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Your Preachers Have Taught You That The MARK Is A Physical One...It's NOT

 
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Damn, have y'all even read the Bible? It's all spiritual. The mark on the forehead represents the mind, the right hand represents your actions.

Stop listening to your pastors/preachers and study for yourselves.
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in that case, you, me we all have ALREADY accepted it.

The mark of the beast is simply having faith in paper currency, under the control of sinister forces i.e. the Federal Reserve et. al.

So, we all scramble for paper or digital currency, and it holds no intrinsic value, and is backed by nothing.

you 'soul', or liberty, is what is in jepaordy. Even though I believe the bible is a bad faith misrepresentation formulated by the elites, i still think SOME of it is worth keeping, some are sound philosphical views and others are a clue to what the elite told us what they will do, of course through self demonization as claiming the "kingdom of satan" for themselves.
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Damn, have y'all even read the Bible? It's all spiritual. The mark on the forehead represents the mind, the right hand represents your actions.

Stop listening to your pastors/preachers and study for yourselves.
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I completely disagree.

The bible call that a mark (= visible marking) and says it'll be put and/or implanted like slave's marking in the old times. If it was not visible, would not be called mark.

And why the "right hand OR forehead"? Mind turns to action, and actions reflect what's in the mind. The distinction makes no sense.

By toughts and action, all the unsaved world is already marked, so it's meaningless.

I agree that the mark is also used a signal of allegiance (right hand) to the system. It's not difficult to see this.

The right hand/forehead distinction might be also a distinction to signal who is free and who is bond (slave) in that society. (Rev 13:16)

As for the RFID, you have a point, the mark will probably be much more sofisticated than a RFID.

The bible says the antichrist will cause people to have the mark. It might also mean he will cause people (unsaved) to want/desire to have the mark, so is the level of deception. Might it be that's because the mark has lots of extra functionalities beyond being just a device to buy and sell?

And after having the mark, it seems people can't turn back (repent) later. So it might involve some kind of mind control device making people lose full control of their toughts/minds.
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the mark is in your pocket. it's your money.

money is the mark. people would rather do things for money rather than love, which is what we were put here to exchange.

you are incapable of doing anything anymore because you cannot gain over somebody else if there is not money involved.

money is the mark.
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Oh, but it does. Many false prophets are leading God's elect astray by telling them that some sort of computer chip will mark them. They have no idea.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


So if the mark is in the mind and the right hand, what is it a mark of? taking or not taking a chip? is that all?

ty
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The word MARK in Hebrew, means a badge, or servitude. That says a lot.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth



Servitude = The state of being a slave or completely subject to someone more powerful.

That's EXACTLY what a BIRTH CERTIFICATE makes of you. You need to get your nose out of religion and stick it into "law" and learn about what is really going on.
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good connection. The hardened belief systems taught in the bible are a bad faith attempt to keep peopl FROM christ conciousness.
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The "mark of the beast" =

Being BORN!


if you ask me :)
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Damn, have y'all even read the Bible? It's all spiritual. The mark on the forehead represents the mind, the right hand represents your actions.

Stop listening to your pastors/preachers and study for yourselves.
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They don't NEED to put any marks on your hand or forehead, you already have them. The ones on your hands are obvious, but do to facial recognition software and the fact that we update our faces for the database every four years, the mark on your head IS your face.

But that wont stop me from enjoying my pies.
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Damn, have y'all even read the Bible? It's all spiritual. The mark on the forehead represents the mind, the right hand represents your actions.

Stop listening to your pastors/preachers and study for yourselves.
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But I'm left-handed and I don't believe y'all was ever in the Bible. tounge
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The whole chip/RFID is a distraction. It has NOTHING to do with the true mark. God is gonna be mad because you chose to be chipped? LOL.
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wow. You are one of the little anti-christs if you are espousing this nonsense. The Bible was very clear that this was a physical mark that would determine who could buy and sell. Why do you think everywhere you turn now TPTB are trying to prepare to chip people. I see you serve them now clearly. Anyway, your side will lose despite the lies and deceit.
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Damn, have y'all even read the Bible? It's all spiritual. The mark on the forehead represents the mind, the right hand represents your actions.

Stop listening to your pastors/preachers and study for yourselves.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Its "ALL" Spiritual?
Christ rose from grave in physical manor.
Moses literally turned water into blood.
and Satan will rise from a fatal wound once he is in a physical body.

Im not arguing that the mark my be a spiritual mark.

But please be careful thinking its ALL just spiritual or symbolic...

