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Buford2 User ID: 1447484 United States 08/16/2011 01:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm on the moon theme for a while now, and my personal experience is that the moon in fact is acting in a not normal way. Quoting: 2Crazy4UWhen i comment in any other thread, some even call me moontard, but hey i'm not here to find problems. I'm here to find some answer. (like many others) Thank you for sharing your experiences. soooo Hi OP, I noticed something off last year with the Moon. I started filming it and I would find it very bright some nights and others it would be less. I also notice the face of the moon is rotating. The moon tonight looks odd shaped, almost like an egg. I have seen black horizontal lines run the entire Moon while moving up vertically. I've noticed clouds appear behind the moon also. No clue what is going on but something is off. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1286880 Australia 08/16/2011 02:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's something wrong with the Moon. The lunar surface has tilted 90 degrees since November 2010. There's something wrong with the Sun. It's setting due-North West, way out from where it should be. In all seasons. There's something wrong with the Stars. Many of them aren't where they should be. Again, irrespective of seasons and area of the world in which they're being viewed from. It's way off kilter. Our axis is wrong too. It's all wrong and the media and NASA are refusing to address it. Link [link to mediajackhammer.wordpress.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1445810 Canada 08/16/2011 02:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | O my Gosh! I was seriously just talking with someone about this ..I have noticed the moon is not where it should be this whole summer. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1442566Sorry, but you are not seeing a (9 +/- 3) 10^-12 yr^-1 change in the eccentricity of the moon by eye. Or even by telescope. Such a change is below your ability to detect. Here's what it looks like in a diagram of the moon's orbit (not kidding): [link to i319.photobucket.com] There is quite literally no perceptible difference at all, and the original authors who detected it using lunar laser ranging courtesy of Apollo hypothesize that it's due to internal dynamics of the moon itself. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1506982 United States 08/16/2011 03:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Moon Orbit Wrong Cornell University associate Lorenzo Lorio, Has Researched i'm sure because of public outcry & observations made by You, my Friends, Visitors & others on the Internet and Concluded that Indeed there Is Something Wrong With The Sun Moon & Earth Quoting: 2Crazy4UMore info and research on the video description. Please lets analize and comments appreciated. PDF Link & much info [link to arxiv.org] ----------------- PIN WILL BE NICE FOR A FIRST TIME. THANKS Thanks for the find OP! I did want to mention that the video IS actually really misleading. The quoted paper suggests that the maths wrong with the moon COULD be caused by something like a Planet X, but THEN went on to mathematically prove that the anomaly is HIGHLY UNLIKELY to be caused by a planet X. Here's some quotes from the paper: [link to www.scribd.com] " A potentially viable Newtonian candidate would bea trans-Plutonian massive object (Planet X/Nemesis/Tyche) since it, actually,would affect e with a non-vanishing long-term variation. On the other hand,the values for the physical and orbital parameters of such a hypothetical bodyrequired to obtain the right order of magnitude for ˙ e are completely unrealistic.Moreover, they are in neat disagreement with both the most recent theoreticalscenarios envisaging the existence of a distant, planetary-sized body and withthe model-independent constraints on them dynamically inferred from planetary motions." [page 2] "We must conclude that not even the hypothesis of Planet X is a viable one to explainthe anomalous increase of the lunar eccentricity of eq. (1)." [page 14] If you read pages 12-14 of the paper, you will find the mathematical analysis to explain why the author does not believe the anomaly is explained by a Planet X. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1505733 United States 08/16/2011 03:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's something wrong with the Moon. The lunar surface has tilted 90 degrees since November 2010. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1286880There's something wrong with the Sun. It's setting due-North West, way out from where it should be. In all seasons. There's something wrong with the Stars. Many of them aren't where they should be. Again, irrespective of seasons and area of the world in which they're being viewed from. It's way off kilter. Our axis is wrong too. It's all wrong and the media and NASA are refusing to address it. Link [link to mediajackhammer.wordpress.com] There is nothing wrong with the moon. The reason you believe this crap is because you saw it in a youtube video without any real math or evidence to support these wild notions. In the OP's video, the reason the moon appears to be different is due to it's location relative to the Earth. If you film once at 4am and again two or three nights later at 10pm, your results will be different and the moon will appear to be tilted but it's alignment remains constant... remember kids, the EARTH ROTATES and the MOON ORBITS. If there are stars that are out of place, y u no prove it? As the saying goes, pics or it never happened... Regardless, all of these heavenly bodies are in constant motion. They are on a predetermined path and have been following it since their births. The same stars we see on a crisp 2011 night are in naturally different location from the stars the ancients saw, and the romans, and the spanish explorers, and even your parents. As for the sun, our axis has been altered, this is a known fact... this also means that our sun will rise and set in different locations from prior to the axis shift. Even small axial movement, such as our 5inches or so, can have very wide (in terms of relative distance) changes on the appearance of the sun in the sky. This doesn't mean there is anything wrong with the sun, it's operating just as it has 3 billion years ago and there is very little in the galaxy that will change that (though, it could theoretically happen). Even if the media or NASA could do anything about the issues we might encounter in space, how could they tell us without inciting massive riots and chaos? Be less concerned with what is or isn't wrong with our solar system and more concerned with how you'll protect your family with the SHTF... though your claims are incorrect and misguided, don't let that detract from what is really happening here. |
