to change the fact that you failed.
 Quoting: Scrodiddles


I didn't fail at it, I was protected from it.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 865798
United States
06/03/2011 03:31 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
Just for the record, I used to be heavily into meditation, reincarnation and all that garbage.

I underwent past life regression hypnosis, and so did my mother.

Guess what happened? NOTHING! Neither of us saw anything!

I thought maybe something was wrong with me because I read books about all of these "great past life regression sessions" where people saw all of their previous lives and all that BS. When I googled it, I found out that most other regular people who underwent it also saw NOTHING.

I also tried to meet my "spirit guide" many many times........nobody showed up.

I tried to "astral travel".........I didn't go anywhere.


I also did a meditation where you go into the halls of learning and read your books and the akashic records........I saw nothing, read nothing, and met nobody.

I tried and tried and tried and tried.......for a long time. NOTHING EVER HAPPENED.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm glad nothing happened to me because it probably would have pulled me in deeper if it had. But, I found absolutely 0% proof of that stuff, and when I turned to Jesus things really started popping in my life, prayers were answered, miracles happened, and I was filled with the Holy Spirit.

Proof is in the pudding.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


That's too bad nothing happened. You would have experienced Truth, instead of believing all this nonsense that you do now.

Or, maybe something did happen. A demon DID get inside of you. Wiped your memory out, and now the demon leads you on a quest to steer people wrongly into believing that YOUR WAY is the only right way.
 Quoting: SickScent


LOL! Nothing could be further from the truth! Quite the opposite in fact!
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


chuckle

thumbs
Scrodiddles

User ID: 1354629
United States
06/03/2011 03:31 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
I would post my method to a thread, but I try to keep my ideas and experiences limited to those who ask. So PM was my preferred method. I find it can cheapen my experiences if I throw them out and have angry people become involved.
 Quoting: Scrodiddles


I appreciate the reply. I'm sure OP can relate to what happens when "angry people" become involves. hf
 Quoting: Life and Love


Perhaps, but the OP is projecting out her ideas so the consequence of that will always be the probability that disagreements will ensue. My experiences remain personal and untainted. The OP may choose that method someday or not. It depends on if she enjoys the conflict.
I am in search of Truth, but still emptying my cup.
FinalCountdown

User ID: 1405947
United States
06/03/2011 03:33 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
FYI.....evangelical xtianity was considered "New Age" at one point....just food for thought
"Women who seek equality with men lack ambition."
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 1106916
United States
06/03/2011 03:34 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
FYI.....evangelical xtianity was considered "New Age" at one point....just food for thought
 Quoting: FinalCountdown


No, it was never considered "new age". It was considered different from what the Jews believed and practiced, but it was certainly not considered new age and pagan.
Scrodiddles

User ID: 1354629
United States
06/03/2011 03:35 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
Just for the record, I used to be heavily into meditation, reincarnation and all that garbage.

I underwent past life regression hypnosis, and so did my mother.

Guess what happened? NOTHING! Neither of us saw anything!

I thought maybe something was wrong with me because I read books about all of these "great past life regression sessions" where people saw all of their previous lives and all that BS. When I googled it, I found out that most other regular people who underwent it also saw NOTHING. I fully expected to experience all of my previous lives......NOTHING. The disappointment was incredible, both for me and my mom.

I also tried to meet my "spirit guide" many many times........nobody showed up.

I tried to "astral travel".........I didn't go anywhere.


I also did a meditation where you go into the halls of learning and read your books and the akashic records........I saw nothing, read nothing, and met nobody.

I tried and tried and tried and tried.......for a long time. NOTHING EVER HAPPENED.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm glad nothing happened to me because it probably would have pulled me in deeper if it had. But, I found absolutely 0% proof of that stuff, and when I turned to Jesus things really started popping in my life, prayers were answered, miracles happened, and I was filled with the Holy Spirit.