Peace in Christ.
 Quoting: JoshuaShanholtz


Like I said...it IS indeed spiritual. Read the texts in Hebrew and Greek. It has nothing and I mean NOTHING to do with a chip, social security card, ID, etc.

That is false teaching.

Explain to me why God would be upset that we choose to have an implant??
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I don't believe the way the English has it written in Revelations...the word translated into English as "receive"...in something like 149 other times is translated "give"!!!!! I am NOT A FAN OF ANTAGONYMS!!! I don't think God likes antagonyms either...I think the section (in English) in Revelations should read...

and they were not able to buy nor sell, save THEY GAVE THEIR MARK TO THE BEAST

Or it should be translated something like that...

That said...I think the people give their DNA to the system. The word for "mark" is the word for "personal seal" - it was a wax mark used to "definitely identify" somebody...just like our DNA
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It's both, spiritual and physical.

There's definitely going to have to be a physical aspect to the mark. Otherwise, how is that clerk at 7-11, who's never met you before in his life, going to know that you aren't allowed to buy anything? The clerk has no idea what your spiritual state is, so he's going to require something tangible to be able to make that determination about you.
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You clearly have NO idea what you're talking about...AT ALL.

It has NOTHING to do whether God gets pissed whether you're chipped or not. It has everything to do with the chip melding with said person's bio-signature and then being uploaded PERMANENTLY into a computer mainframe which can re-animate, and re-boot you at will. Once your bio-signature is recorded, its just like anything else on the internet which NEVER goes away.

What's even worse about YOUR THREAD is the fact that you speak as if YOU KNOW. Do us all a favor and stay asleep. We don't need surface thinkers screwing up others...
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Jesus drove the "money changers" out of the TEMPLE for doing business (money) IN THE TEMPLE.

Jesus declared that HIS BODY was THE TEMPLE.

Paul in Romans says "What, know ye not that YOUR BODY is THE TEMPLE of the Holy Ghost...."

So, putting a microchip that deals with MONEY AND COMMERCE... INSIDE THE BODY/TEMPLE would at the VERY LEAST make God very angry just as it did JESUS when the money changers were doing business IN THE TEMPLE.

I am not letting MONEY in MY TEMPLE. No implants!!

You are right, the mark IS spiritual FIRST and FOREMOST, but those who have taken the spiritual mark will ALSO take the physical manifestation OF THAT MARK.

Do NOT fall for the fact that it's okay to take the microchip simply because we understand the mark is spiritual!

It's a deception!

Satan is very crafty. Remember that!

Peace :-)
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Damn, have y'all even read the Bible? It's all spiritual. The mark on the forehead represents the mind, the right hand represents your actions.

Stop listening to your pastors/preachers and study for yourselves.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


So I shouldn't listen to pastors/preachers but I should listen to you? Who the fuck are you? Why should I take christian advice from someone who is jewish? You dumbasses never even figured out that Jesus was the messenger that had been foretold for thousands of years and your still waiting for the messiah. I'm not sure why it is that people think that jewish folk are smart but you people are the dumbest people on earth. Ever since the jewish took over the planet everything has been fucked and we have been on the brink of extinction. Your ideas are alien to us and yet you try to force them upon us. Homosexuality, abortion, women's lib, etc. have all come from jewish people. Anyone who doesn't believe me can look it up for themselves.
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Jesus drove the "money changers" out of the TEMPLE for doing business (money) IN THE TEMPLE.

Jesus declared that HIS BODY was THE TEMPLE.

Paul in Romans says "What, know ye not that YOUR BODY is THE TEMPLE of the Holy Ghost...."

So, putting a microchip that deals with MONEY AND COMMERCE... INSIDE THE BODY/TEMPLE would at the VERY LEAST make God very angry just as it did JESUS when the money changers were doing business IN THE TEMPLE.

I am not letting MONEY in MY TEMPLE. No implants!!

You are right, the mark IS spiritual FIRST and FOREMOST, but those who have taken the spiritual mark will ALSO take the physical manifestation OF THAT MARK.

Do NOT fall for the fact that it's okay to take the microchip simply because we understand the mark is spiritual!

It's a deception!

Satan is very crafty. Remember that!

Peace :-)
 Quoting: Mr_Electric


That's all find, but has nothing to do with the MoB.

You can do as you say and still have the mark of the beast - if you serve the beast and keep not god's law. (Rev.14:9-12)
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Jesus drove the "money changers" out of the TEMPLE for doing business (money) IN THE TEMPLE.

Jesus declared that HIS BODY was THE TEMPLE.

Paul in Romans says "What, know ye not that YOUR BODY is THE TEMPLE of the Holy Ghost...."

