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VACCINES DO NOT IMMUNIZE!

 
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Polio and smallpox was almost gone by the time they started vaccinate because people got more careful with their hygiene. Check history.
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Only if you consider 60,000 cases a year "almost gone":

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In the future the world will look on doctors injecting children with poison the same way we look at them cutting and bleeding out sick people like they did in the past. Doctors have always been monsters.
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Well put.
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nonsense. The thing you, nor the op realize is that Vaccines work by using your bodies immune system. You inject a dead or weakened virus into a person, their body builds anti bodies, and they gain immunity. If attacked by a real virus, they have defense.


Polio and smallpox arent exactly big anymore...geee I wonder why?

Oh, I know, its the world wide vaccination campaigns that crushed those diseases.

You Anti-Vax'ers haven't the slightest clue how the human immune system works.


Now adays they have a chicken pox vaccine but back when I was a kid we had to catch it to gain immunity...why? Becuase the virus' presence caused the body to build antibodies.

Vaccines allow immunity without having to suffer the infection.
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They are called T.cells. However every single vaccine you inject into your blood is contaminated.
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I have custody of my 7 yr old granddaughter, she is due for her chicken pox vaccine, I am a little apprehesive at this time to her getting it, does anyone know if it is really imperative that she gets it????

The school informed me that if there is a break out she will have to stay home, that is what the school informed me about.
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"really important"? somehow children survived for thousands of years without the vaccine... so I guess it depends on what you mean by really important. If you think is important that the child receive an immunosuppressive bunch of metals, toxins, stealth viruses and government eugenic type "stuff"... then sure its important to get the shot.
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Over 2 Billion dollars paid out and well over 2000 claims settled for vaccine related injury since the NVIC was created in 1989. Let me add that these figures represent only a FRACTION of damages that rightfully should be paid to families that suffered vaccine-induced damages. Thousands, maybe a million or more families, are left with life-long-damaged children and medical bills that will be overwhelmingly expensive and probably not compensated for.
Just imagine if there were over two thousand product injuries from automobiles, baby cribs, or food salmonella poisonings! What would congress do about them? Vaccine damage is no different. Vaccines and their health-damaging toxins need to be investigated. But they won't be because the politicians and "so-called" medical professionals have long since been bought and paid for.
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I have custody of my 7 yr old granddaughter, she is due for her chicken pox vaccine, I am a little apprehesive at this time to her getting it, does anyone know if it is really imperative that she gets it????

The school informed me that if there is a break out she will have to stay home, that is what the school informed me about.
 Quoting: Being Mindful


"really important"? somehow children survived for thousands of years without the vaccine... so I guess it depends on what you mean by really important. If you think is important that the child receive an immunosuppressive bunch of metals, toxins, stealth viruses and government eugenic type "stuff"... then sure its important to get the shot.
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I would rather have her catch the chicken pox while young. I caught it as a teen(after my mom was unsuccessful in having me catch it as a kid) and it wasn't that bad and have no scars. Just read up on what to do naturally for her in case she does get it. Some kids have gotten the pox from the vaccine and it can be worse than the natural pox.
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I have custody of my 7 yr old granddaughter, she is due for her chicken pox vaccine, I am a little apprehesive at this time to her getting it, does anyone know if it is really imperative that she gets it????

The school informed me that if there is a break out she will have to stay home, that is what the school informed me about.
 Quoting: Being Mindful


Chicken pox are a matter of childhood. Everyone gets them, they have an outbreak, then they are granted permanent life long immunity. Only a very, very tiny minority will ever get chicken pox twice in their life time, and if they do, it will be as a result of a compromised immune system.

"Varicella, commonly known in the United States as chickenpox, is caused by the varicella-zoster virus. The disease is generally regarded as a mild, self-limiting viral illness with occasional complications. Varicella is common and highly contagious and affects nearly all susceptible children before adolescence. Although most varicella infection confers life-long immunity, varicella clinical reinfections among healthy children have been described.[1] (See Pathophysiology and Etiology.)

Before vaccination for varicella became widespread in the United States, this disease affected approximately 4 million children per year."


According to Wiki, the vaccine is 70-90% effective.

While natural infection of the very mild virus, provides a life-long immunity upwards of 98%.

MODERATE PROBLEMS with the vaccine, seizures and jerking.

According to the researchers, over a two year period there would be two deaths per 1,500 children with febrile seizures, as opposed to one death per 1,500 children in the general population.

