PROOF JESUS IS NOT GOD THE FATHER !! BUT THE GLORIFIED AND EXALTED SON | |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 10465331 United States 04/16/2012 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of *him* LETS LOOK UP "BEGAT" STRONG'S CONCORDANCE a) to engender c) of God making Christ his son so him that begat is no other than "GOD THE FATHER" and he who is begotten[jesus] of him [the father] **I REST MY CASE** Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 04/16/2012 10:02 PM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 10465331 United States 04/16/2012 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thats a good one too,but I really want to see who has the gall to explain this away...lol 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13584098 United States 04/16/2012 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think you understand the concept of spirit, soul and body. We are made in God's image. What is that "image"? One person with a spirit, a soul and a body. I am not three people or two people but one being. Just as Jesus was God in the flesh. |
1COR15:22 User ID: 1324434 United States 04/16/2012 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians say that JESUS IS GOD THE FATHER.The scriptures say differently in many places. Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar Please one of you explain what this means! "This is Jesus speaking by the way! 1st john chapter 5 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: Because if the father judgeth no man and you say jesus is the father is the Gospel lying to us or is it that you are delusional. Who is the son then? Or is judgement committed to your own son if you have one? Neim. I agree. Jesus is the son and not God the Father. I like your posts. Thanks |
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Daniel's Seventieth Seven User ID: 1071051 United States 04/16/2012 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course the Father was/is greater than Jesus in the flesh when He had that statement. The spirit is greater than the flesh. ... And in Heaven, Does He sit on the throne? or on the right hand.. Mark 16:19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. ? |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 10465331 United States 04/16/2012 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians say that JESUS IS GOD THE FATHER.The scriptures say differently in many places. Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar Please one of you explain what this means! "This is Jesus speaking by the way! 1st john chapter 5 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: Because if the father judgeth no man and you say jesus is the father is the Gospel lying to us or is it that you are delusional. Who is the son then? Or is judgement committed to your own son if you have one? Neim. I agree. Jesus is the son and not God the Father. I like your posts. Thanks Well said and blessed are you 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 10465331 United States 04/16/2012 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course the Father was/is greater than Jesus in the flesh when He had that statement. The spirit is greater than the flesh. Just as we await our spiritual bodies, which are greater than our fleshly bodies. confused 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 10465331 United States 04/16/2012 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus overcame the fleshly body and was without sin, the perfect example of what is to happen to us. He was God in the flesh. Who else could have been a perfect sinless sacrifice or who else is righteous but the Father? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13584098 when you say us what do you mean?Becaue you will never overcome with that view! 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 04/16/2012 10:06 PM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
1COR15:22 User ID: 1324434 United States 04/16/2012 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus overcame the fleshly body and was without sin, the perfect example of what is to happen to us. He was God in the flesh. Who else could have been a perfect sinless sacrifice or who else is righteous but the Father? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13584098 when you say us what do you mean? Neim, why don't people understand this in your view? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14549836 Australia 04/16/2012 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:[/b[ 11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; 12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail. (Hebrews 1:10-12) Jesus is The Creator. |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 10465331 United States 04/16/2012 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus overcame the fleshly body and was without sin, the perfect example of what is to happen to us. He was God in the flesh. Who else could have been a perfect sinless sacrifice or who else is righteous but the Father? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13584098 when you say us what do you mean? Neim, why don't people understand this in your view? Not my view but what the scripture been saying...There is a reason for this through pagan associations they have eliminated the father and placed the son/sun as the head. This teaching really came from judaism as there is a lesser God AN ANGEL CALLED METATRON.He is also called the YHWH equivalent to the father This is the whole thinking behind this and chritians have been brainwashed to even turn their eyes on scriptural evidence to believe a lie. Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 04/16/2012 10:15 PM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Morganite User ID: 11765896 United States 04/16/2012 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course the Father was/is greater than Jesus in the flesh when He had that statement. The spirit is greater than the flesh. Just as we await our spiritual bodies, which are greater than our fleshly bodies. idk any christians saying Jesus is God the Father, Jesus is God the Son. morganite |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8437259 United States 04/16/2012 10:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians say that JESUS IS GOD THE FATHER.The scriptures say differently in many places. Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar Please one of you explain what this means! "This is Jesus speaking by the way! 1st john chapter 5 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: Because if the father judgeth no man and you say jesus is the father is the Gospel lying to us or is it that you are delusional. Who is the son then? Or is judgement committed to your own son if you have one? That is hard one to fathom even for me, a Christian, that God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are all the same. The only way I can think to explain it is that God can be all places and all things at one time, so He can be the 3 as well. We will all understand one day. If one can believe in aliens and ghosts, or whatever, than it shouldn't be too big of a stretch. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13584098 United States 04/16/2012 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus overcame the fleshly body and was without sin, the perfect example of what is to happen to us. He was God in the flesh. Who else could have been a perfect sinless sacrifice or who else is righteous but the Father? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13584098 when you say us what do you mean?Becaue you will never overcome with that view! 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? I'm not going to get into a Clintonesque debate with you on the meaning of the word "us." You're sounding more and more like a Pharisee with that one... Some things I agree with what you say, but you understand more of the letter of the law and not the spirit of it, which the latter is greater |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 10465331 United States 04/16/2012 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians say that JESUS IS GOD THE FATHER.The scriptures say differently in many places. Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar Please one of you explain what this means! "This is Jesus speaking by the way! 1st john chapter 5 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: Because if the father judgeth no man and you say jesus is the father is the Gospel lying to us or is it that you are delusional. Who is the son then? Or is judgement committed to your own son if you have one? That is hard one to fathom even for me, a Christian, that God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are all the same. The only way I can think to explain it is that God can be all places and all things at one time, so He can be the 3 as well. We will all understand one day. If one can believe in aliens and ghosts, or whatever, than it shouldn't be too big of a stretch. If peolpe study the word and pray it will becaome very clear but most people just go to church sunday to sunday and hear the same old thing over and over and never took time to read and examine the facts 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13584098 United States 04/16/2012 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:[/b[ Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14549836 11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; 12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail. (Hebrews 1:10-12) Jesus is The Creator. Right on!!! "Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?" <John 14:9> |
A Voice In The Wilderness User ID: 1506783 United States 04/16/2012 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians say that JESUS IS GOD THE FATHER.The scriptures say differently in many places. Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar Please one of you explain what this means! "This is Jesus speaking by the way! 1st john chapter 5 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: Because if the father judgeth no man and you say jesus is the father is the Gospel lying to us or is it that you are delusional. Who is the son then? Or is judgement committed to your own son if you have one? Have never seen a Christian who claims Jesus is The Father. YHVH is a Godhead of three Persons, the Father, Jesus Christ, and Holy Spirit. All three are separate, distinct persons with their own personality. All three are God. The Father and Jesus Christ existed together since before time was time, as indicated in John 1. JEHOVAH is what you would call a 'family name' that applies to all three. The Hebrew word 'Elohim', as found in the Torah, accurately defines the Godhead as plural as early as the first verse of the Old Testament. Genesis 1:1 reads, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." The word for God used here is 'Elohim', which literally translates 'Gods', supporting the rest of Scripture when it calls both the Father and Jesus Christ as the Creator. Just as Cherubim denotes multiple Cherubs, and Seraphim denotes multiple Seraphs, so Elohim denotes multiple persons of the Godhead, the singular being 'El' or 'Eli', as found in Scripture. It has always been Satan's purpose to diminish and lower Jesus Christ in the eyes of the world. Unfortunately, many believers have fallen for his lie and now believe that Jesus Christ is not God. On the contrary, Scripture is clear concerning the Second Person of the Godhead, "For God was manifest in the flesh..." 1 Timothy 3:16. The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy "We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520) "While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527). "Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon "Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits." Bill Hughes (Author of The Secret Terrorists and The Enemy Unmasked) |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 10465331 United States 04/16/2012 10:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus overcame the fleshly body and was without sin, the perfect example of what is to happen to us. He was God in the flesh. Who else could have been a perfect sinless sacrifice or who else is righteous but the Father? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13584098 when you say us what do you mean?Becaue you will never overcome with that view! 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? I'm not going to get into a Clintonesque debate with you on the meaning of the word "us." You're sounding more and more like a Pharisee with that one... Some things I agree with what you say, but you understand more of the letter of the law and not the spirit of it, which the latter is greater If I was a pharasee I will not uplift my Father and his messiah.The truth is when you people have no sound answer you start calling names and dwelve in things you have noo understanding of This is basic 101 a no brainer ...why make it complex with your vin philosphy? Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 04/16/2012 10:20 PM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7709473 United States 04/16/2012 10:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would seem that these teachings came from the "The First Book of Adam and Eve" in the Apocrypha. The first instance is found at chapter XIV, verse 4. [link to www.sacred-texts.com] "4 "But I will. When I shall come down from heaven, and shall become flesh of thy seed, and take upon Me the infirmity from which thou sufferest, then the darkness that came upon thee in this cave shall come upon Me in the grave, when I am in the flesh of thy seed." |
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Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 10465331 United States 04/16/2012 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians say that JESUS IS GOD THE FATHER.The scriptures say differently in many places. Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar Please one of you explain what this means! "This is Jesus speaking by the way! 1st john chapter 5 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: Because if the father judgeth no man and you say jesus is the father is the Gospel lying to us or is it that you are delusional. Who is the son then? Or is judgement committed to your own son if you have one? Have never seen a Christian who claims Jesus is The Father. YHVH is a Godhead of three Persons, the Father, Jesus Christ, and Holy Spirit. All three are separate, distinct persons with their own personality. All three are God. The Father and Jesus Christ existed together since before time was time, as indicated in John 1. JEHOVAH is what you would call a 'family name' that applies to all three. The Hebrew word 'Elohim', as found in the Torah, accurately defines the Godhead as plural as early as the first verse of the Old Testament. Genesis 1:1 reads, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." The word for God used here is 'Elohim', which literally translates 'Gods', supporting the rest of Scripture when it calls both the Father and Jesus Christ as the Creator. Just as Cherubim denotes multiple Cherubs, and Seraphim denotes multiple Seraphs, so Elohim denotes multiple persons of the Godhead, the singular being 'El' or 'Eli', as found in Scripture. It has always been Satan's purpose to diminish and lower Jesus Christ in the eyes of the world. Unfortunately, many believers have fallen for his lie and now believe that Jesus Christ is not God. On the contrary, Scripture is clear concerning the Second Person of the Godhead, "For God was manifest in the flesh..." 1 Timothy 3:16. stick around thats is the doctrine today with no law 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