So, putting a microchip that deals with MONEY AND COMMERCE... INSIDE THE BODY/TEMPLE would at the VERY LEAST make God very angry just as it did JESUS when the money changers were doing business IN THE TEMPLE.

I am not letting MONEY in MY TEMPLE. No implants!!

You are right, the mark IS spiritual FIRST and FOREMOST, but those who have taken the spiritual mark will ALSO take the physical manifestation OF THAT MARK.

Do NOT fall for the fact that it's okay to take the microchip simply because we understand the mark is spiritual!

It's a deception!

Satan is very crafty. Remember that!

Peace :-)
 Quoting: Mr_Electric


Excellent post!

One thing I've been thinking is that they've been training us for a while now that we should be presenting something identifying whenever we make a purchase.

It began with those cards that all the stores started asking people to sign up for and present at the register in order to the get the sale prices on purchases and receive bonuses, coupons, etc. Every time I go to the grocery store the checkout clerk asks me for my card, and looks at me like I have 2 heads when I say I don't have or want one.

All the pharmacies here are now asking everyone to present their ID in order to be able to purchase any medicine, and the number of your ID and your name are entered into a computer at the cash register. They never did this before.

The government is also requiring that RFID chips be installed on every private vehicle.

More and more we are being asked to show an ID or be tagged to be able to do things or purchase items that never required us to show ID/be tagged before.

The mark is definitely going to be physical. Sheesh, they're tagging everything else, our pets, our cars, our appliances, the products we purchase. It's only a matter of time before they tag us too. Anyone who doesn't take the mark will undoubtedly be labeled a terrorist, black marketeer, or [insert nefarious label here].

Speaking of black markets, it's almost as if the world's governments have been going out of their way to create them. First with the war on drugs and now with the huge hike in cigarette prices worldwide. A black market is legislated into existence, then more legislation is passed to crack down on it, until finally everyone ends up with a microscope up their rectum. I'm only mentioning this, because I have a feeling that they're going to use shutting down black markets as one of their excuses for mandating the mark.
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Damn, have y'all even read the Bible? It's all spiritual. The mark on the forehead represents the mind, the right hand represents your actions.

Stop listening to your pastors/preachers and study for yourselves.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Did you just fall off the turnip truck, or what? How old are you?

Don't get around much eh!

Oh yeah, that's right, you hang around glp allot huh!

Silly girl!


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if the chip were spiritual....then how does that fit in that
you can't buy or sell without it??

If you're NOT sure....then DON'T take anything that looks like the mark of the beast....

I WILL NOT get the chip.....

to me, this could be a life and death matter....

so, people, please be careful what you preach
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Damn, have y'all even read the Bible? It's all spiritual. The mark on the forehead represents the mind, the right hand represents your actions.

Stop listening to your pastors/preachers and study for yourselves.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Its "ALL" Spiritual?
Christ rose from grave in physical manor.
Moses literally turned water into blood.
and Satan will rise from a fatal wound once he is in a physical body.

Im not arguing that the mark my be a spiritual mark.

But please be careful thinking its ALL just spiritual or symbolic...

Peace in Christ.
 Quoting: JoshuaShanholtz


Like I said...it IS indeed spiritual. Read the texts in Hebrew and Greek. It has nothing and I mean NOTHING to do with a chip, social security card, ID, etc.

That is false teaching.

Explain to me why God would be upset that we choose to have an implant??
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth



you're kidding, right?

this is the most damaging thread I've seen here to date...

Txgal.....beware what you preach....you may be influencing people to take the chip....and if IT IS THE MARK.....

you will have a lot of blood on your hands....
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And here I thought you were a real Christian. The LORD rebuke thee, for it is a physical mark. The mark of the LORD is the one that is not seen. Ruhamah
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Damn, have y'all even read the Bible? It's all spiritual. The mark on the forehead represents the mind, the right hand represents your actions.

Stop listening to your pastors/preachers and study for yourselves.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Its "ALL" Spiritual?
Christ rose from grave in physical manor.
Moses literally turned water into blood.
and Satan will rise from a fatal wound once he is in a physical body.

Im not arguing that the mark my be a spiritual mark.

But please be careful thinking its ALL just spiritual or symbolic...

Peace in Christ.
 Quoting: JoshuaShanholtz


Like I said...it IS indeed spiritual. Read the texts in Hebrew and Greek. It has nothing and I mean NOTHING to do with a chip, social security card, ID, etc.

That is false teaching.

Explain to me why God would be upset that we choose to have an implant??
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth



you're kidding, right?

this is the most damaging thread I've seen here to date...