Read more: [link to news.injuryboard.com]

Severe Problems with the vaccine - Pneumonia

Pneumonia is the leading cause of death in children worldwide. Pneumonia kills an estimated 1.4 million children under the age of five years every year – more than AIDS, malaria and tuberculosis combined. Pneumonia can be caused by viruses, bacteria or fungi.

Other serious problems, including severe brain reactions and low blood count, have been reported after chickenpox vaccination.

So before the vaccine, chicken pox only affected approximately 4 million children per year, and caused only 100 deaths in children annually. Yet with all the vaccine side effects and the number of times one must take this vaccine to be protected, they want us to believe we as parents are misguided if we choose to allow our children to build a natural immunity as opposed to their chemical one that doesn't work for more than 6 years and has side effects that could and do kill children.
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I have custody of my 7 yr old granddaughter, she is due for her chicken pox vaccine, I am a little apprehesive at this time to her getting it, does anyone know if it is really imperative that she gets it????

The school informed me that if there is a break out she will have to stay home, that is what the school informed me about.
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"really important"? somehow children survived for thousands of years without the vaccine... so I guess it depends on what you mean by really important. If you think is important that the child receive an immunosuppressive bunch of metals, toxins, stealth viruses and government eugenic type "stuff"... then sure its important to get the shot.
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thankyou for your comment, but gee oh my arn't we passive agresssive now!!
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People keep tossing around the term "immune system" as if they actually knew what such a thing was or even how it operates.

The vast majority of what we have been taught about how the human organism functions is mythology.

**There is no such thing as "pathogenic" microbes.**

Bacterium, molds, fungi, parasites feed upon degenerative tissue and cellular waste. Virus are not alive. Cancer cells are created by the human organism and contain potent dissolution compounds.

The medical industry will always dis-cover bacteria in the presence of disease states within the organism. Why? because we are more bacteria than we are human cells and the only thing "professionals" analyze and test for are microbial agents. There will never be a shortage of scapegoats for this dominating industry of the day.

The so-called "immune system" is simply the channels of waste collection and removal. The lymphatic system is composed of lymph fluid / white blood cells. White blood cells are simply fatty cells. Fat acts as a magnet and chelator of toxic compounds (i.e. heavy metallic substances and dead cellular debris).

Small pox was mass-poisoning and genocide.

Spanish flu was the result of a mass vaccination campaign targeted at military personal.

The "black plague" was the result of widespread heavy metal poisoning through the enormous influx and use of coal contaminated with lead. The atrocious ventilation systems compounded this poisoning.

Microbes are NOT indiscriminately destructive. Microbes are programmed to CONSUME organic waste material. They do not feed on healthy tissue. They will always be found in the presence of cellular toxicity and poisoning because they are janitorial in nature.

Virus are NOT indiscriminately destructive. They are NOT ALIVE. They do not take over host cells and begin to self-replicate. That theory is preposterous. The REALITY is that a human organism will UTILIZE blueprints to manufacture virus within host cells. Viruses are crystalline structures composed of protein waste, RNA and DNA. They are programmed to target cellular waste. They are a last resort mechanism and mode of cleansing by the organism itself.

Why? Because cellular tissue becomes inundated with industrial waste and synthetic compounds (i.e. pharmacuetical compounds) which are so overtly toxic that they destroy all life. Hence, no feeding action of microbes. The body must resort to something such as a virus. Viruses dissolve. When their action is complete they go dormant. That is why so many can be non-symptomatic carriers of virus!

I will continue on if anyone is interested to hear more.

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Anyone still believing those fucking needle filled with poison are meant to 'protect' us are past the point of ever awakening!

Go and read what the they are injecting into the idiot sheeple who still fall for their organized genocide.

Aluminum
Thimerosal aka MERCURY
and...

Formaldehyde! Fucking embalming fluid for Christ sake!

Chicken egg embryo - aborted fetal tissue - monkey kidney cells!
[link to www.informedchoice.info]

I am 41 years old and i have NEVER had a vaccine! My parents wouldnt allow it (thank GOD). I have NEVER had a severe illness other then the occasional snotty nose and sore throat!
My son is 5 years old and he has NEVER had one single vaccine... and NO .. not even the 'mandatory' ones your suppose to start poisoning them with as soon as they are born.
He is one of the only kindergartners in his school who has not been sick one single day!


