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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1519119 United States 11/20/2011 01:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aikido was not designed for combat. Its unanimous criticism is its lack of realism that one would content with in a real life situation. The attacks and defenses are structured. There is a cause and effect between two practitioners. One looks for the other as a cue because there is a well known script to follow of cause and effect in the mechanics and movements, etc. As you know, a street fight, or a situation in real life has no script. There are no movements to study and memorize, because your opponent is not going to follow to protocols and movements of action reaction that is in place in Aikido, or any Martial Art for that matter. In fact, in situations that you must defend yourself and life, route and memorization of moves and counter moves is a folly. Natural instinctive movements are needed. Natural reactions to the opponent. Remember in a real world fight, your opponent is not going to be trained "usually" in any type of movement, countermovement of any Martial Art School. Again, using protocols of movements, counter movements against someone who is not using them, is useless, and dangerous. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 975627 United States 11/20/2011 01:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My brother trained in Aikido for a few years and used it, as a police officer, on resistant perps. It was basically useful for the understanding of joint manipulation ,etc. I don't think it would be very effective in a real fight, however. One on One, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu would be better. When you train, you actually learn technique in class and apply them as you would in a real situation. Sometimes you can roll with teammates 50, 80, to 100% without getting seriously hurt, if at all. We know when to tap, and when NOT to over-crank, choke, pull, etc.. In a real situation, we still use the technique but the fear of breaking an arm, leg, or choking someone out in self defense would not be there. There aren't many martial arts that allow you to do that. Brazilian jiu Jitsu is the way to go, my friend, for men and women. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1265094 United States 11/20/2011 02:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aikido was not designed for combat. Its unanimous criticism is its lack of realism that one would content with in a real life situation. The attacks and defenses are structured. There is a cause and effect between two practitioners. One looks for the other as a cue because there is a well known script to follow of cause and effect in the mechanics and movements, etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1519119 As you know, a street fight, or a situation in real life has no script. There are no movements to study and memorize, because your opponent is not going to follow to protocols and movements of action reaction that is in place in Aikido, or any Martial Art for that matter. In fact, in situations that you must defend yourself and life, route and memorization of moves and counter moves is a folly. Natural instinctive movements are needed. Natural reactions to the opponent. Remember in a real world fight, your opponent is not going to be trained "usually" in any type of movement, countermovement of any Martial Art School. Again, using protocols of movements, counter movements against someone who is not using them, is useless, and dangerous. Not designed for combat? dig up Morihei Ueshiba and tell him that maybe learn something about aikido before posting |
ThereIsNoEye User ID: 1429075 United States 11/20/2011 02:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've never seen it used in a streetfight. Just in movies. Brazilian Jiu-Jistu is the best martial for practical self-defense. Stick with what is proven to actually work. Last Edited by ThereIsNoEye on 11/20/2011 02:27 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5710800 United States 11/20/2011 02:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've never seen it used in a streetfight. Just in movies. Quoting: ThereIsNoEye Brazilian Jiu-Jistu is the best martial for practical self-defense. Stick with what is proven to actually work. You have to be willing to roll around with the opponent, which can be very undesirable. If there's more than one then you're screwed. I disagree that aikido is ineffective - it's just how well you understand it. |
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ThereIsNoEye User ID: 1429075 United States 11/20/2011 02:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've never seen it used in a streetfight. Just in movies. Quoting: ThereIsNoEye Brazilian Jiu-Jistu is the best martial for practical self-defense. Stick with what is proven to actually work. You have to be willing to roll around with the opponent, which can be very undesirable. If there's more than one then you're screwed. I disagree that aikido is ineffective - it's just how well you understand it. If there's more than one, you're probably screwed no matter what you plan on doing...unless that plan involves removing yourself from the situation immediately. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5710800 United States 11/20/2011 02:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've never seen it used in a streetfight. Just in movies. Quoting: ThereIsNoEye Brazilian Jiu-Jistu is the best martial for practical self-defense. Stick with what is proven to actually work. You have to be willing to roll around with the opponent, which can be very undesirable. If there's more than one then you're screwed. I disagree that aikido is ineffective - it's just how well you understand it. If there's more than one, you're probably screwed no matter what you plan on doing...unless that plan involves removing yourself from the situation immediately. If you can't handle two then YOUR KUNG-FU, IT'S JUST NO GOOD. |
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ThereIsNoEye User ID: 1429075 United States 11/20/2011 04:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if you practise practise practise, ANY martial art will become NATURAL and not 'learned moves and counter attacks'. Quoting: Free Planet 5353202 :) I'd love to see an MMA fighter 'protect himself' against a sword (or machete) attack, that would be fun. Knowing your safe zone and closing the distance very quickly would be the number 1 priority. Unless you practice doing that on a regular basis in a non-simulated environment...it's going to be very difficult to do against a real life person. Last Edited by ThereIsNoEye on 11/20/2011 04:20 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6324438 United States 10/20/2013 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | guns kill your opponent in most cases. Killing is the last thing you want to have to do in aikido. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40312198 well if you want to be all peaceful like then don't place yourself in the position to be attacked, seems like if you want to use a martial art then you will apply that principal. isolate yourself from threats, they have won, walk like a lion and ensure that you are casting the shadow of death and I guarantee you will not fear evil :) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 40312198 United States 10/20/2013 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | guns kill your opponent in most cases. Killing is the last thing you want to have to do in aikido. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40312198 well if you want to be all peaceful like then don't place yourself in the position to be attacked, seems like if you want to use a martial art then you will apply that principal. isolate yourself from threats, they have won, walk like a lion and ensure that you are casting the shadow of death and I guarantee you will not fear evil :) The goal is not to live in fear or be aloof to fighting for worthwhile causes or others. The goal is to generate honorable victories in which opponents are respected and even loved. You are not looking for fights or trying to destroy but you develop confidence to defend against aggressors, and try through honorable action and consummate skill to persuade the opponent to give up and join your cause. Weapons maybe necessary to practice the art of peace, but the goal is always minimal destruction and maximum possible redemption |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6324438 United States 10/20/2013 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | guns kill your opponent in most cases. Killing is the last thing you want to have to do in aikido. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40312198 well if you want to be all peaceful like then don't place yourself in the position to be attacked, seems like if you want to use a martial art then you will apply that principal. isolate yourself from threats, they have won, walk like a lion and ensure that you are casting the shadow of death and I guarantee you will not fear evil :) The goal is not to live in fear or be aloof to fighting for worthwhile causes or others. The goal is to generate honorable victories in which opponents are respected and even loved. You are not looking for fights or trying to destroy but you develop confidence to defend against aggressors, and try through honorable action and consummate skill to persuade the opponent to give up and join your cause. Weapons maybe necessary to practice the art of peace, but the goal is always minimal destruction and maximum possible redemption ok grasshopper take off your tabi and put on your jammies |