Txgal.....beware what you preach....you may be influencing people to take the chip....and if IT IS THE MARK.....

you will have a lot of blood on your hands....
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No. I'm not kidding, and I'm NOT telling people to be chipped. Everyone has been taught that the MARK is a tattoo or chip...it's NOT. My goodness, did folks not mock Christ as well for saying the things HE did?

Is the Mark of the Beast a Microchip?
Let's quickly look at this theory of the mark being a chip or some sort of technology. There is one big problem with this theory which most Christians miss. If the government forced upon you a chip or ID card or whatever, and yet you carried on serving God with all your heart and soul and kept His commandments. Would you have the mark of the beast and therefore be lost and cast into the lake of fire on the day of judgment? Of course not! How could God reject you for just receiving a chip or ID, even though you are still loving, obeying and serving Him? It's not possible. The only way to receive the mark would be to go against God and His Commandments, and follow the beast instead of God. This issue is all to do with WORSHIP.

Now could a chip or ID card be used by the beast system to keep track of people in the end times? Could this technology be used to stop those of us who refuse the mark of the beast from "buying and selling"? (Rev. 13:17) Yes! But in of itself, technology CANNOT, and I cannot stress this strong enough, CANNOT be the beasts mark that causes the undiluted wrath of God.

God is not concerned with material things. After all, He is a Spirit and is concerned with spiritual matters. He is concerned with how we worship Him, because He is seeking those who worship in spirit and truth. Please think very carefully about this issue, so that you will not be deceived like so many will be. Satan is the arch deceiver, and He is using all his spiritual powers to deceive the world into taking the mark of the beast. But how deceiving would it be to just enforce a microchip or card as the mark? Not deceiving at all. What does Revelation 13:14 say?

Revelation 13:14 ...'And he DECEIVED them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do.'

[link to www.markofbeast.net]
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Here y'all go...

Is the Mark of the Beast a Microchip?

Let's quickly look at this theory of the mark being a chip or some sort of technology. There is one big problem with this theory which most Christians miss. If the government forced upon you a chip or ID card or whatever, and yet you carried on serving God with all your heart and soul and kept His commandments. Would you have the mark of the beast and therefore be lost and cast into the lake of fire on the day of judgment? Of course not! How could God reject you for just receiving a chip or ID, even though you are still loving, obeying and serving Him? It's not possible. The only way to receive the mark would be to go against God and His Commandments, and follow the beast instead of God. This issue is all to do with WORSHIP.

Now could a chip or ID card be used by the beast system to keep track of people in the end times? Could this technology be used to stop those of us who refuse the mark of the beast from "buying and selling"? (Rev. 13:17) Yes! But in of itself, technology CANNOT, and I cannot stress this strong enough, CANNOT be the beasts mark that causes the undiluted wrath of God.

God is not concerned with material things. After all, He is a Spirit and is concerned with spiritual matters. He is concerned with how we worship Him, because He is seeking those who worship in spirit and truth. Please think very carefully about this issue, so that you will not be deceived like so many will be. Satan is the arch deceiver, and He is using all his spiritual powers to deceive the world into taking the mark of the beast. But how deceiving would it be to just enforce a microchip or card as the mark? Not deceiving at all. What does Revelation 13:14 say?

Revelation 13:14 ...'And he DECEIVED them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do.'

The real mark of the beast must be a spiritual mark that is received as a result of us going against God and His law. It cannot be a physical mark. Please understand this. Satan is going to deceive the world into accepting a law of the Roman Catholic beast, which will go against the law of our Creator God. Take a look at what the result of receiving this mark will be.


Revelation 14:9-10 ...'And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb.'

Did you see what it said? The angel represents Gods messengers on earth, and they are saying that the mark of the beast is to do with WORSHIP! Anyone who "worships" the beast, by accepting its laws and traditions over the law of God will receive its mark. Therefore those who receive the beasts mark will be those who follow the beast (Roman Catholic Church), or its image (church-state union in America) instead of God. And they will be thrown into the lake of fire. The world has a choice to make in the last days, and the choice is to either obey God, or obey satan and his beast.

But the word "Mark" in Revelation 13 means a literal mark!

Yes, and so does the word "beast" in Revelation 13 mean a literal beast. And the "dragon" in Revelation 12 mean a literal dragon. And the "harlot woman" in Revelation 17, riding a "scarlet beast" means a literal prostitute woman riding a literal red beast. And so on...

Are we now to say that we will have literal beasts roaming the earth forcing the world to worship them? And a literal prostitute riding a beast, causing the world to follow her? No. Revelation is FULL of symbolic language. And just because the meaning of a certain word points to the literal thing itself. Doesn't mean it will be literal in real life. It's symbolic. Same applies to the mark of the beast.