FUCK that bullshit indoctrination/murder

Everyone remember ole G Bush breaking into live broadcast the 'horrible' bird flu panda-mic he assured we would all die from unless we ran to the doctor and injected his poison?
LOL!! How many of you fell for that shit? Well guess who owned stock in the the 'bird flu' vaccine? Ha.. google it, its not hard to find.

This video says everything common fucking sense SHOULD tell you.

[link to www.youtube.com]


Bill fucking Gates even TOLD you people the best way to control the population (depopulate it) was by the use of VACCINES!

The government SHILLS on this forum are AMAZINGLY obvious and amazingly STUPID... or paid well to act stupid.


flip ---> CDC
flip ---> Government
flip ---> FDA
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Anyone still believing those fucking needle filled with poison are meant to 'protect' us are past the point of ever awakening!

Go and read what the they are injecting into the idiot sheeple who still fall for their organized genocide.

Aluminum
Thimerosal aka MERCURY
and...

Formaldehyde! Fucking embalming fluid for Christ sake!

Chicken egg embryo - aborted fetal tissue - monkey kidney cells!
[link to www.informedchoice.info]

I am 41 years old and i have NEVER had a vaccine! My parents wouldnt allow it (thank GOD). I have NEVER had a severe illness other then the occasional snotty nose and sore throat!
My son is 5 years old and he has NEVER had one single vaccine... and NO .. not even the 'mandatory' ones your suppose to start poisoning them with as soon as they are born.
He is one of the only kindergartners in his school who has not been sick one single day!


FUCK that bullshit indoctrination/murder

Everyone remember ole G Bush breaking into live broadcast the 'horrible' bird flu panda-mic he assured we would all die from unless we ran to the doctor and injected his poison?
LOL!! How many of you fell for that shit? Well guess who owned stock in the the 'bird flu' vaccine? Ha.. google it, its not hard to find.

This video says everything common fucking sense SHOULD tell you.

[link to www.youtube.com]


Bill fucking Gates even TOLD you people the best way to control the population (depopulate it) was by the use of VACCINES!

The government SHILLS on this forum are AMAZINGLY obvious and amazingly STUPID... or paid well to act stupid.


flip ---> CDC
flip ---> Government
flip ---> FDA
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clappa
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People keep tossing around the term "immune system" as if they actually knew what such a thing was or even how it operates.

The vast majority of what we have been taught about how the human organism functions is mythology.

**There is no such thing as "pathogenic" microbes.**

Bacterium, molds, fungi, parasites feed upon degenerative tissue and cellular waste. Virus are not alive. Cancer cells are created by the human organism and contain potent dissolution compounds.

The medical industry will always dis-cover bacteria in the presence of disease states within the organism. Why? because we are more bacteria than we are human cells and the only thing "professionals" analyze and test for are microbial agents. There will never be a shortage of scapegoats for this dominating industry of the day.

The so-called "immune system" is simply the channels of waste collection and removal. The lymphatic system is composed of lymph fluid / white blood cells. White blood cells are simply fatty cells. Fat acts as a magnet and chelator of toxic compounds (i.e. heavy metallic substances and dead cellular debris).

Small pox was mass-poisoning and genocide.

Spanish flu was the result of a mass vaccination campaign targeted at military personal.

The "black plague" was the result of widespread heavy metal poisoning through the enormous influx and use of coal contaminated with lead. The atrocious ventilation systems compounded this poisoning.

Microbes are NOT indiscriminately destructive. Microbes are programmed to CONSUME organic waste material. They do not feed on healthy tissue. They will always be found in the presence of cellular toxicity and poisoning because they are janitorial in nature.

Virus are NOT indiscriminately destructive. They are NOT ALIVE. They do not take over host cells and begin to self-replicate. That theory is preposterous. The REALITY is that a human organism will UTILIZE blueprints to manufacture virus within host cells. Viruses are crystalline structures composed of protein waste, RNA and DNA. They are programmed to target cellular waste. They are a last resort mechanism and mode of cleansing by the organism itself.

Why? Because cellular tissue becomes inundated with industrial waste and synthetic compounds (i.e. pharmacuetical compounds) which are so overtly toxic that they destroy all life. Hence, no feeding action of microbes. The body must resort to something such as a virus. Viruses dissolve. When their action is complete they go dormant. That is why so many can be non-symptomatic carriers of virus!