Proof is in the pudding.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I hear a lot of people fail in attempts to travel inward and then proclaim that it is "better that way". I have experience what it is like to not effectively meditate and I can tell you that it is not "better that way". I know both sides of the coin. I prefer the one where my body, mind and beliefs (that others instilled in me) are not prisons. Failing at something and then becoming angry at those who succeed is not going to change the fact that you failed.
 Quoting: Scrodiddles


I didn't fail at it, I was protected from it.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa



Lisa, most spiritual awakenings happen when a person has a true, original thought. It can be anything really. But birthing something in the mind that has absolutely no connection or influence from outside stimuli is generally what it takes for a "realization". Nothing you describe is original to you. You are parroting other people's thoughts and writings. If you reflect (which means attempting meditation again) you may find yourself surprised to find that you have not yet birthed an original idea that can't be traced to some outside origin. You are a product of everything around you right now. Freedom is creating yourself from the inside-out and not from the outside-in.

Last Edited by Scrodiddles on 06/03/2011 03:37 PM
I am in search of Truth, but still emptying my cup.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 1106916
United States
06/03/2011 03:35 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
YAHWEH strictly warned people against paganism. Jesus strictly warned people against paganism.

Paganism is still very dangerous, evil and unclean today. Nothing has changed.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1413160
United States
06/03/2011 03:36 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
I get a kick out of the christians who call other people nutjobs for their beliefs.. I am not a new ager but I sure as hell am not going to let a religion tell me how I am going to find salvation.. Christians believe in some night club in the sky that requires a lifetime of service to some gaseous vertabrae of cosmic proportion in order to gain entrance.. No thank you..

You Are God.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1406333
United States
06/03/2011 03:38 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
YAHWEH strictly warned people against paganism. Jesus strictly warned people against paganism.

Paganism is still very dangerous, evil and unclean today. Nothing has changed.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


How is Paganism unclean?
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 1106916
United States
06/03/2011 03:39 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
YAHWEH strictly warned people against paganism. Jesus strictly warned people against paganism.

Paganism is still very dangerous, evil and unclean today. Nothing has changed.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


How is Paganism unclean?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1406333


Because it's communicating and interacting with with unclean spirits, which we call demons.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1389638
United States
06/03/2011 03:39 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
ok, first of all. Your deception is in the church. The new testament was put together by a political leader named constantine. He was a Roman empire. by 324 AD the book was ready. When the Bible says that saten will come out of the church, thats exactly what it means. Look at the Vatican, look at the pope. the lies are being revealed. For one thing the word God is a miss translation from the word Gaad meaning wealth. Have you even studied who put together that little book called the bible. The stories were chosen from all the libraries in the 4th centurie. After that Contantine ordered all the other books to be burned. He didnt want people to know what was really taught. Anyhow, the ones he sent to burn the books didnt have the heart so they burried them or put them in jars.

Did you know Adams generation started with Seth, so if Eve had Able and cane before seth, who was there father, not Adam.

Lets create man in ""our"" image. hmmm its plural.


I said "ye are Gods" PSALM 82:6

have you researched the book you read, it didnt fall from heaven it was put together by mans hand. deceptive ones at that.

Jesus said I will be with you until the end of the Age. The fish symbol is the Pisces. We are moving into Aquarius weather you like it our not.

The religius movement is dangerous and a lie and its about to end.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1400367
United States
06/03/2011 03:41 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
If your beliefs contains at least one of the following, it can be traced back to the writings of Aleister Crowley and/or Alice Bailey. Please do research on this. It is a mindset that will help pave the way for the acceptance of the Antichrist and the one world belief system. These are all pro-NWO beliefs:

- All is one, all reality is part of the whole.
- Everything is God and God is everything.
- Man is God or a part of God, or can be like God if you do certain things.
- Man never dies, but continues to live through reincarnation.
- Man can create his own reality and/or values through transformed consciousness or altered states of consciousness.
- The use of mediums are good, and are needed to achieve some kind of purpose.
- There is a coming age of enlightenment or evolution of humanity.
- There are certain people holding us back from evolution.
- That aliens are somehow our genetic ancestors and we can become like them.
- That magic, and occult practices are good.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1406333
United States
06/03/2011 03:41 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
YAHWEH strictly warned people against paganism. Jesus strictly warned people against paganism.