Read the rest here: [link to www.markofbeast.net]

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Ummmm aren't the 144000 sealed in their foreheads ?
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A seal is a mark, yes ?
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OP, your theory is based on the government "forcing" people to receive some type of physical implant? correct?
What is the mark was some type of new technology that would reverse aging, that would allow humans to live to be 500 years old, that would blend animal/human genetics to give people supper humans abilities? Do you suppose our government would have to force such a technology or would the masses line up by the thousand?
I suggest that such a technology is on the horizon.
Search Tom Horn, he's done some outstanding research on this topic.
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Mat.6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. (Luke 16:13 says the same thing.)

You can't take the mark and claim to worship God.
If you accept the mark of the beast, you have chosen to serve mammon.

The mark is both spiritual and physical.
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The mark is physical, and it will change your DNA. That is the abomination of desolation standing in the Holy Place (The temple, which is your body is the holy place)
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Here y'all go...

Is the Mark of the Beast a Microchip?

Let's quickly look at this theory of the mark being a chip or some sort of technology. There is one big problem with this theory which most Christians miss. If the government forced upon you a chip or ID card or whatever, and yet you carried on serving God with all your heart and soul and kept His commandments. Would you have the mark of the beast and therefore be lost and cast into the lake of fire on the day of judgment? Of course not! How could God reject you for just receiving a chip or ID, even though you are still loving, obeying and serving Him? It's not possible. The only way to receive the mark would be to go against God and His Commandments, and follow the beast instead of God. This issue is all to do with WORSHIP.

Now could a chip or ID card be used by the beast system to keep track of people in the end times? Could this technology be used to stop those of us who refuse the mark of the beast from "buying and selling"? (Rev. 13:17) Yes! But in of itself, technology CANNOT, and I cannot stress this strong enough, CANNOT be the beasts mark that causes the undiluted wrath of God.

God is not concerned with material things. After all, He is a Spirit and is concerned with spiritual matters. He is concerned with how we worship Him, because He is seeking those who worship in spirit and truth. Please think very carefully about this issue, so that you will not be deceived like so many will be. Satan is the arch deceiver, and He is using all his spiritual powers to deceive the world into taking the mark of the beast. But how deceiving would it be to just enforce a microchip or card as the mark? Not deceiving at all. What does Revelation 13:14 say?

Revelation 13:14 ...'And he DECEIVED them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do.'

The real mark of the beast must be a spiritual mark that is received as a result of us going against God and His law. It cannot be a physical mark. Please understand this. Satan is going to deceive the world into accepting a law of the Roman Catholic beast, which will go against the law of our Creator God. Take a look at what the result of receiving this mark will be.


Revelation 14:9-10 ...'And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb.'

Did you see what it said? The angel represents Gods messengers on earth, and they are saying that the mark of the beast is to do with WORSHIP! Anyone who "worships" the beast, by accepting its laws and traditions over the law of God will receive its mark. Therefore those who receive the beasts mark will be those who follow the beast (Roman Catholic Church), or its image (church-state union in America) instead of God. And they will be thrown into the lake of fire. The world has a choice to make in the last days, and the choice is to either obey God, or obey satan and his beast.

But the word "Mark" in Revelation 13 means a literal mark!

Yes, and so does the word "beast" in Revelation 13 mean a literal beast. And the "dragon" in Revelation 12 mean a literal dragon. And the "harlot woman" in Revelation 17, riding a "scarlet beast" means a literal prostitute woman riding a literal red beast. And so on...

Are we now to say that we will have literal beasts roaming the earth forcing the world to worship them? And a literal prostitute riding a beast, causing the world to follow her? No. Revelation is FULL of symbolic language. And just because the meaning of a certain word points to the literal thing itself. Doesn't mean it will be literal in real life. It's symbolic. Same applies to the mark of the beast.

Read the rest here: [link to www.markofbeast.net]
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That's a Seventh Day Adventist site. The SDA's are right about Sunday not being the Sabbath, but I don't believe they are right about a National Sunday Law being the mark of the beast.
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Damn, have y'all even read the Bible? It's all spiritual. The mark on the forehead represents the mind, the right hand represents your actions.

Stop listening to your pastors/preachers and study for yourselves.
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You know when you read the Bible, some things written have both the literal and simbolical meaning, so I think it can be both. If it's one of that, I go for the simbolic one, forehead - thought, hand - action. Every action is born in mind, simple. Cheers :)

Matthew 6:22-23 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness.





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