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TBar1984 User ID: 13725461 United States 05/13/2012 12:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATED - - - - FINALLY! New Information from IBEX that continues to verify we are entering a highly magnetized/energetic region of the Fluff!!! ... Quoting: TBar1984 No, I don't see your version. I see the version by Dave McComas, IBEX Principal Investigator here [link to www.ibex.swri.edu] Ponder on these words, ...it means that there is about 25% less pressure in the region in front of our heliosphere. What this also means is that there is not the right combination of density, speed, pressure, and magnetism to cause a bow shock to form... Previously it was thought that there was a HIGHER Pressure & Density so they envisioned a Bow Shock. NOW, they see LESS Pressure & Density hence the Bow Wave replacing the Bow Shock. How you can see this any other way is a mystery. From the same article you linked. It is exactly the example I gave. Scientists thought that if our Solar System was traveling fast enough, the pressure of our heliosphere plowing through the interstellar medium material would cause that material to greatly slow down and pile up in front of our heliosphere, forming a "bow shock," in a similar fashion to how air piles up in front of a supersonic jet forming a sound wave shock or "sonic boom." Instead, a "bow wave" is more likely present, which is an area where material is more dense than the surrounding interstellar medium, but no shock forms. Bow waves are what you see in front of the bow of a boat as it pushes through still water. [link to www.ibex.swri.edu] That's correct, if there was More Pressure there would be a 'Shock', but, there ISN'T enough pressure to form a shock. That why the 'Shock' has been downgraded to a 'Wave'. There is LESS PRESSURE & DENSITY THAN THEY THOUGHT. Again, What this also means is that there is not the right combination of density, speed, pressure, and magnetism to cause a bow shock to form. [link to www.ibex.swri.edu] TBar, I think you are getting confused with direction of the various mediums (heliosphere, cloud and interstellar magnetic field), and density of what we are in now. Directional flow is something you need to look into. Did you look at the picture they provided in the link? Notice, not the right combination of density, speed, pressure, and magnetism. Not the right combination...do you understand the variables involved, and what various 'combinations' can effect? Someone's confused all right. How you can get 'IBEX that continues to verify we are entering a denser region of the Fluff' from these articles is extremely confusing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1395091 Australia 05/13/2012 12:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATED - - - - FINALLY! New Information from IBEX that continues to verify we are entering a highly magnetized/energetic region of the Fluff!!! ... Quoting: TBar1984 No, I don't see your version. I see the version by Dave McComas, IBEX Principal Investigator here [link to www.ibex.swri.edu] Ponder on these words, ...it means that there is about 25% less pressure in the region in front of our heliosphere. What this also means is that there is not the right combination of density, speed, pressure, and magnetism to cause a bow shock to form... Previously it was thought that there was a HIGHER Pressure & Density so they envisioned a Bow Shock. NOW, they see LESS Pressure & Density hence the Bow Wave replacing the Bow Shock. How you can see this any other way is a mystery. From the same article you linked. It is exactly the example I gave. Scientists thought that if our Solar System was traveling fast enough, the pressure of our heliosphere plowing through the interstellar medium material would cause that material to greatly slow down and pile up in front of our heliosphere, forming a "bow shock," in a similar fashion to how air piles up in front of a supersonic jet forming a sound wave shock or "sonic boom." Instead, a "bow wave" is more likely present, which is an area where material is more dense than the surrounding interstellar medium, but no shock forms. Bow waves are what you see in front of the bow of a boat as it pushes through still water. [link to www.ibex.swri.edu] That's correct, if there was More Pressure there would be a 'Shock', but, there ISN'T enough pressure to form a shock. That why the 'Shock' has been downgraded to a 'Wave'. There is LESS PRESSURE & DENSITY THAN THEY THOUGHT. Again, What this also means is that there is not the right combination of density, speed, pressure, and magnetism to cause a bow shock to form. [link to www.ibex.swri.edu] TBar, I think you are getting confused with direction of the various mediums (heliosphere, cloud and interstellar magnetic field), and density of what we are in now. Directional flow is something you need to look into. Did you look at the picture they provided in the link? Notice, not the right combination of density, speed, pressure, and magnetism. Not the right combination...do you understand the variables involved, and what various 'combinations' can effect? Tbar, basically you need to imagine bubble flowing through air. With constant pressure at the CENTER of bubbles main axis of direction, you will get a constant force. If you change that pressure from the center of the bubble to an outward portion, than the forces will NOT be constant with the axis of movement. Causing the effect OP has tried explaining. It's not hard to understand, seriously. |