Paganism is still very dangerous, evil and unclean today. Nothing has changed.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


How is Paganism unclean?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1406333


Because it's communicating and interacting with with unclean spirits, which we call demons.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Really? Which unclean spirits are you referring to?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1342725
United States
06/03/2011 03:42 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
Look I was "christian" as a child and I saw how unhappy everyone was; always talking and trials and tribulations instead of heaven on earth..

A bad environment to be in.

I've been meditating since I was little and if that's what you mean by "new age movement" then you're wrong completely haha.

Me focusing on breath and subsequently zoning out into pure BLISS at a seconds notice is the greatest gift you can ever teach someone.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1342725
United States
06/03/2011 03:44 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
ah if the new age movement is a religious cult type thing than that's really just as dumb as christianity.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 1106916
United States
06/03/2011 03:46 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
ok, first of all. Your deception is in the church. The new testament was put together by a political leader named constantine. He was a Roman empire. by 324 AD the book was ready. When the Bible says that saten will come out of the church, thats exactly what it means. Look at the Vatican, look at the pope. the lies are being revealed. For one thing the word God is a miss translation from the word Gaad meaning wealth. Have you even studied who put together that little book called the bible. The stories were chosen from all the libraries in the 4th centurie. After that Contantine ordered all the other books to be burned. He didnt want people to know what was really taught. Anyhow, the ones he sent to burn the books didnt have the heart so they burried them or put them in jars.

Did you know Adams generation started with Seth, so if Eve had Able and cane before seth, who was there father, not Adam.

Lets create man in ""our"" image. hmmm its plural.


I said "ye are Gods" PSALM 82:6

have you researched the book you read, it didnt fall from heaven it was put together by mans hand. deceptive ones at that.

Jesus said I will be with you until the end of the Age. The fish symbol is the Pisces. We are moving into Aquarius weather you like it our not.

The religius movement is dangerous and a lie and its about to end.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1389638


Yes, I know it's plural, the Father and the Son created us, I thought everyone knew that basic thing.

Yes, I know Christianity is about to end, Jesus told us it would. He said that we would be hated on account of His name, we would be persecuted and killed for it. He also said that He would be coming back to avenge our blood after we are all murdered by satan and his followers. It's all written in black and white in the Bible, we know our fate.

And, the saddest thing is that alot of you will rejoice when we are killed, because you know not what you do. But, our souls will be saved and all those that followed satan and went along with his program will be judged accordingly.

These aren't my words, it's in the Bible, anyone can read it for themselves. The only question is, what side of the fence are you going to be on?

It's a fact, take it to the bank, He's coming back, and it's soon.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1406333
United States
06/03/2011 03:47 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
If your beliefs contains at least one of the following, it can be traced back to the writings of Aleister Crowley and/or Alice Bailey. Please do research on this. It is a mindset that will help pave the way for the acceptance of the Antichrist and the one world belief system. These are all pro-NWO beliefs:

- All is one, all reality is part of the whole.
- Everything is God and God is everything.
- Man is God or a part of God, or can be like God if you do certain things.
- Man never dies, but continues to live through reincarnation.
- Man can create his own reality and/or values through transformed consciousness or altered states of consciousness.
- The use of mediums are good, and are needed to achieve some kind of purpose.
- There is a coming age of enlightenment or evolution of humanity.
- There are certain people holding us back from evolution.
- That aliens are somehow our genetic ancestors and we can become like them.
- That magic, and occult practices are good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1400367


Reincarnation can be traced back to Aleister Crowley and/or Alice Bailey? Actually, belief in reincarnation goes back thousands of years, back before Christianity.

