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EINSTEIN WRONG: Particles Clocked Moving Faster Than Light at CERN

 
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Einstein was not wrong, his theory was incomplete. They are still trying to complete it.
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Exactly!

Science is happy to be proven wrong. The pursuit of knowledge through fact finding, and disproving, is the only way to reach truth.

Assuming, or just believing, is the realm of the fool.
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That is the biggest load of horse excrement I have ever seen.
You either conform to a specific agenda or you don't get funding, and a large part of that agenda is suppression of progress. Einsteins goal was to create a stumblingblock that could never be overcome and would stifle advancement for nearly a century.
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I view this as good news, but watch and see what happens. It will be marginalized and hushed up. Shortly after the publication of relativity a US scientist confirmed the existence of the ether, repairing the flawed Michaelson Morley experiment. His results were ridiculed and hushed up.

[link to www.orgonelab.org]

I don't think they can allow this result to stand up because it might lead to things like anti-gravity and free energy and so forth.
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yer right. tomorrow this news article will be supressed
and tptb will hunt down everyone who read the article and kill them.
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I've known this for a while.

What is faster than light? Dark.

And now they have to do the experiment to push particles faster than space-time, which is about 10 to the 6th power harder than gearing to find a nutrino. But I said it so it's possible.

But the time they do that, the particles will start showing up before they attempt the experiment, thus confusing the hell out of everybody. They will think it's coming from a solid-core "us" but it's only coming from a potential "us" in a split universe. Then we are left with deciding to follow through with the experiment to make the effects or to ignore it. If they know what they are looking for, some intern won't shrug it off as a computer glitch.
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Einstein was not wrong, his theory was incomplete. They are still trying to complete it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1549136


Exactly!

Science is happy to be proven wrong. The pursuit of knowledge through fact finding, and disproving, is the only way to reach truth.

Assuming, or just believing, is the realm of the fool.
 Quoting: Infinite Zero


That is the biggest load of horse excrement I have ever seen.
You either conform to a specific agenda or you don't get funding, and a large part of that agenda is suppression of progress. Einsteins goal was to create a stumblingblock that could never be overcome and would stifle advancement for nearly a century.
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this^^ - you hit it right on, bro!
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it hasnt been reviewed, so its unknown if its currently true or not...so dont be goin all haywire about it
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Einstein was not wrong, his theory was incomplete. They are still trying to complete it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1549136


Exactly!

Science is happy to be proven wrong. The pursuit of knowledge through fact finding, and disproving, is the only way to reach truth.

Assuming, or just believing, is the realm of the fool.
 Quoting: Infinite Zero


That is the biggest load of horse excrement I have ever seen.
You either conform to a specific agenda or you don't get funding, and a large part of that agenda is suppression of progress. Einsteins goal was to create a stumblingblock that could never be overcome and would stifle advancement for nearly a century.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1269306


this^^ - you hit it right on, bro!
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actually it was 1955, when Richard Feynman
published "Quantum Electrodynamics" where
he explained everything and made it all make sense.

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this is a cool article on the subject:

Faster-than-Light
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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That Wikipedia page links to blogs and not verified scientific essays.
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Which is UTTER bullshit! smileyyouarestup

There are only 3 Dimensions in this Open System Universe and your 11 Dimensions are in a Closed Sysem Universe, which only exists in your Closed Mind!

forsalesmiley

Ribbit spankbutt
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well, whatever frame of reference 11 dimensions relate to,
modern physics thinks that the mathematics of 11 dimensions
is pretty important to "the theory of everything".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1593642


That would be Prof. Kaku, who is a crackpot!

The True Theory of Everything is the Perpetual Motion Universe Theory, which explains the 3 Dimensions (2 of Space & 1 of Time), along with Bi-dimensional Transdermal Energy Transfer, which explains how the energy created by the huge magneto generators, known as spiral galaxies, is transferred from this spacial dimension to the spacial dimension over/under this one, and how the excess energy is expelled out the massive DUAL back-to-back black holes at the center of ALL spiral galaxies. sun

Ribbit hunter
 Quoting: Butt Ugly Toad


Since this fascinates me: Is it possible to "bump" time? In other words -- do you think that it is possible that people who "see the future" actually see or participate in a future event for let's say a 10 second "bump" and then come back to this linear time/space and tell what they saw? Have you ever considered if it was possible to somehow "bend" time? Just want your opinion.
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Einstein did say
"if you sit with a girl for 3Hrs, it feels like 3mins.
put your hand on a hot stove for 3Mins it feels like 3 Hrs."
but he's been wrong before lol
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One of the absolute pillars of science - that nothing can go faster than the speed of light - appears to have been upended by a sub-atomic particle in an experiment in Switzerland.