I will continue on if anyone is interested to hear more.
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Please continue.
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This is what everyone needs to watch out for- also if you do get a flu shot make sure it has H5N1 in it.

H5N1 virus is an influenza A virus subtype that is highly contagious among birds, and can be deadly to them. The H5N1 (Bird) flu virus does not usually infect people, but rare infections with these viruses have occurred in humans. Nearly all human cases have resulted from people having direct or close contact with H5N1-infected poultry or H5N1-contaminated surfaces.



Edit: Swine flu was a marketing tool used by pharmaceutical companies and school to sale flu. Exp: Cvs,Walgreens,Family Medical Practices and now churches. This made me rich and also the company I work for@ Kinda strange that is all flu cases died down when school was let out for summer of 2010!.

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A nice little data blast using the CDC’s recommended vaccine schedule from 0 to 6 years of age and the vaccine ingredient lists given in the CDC’s Pink Book and the end vaccine count at 6 years if one follows this schedule with a flu vaccine every year from 6 months is around 33 vaccines.

Thats a hell of a lot of chemicals been injected into children even before they reach their 7th birthday and I'm sure the whole chemical burden could be worked out in time.

CDC schedule
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CDC pink book
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Not all of the chemicals listed under each vaccine are in one vaccine but its every chemical listed as been used in the different vaccines by each maker. There are even a few I’ve not listed due to the time it’s taken to wade through the sheer amount of vaccines around.

Hepatitis B vaccine (HepB) – 4 vaccines - Aluminium Hydroxyphosphate Sulfate, Amino Acids, Dextrose, Formaldehyde or Formalin, Mineral Salts, Potassium Aluminium Sulfate, Soy Peptone, Yeast Protein

Rotavirus vaccine (RV) – 3 vaccines - Cell Culture Media, Fetal Bovine Serum, Sodium Citrate, Sodium Phosphate Monobasic Monohydrate, Sodium Hydroxide Sucrose, Polysorbate 80, Amino Acids, Calcium Carbonate, Calcium Chloride, D-glucose, Dextran, Ferric (III) Nitrate, L-cystine, L-tyrosine, Magnesium Sulfate, Phenol Red, Potassium Chloride, Sodium Hydrogenocarbonate, Sodium Phosphate, Sodium L-glutamine, Sodium Pyruvate, Sorbitol, Sucrose, Vitamins, Xanthan

Diphtheria and tetanus toxoids and acellular pertussis vaccine (DTaP). – 4 Vaccines - Aluminium Phosphate, Ammonium Sulfate, Casamino Acid, Dimethyl-beta-cyclodextrin, Formaldehyde or Formalin, 2-Phenoxyethanol, Aluminium Hydroxide, Bovine Extract, Glutaraldhyde, 2-Phenoxyethanol, Polysorbate 80, Aluminium Potassium Sulfate,

Haemophilus influenzae type b conjugate vaccine (Hib. – 4 vaccines - Ammonium Sulfate, Formaldehyde or Formalin, Sucrose, Lactose, Aluminium Hydroxyphosphate Sulfate

Pneumococcal vaccine. – 4 vaccines - Bovine Protein, Phenol, Aluminium Phosphate, Amino Acid, Soy Peptone, Yeast Extract, Polysorbate 80, Soy Peptone, Succinate Buffer,

Inactivated polio virus vaccine (IPV. – 4-5 vaccines - neomycin, streptomycin, polymyxin B, formaldehyde, calf serum proteins, and 2-phenoxyethanol

Influenza vaccine (seasonal) – 6 vaccines from 6 months if going to recommend schedule - Beta-Propiolactone, Calcium Chloride, Neomycin, Ovalbumin, Polymyxin B, Potassium Chloride, Potassium Phosphate, Sodium Phosphate, Sodium Taurodeoxychoalate, Cetyltrimethylammonium Bromide (CTAB), Kanamycin, Neomycin Sulfate, Polysorbate 80, Egg Albumin (Ovalbumin), Egg Protein, Gentamicin, Hydrocortisone, ctoxynol-10, a-Tocopheryl Hydrogen Succinate, Sodium Phosphate, Thimerosal* Egg Albumin (Ovalbumin), Formaldehyde or Formalin, Sodium Deoxycholate, Phosphate Buffers, Thimerosal, Polymyxin B, Polyoxyethylene 9-10 Nonyl Phenol (Triton N-101, Octoxynol 9), Chick Kidney Cells, Egg Protein, Gentamicin Sulfate, Monosodium Glutamate, Sucrose Phosphate, Glutamate Buffer

Measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine (MMR) – 2 Vaccines - Bovine Albumin or Serum, Gelatin, Human Serum Albumin, Monosodium L-glutamate, MRC-5 Cellular Protein, Neomycin, Sodium Phosphate Dibasic, Sodium Bicarbonate, Sorbitol, Sucrose, Potassium Phosphate Monobasic,Potassium Chloride, Potassium Phosphate Dibasic, Bovine Albumin or Serum, Chick Embryo Fibroblasts, Human Serum Albumin, Glutamate, Phosphate Buffers, Sorbitol, Sucrose, Vitamins

Varicella vaccine. – 2 Vaccines - Bovine Albumin or Serum, Ethylenediamine-Tetraacetic Acid Sodium (EDTA), Gelatin, Monosodium L-Glutamate, MRC-5 DNA and Cellular Protein, Neomycin, Potassium Chloride, Potassium Phosphate Monobasic, Sodium Phosphate Monobasic, Sucrose

Hepatitis A vaccine (HepA. – 2 vaccines – Aluminium Hydroxide, Amino Acids, Formaldehyde or Formalin, MRC-5 Cellular Protein, Neomycin Sulfate, 2-Phenoxyethanol, Phosphate Buffers, Polysorbate, Aluminium Hydroxyphosphate Sulfate, Bovine Albumin or Serum, DN MRC-5 Cellular Protein, Sodium Borate.

............................................................


Just picked out a few from the list and here’s just a little of what I could find out about the chemicals but from these few I would say they have no business been in a vaccine well other than the business of sickness.

Aluminium Hydroxyphosphate Sulfate (Adjuvant) - may lead to the syndrome macrophagic myofascitis, a histological finding where aluminium-containing macrophages infiltrate muscle tissue, and may be accompanied by a clinical syndrome of myalgia, arthralgia and fatigue is also neurotoxic.

Formaldehyde (Attenuating agent, Preservative, Disinfectant) - Ranked as one of the most hazardous compounds (worst 10%) to ecosystems and human health, Probable Human Carcinogen

Polysorbate 80 (Detergent, Emulsifier, Solubilizer) - ability to increase cell permeability, damage, and bursting. After injection they can rapidly metabolize into sorbitol and ethylene oxide which is much more toxic than the original chemical. When Polysorbate 80 breaks down there are 20 moles of ethylene oxide for every mole of sorbitol. These polysorbates have been shown to cause dangerous, sometimes fatal effects, when given through a needle. Changes in heart function can occur immediately. The blood-brain-barrier (BBB) can be weakened and penetrated, followed by seizures and even death. Anaphylactic and other reactions can occur. Infants are particularly susceptible (some math analysis here). These polysorbates also demonstrate synergistic toxicity with a range of chemicals, also linked to infertility.

2-Phenoxyethanol/Phenol - Toxic to all cells and capable of disabling the immune system's primary response mechanism

Polymyxin B (antibiotic) – destructive to kidney cells (nephrotoxic) alters the normal activity of the nervous system (Neurotoxic)

Octoxynol 9 or 10(Detergent) - typically contain traces of the toxins ethylene oxide, dioxane, C9 phenols, or glycol ether.

Neomycin Sulfate - Known human immune system toxicant,

Glutaraldhyde (disinfectant, fixative) – Suspected developmental toxicant, immunotoxicant, reproductive toxicant, respiratory toxicant, skin or sense organ toxicant. Poisonous if ingested. Causes birth defects in experimental animals.

Gentamicin Sulfate (antibiotic) – damage to the ear specifically the cochlea or auditory nerve and sometimes the vestibular system (Ototoxic) is also (Nephrotoxic).

For those wishing to explore the chemical side further
[link to www.novaccine.com]
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This is what everyone needs to watch out for- also if you do get a flu shot make sure it has H5N1 in it.

H5N1 virus is an influenza A virus subtype that is highly contagious among birds, and can be deadly to them. The H5N1 (Bird) flu virus does not usually infect people, but rare infections with these viruses have occurred in humans. Nearly all human cases have resulted from people having direct or close contact with H5N1-infected poultry or H5N1-contaminated surfaces.



