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Anti-Polish communities in U.S

 
Johny777
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01/11/2012 09:57 PM
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Anti-Polish communities in U.S
Anti-Polish communities in U.S could be some junkies, because of their possible relations with the ruskie mob and the part of the masonry because Poles don't want to be their fucked colony.I haven't mentioned all groups but I think these ones are significant.
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01/11/2012 09:59 PM
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i live in an anti-Polish community in Texas.
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01/11/2012 10:01 PM
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i live in an anti-Polish community in Texas.
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mason or junk?
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01/11/2012 10:15 PM
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Im Half pollack, discrimination does not exist in the USA. This isn't the 1700s
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01/11/2012 10:34 PM
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why would someone be anti-polish?
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01/11/2012 10:39 PM
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why would someone be anti-polish?
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ukrainians, lithuanians and belarussians might have some grudges. and the germans were never too pro-polish
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01/11/2012 10:48 PM
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I'm half polish and lived in PA thirty years ago the people were prejudice against the Polish.
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I'm half polish and lived in PA thirty years ago the people were prejudice against the Polish.
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why?

I am looking for the kernel of anti-Polish sentiment in U.S
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What are you talking about with this anti-polish communities stuff? What constitutes anti-polish? Define for me the prejudice against Polish people if you will. I have never seen anything of the sort and I've lived a lot of places.
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why would someone be anti-polish?
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because of inciting, by ex-KGB, commies (fucked masonic pseudo-socialists) , nazi-fugitives from ex-III Reich, Prussian-line German immigrants (old-fashioned), and a lot of others who are disappointed because the Cold Wars is over.
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why would someone be anti-polish?
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because of inciting, by ex-KGB, commies (fucked masonic pseudo-socialists) , nazi-fugitives from ex-III Reich, Prussian-line German immigrants (old-fashioned), and a lot of others who are disappointed because the Cold Wars is over.
 Quoting: Johny777 8692165


The average American has no idea what you're probably referring to.

Here in the Mid-West, we have nothing against the Poles.

:-)
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01/11/2012 11:13 PM
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why would someone be anti-polish?
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because of inciting, by ex-KGB, commies (fucked masonic pseudo-socialists) , nazi-fugitives from ex-III Reich, Prussian-line German immigrants (old-fashioned), and a lot of others who are disappointed because the Cold Wars is over.
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The average American has no idea what you're probably referring to.

Here in the Mid-West, we have nothing against the Poles.

:-)
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What he said.
Johny777
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What are you talking about with this anti-polish communities stuff? What constitutes anti-polish? Define for me the prejudice against Polish people if you will. I have never seen anything of the sort and I've lived a lot of places.
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Polish concentration camps "joke", discrimination by the police and judiciary, polish jokes and anti-Polish sentiment in the media, treating the truthful history of Poland as taboo (for instance - Hollywood is making fabricated histories about Poles transferring secret British codes for Germans , but nobody is talking about cracking by my compatriots German coding machine called enigma. The predecessor of the famous British computer Colossus, Turing's bomba was made of devices constructed by polish engineers which were the kernel of it, but now there is nothing about it except crap like this:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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I really don't understand what you mean. When you say prejudice , I am meaning people used to say dumb pollock and stuff like that.
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I really don't understand what you mean. When you say prejudice , I am meaning people used to say dumb pollock and stuff like that.
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But I have heard the reason there are dumb pollack jokes is because all of the Polish scientists were killed during the hitler ordeal and I also heard more Polish people were killed than Jewish.
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Not that it makes a difference it's just what I have heard from different people from Europe.
Johny777
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I really don't understand what you mean. When you say prejudice , I am meaning people used to say dumb pollock and stuff like that.
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"dumb pollocks" is also an instance of anti-Polish sentiment, but it has rather narrow-minded nature.

The sample of discrimination against Poles is an incident where Polish female was beaten by NY police because she had a dog and didn't have a suitable document with her, or something like this [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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What are you talking about with this anti-polish communities stuff? What constitutes anti-polish? Define for me the prejudice against Polish people if you will. I have never seen anything of the sort and I've lived a lot of places.
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Polish concentration camps "joke", discrimination by the police and judiciary, polish jokes and anti-Polish sentiment in the media, treating the truthful history of Poland as taboo (for instance - Hollywood is making fabricated histories about Poles transferring secret British codes for Germans , but nobody is talking about cracking by my compatriots German coding machine called enigma. The predecessor of the famous British computer Colossus, Turing's bomba was made of devices constructed by polish engineers which were the kernel of it, but now there is nothing about it except crap like this:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
)
 Quoting: Johny777 8692165


I think you might be over analyzing things a bit. Sure, there are some Polish jokes out there, but there are jokes about everybody out there. If your not too thin skinned, that's really about the extent of it. One thing you have to understand about Hollywood is that they are generally ill informed when it comes to history. They are too busy trying to convince everyone that Socialism is good to pay much attention to actual details like what nationality a particular person was. I doubt its done with any intent, just poor understanding. Polish people in the US don't really have isolated Polish only communities that reduce exposure to everyone else. On a lighter note there is a Polish deli near me that I really like that makes the best sausage. Yum!

