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Has anyone ever used the art of Aikido in a fight to defend yourself ?

 
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Has anyone ever used the art of Aikido in a fight to defend yourself ?
Has anyone ever used the art of Aikido in a fight to defend yourself ? Or defend others?
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Re: Has anyone ever used the art of Aikido in a fight to defend yourself ?
Aikido was not designed for combat. Its unanimous criticism is its lack of realism that one would content with in a real life situation. The attacks and defenses are structured. There is a cause and effect between two practitioners. One looks for the other as a cue because there is a well known script to follow of cause and effect in the mechanics and movements, etc.

As you know, a street fight, or a situation in real life has no script. There are no movements to study and memorize, because your opponent is not going to follow to protocols and movements of action reaction that is in place in Aikido, or any Martial Art for that matter.

In fact, in situations that you must defend yourself and life, route and memorization of moves and counter moves is a folly. Natural instinctive movements are needed. Natural reactions to the opponent.

Remember in a real world fight, your opponent is not going to be trained "usually" in any type of movement, countermovement of any Martial Art School.

Again, using protocols of movements, counter movements against someone who is not using them, is useless, and dangerous.
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I've never once seen an Aikido fighter in the UFC so I doubt it's very useful.
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Re: Has anyone ever used the art of Aikido in a fight to defend yourself ?
My brother trained in Aikido for a few years and used it, as a police officer, on resistant perps. It was basically useful for the understanding of joint manipulation ,etc. I don't think it would be very effective in a real fight, however.

One on One, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu would be better. When you train, you actually learn technique in class and apply them as you would in a real situation. Sometimes you can roll with teammates 50, 80, to 100% without getting seriously hurt, if at all.

We know when to tap, and when NOT to over-crank, choke, pull, etc.. In a real situation, we still use the technique but the fear of breaking an arm, leg, or choking someone out in self defense would not be there.

There aren't many martial arts that allow you to do that.

Brazilian jiu Jitsu is the way to go, my friend, for men and women.
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Re: Has anyone ever used the art of Aikido in a fight to defend yourself ?
I've never once seen an Aikido fighter in the UFC so I doubt it's very useful.
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Re: Has anyone ever used the art of Aikido in a fight to defend yourself ?
Aikido was not designed for combat. Its unanimous criticism is its lack of realism that one would content with in a real life situation. The attacks and defenses are structured. There is a cause and effect between two practitioners. One looks for the other as a cue because there is a well known script to follow of cause and effect in the mechanics and movements, etc.

As you know, a street fight, or a situation in real life has no script. There are no movements to study and memorize, because your opponent is not going to follow to protocols and movements of action reaction that is in place in Aikido, or any Martial Art for that matter.

In fact, in situations that you must defend yourself and life, route and memorization of moves and counter moves is a folly. Natural instinctive movements are needed. Natural reactions to the opponent.

Remember in a real world fight, your opponent is not going to be trained "usually" in any type of movement, countermovement of any Martial Art School.

Again, using protocols of movements, counter movements against someone who is not using them, is useless, and dangerous.
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Not designed for combat?

dig up Morihei Ueshiba and tell him that


maybe learn something about aikido before posting
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Re: Has anyone ever used the art of Aikido in a fight to defend yourself ?
I've never seen it used in a streetfight. Just in movies.

Brazilian Jiu-Jistu is the best martial for practical self-defense. Stick with what is proven to actually work.

Last Edited by ThereIsNoEye on 11/20/2011 02:27 AM
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Re: Has anyone ever used the art of Aikido in a fight to defend yourself ?
I've never once seen an Aikido fighter in the UFC so I doubt it's very useful.
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Steven Seagal uses Aikido...it's all about momentum.
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Haha, Seagal, that fat has been, wannabe fighter and
dress up barbie deputy.
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Re: Has anyone ever used the art of Aikido in a fight to defend yourself ?
I've never seen it used in a streetfight. Just in movies.

Brazilian Jiu-Jistu is the best martial for practical self-defense. Stick with what is proven to actually work.
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You have to be willing to roll around with the opponent, which can be very undesirable. If there's more than one then you're screwed.

I disagree that aikido is ineffective - it's just how well you understand it.
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Re: Has anyone ever used the art of Aikido in a fight to defend yourself ?
Aiki-do is suppose to be one with other energies.

So you are suppose to use any strength.

On of the teacher is called Touhei Koichi.
Big guys tried to push him but they cannot.



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Re: Has anyone ever used the art of Aikido in a fight to defend yourself ?
I've never seen it used in a streetfight. Just in movies.

Brazilian Jiu-Jistu is the best martial for practical self-defense. Stick with what is proven to actually work.
 Quoting: ThereIsNoEye


You have to be willing to roll around with the opponent, which can be very undesirable. If there's more than one then you're screwed.