Edit: Swine flu was a marketing tool used by pharmaceutical companies and school to sale flu. Exp: Cvs,Walgreens,Family Medical Practices and now churches. This made me rich and also the company I work for@ Kinda strange that is all flu cases died down when school was let out for summer of 2010!.
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DON'T GET A FLU SHOT, NO MATTER WHAT>

"This [swine flu hoax pandemic] made me rich."
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Well put.
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nonsense. The thing you, nor the op realize is that Vaccines work by using your bodies immune system. You inject a dead or weakened virus into a person, t




Vaccines allow immunity without having to suffer the infection.

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But they don't work.
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Yes, they do.

If you get chicken pox as a kid, you wont get it again? Why? Because the virus' very presence in your blood caused your body to make anti bodies.

The SAME THING happens when you inject someone with a weakened virus. The viruses presence causes the body to build antibodies.

Dont work? Polio and Small pox are gone because they work.

Vaccines work. The evidence backs it.
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geeee, so its like building an air force ahead of time to destroy seagulls?...or deformed flying germs? lolhiding

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This is what everyone needs to watch out for- also if you do get a flu shot make sure it has H5N1 in it.

H5N1 virus is an influenza A virus subtype that is highly contagious among birds, and can be deadly to them. The H5N1 (Bird) flu virus does not usually infect people, but rare infections with these viruses have occurred in humans. Nearly all human cases have resulted from people having direct or close contact with H5N1-infected poultry or H5N1-contaminated surfaces.



Edit: Swine flu was a marketing tool used by pharmaceutical companies and school to sale flu. Exp: Cvs,Walgreens,Family Medical Practices and now churches. This made me rich and also the company I work for@ Kinda strange that is all flu cases died down when school was let out for summer of 2010!.
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DON'T GET A FLU SHOT, NO MATTER WHAT>

"This [swine flu hoax pandemic] made me rich."
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I give you the truth. please spread the word. I give out flu shots when I first started in the business in 2001. I would never give one to any of my family members or friends.
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Please continue.
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A note about Cancer:

Because human organisms no longer know how to eat "food" their bodies degenerate and develop cellular decay as they age. If cells and waste are not eliminated the body will utilize bacterium as its prime mode of decomposition and removal. In many instances cellular waste must be embalmed in order to protect healthy tissue and viable glandular / circulatory systems. Fibrous tissue develops encasing deleterious substances and waste. Modern medicine coins these regions "tumors".

If a human is lucky their body will coalesce live young mutated cells into the fibrous tissue or toxic terrain of the body. These live young mutated cells contain potent dissolution compounds. If the organism is able to achieve a state of vitality which affords greater stamina for elimination purposes these cells will release said solvents and dissolve the fibrous tissue to be sent to the various eliminatory organs. It just so happens that modern medicine also calls these young cells "cancer cells".

When so-called "experts" discover cancer cells they generally have 3 protocols (after cutting, splicing and draining vital fluids):

1. Drench the human organism with radiation.

2. Flood the circulatory systems with chemicals (chemotherapy).

3. Remove huge regions of vital tissue and nerves in order to get rid of the fibrous tissue and 'cancer' cells.


The vast majority of humans who leap into this gauntlet do not survive. When they die they will be heaped atop the mountains of dead. At the end of the day the hideous monster "cancer" receives blame. The mythological war continues on unimpeded due to unquestioning human ignorance.

Last Edited by AlmightyLife on 12/16/2011 05:07 PM
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But they don't work.
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Yes, they do.

If you get chicken pox as a kid, you wont get it again? Why? Because the virus' very presence in your blood caused your body to make anti bodies.

The SAME THING happens when you inject someone with a weakened virus. The viruses presence causes the body to build antibodies.

Dont work? Polio and Small pox are gone because they work.

Vaccines work. The evidence backs it.
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Well, go get yourself all vaxed up then. But don't expect the rest of us to follow.

The dangers are right on the inserts; they are telling you how dangerous they are.

As for me.. no way.
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Vaccines use your bodies immune system!


And to the people posting links to vaccines causing narcolepsy, cancer, are you people that narrow minded?

Correlation does not equal causation.