Goofy Thum
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btw. referring to [link to en.wikipedia.org]
here is real Zygalski : [link to en.wikipedia.org]
Johny777
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01/12/2012 12:00 AM
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What are you talking about with this anti-polish communities stuff? What constitutes anti-polish? Define for me the prejudice against Polish people if you will. I have never seen anything of the sort and I've lived a lot of places.
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Polish concentration camps "joke", discrimination by the police and judiciary, polish jokes and anti-Polish sentiment in the media, treating the truthful history of Poland as taboo (for instance - Hollywood is making fabricated histories about Poles transferring secret British codes for Germans , but nobody is talking about cracking by my compatriots German coding machine called enigma. The predecessor of the famous British computer Colossus, Turing's bomba was made of devices constructed by polish engineers which were the kernel of it, but now there is nothing about it except crap like this:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
)
 Quoting: Johny777 8692165


I think you might be over analyzing things a bit. Sure, there are some Polish jokes out there, but there are jokes about everybody out there. If your not too thin skinned, that's really about the extent of it. One thing you have to understand about Hollywood is that they are generally ill informed when it comes to history. They are too busy trying to convince everyone that Socialism is good to pay much attention to actual details like what nationality a particular person was. I doubt its done with any intent, just poor understanding. Polish people in the US don't really have isolated Polish only communities that reduce exposure to everyone else. On a lighter note there is a Polish deli near me that I really like that makes the best sausage. Yum!

Goofy Thum
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so we w've got here a problem : Socialists in Hollywood ...
Do you really think that bosses of U.S movie studios are Socialists?
Johny777
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01/12/2012 12:06 AM
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Bosses of movies studios know that they are promoting crypto-sovietism, when their company is doing it.
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Bosses of movies studios know that they are promoting crypto-sovietism, when their company is doing it.
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Not all of them mind you, but a large group of them are. They aren't big fans of the Country they are actually living in either.
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01/12/2012 12:11 AM
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why would someone be anti-polish?
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They don't like shiny things?
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01/12/2012 12:14 AM
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OWE ten four GOODBUDDY...YES A merica sucks for voilent hate mongers..thats what drives this country ...that and snobbery to brothers and sisters
Johny777
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01/12/2012 12:19 AM
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oh I've forgotten - there is also visas problem , Czechs, Lithuanians (formerly the part of the Soviet Union), Hungarians and Germans needn't to get a visa to be in U.S.A , but not Poles - it's discrimination.(taking fingerprints at the airports not mentioned)
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OWE ten four GOODBUDDY...YES A merica sucks for voilent hate mongers..thats what drives this country ...that and snobbery to brothers and sisters
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mongers?
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Anti-Polish communities in U.S could be some junkies, because of their possible relations with the ruskie mob and the part of the masonry because Poles don't want to be their fucked colony.I haven't mentioned all groups but I think these ones are significant.
 Quoting: Johny777 8690783

Anti-Polish bigotry in America began in the 19th century. Many Protestants hated all Catholics, but especially those who were poor, uneducated, or enslaved in serfdom. (Polish serfs, living under Austrian and Russian rule in the 19th century, were eventually freed from legal serfdom, but were nevertheless left so economically desperate that most could not afford to send their children to school.)

In the 20th century, anti-Polish bigotry has come mostly from the Jewish community. Jewish people made up roughly 10% of the Polish population (up until World War II), and often enjoyed mocking the poverty, lack of education, and lack of freedom of the Polish serfs/peasants. Many Jewish people carried this bigotry to America.

The common theme is that of "blaming the victim." Both Judaism and Protestantism have a long tradition, based on their theology, of believing that God will infallibly reward humans for their virtue in this life, and punish them for their vice in this life. Both religions, then, traditionally assume that anyone who is poor, uneducated, or enslaved is himself to blame for his difficult situation.

In contrast, Catholic tradition follows that of the Beatitudes:
[link to www.vatican.va]
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And raising his eyes toward his disciples he said: "Blessed are you who are poor, for the kingdom of God is yours.

Blessed are you who are now hungry, for you will be satisfied. Blessed are you who are now weeping, for you will laugh.

Blessed are you when people hate you, and when they exclude and insult you, and denounce your name as evil on account of the Son of Man.

Rejoice and leap for joy on that day! Behold, your reward will be great in heaven. For their ancestors treated the prophets in the same way.

But woe to you who are rich, for you have received your consolation.

But woe to you who are filled now, for you will be hungry. Woe to you who laugh now, for you will grieve and weep.

Woe to you when all speak well of you, for their ancestors treated the false prophets in this way.
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This review of the disgusting movie Borat casually mentions the source of modern "Polish jokes":

[link to www.isteve.com]
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"Borat" is a 21st Century version of the Polish jokes that Borscht Belt comedians like Henny Youngman once helped popularize. While Ali G was a milestone in contemporary social satire, the anti-Slavic depiction of Borat as the ultimate goyishe kop (he carries a chicken in his suitcase and has no idea what a toilet is for) is old-fashioned and purposeless.
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In case you haven't heard of the Borscht Belt:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Borscht Belt, or Jewish Alps, is a colloquial term for the mostly defunct summer resorts of the Catskill Mountains in parts of Sullivan, Orange and Ulster counties in upstate New York that were a popular vacation spot for New York City Jewish people from the 1920s through the 1960s.
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Here's an example from a book, of anti-Polish bigotry in the Borscht Belt surviving into the '80s:

[link to books.google.com]
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Two old Polish ladies sitting on the stoop talking...
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This review of a Henny Youngman CD from the late '70s mentions his Polish jokes:

[link to www.theseriouscomedysite.com]