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General Troll, US Shillitary User ID: 984018 United States 06/30/2011 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | General, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1361338I'm with you on the BK2. I have a first gen. I would definitely get the micarta scales for it. My new knife is the Ontario Sp52. If you have a Camillus made Becker you might want to sell it or put it aside.....Buy yourself a Kabar for using cuz collectors are paying a hefty premium for the Camillus ones.... dook, 1st gen Kabar not the orig Camillus. I wish! I prefer the exposed pommel on the 2nd generation BK2's. If you have the money check these sheaths for them out. [link to www.hedgehogleatherworks.com] Kinda pricey for a $60 knife, but the original kydex sheath is junk IMHO. I also have an Aqualung/US Divers Master Dive knife that I love. I traded a SEAL my Ka-bar for it back before the Internet was so popular. Other than being stainless, that knife has taken a beating very well. Last Edited by General Troll, US Shillitary on 06/30/2011 07:42 PM "What you have just said, is the most insanely idiotic thing I have ever heard. At no point, in your rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul." |
Dr Discordia User ID: 1447705 United Kingdom 06/30/2011 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well morphine is almost impossible to get, but the lesser version of it TRAMADOL is easier to obtain as a pain-killer or pain-easer. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1298243maybe you can use that in your medipack?? i don,t want to give anyone idea,s for drugs or something but i get it that its only ment for emergency uses is it not?? Not strictly true dude, tramadol is a synthetic opiod, where as morphine is an opiate, but tramadol is also illegal here without prescription anyway; although it would be a useful medication to have as a moderate painkiller. Codiene is over the counter here, codiene is basically methyl-morphine, so technically with some chemistry know how you can demethylate the codeine and turn it into morphine. Would require some basic chemistry equipment though. On short SHTF notice an alternative such as ketamine might be easier to obtain, ie vet supplier. Often used at stables for horses. There are no rules anywhere. The Goddess Prevails. |
Dr Discordia User ID: 1447705 United Kingdom 06/30/2011 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i live in holland where there is much much much water everywhere, so my next buy is gonna be an inflatible kayak(with some repairkits and 2 component expanding foam if an irrepairable leak appears i fill the chambers with that.) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1298243I have an inflatable boat, but dont plan on taking that with me, too big, bulky and heavy. With some plastic tubing you could make a small boat with a few rolls of waterproof duct tape. A lin of some kind of resin would help too. Basically just build a three sided frame, and wrap the tape around the tubing in a hull shape. Make shift boat that weighs about 5lb. There are no rules anywhere. The Goddess Prevails. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1280484 Netherlands 06/30/2011 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My katydyn water filter & flint and steel & real nice med kit (with the knowledge on how to use it).Ultralite bivy,ultralte bag & hammock,vicodin. Quoting: FUBARThe med kit is the hard part. Wish i could legally own morphine, diazepam, epinephrine and half a dozen very important survival medications. Some of the very strong antibiotics are hard to obtain also. IV equipment is pretty important too, its amazing how fast infection complications like diarrhoea can kill people if you dont have a drip. Somebody could catch crypto from river water after being a bit rundown after a few weeks on the move and it could end badly. well morphine is almost impossible to get, but the lesser version of it TRAMADOL is easier to obtain as a pain-killer or pain-easer. maybe you can use that in your medipack?? i don,t want to give anyone idea,s for drugs or something but i get it that its only ment for emergency uses is it not?? for me personally, ive started collecting a few months ago every month i buy certain items, medikits,tarp,knife,axe,saw rope, en food and a waterfilter of course. i live in holland where there is much much much water everywhere, so my next buy is gonna be an inflatible kayak(with some repairkits and 2 component expanding foam if an irrepairable leak appears i fill the chambers with that.) i wanna go on bike or on foot so no hardshell kayak for on top of a car, its no use, there,s gonna be traffic for dozens of miles long everyday, let alone if there ever would be a disaster here. i also need a tent and woodgasburningstove and some more stuff. got my 100 liter backpack today in the mailorder. its gonna go on my back for walking and on my bikeluggage cart if i go for distances. well my new bug out bike is gonna be a cheap one as i think i leave it behind somewhere if it needs to be. the bike cart i choose is also manageable as a handcart and i choose a 2 person kayak so the handcart should fit in nicely, also a 2 person kayak can handle more luggage weight well every month nothing happens i get more usefull stuff. and even when nothing happens?? well i don,t want it to go bad, but i know that it,s gonna be bad. i might have the flee my home, or kicked out of my home if i can,t afford the mortgage anymore because of bad economy. well then i have no choice to survive. better to see it now and act on it now, most people of holland are just as ignorent as the rest of the world. so arrogant, nothing will happen to us. well we will see. Aren't you exaggerating a bit? When was the last time we had a disaster in the Netherlands? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1449836 United States 06/30/2011 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love my stainless steel Nisaku hori-hori tool. [link to shop.horticultureguy.com] Beautiful piece of kit! |