Secondly, your telling me that out of every environmental factor, peoples daily lives, etc, etc, the only one worth considering is vaccines? Please. this is nonsensical, and this anti vaccination crap is just stupid.
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Vaccines do not use your body's immune system, but instead circumvents it. Normally disease enters the body externally, and is fought during the disease's entrance into the body. Injecting the disease straight into the bloodstream still gives you disease, although a weaker form if it, and your body never develops the immuno response it is supposed to, so when you do come into contact with the disease, your body never fights it off, which in turn prevents the symptoms associated with the disease from showing. In essence, your body becomes tricked into thinking whatever you injected belongs. This also weakens the body's immune system all together, which is why those who are vaccinated regularly usually get sick more often, requiring more visits to the doctor.

It's really all about keeping you at the doctor for the economy, and for population control.

The day I stopped going to doctors was the last time I've been sick in years.
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4 of the recommended vaccines contain polysorbate 80, known to cause infertility (also in the new Gardisil) they're pushing.
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Mercury???

The rate of autism in vaccinated versus unvaccinated population would be a great question to ask.
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They have everything to do with everything when they tell people vaccines are safe and effective and yet so many of the chemicals/ingredients are known to be harmful and you don’t need to be qualified in anything other than common sense to know this or find this out!

Some are neurotoxic and others cause cell damage/ cell death and others are known to cause cancer and the list goes on. ...
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thats fair points, there is a problem when toxic substances are used, albeit they are trace amounts way below safe level. (i'd be far more concerned with accumulated amounts of mercury from sea food weekly or monthly than from a couple of vaccines in a lifetime). however the outright rejecting the whole concept and use of vaccines because of some ingredients some may have is ridiculous. seperate the vaccine for disease X from the vaccination from Pharma Co. whats the debate about then, are people still opposed? some are, and thats what im against, peoples outright ignorance of the underlying vaccines. iirc the mercury containing ones have gone anyway in the UK.
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" A couple of vaccines in a lifetime " ?. If only, but it is not is it.
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Vaccines do not use your body's immune system, but instead circumvents it. Normally disease enters the body externally, and is fought during the disease's entrance into the body. Injecting the disease straight into the bloodstream still gives you disease, although a weaker form if it, and your body never develops the immuno response it is supposed to, so when you do come into contact with the disease, your body never fights it off, which in turn prevents the symptoms associated with the disease from showing. In essence, your body becomes tricked into thinking whatever you injected belongs. This also weakens the body's immune system all together, which is why those who are vaccinated regularly usually get sick more often, requiring more visits to the doctor.

It's really all about keeping you at the doctor for the economy, and for population control.

The day I stopped going to doctors was the last time I've been sick in years.
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Vaccines simply contain synthetic industrial waste compounds and a viable medium for delivery to vital organs.

These waste compounds generally gravitate toward vital organs b/c of their heavy metallic components. They store in brain, bone marrow, spinal tissue, heart and glandular tissue.

"Disease" is simply the result of toxic compounds and waste buildup. Living agents feed upon cellular waste. Which came first the chicken or the egg? Microbes are the vultures feeding upon waste. They are janitorial. They are not indiscriminately destructive.

Lab-coats do not test for synthetic compounds. They're the ones injecting and force-feeding such material remember? They simply need a scapegoat and smokescreen and the microbial realm is the ticket :)


P.S. - Read my statements a few posts back

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Lol, I love how Wonkish showed up page 1, laid down some ridicule, and then a reply with an unfounded statement, and now since hes in the extreme minority, he doesn't even show up.

The only idiots are the pro-vaxxers. If I didn't have to live in the same society as your mentally and physically disabled children (cause of the vax) I wouldn't care, but I do, so I must ensure as few people get vaccinations as possible.
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right, so 1937 knowledge of medicine is somehow supposed to supercede modern medicine?
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exactly...OP is a fear-mongering retard
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It is the vaccine industry that sells fear to get people to inject themselves and there babies with toxic chemicals, and they make shit loads if money doing it.
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I believe that most people who even ? the safety of Vaccines have already been vaccinated against intelligence. Otherwise there would not even such a threat that exist. Much less a conversation here about it. Don't take the poison and if you haven't please don't experiment with your children based on Gov. research and studies that are bogus as they can be. We will absolutely need these future un-vaccinated generations to restore our liberties.
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The hope for humanity will be in the hands of our unvaccinated children because they are the ones that will be able to have children and because they will be raised by parents who are AWAKE!!

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Lol, I love how Wonkish showed up page 1, laid down some ridicule, and then a reply with an unfounded statement, and now since hes in the extreme minority, he doesn't even show up.