The Estonian User ID: 1505370 Estonia 08/16/2011 03:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's something wrong with the Moon. The lunar surface has tilted 90 degrees since November 2010. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1286880There's something wrong with the Sun. It's setting due-North West, way out from where it should be. In all seasons. There's something wrong with the Stars. Many of them aren't where they should be. Again, irrespective of seasons and area of the world in which they're being viewed from. It's way off kilter. Our axis is wrong too. It's all wrong and the media and NASA are refusing to address it. Link [link to mediajackhammer.wordpress.com] Sorry mate, but you are wrong. |
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Darth Ganymede User ID: 1506093 Germany 08/16/2011 03:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Utter bollocks. Is this another attempt by the "Elenin brown dwarf fraternity" to prove it by spreading rubbish about the moon being off course, caused of course by the mini comet Elenin:) Change the way you look at things, and the things you look at change. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1506780 United States 08/16/2011 04:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Utter bollocks. Quoting: Darth GanymedeIs this another attempt by the "Elenin brown dwarf fraternity" to prove it by spreading rubbish about the moon being off course, caused of course by the mini comet Elenin:) nope, mainly seems to be folks worried about something wrong with the moon and wondering why something seems to be wrong with the moon |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1505733 United States 08/16/2011 04:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Utter bollocks. Quoting: Darth GanymedeIs this another attempt by the "Elenin brown dwarf fraternity" to prove it by spreading rubbish about the moon being off course, caused of course by the mini comet Elenin:) It's disinformation. The truth about Elenin is out there and it's far scarier than the moon appearing to pass in front of clouds. She is the harbinger of our fate. |
facepalm User ID: 1507014 Germany 08/16/2011 04:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More here [link to enviromonitor.amplify.com] Quoting: DoomisTardy^snip^ Authors: Lorenzo Iorio (Submitted on 1 Feb 2011 (v1), last revised 21 Feb 2011 (this version, v3)) Abstract: A recent analysis of a Lunar Laser Ranging (LLR) data record spanning 38.7 yr revealed an anomalous increase of the eccentricity of the lunar orbit amounting to de/dt_meas = (9 +/- 3) 10^-12 yr^-1. The present-day models of the dissipative phenomena occurring in the interiors of both the Earth and the Moon are not able to explain it..... More and more evidence for Nibiru. This makes me so excited!!! Not for death and destruction- for change and evolution!!! this story is from february and it has been on glp already many months ago, i remember this arxiv research and publishing site and this laser rangig stuff. please do search in the glp archives for dupe stories before posting up the hyperventillating news and getting all overexcited. nothing has happened ever since. this world is in deep sleeping state and far from awakening yet. no englightenment for a long shot. get over it. sorry. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1505733 United States 08/16/2011 04:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is un real. I have been watching the moon the last few weeks and it it FAR off to the left from where I am viewing from as apposed to even LAST NIGHT. ?!?!? Full Moon?! Quoting: bbristoweI've been watching the moon for two decades now... you're right, one night it's big and bright and in the southwest and then a month later half of it is in shadow and on the other side of the sky. What the hell is going on with the moon? How come it doesn't stay in one place in the night's sky and stay lit up all the time? Sometimes I see it during the day, it's just crazy how the moon isn't always in the same place every day. /sarcasm |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1499970 United States 08/16/2011 04:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IT SHOULD BE NOTED: For references purposes only, i see a man with a giant afro on the face of the moon. So when the moon is rising the face looks upward (to the right). And then it reaches it's highest point in the sky and then turns and looks downward (to the right). That has ALWAYS been the case so the video in the OP video is dis-info showing those two images. One is of the moon rising and the other of the moon falling. It happens EVERY MONTH (when you can use the face/afro err just when the moon is more full it's easier to see the transition - then again i'm a night person so i see it do it). I'm not saying nothing is up, i am a proponent for the "something is wrong with the moon/earth/sun" crap, i know things are different! I was first on board to say the sun was whacked (earth must be on different orbit). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1252150 United States 08/16/2011 04:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even if it was wrong, it is still right. How can the moon and stars be wrong? Only we can be wrong. And for sure, nobody here can see outside that the moon did something unexpected, you all are not highly sensitive sensors wired to massive mathematical computers. Cornell may see extra gravitational forces that the expect are from a body further away than pluto (speculation). But that influence is so minute it would take months or years of measurements to detect it. And this guy was an associate, isn't that a paid speaker, not someone who works at Cornell? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1499970 United States 08/16/2011 04:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Utter bollocks. Quoting: Darth GanymedeIs this another attempt by the "Elenin brown dwarf fraternity" to prove it by spreading rubbish about the moon being off course, caused of course by the mini comet Elenin:) I should also have noted i am NOT a proponent for the planet-x/nibiru/brown dwarf crap. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1499970 United States 08/16/2011 04:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even if it was wrong, it is still right. How can the moon and stars be wrong? Only we can be wrong. And for sure, nobody here can see outside that the moon did something unexpected, you all are not highly sensitive sensors wired to massive mathematical computers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1252150Cornell may see extra gravitational forces that the expect are from a body further away than pluto (speculation). But that influence is so minute it would take months or years of measurements to detect it. And this guy was an associate, isn't that a paid speaker, not someone who works at Cornell? My first thought was they've got to be fulfilling orders to propagate the dwarf-star theory and the fear with it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1488764 Philippines 08/16/2011 04:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the find OP! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1506982I did want to mention that the video IS actually really misleading. The quoted paper suggests that the maths wrong with the moon COULD be caused by something like a Planet X, but THEN went on to mathematically prove that the anomaly is HIGHLY UNLIKELY to be caused by a planet X. Here's some quotes from the paper: [link to www.scribd.com] " A potentially viable Newtonian candidate would bea trans-Plutonian massive object (Planet X/Nemesis/Tyche) since it, actually,would affect e with a non-vanishing long-term variation. On the other hand,the values for the physical and orbital parameters of such a hypothetical bodyrequired to obtain the right order of magnitude for ˙ e are completely unrealistic.Moreover, they are in neat disagreement with both the most recent theoreticalscenarios envisaging the existence of a distant, planetary-sized body and withthe model-independent constraints on them dynamically inferred from planetary motions." [page 2] "We must conclude that not even the hypothesis of Planet X is a viable one to explainthe anomalous increase of the lunar eccentricity of eq. (1)." [page 14] If you read pages 12-14 of the paper, you will find the mathematical analysis to explain why the author does not believe the anomaly is explained by a Planet X. I read page 14 of the paper, and the reason cited why the author does not believe the anomaly is explained by a Planet X, is that their calculations predict that Planet X for a Jovian mass should be only 200 AU away. And they are expecting that Planet X should at least be 15,000 AU away from the Sun, as concluded by Matese's research. But, what if a Jovian massed Planet X really is less than 200 AU away and still fast approaching? |
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Anti-GLP Effect User ID: 1488764 Philippines 08/16/2011 05:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my humble opinion, this research shows that a Jovian mass Planet X is less than 200 AU away, and is causing the anomalous increase of the Moon's orbital eccentricity over time. Last Edited by The Opened Scroll on 08/16/2011 05:22 AM So I have written it, so it shall be done! [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1499970 United States 08/16/2011 05:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm on the moon theme for a while now, and my personal experience is that the moon in fact is acting in a not normal way. Quoting: 2Crazy4UWhen i comment in any other thread, some even call me moontard, but hey i'm not here to find problems. I'm here to find some answer. (like many others) Thank you for sharing your experiences. soooo Hi OP, I noticed something off last year with the Moon. I started filming it and I would find it very bright some nights and others it would be less. I also notice the face of the moon is rotating. The moon tonight looks odd shaped, almost like an egg. I have seen black horizontal lines run the entire Moon while moving up vertically. I've noticed clouds appear behind the moon also. No clue what is going on but something is off. I did see last night 15th into 16th the moon was fuzzy looking, not as bright or clear as tonight, and did look flat on a top left portion. The shape does look weird. |
TheSeeker User ID: 1507038 United States 08/16/2011 05:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, but Quoting: SpiderJonesPlease elaborate on the B.S. flag please. Enlightus That video is misleading. There is nothing wrong with the Moon's orientation. The Moon appears to rotate as it moves from East to West. It's called field rotation. A while back I made a short video in Stellarium showing field rotation from Moonrise to Moonset. Stellarium: Here is another video showing field rotation. you heard him...Cornell university is wrong...lol He who asks is a fool for five minutes. But he who does not ask remains a fool forever. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1507045 United Kingdom 08/16/2011 05:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's something wrong with the Moon. The lunar surface has tilted 90 degrees since November 2010. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1286880There's something wrong with the Sun. It's setting due-North West, way out from where it should be. In all seasons. There's something wrong with the Stars. Many of them aren't where they should be. Again, irrespective of seasons and area of the world in which they're being viewed from. It's way off kilter. Our axis is wrong too. It's all wrong and the media and NASA are refusing to address it. Link [link to mediajackhammer.wordpress.com] Then please tell me clever clogs why the days the normal length here in UK. If the Earths axiss had shifted the length of a day would change quite profoundly for some people. |