You are either poorly educated or you are shilling for an agenda. Which is it?
Ghost#7

User ID: 1411579
United States
06/03/2011 03:48 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
Didnt watch the vids, but i agree with the thread title. bad Cult, is bad.gh0s7
There is No easy path from the earth to the stars..
By wind a fire is fed, by wind a fire is extinguished..
Grant Us Peace.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 1106916
United States
06/03/2011 03:48 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
If your beliefs contains at least one of the following, it can be traced back to the writings of Aleister Crowley and/or Alice Bailey. Please do research on this. It is a mindset that will help pave the way for the acceptance of the Antichrist and the one world belief system. These are all pro-NWO beliefs:

- All is one, all reality is part of the whole.
- Everything is God and God is everything.
- Man is God or a part of God, or can be like God if you do certain things.
- Man never dies, but continues to live through reincarnation.
- Man can create his own reality and/or values through transformed consciousness or altered states of consciousness.
- The use of mediums are good, and are needed to achieve some kind of purpose.
- There is a coming age of enlightenment or evolution of humanity.
- There are certain people holding us back from evolution.
- That aliens are somehow our genetic ancestors and we can become like them.
- That magic, and occult practices are good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1400367


Some people might be surprised to find out that Hitler was a big time new ager. He followed the writings, doctrines and teachings of Helena Blavatsky......the mother of the pagan new age movement and all of it's pure satanic origin.
FinalCountdown

User ID: 1405947
United States
06/03/2011 03:49 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
FYI.....evangelical xtianity was considered "New Age" at one point....just food for thought
 Quoting: FinalCountdown


No, it was never considered "new age". It was considered different from what the Jews believed and practiced, but it was certainly not considered new age and pagan.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Evangelical xtianity was considered a heresy (which basically means beliefs that are not popular at the time)....New Agers get lumped together to include not only pagan folk, but professing xtians (Joel Osteen is a good example) that don't toe the line and introduce new ideas(hence New Age)in a religion....

Today's evangelical baloney would have been seen as sinful, new age, and "cultish" even as early as as the 40's and 50's....

Need to look at the time in which you are living...how many xtians are "rotting in hell" (in evangelicals' opinions) because they didn't believe what the evangelicals believe today?
"Women who seek equality with men lack ambition."
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1406333
United States
06/03/2011 03:50 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
ok, first of all. Your deception is in the church. The new testament was put together by a political leader named constantine. He was a Roman empire. by 324 AD the book was ready. When the Bible says that saten will come out of the church, thats exactly what it means. Look at the Vatican, look at the pope. the lies are being revealed. For one thing the word God is a miss translation from the word Gaad meaning wealth. Have you even studied who put together that little book called the bible. The stories were chosen from all the libraries in the 4th centurie. After that Contantine ordered all the other books to be burned. He didnt want people to know what was really taught. Anyhow, the ones he sent to burn the books didnt have the heart so they burried them or put them in jars.

Did you know Adams generation started with Seth, so if Eve had Able and cane before seth, who was there father, not Adam.

Lets create man in ""our"" image. hmmm its plural.


I said "ye are Gods" PSALM 82:6

have you researched the book you read, it didnt fall from heaven it was put together by mans hand. deceptive ones at that.

Jesus said I will be with you until the end of the Age. The fish symbol is the Pisces. We are moving into Aquarius weather you like it our not.

The religius movement is dangerous and a lie and its about to end.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1389638


Yes, I know it's plural, the Father and the Son created us, I thought everyone knew that basic thing.

Yes, I know Christianity is about to end, Jesus told us it would. He said that we would be hated on account of His name, we would be persecuted and killed for it. He also said that He would be coming back to avenge our blood after we are all murdered by satan and his followers. It's all written in black and white in the Bible, we know our fate.