I disagree that aikido is ineffective - it's just how well you understand it.
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If there's more than one, you're probably screwed no matter what you plan on doing...unless that plan involves removing yourself from the situation immediately.
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Re: Has anyone ever used the art of Aikido in a fight to defend yourself ?
When one is a master of energy one can do these kind of demos.


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Re: Has anyone ever used the art of Aikido in a fight to defend yourself ?
I've never seen it used in a streetfight. Just in movies.

Brazilian Jiu-Jistu is the best martial for practical self-defense. Stick with what is proven to actually work.
 Quoting: ThereIsNoEye


You have to be willing to roll around with the opponent, which can be very undesirable. If there's more than one then you're screwed.

I disagree that aikido is ineffective - it's just how well you understand it.
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If there's more than one, you're probably screwed no matter what you plan on doing...unless that plan involves removing yourself from the situation immediately.
 Quoting: ThereIsNoEye


If you can't handle two then YOUR KUNG-FU, IT'S JUST NO GOOD.

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Re: Has anyone ever used the art of Aikido in a fight to defend yourself ?
Has anyone ever used the art of Aikido in a fight to defend yourself ? Or defend others?
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No....But I've used the art of FTJ before (foot to jaw)...
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Re: Has anyone ever used the art of Aikido in a fight to defend yourself ?
I took aikido briefly. I was impressed with it but didn't stick with it.

The head of the dojo was a woman, 3rd or 4th dan. I vaguely remember some story about her being attacked and the dude being demolished in seconds.
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Re: Has anyone ever used the art of Aikido in a fight to defend yourself ?
if you practise practise practise, ANY martial art will become NATURAL and not 'learned moves and counter attacks'.

:)

I'd love to see an MMA fighter 'protect himself' against a sword (or machete) attack, that would be fun.
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Re: Has anyone ever used the art of Aikido in a fight to defend yourself ?
Looks effective to me!
Way better than karate, imo.
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Re: Has anyone ever used the art of Aikido in a fight to defend yourself ?
I've never once seen an Aikido fighter in the UFC so I doubt it's very useful.
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Steven Seagal uses Aikido...it's all about momentum.
 Quoting: Chip


Haha, Seagal, that fat has been, wannabe fighter and
dress up barbie deputy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5711435


Well, to be fair, he was with Special Forces in Viet Nam.
The Devil would never go down to Georgia.

Eeew.
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Re: Has anyone ever used the art of Aikido in a fight to defend yourself ?
if you practise practise practise, ANY martial art will become NATURAL and not 'learned moves and counter attacks'.

:)

I'd love to see an MMA fighter 'protect himself' against a sword (or machete) attack, that would be fun.
 Quoting: Free Planet 5353202


Knowing your safe zone and closing the distance very quickly would be the number 1 priority. Unless you practice doing that on a regular basis in a non-simulated environment...it's going to be very difficult to do against a real life person.

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Re: Has anyone ever used the art of Aikido in a fight to defend yourself ?
Defend myself, yes. Defend others, yes. To do both both and include your opponent at the same time is the essence of Aikido.
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Re: Has anyone ever used the art of Aikido in a fight to defend yourself ?
Wing chun would be a lot more useful, or judo, or hell just being a solid boxer will win most fights.
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I am a master in full contact origami.
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uh...isn't that what guns are for? the ancient art of shick shack click boom boom. Controlled pairs are preferred, just sayin...
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Has anyone ever used the art of Aikido in a fight to defend yourself ? Or defend others?
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Used Jujutsu ....not Aikido.

Effective.
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guns kill your opponent in most cases. Killing is the last thing you want to have to do in aikido.
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guns kill your opponent in most cases. Killing is the last thing you want to have to do in aikido.
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well if you want to be all peaceful like then don't place yourself in the position to be attacked, seems like if you want to use a martial art then you will apply that principal. isolate yourself from threats, they have won, walk like a lion and ensure that you are casting the shadow of death and I guarantee you will not fear evil :)
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Re: Has anyone ever used the art of Aikido in a fight to defend yourself ?
Hung Gar Kung Fu. Tiger Crane form:

[link to www.youtube.com]

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guns kill your opponent in most cases. Killing is the last thing you want to have to do in aikido.
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well if you want to be all peaceful like then don't place yourself in the position to be attacked, seems like if you want to use a martial art then you will apply that principal. isolate yourself from threats, they have won, walk like a lion and ensure that you are casting the shadow of death and I guarantee you will not fear evil :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6324438


The goal is not to live in fear or be aloof to fighting for worthwhile causes or others. The goal is to generate honorable victories in which opponents are respected and even loved. You are not looking for fights or trying to destroy but you develop confidence to defend against aggressors, and try through honorable action and consummate skill to persuade the opponent to give up and join your cause. Weapons maybe necessary to practice the art of peace, but the goal is always minimal destruction and maximum possible redemption
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Re: Has anyone ever used the art of Aikido in a fight to defend yourself ?
Krav maga. ...some boxing. ....bjg....couple months of each