The only idiots are the pro-vaxxers. If I didn't have to live in the same society as your mentally and physically disabled children (cause of the vax) I wouldn't care, but I do, so I must ensure as few people get vaccinations as possible.
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There is no point in arguing with you retards. The science is settled and you all like to cherry pick your evidence and reject the rest of it because it does not perpetuate your confirmation bias.

My time would be better spent watching videos of swamp gas, so called chemtrails, and "reptilian shapeshifting" videos.

Trying to have a discussion with a science denialist is pointless and a waste of time--many of you do not even believe in the peer-review process.

That's cool though, keep living your lives in ignorance--heaven forbid your entire worldview should come crashing down because of your fundamentalist belief system.
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Lol, I love how Wonkish showed up page 1, laid down some ridicule, and then a reply with an unfounded statement, and now since hes in the extreme minority, he doesn't even show up.

The only idiots are the pro-vaxxers. If I didn't have to live in the same society as your mentally and physically disabled children (cause of the vax) I wouldn't care, but I do, so I must ensure as few people get vaccinations as possible.
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There is no point in arguing with you retards. The science is settled and you all like to cherry pick your evidence and reject the rest of it because it does not perpetuate your confirmation bias.

My time would be better spent watching videos of swamp gas, so called chemtrails, and "reptilian shapeshifting" videos.

Trying to have a discussion with a science denialist is pointless and a waste of time--many of you do not even believe in the peer-review process.

That's cool though, keep living your lives in ignorance--heaven forbid your entire worldview should come crashing down because of your fundamentalist belief system.
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LOL, don't bring any argument or facts to the table. Just belittle and ridicule everyone, then try and assassinate their argument through guilt by association, and alleged denial. You showed them!

The almighty wonkish is right, and 98% of the people in this thread are wrong, even when they provide facts for their argument, have no personal gain, and don't just spend their time using logical fallacies, and personal attacks and ridicule to stifle pro-vaxxers who share their view. Brilliant.

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Lol, I love how Wonkish showed up page 1, laid down some ridicule, and then a reply with an unfounded statement, and now since hes in the extreme minority, he doesn't even show up.

The only idiots are the pro-vaxxers. If I didn't have to live in the same society as your mentally and physically disabled children (cause of the vax) I wouldn't care, but I do, so I must ensure as few people get vaccinations as possible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7132514


There is no point in arguing with you retards. The science is settled and you all like to cherry pick your evidence and reject the rest of it because it does not perpetuate your confirmation bias.

My time would be better spent watching videos of swamp gas, so called chemtrails, and "reptilian shapeshifting" videos.

Trying to have a discussion with a science denialist is pointless and a waste of time--many of you do not even believe in the peer-review process.

That's cool though, keep living your lives in ignorance--heaven forbid your entire worldview should come crashing down because of your fundamentalist belief system.
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if vaccines were so great big pharma would not need special government protection for lawsuits resulting from all the injuries they cause... and that is only the issues that people know about. only sheeple get vaccines.... bah.
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I have custody of my 7 yr old granddaughter, she is due for her chicken pox vaccine, I am a little apprehesive at this time to her getting it, does anyone know if it is really imperative that she gets it????

The school informed me that if there is a break out she will have to stay home, that is what the school informed me about.
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"really important"? somehow children survived for thousands of years without the vaccine... so I guess it depends on what you mean by really important. If you think is important that the child receive an immunosuppressive bunch of metals, toxins, stealth viruses and government eugenic type "stuff"... then sure its important to get the shot.
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thankyou for your comment, but gee oh my arn't we passive agresssive now!!
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no, actually just sarcastic and bombastic.
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if vaccines were so great big pharma would not need special government protection for lawsuits resulting from all the injuries they cause... and that is only the issues that people know about. only sheeple get vaccines.... bah.
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EXACTLY!!!! If vaccines are safe then big pharma wouldn't have federal protection.

If vaccines were safe there wouldn't be a hazard tax attached to each one that went into the vaccine injury fund to be paid out to families of children who have been injured or killed by getting vaccines.

SIDS was almost unheard of until the wide spread use of vaccines now its every common.

Over 100 girls died after getting the Gardisil shot in August, and another 104 died in October after the Gardisil shot.
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The risk far outweighs any benefit as the risk will vary from child to child.

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BTW scientific evidence does not support the anti-vaxxer's claims.
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Try to find any randomized studies in PUBMED... surprise, surprise!

Never proven agaisnt placebo = never proven to better than doing nothing,





GLP