And, the saddest thing is that alot of you will rejoice when we are killed, because you know not what you do. But, our souls will be saved and all those that followed satan and went along with his program will be judged accordingly.

These aren't my words, it's in the Bible, anyone can read it for themselves. The only question is, what side of the fence are you going to be on?

It's a fact, take it to the bank, He's coming back, and it's soon.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


How soon, Lisa? 1 year? 5 years? 50 years? 1,000 years?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1400367
United States
06/03/2011 03:51 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
New Age deals in experiences and feelings instead of absolutes and truth.

The old paradigm taught that if you had the right teaching, you will experience God. The new paradigm says that if you experience God, you will have the right teaching." (Leith Anderson) Therefore all Satan has to do is give one a strange expeience and he or she will not question the source, and assume it came from God. It's based on exciting the senses and make people feel like they're having a 'God' experience. Emergent 'churches' use multi-sensory worship; it is designed to bombard the senses of sight, smell, touch, taste and hearing. This sensory overload makes you feel a certain way, and causes you to incline to trust and absorb the teaching, however dark it may be.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 725371
United States
06/03/2011 03:52 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
...man I wish one of you would teach me how to do this astral traveling...I think I was about there once but it got away from me!?
 Quoting: Scrodiddles


I would be more than happy to teach you. Shoot me a private message if you are truly interested.


I think I'm unable as a lowly non-paying member, but I can shoot you an email to the addy in you profile?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 725371
United States
06/03/2011 03:53 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!

...


Very, very well stated, Scrodiddles...

 Quoting: Scrodiddles



...man I wish one of you would teach me how to do this astral traveling...I think I was about there once but it got away from me!?
 Quoting: SickScent


Phizzy, you can PM me as well. Don't mean to step on Scro, but I don't think he will mind.
 Quoting: phizzycyst



Cool! I got two "gurus"! I got your email, I'll shoot you one also! Thanks bro!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1400367
United States
06/03/2011 03:54 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
If your beliefs contains at least one of the following, it can be traced back to the writings of Aleister Crowley and/or Alice Bailey. Please do research on this. It is a mindset that will help pave the way for the acceptance of the Antichrist and the one world belief system. These are all pro-NWO beliefs:

- All is one, all reality is part of the whole.
- Everything is God and God is everything.
- Man is God or a part of God, or can be like God if you do certain things.
- Man never dies, but continues to live through reincarnation.
- Man can create his own reality and/or values through transformed consciousness or altered states of consciousness.
- The use of mediums are good, and are needed to achieve some kind of purpose.
- There is a coming age of enlightenment or evolution of humanity.
- There are certain people holding us back from evolution.
- That aliens are somehow our genetic ancestors and we can become like them.
- That magic, and occult practices are good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1400367


Reincarnation can be traced back to Aleister Crowley and/or Alice Bailey? Actually, belief in reincarnation goes back thousands of years, back before Christianity.

You are either poorly educated or you are shilling for an agenda. Which is it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1406333


Reincarnation was popularized in Western culture by Crowley, Bailey, Blavatsky and others. Before them, reincarnation was hardly known in the Western world.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 865798
United States
06/03/2011 03:57 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
If your beliefs contains at least one of the following, it can be traced back to the writings of Aleister Crowley and/or Alice Bailey. Please do research on this. It is a mindset that will help pave the way for the acceptance of the Antichrist and the one world belief system. These are all pro-NWO beliefs:

- All is one, all reality is part of the whole.
- Everything is God and God is everything.
- Man is God or a part of God, or can be like God if you do certain things.
- Man never dies, but continues to live through reincarnation.
- Man can create his own reality and/or values through transformed consciousness or altered states of consciousness.
- The use of mediums are good, and are needed to achieve some kind of purpose.
- There is a coming age of enlightenment or evolution of humanity.
- There are certain people holding us back from evolution.
- That aliens are somehow our genetic ancestors and we can become like them.
- That magic, and occult practices are good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1400367


Reincarnation can be traced back to Aleister Crowley and/or Alice Bailey? Actually, belief in reincarnation goes back thousands of years, back before Christianity.

