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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1182390 United States 11/21/2011 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This preacher shocked everyone with this message! its terrifying to think he is correct that the vast majority of us are heading for eternal hell ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5791004 No my heart just fills with joy to see the truth preached !!! Great thread OP !!! OK, Ireland, serious question... what are you propagating all your talk for? So seeds can be planted and for the Great Yahweh to water them !!! I'm sorry, but you are among the tares, because you teach people to look outside themselves for their savior. Judging another and calling them a tare? Hmm....sounds like EGO & more separation. |
Col User ID: 5670747 United States 11/21/2011 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This preacher shocked everyone with this message! its terrifying to think he is correct that the vast majority of us are heading for eternal hell According to Jesus Paul was an apostle. All early Christians accepted Paul as canon long before formal canonization. Jesus Peter and Paul all agree about the fate of Israel.. Mat.21:43,48 Therefore say I to you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. Mat.23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left to you desolate. John 4:22,23 You worship you know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the jewish people. But the hour comes, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeks such to worship him. Acts 13:46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you [jewish people]: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles. Acts 18:5,6 Paul was pressed in the spirit, and testified to the jewish people that Jesus was Christ. And when they opposed themselves, and blasphemed, he shook his raiment, and said unto them, Your blood be upon your own heads; I am clean; from henceforth I will go unto the Gentiles. Acts 22:19-21 And I said, Lord, they know that I imprisoned and beat in every synagogue them that believed on thee: And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment of them that slew him. And he said unto me, Depart: for I will send thee far hence unto the Gentiles. Ro.2:17 Behold, thou art called a jewish, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God.....25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision. 26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision? 27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law? 28 For he is not a jewish, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he is a jewish, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. Ro.9:6,7 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. Gal.3:7 Know you therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. Gal.3:16,28,29 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.....There is neither jewish nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you be Christ's, then are you Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Gal.6:15,16 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision avails any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and on the Israel of God. Phil.3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh. 1 Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that you should show forth the praises of him who has called you out of darkness into his marvelous light; Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5791004 Ireland 11/21/2011 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This preacher shocked everyone with this message! its terrifying to think he is correct that the vast majority of us are heading for eternal hell I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! Revelation 3:15 So, because you are lukewarm--neither hot nor cold--I am about to spit you out of my mouth. Revelation 3:16 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5791004 Ireland 11/21/2011 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This preacher shocked everyone with this message! its terrifying to think he is correct that the vast majority of us are heading for eternal hell ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5791004 No my heart just fills with joy to see the truth preached !!! Great thread OP !!! OK, Ireland, serious question... what are you propagating all your talk for? So seeds can be planted and for the Great Yahweh to water them !!! I'm sorry, but you are among the tares, because you teach people to look outside themselves for their savior. Show where I did or are you lying ??? |
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Col User ID: 5670747 United States 11/21/2011 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This preacher shocked everyone with this message! its terrifying to think he is correct that the vast majority of us are heading for eternal hell Will the vast majority be lost? Jesus said.. "As it was in the days of Noah." Another passage Jesus cites Sodom as an example of the fire to come. How many were saved at those times? Eight at the flood and only Lot's family out of the five plane cities around Sodom. We are further told the whole world is deceived and all who follow the babylonian beast will be cast alive into the lake of fire at the end of the world! However, at the time of the French Revolution we witnessed in history fulfillment of prophecy when the beast Romanist were slaughtered. This was primarily the priests and kings. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5791004 Ireland 11/21/2011 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This preacher shocked everyone with this message! its terrifying to think he is correct that the vast majority of us are heading for eternal hell According to Jesus Paul was an apostle. All early Christians accepted Paul as canon There were only 12 Apostles , one for each tribe of Israel . And only they were given Authority . Paul was not one . Read your Bible more ! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1182390 United States 11/21/2011 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This preacher shocked everyone with this message! its terrifying to think he is correct that the vast majority of us are heading for eternal hell Look at what a good job the powers that be have done to separate us. Look at all the arguing going on when not one single person responding to this post knows what the universal truth is. NOT ONE SINGLE ONE OF US has this knowledge. Not yet any way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1182390 Jesus, the wonderful master that he was/is would NOT want this type of separation and arguing to occur. This is so opposite what he taught. When are we all going to wake up, embrace each other for our differences, honor one another just as we are without judgement and open our hearts with love. We are all ONE. It is time to UNITE. This nonsense about who is wrong and right with regards to religion/spirituality etc. lowers your vibration and dims your light. This is how they win! Fear is a tool they use, an energetic tool of the dark. Stop feeding it. These types of disagreements are ego driven. If we are to evolve as spiritual beings, we must let go of the ego. Wisdom Thank you. Most will miss this because they are intent on winning an argument that cannot be won. |