1COR15:22 User ID: 1324434 United States 04/16/2012 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus overcame the fleshly body and was without sin, the perfect example of what is to happen to us. He was God in the flesh. Who else could have been a perfect sinless sacrifice or who else is righteous but the Father? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13584098 when you say us what do you mean?Becaue you will never overcome with that view! 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? I'm not going to get into a Clintonesque debate with you on the meaning of the word "us." You're sounding more and more like a Pharisee with that one... Some things I agree with what you say, but you understand more of the letter of the law and not the spirit of it, which the latter is greater If I was a pharasee I will not uplift my Father and his messiah.The truth is when you people have no sound answer you start calling names and dwelve in things you have noo understanding of This is basic 101 a no brainer ...why make it complex with your vin philosphy? Neim is no pharisee. He seeks the truth and shares his knowledge. You should appreciate his efforts. God the Father is seperate and above Jesus the son. Jesus even admits this. Jesus recieves his power from the father. This is not a shared office. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1838356 United States 04/16/2012 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Scripture is quite clear that Jesus has always obeyed the Father's will. It is God the Father that has elevated the Son because in the glorying of the Son the Father is glorified. These are conceptual physical relationships used to try and communicate to humans who God is. He knew that we could understand certain types of relationships so he established them for us primarily so we could have a better understanding of who He is. The Father Son. The Husband Wife. and between believers the Brother and Sister. All you see are mere a shadow of what is real and is going on in the spiritual. In the end the Spiritual is the only thing real and all we see with our senses is vapor. Do not look with your eyes. They decieve. See with your soul and look for your spirit to be reborn through belief on the Saviour the Lord Jesus Christ for your salvation. Then and only then can you begin to understand. Otherwise it is untenable. |
Morganite User ID: 11765896 United States 04/16/2012 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have never seen a Christian who claims Jesus is The Father. Quoting: A Voice In The Wilderness YHVH is a Godhead of three Persons, the Father, Jesus Christ, and Holy Spirit. All three are separate, distinct persons with their own personality. All three are God. The Father and Jesus Christ existed together since before time was time, as indicated in John 1. JEHOVAH is what you would call a 'family name' that applies to all three. The Hebrew word 'Elohim', as found in the Torah, accurately defines the Godhead as plural as early as the first verse of the Old Testament. Genesis 1:1 reads, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." The word for God used here is 'Elohim', which literally translates 'Gods', supporting the rest of Scripture when it calls both the Father and Jesus Christ as the Creator. Just as Cherubim denotes multiple Cherubs, and Seraphim denotes multiple Seraphs, so Elohim denotes multiple persons of the Godhead, the singular being 'El' or 'Eli', as found in Scripture. It has always been Satan's purpose to diminish and lower Jesus Christ in the eyes of the world. Unfortunately, many believers have fallen for his lie and now believe that Jesus Christ is not God. On the contrary, Scripture is clear concerning the Second Person of the Godhead, "For God was manifest in the flesh..." 1 Timothy 3:16. AMEN ! morganite |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14554579 Sweden 04/16/2012 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians say that JESUS IS GOD THE FATHER.The scriptures say differently in many places. Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar Please one of you explain what this means! "This is Jesus speaking by the way! 1st john chapter 5 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: Because if the father judgeth no man and you say jesus is the father is the Gospel lying to us or is it that you are delusional. Who is the son then? Or is judgement committed to your own son if you have one? I will clear this up for you with these verses: Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God. Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. Joh 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. Joh 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. Joh 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. Joh 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Joh 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. |
me User ID: 1269302 United States 04/16/2012 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I buy into the new age crap that we each have a CHRIST or divine self. Trying to explain God, well that is a fools game, we can't explain our self yet...hahaha We are all connected somehow, as each atom pulls on every other atom. We are the watchers, without this world would have no meaning or existence. Of course, this is just a belief I have and it works for me. I also respect all religions and consider even the atheism on a spiritual path. To question everything is divine. Truth, now that is hard to come by. I see many claiming to own it, but at best grasp onto only a fragment. Good luck on your search, may you be happy with it. |
Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 10465331 United States 04/16/2012 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christians say that JESUS IS GOD THE FATHER.The scriptures say differently in many places. Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar Please one of you explain what this means! "This is Jesus speaking by the way! 1st john chapter 5 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: Because if the father judgeth no man and you say jesus is the father is the Gospel lying to us or is it that you are delusional. Who is the son then? Or is judgement committed to your own son if you have one? Joh 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. Thank you! and you folks must keep sharing the word with each aother and tear down false teachings on the forum when you see them...bless you 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |