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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6669690 United States 12/20/2011 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | *facepalm* Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7242673 and while people were sniffing jesus's old clothes and trying to find his image in a piece of fucking toast, his teachings go unheard and unpracticed, and a religion has built a temple over his grave to silence his turnings in the grave. Fuck christianity. Fuck these people who try to perpetuate a story that has no basis in reality. Get fucking real and meditate on what HE actually said, not what some douchery in garbs has said! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5848957 Canada 12/20/2011 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The forensic evidence points to a medieval forgery. Stop misinforming people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6299961 Oh really? did you read the link? BBC programm..The blood marks on the face of the Turin shroud match allegedly the ones on the Sudarium of Oviedo which is documented back to THE FIRST CENTURY ALLEGEDLY Both are AB blood group..and indicate seemingly that both cloths were placed on the face of the dead man following burial customs..The Shroud as an envelope covering the whole body..the sudarium on the face How about you pull your head out of your stupid fucking ass and actually read the real evidence. The link you posted referred to another GLP thread with unsourced text. I'll give you the real evidence right fucking here, and if you continue to spout off your bullshit then you must be nothing more than a shill. [link to adsabs.harvard.edu] "Very small samples from the Shroud of Turin have been dated by accelerator mass spectrometry in laboratories at Arizona, Oxford and Zurich. As controls, three samples whose ages had been determined independently were also dated. The results provide conclusive evidence that the linen of the Shroud of Turin is mediaeval." Now stop trying to persuade people to believe in your false reality. THANKS. Id appreciate if you kept your fowl language out of this thread thank you.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7013991 Canada 12/20/2011 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do NOT be deceived. THINK about it. WHY has there been so much focus on blood types over the past decade? Blood type diet, etc. They will most likely be using the shroud of turin for a REASON -to deceive you. If anyone steps up and uses blood type to say "we are related to Jesus" and here is proof, do NOT be deceived. Whether you are included in that group or not. In order for someone to step and claim they are GOD or of the descendants, I would imagine blood type will be used as part of it. "The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness." 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 "Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,a’ and will deceive many" Matthew 24:4 "and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people" Matthew 24:11 "For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--if that were possible." Matthew 24:24 "So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the desert,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man" Matthew 24:26-27 |
schiehallion User ID: 7437675 United Kingdom 12/20/2011 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus is a scientist too. He knew of the existence of spiritual energy that fills all space, and how to channel it, manipulate it and achieve predetermined results. Healings, manifesting matter, levitation and so on. Just like the holy scientists of the East have been able to do from antiquity to today. scottish, british, european but first of all Human. Even this is not true. I am Spirit appearing to be solid, just like all life everywhere |
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Ballin' on Welfare User ID: 1537656 United States 12/20/2011 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aliens did it Last Edited by Ballin' on Welfare on 12/20/2011 10:33 AM LIVE YOUR LIFE Follow God, Not a book. God is Love, God is Light. Love is the secret of the universe. [link to www.gizoogle.com] Fo all you beotches who wanna find shiznit. Google something for me called 2 kids 1 sandbox. Very cute video! |
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DonHeau User ID: 1359307 United States 12/20/2011 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My theory the image was produced by heat generated within the body by subatomic fusion ..altering the DNA ..creating a body not subject to time and space and restarting the life within the body at the same time Quoting: wildhoney That's a hypothesis, not a theory. After you do some experiments and some proving, then you can call it a theory. Theories must be proven before they are so called. Last Edited by DonHeau on 12/20/2011 10:38 AM We opened doors by thinking. |
daughter in NYC User ID: 3337533 United States 12/20/2011 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yet another piece of the puzzle solved..Sodom and Gomorrah was authenticated only a few days ago. God is not mocked...TRUTH trumps lies, everytime. Glory to the Risen Christ....the only man to ever Resurrect! Thank you OP daughter in NYC |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 984463 United States 12/20/2011 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a long read but well worth the time it,s about D.N.A emitting UV light says it all... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7434981 [link to www.viewzone.com] Thank you, that was an excellent article ! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6345307 United States 12/20/2011 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is very simple science (knowledge). Density and specific gravity play a major role. Obviously Jesus altered his specific gravity value so that he had one less than a duck. Not the same. Then he would have been a witch. Since he made his specific gravity low enough to walk on water he was a master scientist, manipulating the natural laws so that he was 'lighter than a duck'. So simple. Keep it simple! easy peasy..thatss why so many do it all the timeright..?lol not even a person has managed this sure he could alter the laws of nature because He was/is..the Messiah Jesus said what I do you can do also. So, yes, it should be easy peasy!! And I already know what your generic christian answer is going to be for why we seemly cannot (ye of little faith) But, maybe it is something else. Maybe it's ye of little understanding instead of faith. If we understood and could comprehend whatever it was that he and other mystics undertand, then we could manipulate matter. It would be as natural as breathing. But then, at that point, this reality would be completely different - even heavenly. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 787778 United States 12/20/2011 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love how it takes science 100+ years to confirm what many of us have known most of our lives... Quoting: BRIEF Maybe one day in my lifetime they will prove that you can't get something from nothing proving scientifically that the Atheists are wrong and the creationists are indeed correct... Well, how do you explain a god... since you can't get something from nothing, where did 'god' come from? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1486952 Spain 12/20/2011 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Wildhoney. You are a IDIOT. If you go back to the thread you posted above about the silly piece of cloth. A person replies with a very factual and intelligent post; to which you replied with a moronic response. So please quit spouting silly thoughts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5848957 ... Quoting: wildhoney Oh really? did you read the link? BBC programm..The blood marks on the face of the Turin shroud match allegedly the ones on the Sudarium of Oviedo which is documented back to THE FIRST CENTURY ALLEGEDLY Both are AB blood group..and indicate seemingly that both cloths were placed on the face of the dead man following burial customs..The Shroud as an envelope covering the whole body..the sudarium on the face How about you pull your head out of your stupid fucking ass and actually read the real evidence. The link you posted referred to another GLP thread with unsourced text. I'll give you the real evidence right fucking here, and if you continue to spout off your bullshit then you must be nothing more than a shill. [link to adsabs.harvard.edu] "Very small samples from the Shroud of Turin have been dated by accelerator mass spectrometry in laboratories at Arizona, Oxford and Zurich. As controls, three samples whose ages had been determined independently were also dated. The results provide conclusive evidence that the linen of the Shroud of Turin is mediaeval." Now stop trying to persuade people to believe in your false reality. THANKS. Id appreciate if you kept your fowl language out of this thread thank you.. The pieces of cloth taken to sample were allegedly those sewn on to patch up burned marks there is so much outstanding data to confirm authenticity in my opinion..that debunkers cant tap dance around it the bs flag aint gonna cut this one |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1486952 Spain 12/20/2011 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is very simple science (knowledge). Density and specific gravity play a major role. Obviously Jesus altered his specific gravity value so that he had one less than a duck. Not the same. Then he would have been a witch. Since he made his specific gravity low enough to walk on water he was a master scientist, manipulating the natural laws so that he was 'lighter than a duck'. So simple. Keep it simple! easy peasy..thatss why so many do it all the timeright..?lol not even a person has managed this sure he could alter the laws of nature because He was/is..the Messiah Jesus said what I do you can do also. So, yes, it should be easy peasy!! And I already know what your generic christian answer is going to be for why we seemly cannot (ye of little faith) But, maybe it is something else. Maybe it's ye of little understanding instead of faith. If we understood and could comprehend whatever it was that he and other mystics undertand, then we could manipulate matter. It would be as natural as breathing. But then, at that point, this reality would be completely different - even heavenly. Indeed..but maybe the key is only available to those deserving it |
Shephardi User ID: 7439725 United Kingdom 12/20/2011 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are no real scientists examining the shroud. Real scientists are working on important things that actually effect our lives. They have done more for you than any supernatural boogie man ever has. Quoting: Mango Positive They are not qualified to be scientists ?. "Traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy! " |
BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 12/20/2011 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was impossible for "cave men" to forge the shroud because they didn't have the technology... There were no "cave men" 2000 years ago! LOL! I won't even try and explain it to you... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1267010 United States 12/20/2011 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love how it takes science 100+ years to confirm what many of us have known most of our lives... Quoting: BRIEF Maybe one day in my lifetime they will prove that you can't get something from nothing proving scientifically that the Atheists are wrong and the creationists are indeed correct... ^ Behold the quote that doth begin a forum shitstorm. ^ |
BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 12/20/2011 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love how it takes science 100+ years to confirm what many of us have known most of our lives... Quoting: BRIEF Maybe one day in my lifetime they will prove that you can't get something from nothing proving scientifically that the Atheists are wrong and the creationists are indeed correct... Well, how do you explain a god... since you can't get something from nothing, where did 'god' come from? He is the creator...the circle/hoop that has no beginning or end...from his creation all things were made, including the laws of physics... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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Tekunda (OP) User ID: 6721497 Netherlands 12/20/2011 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you suggest they took a corpse and wrapped it into a cloth and then put the "bundle" out in the sun for days hoping to get a print on the cloth? What a horrible thing to suggest. The corpse would start to rot within hours in the hot sun, the putrefying flesh stinking and dissolving inside the cloth. Eventually after enough time in the sun you would have an enormous stain made by rotting human flesh, but I would bet my farm you would not find the defined form of a human body on the cloth. And the stench!!! It would stay in the cloth forever. Your method using the sun as UV source would be the definite proof that a human body decays, nothing more! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7440196 Ireland 12/20/2011 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in case there was any doubt about the preternatural degree of energy needed to make such distinct marks, the Enea report spells it out: "This degree of power cannot be reproduced by any normal UV source built to date. Quoting: Tekunda they only managed the effect by scorching equivalent linen material with high-intensity ultra violet lasers, Quoting: Tekunda Read these two paragraphs... do you understand why this reeks of bullshit? You know, there are 2 ways of sawing a lady in half... you can actually saw her in half... or you can use one of several other methods, some well known, some not so well known. Scientists btw, are the last people who should be called in to investigate anything supernatural. I though Randi demonstrated that with Project Alpha. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1486952 Spain 12/20/2011 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But this goes way beyond ..what the Shroud is also showing us in my opinion is : Not only the authenticity of who Christ is..not that He needs it But..also that we are now just a step in the evolution of humanity..the next human being will be like Christ..with a changed DNA..no longer subject to time or space and with power over all the elements..a human FREE from all restrictions This human..or being..to become Christ Like..must have in my opinion a Spirit as pure and Loving as Christ because this can and will in my opinion..cause the change in DNA that I believe happened in the body of Christ..its a Spiritual Power..an energy..acquired by following the path showed to us by Christ and this was the original being I believe ..before the "fall" Christ came to show us the way back..with his teachings..and with His Life, Death and Resurrection I think the implications are enormous! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1486952 Spain 12/20/2011 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thats why the Shroud happened..thats why only now there is the technology to fully comprehend it..in my opinion..because it was a message FOR TODAY..FOR US why? because we have reached the end of the world that was I think we are now poised to take that step ..the Kingdom I think its all coming together..NOW and its absolutely amazing!Glory Be To God |