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TBar1984 User ID: 13725461 United States 05/13/2012 12:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATED - - - - FINALLY! New Information from IBEX that continues to verify we are entering a highly magnetized/energetic region of the Fluff!!! ... Quoting: Swinging on Spirals From the same article you linked. It is exactly the example I gave. Scientists thought that if our Solar System was traveling fast enough, the pressure of our heliosphere plowing through the interstellar medium material would cause that material to greatly slow down and pile up in front of our heliosphere, forming a "bow shock," in a similar fashion to how air piles up in front of a supersonic jet forming a sound wave shock or "sonic boom." Instead, a "bow wave" is more likely present, which is an area where material is more dense than the surrounding interstellar medium, but no shock forms. Bow waves are what you see in front of the bow of a boat as it pushes through still water. [link to www.ibex.swri.edu] That's correct, if there was More Pressure there would be a 'Shock', but, there ISN'T enough pressure to form a shock. That why the 'Shock' has been downgraded to a 'Wave'. There is LESS PRESSURE & DENSITY THAN THEY THOUGHT. Again, What this also means is that there is not the right combination of density, speed, pressure, and magnetism to cause a bow shock to form. [link to www.ibex.swri.edu] TBar, I think you are getting confused with direction of the various mediums (heliosphere, cloud and interstellar magnetic field), and density of what we are in now. Directional flow is something you need to look into. Did you look at the picture they provided in the link? Notice, not the right combination of density, speed, pressure, and magnetism. Not the right combination...do you understand the variables involved, and what various 'combinations' can effect? Tbar, basically you need to imagine bubble flowing through air. With constant pressure at the CENTER of bubbles main axis of direction, you will get a constant force. If you change that pressure from the center of the bubble to an outward portion, than the forces will NOT be constant with the axis of movement. Causing the effect OP has tried explaining. It's not hard to understand, seriously. Where in these articles does it say we are entering a denser area? Where? If we were entering a denser area with any chance of heliosphere compression they WOULD NOT HAVE REMOVED THE SHOCK. We have been passing through this cloud for basically EVER, look at these diagrams; [link to apod.nasa.gov] [link to apod.nasa.gov] Read about it here; [link to www-ssg.sr.unh.edu] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4594667 United States 05/13/2012 12:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATED - - - - FINALLY! New Information from IBEX that continues to verify we are entering a highly magnetized/energetic region of the Fluff!!! The most pressing concern is the affect it will have on our sun, and it has arrived at the worst possible moment, that is when our sun is heading towards a solar maximum cycle that is, in and of itself, already predicted to be the most active cycle that modern man has and will experience: Solar Cycle 24. To put it mildly, it has the capability of causing a sustained electro-magnetic pulse across the entire Earth, for months, years, decades, centuries… for millennia. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15968881 LOL. I think that would make life on earth very tenuous. So there is evidence that humans are incorpreal and that the biological body is occupied with a form of gravitational wave. Any thoughts on this idea in realtion to potential effects from a sustanined EMP? |
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babycakes User ID: 13666022 United States 05/13/2012 01:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATED - - - - FINALLY! New Information from IBEX that continues to verify we are entering a highly magnetized/energetic region of the Fluff!!! The most pressing concern is the affect it will have on our sun, and it has arrived at the worst possible moment, that is when our sun is heading towards a solar maximum cycle that is, in and of itself, already predicted to be the most active cycle that modern man has and will experience: Solar Cycle 24. To put it mildly, it has the capability of causing a sustained electro-magnetic pulse across the entire Earth, for months, years, decades, centuries… for millennia. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15968881 LOL. I think that would make life on earth very tenuous. Maybe...maybe not..... the military is using an EMP cap.. mild charge for soldiers learning weapons and in using them....I read an article where the reporter used one to train on a weapon and 1- she was fast in learning and her marksmanship was high, and 2-- (I think the most important) her confidence, calmness, serenity levels increased tremendously..She wrote it silenced her inner voice that always fed into the insecurities and fear of failure.... from her description it sounded like an emp/spiritual experience...Just think what will happen to us when it hits us good..!!!! Life will be different, probably better! Seeker of Universal Truths. Live from MT Summit! |
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babycakes User ID: 13666022 United States 05/13/2012 01:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATED - - - - FINALLY! New Information from IBEX that continues to verify we are entering a highly magnetized/energetic region of the Fluff!!! Quoting: mistersplinter Ya like zombies, Huh?...nah it will help 'evolve' us...My thoughts are that it will change the signatures of the brain waves..because are thoughts will be different and it will affect everything else....but if you want zombies...go for it...just don't bring 'em to my house for dinner Seeker of Universal Truths. Live from MT Summit! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1512633 United States 05/13/2012 01:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATED - - - - FINALLY! New Information from IBEX that continues to verify we are entering a highly magnetized/energetic region of the Fluff!!! DNA can be altered remotely through energy this is scientific fact by how we found the method of communication between DNA. 97% of our DNA is single stranded not in helix form, what happens when this energy fuses the rest of our DNA becomes double helixed?? Its happening already ive been observing the changes in myself for over 2 years now. My conclusion, Telepathy telekensis levitation clairvoyance etc ita real the only thing dtopping you is your self doubt let me know when were all ready and we will create our paradise. ;) the truth |
HisEyesRopen User ID: 14749236 United States 05/13/2012 01:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATED - - - - FINALLY! New Information from IBEX that continues to verify we are entering a highly magnetized/energetic region of the Fluff!!! What is the possibility that the forces within Fluffy could rip the planets away from the sun? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15968881 More than likely if the density of the fluff increases, that would cause the sun to decrease its speed... Also would the planetary centripetal speeds also be impacted from the denser fluff causing the centripetal speeds to decrease and possibly moving the earth closer to the sun??? Since this could also effect the earths magnetic field, could there be a pole shift??? Could the earths rotation be impacted from the denser fluff causing the earths rotation to decrease in speed??? |
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mistersplinter User ID: 12261497 United States 05/13/2012 01:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATED - - - - FINALLY! New Information from IBEX that continues to verify we are entering a highly magnetized/energetic region of the Fluff!!! Quoting: mistersplinter Ya like zombies, Huh?...nah it will help 'evolve' us...My thoughts are that it will change the signatures of the brain waves..because are thoughts will be different and it will affect everything else....but if you want zombies...go for it...just don't bring 'em to my house for dinner Shit no, I don't want them, but I am not certain everybody will 'evolve' in a nice orderly fashion. As per the article, what happens when you run that 9-volt battery through the mind of a sociopath? Perhaps zombie was a poor choice of words; if the article is the right hand, I was trying to envision the left. "I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." -- Albert Einstein |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1451472 United States 05/13/2012 01:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATED - - - - FINALLY! New Information from IBEX that continues to verify we are entering a highly magnetized/energetic region of the Fluff!!! Basically, the solar system (heliosphere) is SLOWING DOWN as it has come upon a denser area of the Interstellar Cloud, called Fluff. All information that has been coming out points to the idea that we are, in fact, encountering denser energies. Quoting: Swinging on Spirals For me, this means a lot as it verifies so much research done! IBEX’s novel imaging technique has unleashed one surprise after another. Now principal investigator David McComas (Southwest Research Institute) and 10 colleagues have turned IBEX's attention to the Sun's motion through space. It turns out that the Sun is moving through interstellar gas at 52,000 miles (84,000 km) per hour, about 12% slower than previously measured by the Ulysses spacecraft. So what does the new model look like? IBEX's observations confirm that the Sun is still moving (albeit slowly) through the Local Interstellar Cloud, a fluff of higher density gas roughly 30 light-years across. Combined with a relatively strong interstellar magnetic field, the Sun's slower advance is no longer enough to push interstellar gas into a bow shock. At best, it makes a "bow wave," a region of slightly increased density — more like a fast-moving boat than a fighter jet. This means a significant change in how scientists think about the Sun and its interaction with the stuff beyond its influence. "It's too early to say exactly what this new data means for our heliosphere. Decades of research have explored scenarios that included a bow shock. That research now has to be redone using the latest data," says McComas. "Observations of a few astrospheres have shown bow shocks around those stars, but IBEX has shown that our star has a fundamentally different environment surrounding it," says Christina Prested (Boston University), an IBEX scientist not involved in the published study. "These results are very exciting as we can now definitively say what it's like in the neighborhood of our solar system." [link to www.skyandtelescope.com] Where are you getting the idea that the sun is slowing down? These articles are using the word "slower" to mean "slower than previously thought", NOT "slowing down." Lordy, digging deep here for a little doom... |
Sirius Bull User ID: 14242817 Canada 05/13/2012 01:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATED - - - - FINALLY! New Information from IBEX that continues to verify we are entering a highly magnetized/energetic region of the Fluff!!! Hey SS great article I'm glad you're still here ;) I am more scientist than psychic but I had 3 words burst through in a dream recently. Predict, Pysche, and Unity. I have been thinking all along that fluffy might bring this change. "complete the human circuit" if you will. Another message this morning encouraging me to tell somebody. I suppose If I have any power to manifest this reality, it will come to pass. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15953716 Mexico 05/13/2012 01:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATED - - - - FINALLY! New Information from IBEX that continues to verify we are entering a highly magnetized/energetic region of the Fluff!!! Basically, the solar system (heliosphere) is SLOWING DOWN as it has come upon a denser area of the Interstellar Cloud, called Fluff. All information that has been coming out points to the idea that we are, in fact, encountering denser energies. Quoting: Swinging on Spirals For me, this means a lot as it verifies so much research done! IBEX’s novel imaging technique has unleashed one surprise after another. Now principal investigator David McComas (Southwest Research Institute) and 10 colleagues have turned IBEX's attention to the Sun's motion through space. It turns out that the Sun is moving through interstellar gas at 52,000 miles (84,000 km) per hour, about 12% slower than previously measured by the Ulysses spacecraft. So what does the new model look like? IBEX's observations confirm that the Sun is still moving (albeit slowly) through the Local Interstellar Cloud, a fluff of higher density gas roughly 30 light-years across. Combined with a relatively strong interstellar magnetic field, the Sun's slower advance is no longer enough to push interstellar gas into a bow shock. At best, it makes a "bow wave," a region of slightly increased density — more like a fast-moving boat than a fighter jet. This means a significant change in how scientists think about the Sun and its interaction with the stuff beyond its influence. "It's too early to say exactly what this new data means for our heliosphere. Decades of research have explored scenarios that included a bow shock. That research now has to be redone using the latest data," says McComas. "Observations of a few astrospheres have shown bow shocks around those stars, but IBEX has shown that our star has a fundamentally different environment surrounding it," says Christina Prested (Boston University), an IBEX scientist not involved in the published study. "These results are very exciting as we can now definitively say what it's like in the neighborhood of our solar system." [link to www.skyandtelescope.com] Where are you getting the idea that the sun is slowing down? These articles are using the word "slower" to mean "slower than previously thought", NOT "slowing down." Lordy, digging deep here for a little doom... |
babycakes User ID: 13666022 United States 05/13/2012 01:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATED - - - - FINALLY! New Information from IBEX that continues to verify we are entering a highly magnetized/energetic region of the Fluff!!! Ya like zombies, Huh?...nah it will help 'evolve' us...My thoughts are that it will change the signatures of the brain waves..because are thoughts will be different and it will affect everything else....but if you want zombies...go for it...just don't bring 'em to my house for dinner Shit no, I don't want them, but I am not certain everybody will 'evolve' in a nice orderly fashion. As per the article, what happens when you run that 9-volt battery through the mind of a sociopath? Perhaps zombie was a poor choice of words; if the article is the right hand, I was trying to envision the left. I understand where your thoughts are coming from. I, too, have wondered that..and schizophrenics? I think to 'transition' without too much difficulty, one would have to be accepting and open to the possibilities and of course, love..hey, we are hijacking this thread aren't we? Seeker of Universal Truths. Live from MT Summit! |
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babycakes User ID: 13666022 United States 05/13/2012 01:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATED - - - - FINALLY! New Information from IBEX that continues to verify we are entering a highly magnetized/energetic region of the Fluff!!! DNA can be altered remotely through energy this is scientific fact by how we found the method of communication between DNA. 97% of our DNA is single stranded not in helix form, what happens when this energy fuses the rest of our DNA becomes double helixed?? Its happening already ive been observing the changes in myself for over 2 years now. My conclusion, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1512633 Telepathy telekensis levitation clairvoyance etc ita real the only thing dtopping you is your self doubt let me know when were all ready and we will create our paradise. ;) the truth I like how you think. I do have experiences now that I didn't think possible, and I didn't ask for them. Seeker of Universal Truths. Live from MT Summit! |
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mistersplinter User ID: 12261497 United States 05/13/2012 01:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATED - - - - FINALLY! New Information from IBEX that continues to verify we are entering a highly magnetized/energetic region of the Fluff!!! Ya like zombies, Huh?...nah it will help 'evolve' us...My thoughts are that it will change the signatures of the brain waves..because are thoughts will be different and it will affect everything else....but if you want zombies...go for it...just don't bring 'em to my house for dinner Quoting: babycakes Shit no, I don't want them, but I am not certain everybody will 'evolve' in a nice orderly fashion. As per the article, what happens when you run that 9-volt battery through the mind of a sociopath? Perhaps zombie was a poor choice of words; if the article is the right hand, I was trying to envision the left. I understand where your thoughts are coming from. I, too, have wondered that..and schizophrenics? I think to 'transition' without too much difficulty, one would have to be accepting and open to the possibilities and of course, love..hey, we are hijacking this thread aren't we? Yes. Sorry SoS, you can't imagine how good it is to see a great, non-race, non-class, non-political thread. Done hijacking... 5*s "I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." -- Albert Einstein |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7261678 United States 05/13/2012 01:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UPDATED - - - - FINALLY! New Information from IBEX that continues to verify we are entering a highly magnetized/energetic region of the Fluff!!! Not only is the fluff slowing down the trajectory speed of the sun, it's also slowing down everything in conjunction with the sun, that's us included. Those trumpet sounds emanating from the skies, that's the sound of our magnetosphere bending. Is that why when things slow down, time feels like its moving faster? |
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