Scientists at the world's largest physics lab outside Geneva said on Thursday they have clocked neutrinos travelling faster than light.

That's something that according to Albert Einstein's 1905 special theory of relativity - the famous E=mc2 equation - just doesn't happen.

[link to news.ninemsn.com.au]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516044


Wouldn't entanglement theory have already suggested that?

Also; couldn't a 'thought' travel faster than the speed of light?
 Quoting: Moran Bane


The way we perceive distance could be an illusion. Two entangled objects could be right next to each other in reality yet they would appear to humans to be separated.
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this is a cool article on the subject:

Faster-than-Light
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1593642


That Wikipedia page links to blogs and not verified scientific essays.
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all that information is reliable as general background
information.

wikipedia is a treasure-trove of information. get with it!
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Another step towards preparing us for E.T. disclosure?

The big argument has always been travel between stars and the time it would take.
 Quoting: Infinite Zero


Yes! If the speed of light was as fast as one could possibly move, how do you think travelling to different solar systems such as in star wars could ever work? That's where 'warp speed' or 'hyper speed' come in to play. This is travel faster than the speed of light.

Oh... but this is just fiction you say? Much of our 'fiction' will become reality and so it will go with space travel.
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Which is UTTER bullshit! smileyyouarestup

There are only 3 Dimensions in this Open System Universe and your 11 Dimensions are in a Closed Sysem Universe, which only exists in your Closed Mind!

forsalesmiley

Ribbit spankbutt
 Quoting: Butt Ugly Toad


well, whatever frame of reference 11 dimensions relate to,
modern physics thinks that the mathematics of 11 dimensions
is pretty important to "the theory of everything".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1593642


That would be Prof. Kaku, who is a crackpot!

The True Theory of Everything is the Perpetual Motion Universe Theory, which explains the 3 Dimensions (2 of Space & 1 of Time), along with Bi-dimensional Transdermal Energy Transfer, which explains how the energy created by the huge magneto generators, known as spiral galaxies, is transferred from this spacial dimension to the spacial dimension over/under this one, and how the excess energy is expelled out the massive DUAL back-to-back black holes at the center of ALL spiral galaxies. sun

Ribbit hunter
 Quoting: Butt Ugly Toad


Since this fascinates me: Is it possible to "bump" time? In other words -- do you think that it is possible that people who "see the future" actually see or participate in a future event for let's say a 10 second "bump" and then come back to this linear time/space and tell what they saw? Have you ever considered if it was possible to somehow "bend" time? Just want your opinion.
 Quoting: aviatrix


Imagine the ability to recreate worlds, identical to an earlier version, and I mean identical, which includes ALL lifeforms and then apply the Law of Predestined to it:

"If everything is as it always was, then everything will be as it always has been."

Then what someone would PERCIEVE as a glimpse into the future is actually a glimpse into the past, by them seeing a past version of this world but in a future timeline of it, to what the person is actually at. clocksmiley

So Time isn't the illusion. Time is a constant and linear in nature, always moving FORWARD in increments of finite. It's your take on Time (perception) that's the illusion. chuckle

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Einstein did not say that nothing can go faster than light, he
stated that matter cannot be accelerated to the speed of light .

Particles called Tack-eons are faster than light and postulated to exist.

However, you must go where the data takes you...not take the data to where you want to go.
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If proven correct this shatters mainstream physics foundations.
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You mean like the fact that the sun is now changing the decay rate of matter?

Humanity is going back to preschool to relearn. afro
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With all due respect, Einstein THEORISED that nothing could go faster than light. It's only all his concrete-headed followers who pretend it's a law and shout down anyone who dares say otherwise.

Einstein went to his grave unsatisfied with his own theories. He just got a Jesus-like following after his death.
 Quoting: 13.0.0.0.0


bump

Einstein theorized hence his work is in the public domain. Tesla, the real genius of the last millennia, conceived a factual model of the universe -- work still classified. This proves whom they value the most!
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Tesla rules
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Supposed 'Laws' get broken all the time .
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True! All it takes is some "authority" to claim it - Look at the ignorant fucks on the 9/11 commission and the blow hole retards from NIST - They broke every law of physics 11 years ago... and 99.9% of the sheeple believed it.
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Don't know about this claim...time space may be able to be bent accordingly with appropriate mass but that's about it. Every time we have one of these "claims" that proved Einstein wrong, they go back in and do the actual math and find out shucks he still had it right. Particles that move faster than light are not of here
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Greetings:

The "Speed Of Light" Is A Terrestrial Made Up Thing ... A "Constant" In Which Terrestrial Scientists Can Build A Concensus ... Can Make Agreement !!

"Light" Of That Which You Call Such Energy ... Is Variable In "Perceived" "Speed, Distance & Motion" !! ... It Acts & Reacts Differently To Various Things/Phenomena ... As Such The "Travel Time" Is Always Different ... Therefore There Is No Constant !!

As To "Albert Einstein" His Works Were Not His Own ... Only Works & Theories That Were From "Other Sources" ... Namely Other Beings/Persons !! ... Of His "Name Recognition" Credit For Such "Theories" ... Belong To & With The Originators ... Not The Onces Who Had "Moved In" & Took Their Ideas !!

Farewell For Now !!

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Um..why are you capitalizing every word?
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With all due respect, Einstein THEORISED that nothing could go faster than light. It's only all his concrete-headed followers who pretend it's a law and shout down anyone who dares say otherwise.

Einstein went to his grave unsatisfied with his own theories. He just got a Jesus-like following after his death.
 Quoting: 13.0.0.0.0


bump

Einstein theorized hence his work is in the public domain. Tesla, the real genius of the last millennia, conceived a factual model of the universe -- work still classified. This proves whom they value the most!
 Quoting: Black Sun


Tesla rules
 Quoting: Hei


Tesla was a tinker.

he can't hold a candle to thinkers
like Ernst Mach, Poincare, Max Planck, and Einstein.
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well, whatever frame of reference 11 dimensions relate to,
modern physics thinks that the mathematics of 11 dimensions
is pretty important to "the theory of everything".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1593642


That would be Prof. Kaku, who is a crackpot!

The True Theory of Everything is the Perpetual Motion Universe Theory, which explains the 3 Dimensions (2 of Space & 1 of Time), along with Bi-dimensional Transdermal Energy Transfer, which explains how the energy created by the huge magneto generators, known as spiral galaxies, is transferred from this spacial dimension to the spacial dimension over/under this one, and how the excess energy is expelled out the massive DUAL back-to-back black holes at the center of ALL spiral galaxies. sun

Ribbit hunter
 Quoting: Butt Ugly Toad


Since this fascinates me: Is it possible to "bump" time? In other words -- do you think that it is possible that people who "see the future" actually see or participate in a future event for let's say a 10 second "bump" and then come back to this linear time/space and tell what they saw? Have you ever considered if it was possible to somehow "bend" time? Just want your opinion.
 Quoting: aviatrix

Einstein did say
"if you sit with a girl for 3Hrs, it feels like 3mins.
put your hand on a hot stove for 3Mins it feels like 3 Hrs."
but he's been wrong before lol
 Quoting: ripple in time


Most if not all of the 'witty' quotes supposedly made by Einstein cannot be confirmed as originating from him. In fact, there is only one video in existence of him actually speaking, and he was incoherent.

Besides that, the witticism does nothing to explain relativity, it just says time flies when your having fun, a matter of perception not actual measurable differences.
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With all due respect, Einstein THEORISED that nothing could go faster than light. It's only all his concrete-headed followers who pretend it's a law and shout down anyone who dares say otherwise.