You are either poorly educated or you are shilling for an agenda. Which is it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1406333


Reincarnation was popularized in Western culture by Crowley, Bailey, Blavatsky and others. Before them, reincarnation was hardly known in the Western world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1400367


FFS, you so full of it.

Origins

The origins of the notion of reincarnation are obscure. They apparently date to the Iron Age ( around 1200 BC ). Discussion of the subject appears in the philosophical traditions of India and Greece from about the 6th century BC, but is conspicuously absent from the earlier Vedic texts of India.[citation needed].Also during the Iron Age, the Greek Pre-Socratics discussed reincarnation, and the Celtic Druids are also reported to have taught a doctrine of reincarnation.[16]

The origin of the Indian tradition is usually assumed to lie in the non-Vedic sramana traditions, which would explain why it only enters the historical record with the adoption of sramana elements into mainstream Brahmin orthodoxy at the end of the Vedic period.[17][18] along with the associated concepts of karma, samsara and moksha.[19] Some scholars suggest that the idea is original to the Buddha.[20] Another possibility is an origin in the native tribal religions of the pre-Indo-Aryan Ganges valley, or in prehistoric Dravidian traditions of South India.[21]

Whatever its ultimate origin, Indian discussion of reincarnation enters the historical record from about the 6th century BC, with the development of the Vedantic tradition, in the early Upanishads (around the middle of the first millennium BC), Gautam Buddha (5th century BC)[22] as well as Mahavir the Tirthankar of Jainism.[23]

Early Greek discussion of the concept likewise dates to the 6th century BC. An early Greek thinker known to have considered rebirth is Pherecydes of Syros (fl. 540 BC).[24] His younger contemporary Pythagoras (c. 570-c. 495 BC[25]), its first famous exponent, instituted societies for its diffusion. Plato (428/427 BC – 348/347 BC) presented accounts of reincarnation in his works, particularly the Myth of Er.

Proponents of cultural transmission have looked for links between Iron Age Celtic, Greek and Vedic philosophy and religion, [26] some[who?] even suggesting that belief in reincarnation was present in Proto-Indo-European religion.[dubious – discuss][27] Authorities have not agreed on how the notion arose in Greece: sometimes Pythagoras is said to have been Pherecydes' pupil, sometimes to have introduced it with the doctrine of Orphism, a Thracian religion that was to be important in the diffusion of reincarnation, or else to have brought the teaching from India. In Phaedo Plato makes his teacher Socrates, prior to his death, state; "I am confident that there truly is such a thing as living again, and that the living spring from the dead." However Xenophon does not mention Socrates as believing in reincarnation and Plato may have systematised Socrates' thought with concepts he took directly from Pythagoreanism or Orphism.
[edit] Early Buddhism and Hinduism

The systematic attempt to attain first-hand knowledge of past lives has been developed in various ways in different places. The early Buddhist texts discuss techniques for recalling previous births, predicated on the development of high levels of meditative concentration.[28] The later Yoga Sutras of Patanjali, which exhibit heavy Buddhist influence,[29] give similar instructions on how to attain the ability.[30] The Buddha reportedly warned that this experience can be misleading and should be interpreted with care.[31]

Tibetan Buddhism has developed a unique 'science' of death and rebirth, a good deal of which is set down in what is popularly known as The Tibetan Book of the Dead. The Hasidic tzadik was believed to know the past lives of each person through his semi-prophetic abilities.
A 2nd century Roman sarcophagus shows the mythology and symbolism of the Orphic and Dionysiac Mystery schools. Orpheus plays his lyre to the left
[edit] Classical Antiquity
See also: metempsychosis

The Orphic religion, which taught reincarnation, first appeared in Thrace in north-eastern Greece and Bulgaria, about the 6th century BC, organized itself into mystery schools at Eleusis and elsewhere, and produced a copious literature.[32][33][34] Orpheus, its legendary founder, is said to have taught that the immortal soul aspires to freedom while the body holds it prisoner. The wheel of birth revolves, the soul alternates between freedom and captivity round the wide circle of necessity. Orpheus proclaimed the need of the grace of the gods, Dionysus in particular, and of self-purification until the soul has completed the spiral ascent of destiny to live for ever.

An association between Pythagorean philosophy and reincarnation was routinely accepted throughout antiquity. In the Republic Plato makes Socrates tell how Er, the son of Armenius, miraculously returned to life on the twelfth day after death and recounted the secrets of the other world. There are myths and theories to the same effect in other dialogues, in the Chariot allegory of the Phaedrus, in the Meno, Timaeus and Laws. The soul, once separated from the body, spends an indeterminate amount of time in "formland" (see The Allegory of the Cave in The Republic) and then assumes another body.

In later Greek literature the doctrine is mentioned in a fragment of Menander[35] and satirized by Lucian.[36] In Roman literature it is found as early as Ennius,[37] who, in a lost passage of his Annals, told how he had seen Homer in a dream, who had assured him that the same soul which had animated both the poets had once belonged to a peacock. Persius in his satires (vi. 9) laughs at this: it is referred to also by Lucretius[38] and Horace.[39]

Virgil works the idea into his account of the Underworld in the sixth book of the Aeneid.[40] It persists down to the late classic thinkers, Plotinus and the other Neoplatonists. In the Hermetica, a Graeco-Egyptian series of writings on cosmology and spirituality attributed to Hermes Trismegistus/Thoth, the doctrine of reincarnation is central.

In Greco-Roman thought, the concept of metempsychosis disappeared with the rise of Early Christianity, reincarnation being incompatible with the Christian core doctrine of salvation of the faithful after death. It has been suggested that some of the early Church Fathers, especially Origen still entertained a belief in the possibility of reincarnation, but evidence is tenuous, and the writings of Origen as they have come down to us speak explicitly against it.[41]

Some early Christian Gnostic sects professed reincarnation. The Sethians and followers of Valentinus believed in it.[42] The followers of Bardaisan of Mesopotamia, a sect of the 2nd century deemed heretical by the Catholic Church, drew upon Chaldean astrology, to which Bardaisan's son Harmonius, educated in Athens, added Greek ideas including a sort of metempsychosis. Another such teacher was Basilides (132–? CE/AD), known to us through the criticisms of Irenaeus and the work of Clement of Alexandria. (see also Neoplatonism and Gnosticism and Buddhism and Gnosticism)

In the third Christian century Manichaeism spread both east and west from Babylonia, then within the Sassanid Empire, where its founder Mani lived about 216–276. Manichaean monasteries existed in Rome in 312 AD. Noting Mani's early travels to the Kushan Empire and other Buddhist influences in Manichaeism, Richard Foltz[43] attributes Mani's teaching of reincarnation to Buddhist influence. However the inter-relation of Manicheanism, Orphism, Gnosticism and neo-Platonism is far from clear.
[edit] Taoism

Taoist documents from as early as the Han Dynasty claimed that Lao Tzu appeared on earth as different persons in different times beginning in the legendary era of Three Sovereigns and Five Emperors. The (ca. 3rd century BC) Chuang Tzu states: "Birth is not a beginning; death is not an end. There is existence without limitation; there is continuity without a starting-point. Existence without limitation is Space. Continuity without a starting point is Time. There is birth, there is death, there is issuing forth, there is entering in."[44]
[edit] The Celts

In the 1st century BC Alexander Cornelius Polyhistor wrote;

The Pythagorean doctrine prevails among the Gauls' teaching that the souls of men are immortal, and that after a fixed number of years they will enter into another body.