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Burt Gummer User ID: 1447251 United States 06/30/2011 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I still think a ziploc bag full of Bic Lighters would be the smartest thing to carry in a BOB. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1449696FYI.... When the temps go below freezing or below.... ....the fuel sometimes becomes too cold to turn from liquid into gas and the result is it won't come out the lighter nozzle. Don't count on them in cold environments.....and over time they do "leak out". Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 06/30/2011 10:30 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1449836 United States 06/30/2011 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I still think a ziploc bag full of Bic Lighters would be the smartest thing to carry in a BOB. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1449696I'll agree with this. Cold temps won't stop Bic lighters from working, that's a myth. They ALWAYS work and NEVER leak unless the lever is depressed. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1317081 United States 06/30/2011 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1449696They ALWAYS work and NEVER leak unless the lever is depressed. except for that decade when they killed ten people [link to articles.philly.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1449836 United States 06/30/2011 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1449696They ALWAYS work and NEVER leak unless the lever is depressed. except for that decade when they killed ten people [link to articles.philly.com] Wow, never heard this before! They must have reengineered. As a smoker I've lit up using bics hundreds of thousands of times and they've never failed me once. |
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Dialectic User ID: 1449553 United States 06/30/2011 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your favorite Bugout, Survival piece of equipment Quoting: Ready2bugoutWhat itemn your survival kit/bugout bag/Zombie killing bag are you most proud of or spent the most money on and feel is of great quality. Or something that was handed down to you or you made NVG |
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General Troll, US Shillitary User ID: 984018 United States 06/30/2011 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | grey matter between my ears Quoting: haskinswith that.........man can do anything good call nice to see atleast one other will survive the mind is the greatest weapon/tool you can ever have Very true But after that, it's a solid knife. "What you have just said, is the most insanely idiotic thing I have ever heard. At no point, in your rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul." |
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someone User ID: 1450197 United States 06/30/2011 11:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Woodman's Pal. American Made since 1949. Perfect weight and heft for cutting tree limbs and man limbs. Bought locally, $110. Knife. K-bar. $ 60 to $80 Some are American made and some are made in china from what I understand. Muclucks. Rated at 30 below zero. Steeger-made of moose skin. Yes, Will Steeger. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1408427 United States 07/01/2011 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Think about getting (and pre-packing) a backpack setup for going someplace like the Appalachian Trail (or Pacific Coast trail) for a month or so as your basic set up. THEN test out all the gear on a 3 to 5 day trip!!! Once you have actually CARRIED the equipment and used it for a few days THEN and ONLY THEN can you separate the wheat from the chaf. needed items imo in importance to basic survival: #1 Water #2 Staying dry #3 Having shelter #4 Staying warm #5 Food #6 Staying safe (this is where guns "might" come in ... way down the list) #7 Remaining mobile (ie: light weight) The reality of a TRUE BOB bag is that unless you are going to be in an area with high personal risk from animals or people you can NOT carry heavy weaponry!! (or heavy anything) You are going to be limited to light weaponry or NO weaponry only. Yep ... all over the varous boards one reads that people are going to carry this or that weapon with LOTS of ammo. I dare them to actually pack for a two week trip on the Appalachian or Pacific Coast trail and ACTUALLY CARRY on their backs what they say they would take on either of those trails, for even 5 days!! When faced with reality they will quickly realize that they are just Arm Chair outdoorsmen and are NOT PHYSICALLY CAPABLE of doing what they claim they will do. If one is ALWAYS going to remain vehicle bound then of course one can carry a LOT more stuff ... but if that is the case then face the issue up front that one is going to be limited to vehicle travel ... and once one can no longer buy gasoline whenever and whereever they want then one's plans are toast. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1408427 United States 07/01/2011 12:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | to add to my post above: Staying warm: Is your gear capable of keeping you "warm" in the coldest temperature of both your area, AND the next climatic zone north of you, on the absolutely COLDEST days that occure in that area (NOT the average ... that won't kill you, the absolute WORST days will kill you) |