Einstein went to his grave unsatisfied with his own theories. He just got a Jesus-like following after his death.
 Quoting: 13.0.0.0.0


bump

Einstein theorized hence his work is in the public domain. Tesla, the real genius of the last millennia, conceived a factual model of the universe -- work still classified. This proves whom they value the most!
 Quoting: Black Sun


Tesla rules
 Quoting: Hei


Tesla was a tinker.

he can't hold a candle to thinkers
like Ernst Mach, Poincare, Max Planck, and Einstein.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1593642


Thinkers think and doers do, and doers think more than thinkers.

have a nice night
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This has been known for years by separating a live cell and stimulating one to watch for a reaction in the other. It happens at the exact same time of stimulus, no matter what the distance between cells.
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bump

Einstein theorized hence his work is in the public domain. Tesla, the real genius of the last millennia, conceived a factual model of the universe -- work still classified. This proves whom they value the most!
 Quoting: Black Sun


Tesla rules
 Quoting: Hei


Tesla was a tinker.

he can't hold a candle to thinkers
like Ernst Mach, Poincare, Max Planck, and Einstein.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1593642


Thinkers think and doers do, and doers think more than thinkers.

have a nice night
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1269306


right. like i said: Tesla was a tinker.
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Tesla rules
 Quoting: Hei


Tesla was a tinker.

he can't hold a candle to thinkers
like Ernst Mach, Poincare, Max Planck, and Einstein.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1593642


Thinkers think and doers do, and doers think more than thinkers.

have a nice night
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1269306


right. like i said: Tesla was a tinker.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1593642


I think you missed the point, more accurately, your reading comprehension is horrendous. What I said was that Tesla put more thought into his inventions (inventions that actually worked) than the likes of Einstein put in their theories that don't work. Tesla's work is responsible for every single major advancement in electronics on the past 100 years, Einstein has accomplished NOTHING , save stifle advancement in physics
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Tesla rules
 Quoting: Hei


Tesla was a tinker.

he can't hold a candle to thinkers
like Ernst Mach, Poincare, Max Planck, and Einstein.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1593642


Thinkers think and doers do, and doers think more than thinkers.

have a nice night
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1269306


right. like i said: Tesla was a tinker.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1593642


Tesla invented the radio? pah.
everybody and their uncle was scrambling
around, back then, to realize James Clerk Maxwell's
theoretical findings.
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That would be Prof. Kaku, who is a crackpot!

The True Theory of Everything is the Perpetual Motion Universe Theory, which explains the 3 Dimensions (2 of Space & 1 of Time), along with Bi-dimensional Transdermal Energy Transfer, which explains how the energy created by the huge magneto generators, known as spiral galaxies, is transferred from this spacial dimension to the spacial dimension over/under this one, and how the excess energy is expelled out the massive DUAL back-to-back black holes at the center of ALL spiral galaxies. sun

Ribbit hunter
 Quoting: Butt Ugly Toad


Since this fascinates me: Is it possible to "bump" time? In other words -- do you think that it is possible that people who "see the future" actually see or participate in a future event for let's say a 10 second "bump" and then come back to this linear time/space and tell what they saw? Have you ever considered if it was possible to somehow "bend" time? Just want your opinion.
 Quoting: aviatrix

Einstein did say
"if you sit with a girl for 3Hrs, it feels like 3mins.
put your hand on a hot stove for 3Mins it feels like 3 Hrs."
but he's been wrong before lol
 Quoting: ripple in time


Most if not all of the 'witty' quotes supposedly made by Einstein cannot be confirmed as originating from him. In fact, there is only one video in existence of him actually speaking, and he was incoherent.

Besides that, the witticism does nothing to explain relativity, it just says time flies when your having fun, a matter of perception not actual measurable differences.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1269306


just wondering. do you only get on GLP to criticize? :P you should have a peaceful, bubbly vibe!:victory:
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What I wanna know is... how long til they get fast enough to abolish speculation ?
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What I wanna know is... how long til they get fast enough to abolish speculation ?
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just as soon as the computers take over all the thinking
and we just sideways all day long.
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Light, its such an overgeneralized term and tends not to break down into the subatomic makeup of what we consider light in whatever spectra....

Next there will be a new type of light we never knew existed cause we couldn't see or detect it.

Do we judge the fact its light purely by the notion our own human eyes can see it?

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Light, its such an overgeneralized term and tends not to break down into the subatomic makeup of what we consider light in whatever spectra....

Next there will be a new type of light we never knew existed cause we couldn't see or detect it.

Do we judge the fact its light purely by the notion our own human eyes can see it?

\
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there is more "dark matter/energy" in the universe
than there is "regular matter/energy", and we don't
even have a beginning clue as to what dark matter is.





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