Julius Caesar recorded that the druids of Gaul, Britain and Ireland had metempsychosis as one of their core doctrines;[45]

The principal point of their doctrine is that the soul does not die and that after death it passes from one body into another..... the main object of all education is, in their opinion, to imbue their scholars with a firm belief in the indestructibility of the human soul, which, according to their belief, merely passes at death from one tenement to another; for by such doctrine alone, they say, which robs death of all its terrors, can the highest form of human courage be developed.

[edit] Middle Ages

Around the 11-12th century several reincarnationist movements were persecuted as heresies, through the establishment of the Inquisition in the Latin west. These included the Cathar, Paterene or Albigensian church of western Europe, the Paulician movement, which arose in Armenia,[46] and the Bogomils in Bulgaria.[47]

Christian sects such as the Bogomils and the Cathars, who professed reincarnation and other gnostic beliefs, were referred to as "Manichean", and are today sometimes described by scholars as "Neo-Manichean".[48] As there is no known Manichaean mythology or terminology in the writings of these groups there has been some dispute among historians as to whether these groups truly were descendants of Manichaeism.[49]
[edit] Norse mythology
Sváfa holding the dying Helgi in their first incarnation of three.

Reincarnation also appears in Norse mythology, in the Poetic Edda. The editor of the Poetic Edda says that Helgi Hjörvarðsson and his mistress, the valkyrie Sváfa, whose love story is told in the poem Helgakviða Hjörvarðssonar, were reborn as Helgi Hundingsbane and the valkyrie Sigrún. Helgi and Sigrún's love story is the matter of a part of the Völsunga saga and the lays Helgakviða Hundingsbana I and II. They were reborn a second time as Helgi Haddingjaskati and the valkyrie Kára, but unfortunately their story, Káruljóð, only survives in a probably modified form in the Hrómundar saga Gripssonar.

The belief in reincarnation may have been commonplace among the Norse since the annotator of the Poetic Edda wrote that people formerly used to believe in it:

Sigrun was early dead of sorrow and grief. It was believed in olden times that people were born again, but that is now called old wives' folly. Of Helgi and Sigrun it is said that they were born again; he became Helgi Haddingjaskati, and she Kara the daughter of Halfdan, as is told in the Lay of Kara, and she was a Valkyrie.[50]

[edit] Renaissance and Early Modern period

While reincarnation has been a matter of faith in some communities from an early date it has also frequently been argued for on principle, as Plato does when he argues that the number of souls must be finite because souls are indestructible,[51] Benjamin Franklin held a similar view.[52] Sometimes such convictions, as in Socrates' case, arise from a more general personal faith, at other times from anecdotal evidence such as Plato makes Socrates offer in the Myth of Er.

During the Renaissance translations of Plato, the Hermetica and other works fostered new European interest in reincarnation. Marsilio Ficino[53] argued that Plato's references to reincarnation were intended allegorically, Shakespeare made fun[54] but Giordano Bruno was burned at the stake by authorities after being found guilty of heresy by the Roman Inquisition for his teachings.[55] But the Greek philosophical works remained available and, particularly in north Europe, were discussed by groups such as the Cambridge Platonists.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1400367
United States
06/03/2011 03:57 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
Reincarnation was believed in ancient Babylon in their pagan religions. So yes, it was around before Christianity, obviously.
ObeWayneKenobe

User ID: 1330622
United States
06/03/2011 03:58 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The New Age Movement is Dangerous & a Lie!
Some people might be surprised to find out that Hitler was a big time new ager. He followed the writings, doctrines and teachings of Helena Blavatsky......the mother of the pagan new age movement and all of it's pure satanic origin.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa

Well, I agree with you Lisa, that "New Age" is being utilized by the Adversary..........however; the problem I have, is that you seem to lump everything that is NOT Christian, into the 'New Age' movement........and THAT is where I must part company with you!

I think your definition of "New Age" is too ALL INCLUSIVE!?!





GLP