Life and Love User ID: 1164971 United States 11/21/2011 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This preacher shocked everyone with this message! its terrifying to think he is correct that the vast majority of us are heading for eternal hell Look at what a good job the powers that be have done to separate us. Look at all the arguing going on when not one single person responding to this post knows what the universal truth is. NOT ONE SINGLE ONE OF US has this knowledge. Not yet any way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1182390 Jesus, the wonderful master that he was/is would NOT want this type of separation and arguing to occur. This is so opposite what he taught. When are we all going to wake up, embrace each other for our differences, honor one another just as we are without judgement and open our hearts with love. We are all ONE. It is time to UNITE. This nonsense about who is wrong and right with regards to religion/spirituality etc. lowers your vibration and dims your light. This is how they win! Fear is a tool they use, an energetic tool of the dark. Stop feeding it. These types of disagreements are ego driven. If we are to evolve as spiritual beings, we must let go of the ego. Wisdom Thank you. Most will miss this because they are intent on winning an argument that cannot be won. Seems to be standard operating procedure around here. :) Edit to add: So many seem to be "infected" with the need to be "right." Last Edited by Life and Love on 11/21/2011 12:12 PM We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5791004 Ireland 11/21/2011 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This preacher shocked everyone with this message! its terrifying to think he is correct that the vast majority of us are heading for eternal hell According to Jesus Paul was an apostle. All early Christians accepted Paul as canon There were only 12 Apostles , one for each tribe of Israel . And only they were given Authority . Paul was not one . Read your Bible more ! He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel." Matthew 15:24 Who are Israel ??? We are Israel !!! |
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Mindlouka User ID: 5787328 Portugal 11/21/2011 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This preacher shocked everyone with this message! its terrifying to think he is correct that the vast majority of us are heading for eternal hell This discussion is getting ridiculous now...You are what TPTB want: controlled and blind sheep. You are doing well the "Divide and Conquer". That is what religion is for...(along with politics...) To turn ALL against each other,to live in fear. BTW,you are all living your lifes according to a book that was copied from other ancient sumerian manuscripts,did you even know the true name of your "god"?! Just to make you think,read this open mindly: [link to sabbathrock.com] The best way to find the true spirituality in within you, NOT OUTSIDE.Don't look for priests or prophets to tell you what to think.THINK FOR YOURSELF. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5791421 United States 11/21/2011 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This preacher shocked everyone with this message! its terrifying to think he is correct that the vast majority of us are heading for eternal hell Paul Washer = empty talker, false prophet Quoting: DSL Connector If he were a true prophet his web site would come down hard on things like homosexuality, fornication, adultery, etc. Instead, his web site talks about supporting these (corrupt) 501-c, tax exempt churches we have today. The Scriptures warn us in many places about false prophets. Here are just a few: Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Mark 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect. 2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. The ones above that Christ tells about are "end of the age" prophecies. The Book of Revelation also talks about false prophets. [link to www.biblelanding.com] ^This^ And note that none of the above is taken from the "apostle" paul. Hmmm... [link to yahuah.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5791004 Ireland 11/21/2011 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This preacher shocked everyone with this message! its terrifying to think he is correct that the vast majority of us are heading for eternal hell Paul Washer = empty talker, false prophet Quoting: DSL Connector If he were a true prophet his web site would come down hard on things like homosexuality, fornication, adultery, etc. Instead, his web site talks about supporting these (corrupt) 501-c, tax exempt churches we have today. The Scriptures warn us in many places about false prophets. Here are just a few: Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Mark 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect. 2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. The ones above that Christ tells about are "end of the age" prophecies. The Book of Revelation also talks about false prophets. [link to www.biblelanding.com] ^This^ And note that none of the above is taken from the "apostle" paul. Hmmm... [link to yahuah.org] Please provide evidence for these allegations . And that is simply your opinion that those verses apply to Paul Washer . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5791004 Ireland 11/21/2011 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This preacher shocked everyone with this message! its terrifying to think he is correct that the vast majority of us are heading for eternal hell The people have always done that , they know that they cannot attack the message because it is 100% Biblical so they go after the messenger with unfounded lies !!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5791004 Ireland 11/21/2011 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This preacher shocked everyone with this message! its terrifying to think he is correct that the vast majority of us are heading for eternal hell maybe we should start by behaving like He told us to be known, recognized, by how we LOVE eachother huh? Maybe you should practice what you preach ! Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him." John 14:21 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5786152 Spain 11/21/2011 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This preacher shocked everyone with this message! its terrifying to think he is correct that the vast majority of us are heading for eternal hell maybe we should start by behaving like He told us to be known, recognized, by how we LOVE eachother huh? Maybe you should practice what you preach ! Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him." John 14:21 Definitely..I have a lot to learn and a lot to change True |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5791004 Ireland 11/21/2011 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This preacher shocked everyone with this message! its terrifying to think he is correct that the vast majority of us are heading for eternal hell maybe we should start by behaving like He told us to be known, recognized, by how we LOVE eachother huh? Maybe you should practice what you preach ! Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him." John 14:21 Definitely..I have a lot to learn and a lot to change True God bless you ! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5786152 Spain 11/21/2011 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This preacher shocked everyone with this message! its terrifying to think he is correct that the vast majority of us are heading for eternal hell ... Quoting: wildhoney maybe we should start by behaving like He told us to be known, recognized, by how we LOVE eachother huh? Maybe you should practice what you preach ! Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him." John 14:21 Definitely..I have a lot to learn and a lot to change True God bless you ! Hey thank you thats very nice of you God Bless You Too |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5791004 Ireland 11/21/2011 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This preacher shocked everyone with this message! its terrifying to think he is correct that the vast majority of us are heading for eternal hell ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5791004 Maybe you should practice what you preach ! Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him." John 14:21 Definitely..I have a lot to learn and a lot to change True God bless you ! Hey thank you thats very nice of you God Bless You Too |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5638426 United States 11/21/2011 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This preacher shocked everyone with this message! its terrifying to think he is correct that the vast majority of us are heading for eternal hell If you wantsomeone to change what do you do..shout..threaten..scare them? Quoting: wildhoney or love them and with gentleness ..joy..kindness teachings make them see the errors of their ways? sure you wont win them all but Im ready to bet youll get more with Love than with fear..and you will make some souls happy by loving them..and that is so so very important The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; all who follow his precepts have good understanding. To him belongs eternal praise. Psalm 111:10 To "fear" the Lord means to take Him serious. Furthermore, perfect love casts out fear. . .does God call us to harbor literal fear when He's just going to rinse it away as we reach maturity? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1313099 United States 11/21/2011 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This preacher shocked everyone with this message! its terrifying to think he is correct that the vast majority of us are heading for eternal hell If you wantsomeone to change what do you do..shout..threaten..scare them? Quoting: wildhoney or love them and with gentleness ..joy..kindness teachings make them see the errors of their ways? sure you wont win them all but Im ready to bet youll get more with Love than with fear..and you will make some souls happy by loving them..and that is so so very important The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; all who follow his precepts have good understanding. To him belongs eternal praise. Psalm 111:10 To "fear" the Lord means to take Him serious. Furthermore, perfect love casts out fear. . .does God call us to harbor literal fear when He's just going to rinse it away as we reach maturity? amen |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5791004 Ireland 11/21/2011 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This preacher shocked everyone with this message! its terrifying to think he is correct that the vast majority of us are heading for eternal hell If you wantsomeone to change what do you do..shout..threaten..scare them? Quoting: wildhoney or love them and with gentleness ..joy..kindness teachings make them see the errors of their ways? sure you wont win them all but Im ready to bet youll get more with Love than with fear..and you will make some souls happy by loving them..and that is so so very important The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; all who follow his precepts have good understanding. To him belongs eternal praise. Psalm 111:10 To "fear" the Lord means to take Him serious. Furthermore, perfect love casts out fear. . .does God call us to harbor literal fear when He's just going to rinse it away as we reach maturity? No , that is only your interpretation of it , to fear the Lord means to fear the Lord . It should be taken literally . We are Commanded to fear God , if you disagree with that , well that is between you and God then . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5638426 United States 11/21/2011 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: This preacher shocked everyone with this message! its terrifying to think he is correct that the vast majority of us are heading for eternal hell If you wantsomeone to change what do you do..shout..threaten..scare them? Quoting: wildhoney or love them and with gentleness ..joy..kindness teachings make them see the errors of their ways? sure you wont win them all but Im ready to bet youll get more with Love than with fear..and you will make some souls happy by loving them..and that is so so very important The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; all who follow his precepts have good understanding. To him belongs eternal praise. Psalm 111:10 To "fear" the Lord means to take Him serious. Furthermore, perfect love casts out fear. . .does God call us to harbor literal fear when He's just going to rinse it away as we reach maturity? No , that is only your interpretation of it , to fear the Lord means to fear the Lord . It should be taken literally . We are Commanded to fear God , if you disagree with that , well that is between you and God then . Yeah, this is stuff I've been studying. The bible is rumored to state the phrase "fear not" something like 365 times (I've never counted it, though). Isn't that at least a little bit contradictory with a directive to be afraid of God? |