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Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality

 
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Okay, then is there a way to write a Genius so we aren't ignoring parts of reality?
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It is normal to ignore parts of reality. We ignore that which is not relevant to us at the time.

But as I've said before, the "ignored" parts are all ready illustrated in that which is relevant.

So in that way it is impossible for you to ignore those other parts of reality.

The question is probably something like, "I heard about X reality and would like to experience it. How do I?"

As it becomes relevant then it will be experienced.

That is the nature of using the Genius steps provided. In that way you can make something more relative to your experience.

So find the parts that you'd like to make more relative and you can make a model for that.

I hope the answer is a bit clear. The question is more recursive so the answer may be a bit confusing.
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Okay, you're saying we will always ignore a part of reality. And the purpose of the Genius is to make these ignored parts relevant. So, there will always be a reason to use a Genius.

I sure wonder when one gets to where you are in all this, how much is left to explore. But, I guess there will always be something.

Thanks Chaol!
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I have only explored just a little more than most here. It goes on forever, you know.

The purpose of the Genius is not to evolve. It does not evolve. Your next experience could well-be a 'step back' (as you would see it). The only thing that matters is what is relative.

Reality is a giant playground. There is nothing important to do, no task that needs to be performed, nothing absolute, nothing urgent. You have all the time in the universe to perceive nothing. It's boring, so you spend all the time in the universe pretending that you're going somewhere.

This works for me, and it works for others. You just spend time making up logic and forgetting about it (thus, your current state of affairs).

This logic can be as simple or as complex as you want it to be. You can make up a logic that will take you trillions of years to get out of, if you want.

Your own logic lasts a lifetime :)

There is really nothing that we must do.

Yes, "nothing" will all ways be ignored. But practically speaking there are vast aspects of your current reality that are not meant for exploration at this time. You have all the time in the universe to figure it out. And when you've figured it out you stop existing (which, of course, is to be resisted at all costs).

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Usually nexus points change past/present/future in a way appropriate to its 'size' but this one seems to change the entire universe.
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Chaol, somewhere in these threads you asked, "What is the New Age?" I think that some of us would tell you that it is what you've described here. Some of us have anticipated just such a scenario.
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Thank you for the "Reality is a playground" bit of inspiration. I have thought on this before and wondered why my fun always seemed to get cut short just when I was getting warmed up. Only a few days ago, it occurred to me that one of the overarching values in my lifetime has been that of "obligation".

I'm really bored with this value. It has affected me now for over half a century. I want to trade it in for something else.
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Okay, then is there a way to write a Genius so we aren't ignoring parts of reality?
 Quoting: Unit3


It is normal to ignore parts of reality. We ignore that which is not relevant to us at the time.

But as I've said before, the "ignored" parts are all ready illustrated in that which is relevant.

So in that way it is impossible for you to ignore those other parts of reality.

The question is probably something like, "I heard about X reality and would like to experience it. How do I?"

As it becomes relevant then it will be experienced.

That is the nature of using the Genius steps provided. In that way you can make something more relative to your experience.

So find the parts that you'd like to make more relative and you can make a model for that.

I hope the answer is a bit clear. The question is more recursive so the answer may be a bit confusing.
 Quoting: Chaol

Okay, you're saying we will always ignore a part of reality. And the purpose of the Genius is to make these ignored parts relevant. So, there will always be a reason to use a Genius.

I sure wonder when one gets to where you are in all this, how much is left to explore. But, I guess there will always be something.

Thanks Chaol!
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I have only explored just a little more than most here. It goes on forever, you know.

The purpose of the Genius is not to evolve. It does not evolve. Your next experience could well-be a 'step back' (as you would see it). The only thing that matters is what is relative.

Reality is a giant playground. There is nothing important to do, no task that needs to be performed, nothing absolute, nothing urgent. You have all the time in the universe to perceive nothing. It's boring, so you spend all the time in the universe pretending that you're going somewhere.

This works for me, and it works for others. You just spend time making up logic and forgetting about it (thus, your current state of affairs).

This logic can be as simple or as complex as you want it to be. You can make up a logic that will take you trillions of years to get out of, if you want.

Your own logic lasts a lifetime :)

There is really nothing that we must do.

Yes, "nothing" will all ways be ignored. But practically speaking there are vast aspects of your current reality that is not meant for exploration at this time. You have all the time in the universe to figure it out. And when you've figured it out you stop existing (which, of course, is to be resisted at all costs).
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I tell you what, Chaol. If I could write something like you did in the Great Minds thread (we call it the Tao of Chaol), I'd be very, very happy. To me, you are more evolved than I am. And actually, this is what motivates me. I'm messing with Genius maps to learn how things work but I really want to have the awareness (or whatever you want to call it) that you do....or at least closer, heh!

I'm afraid doing nothing would bore me no end.

As far as my own logic lasting a lifetime, I assume all physicality is considered one lifetime (including the death experience.)? Which reminds me, I've been meaning to ask if in your world, do you talk about reincarnation and remembering "past lives"?

I"m curious about the statement I put in bold up above. How do you know there are aspects not meant for exploration at this time and how is it decided it's not meant? This is intriguing to me.

Thanks
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Usually nexus points change past/present/future in a way appropriate to its 'size' but this one seems to change the entire universe.
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Chaol, somewhere in these threads you asked, "What is the New Age?" I think that some of us would tell you that it is what you've described here. Some of us have anticipated just such a scenario.
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Yes, I've called it a cosmic event (others have too). What the result of it will be is another question though. There are as many ideas on that as there are people I suppose.

This brings up another question I've meant to ask you Chaol. Are there earth changes (such as we are having here) happening in your world?

Thanks
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"Every story points a finger back at you." Okay. I can accept that. But, what does that have to do with the Bible? I don't get it.

Are you referring to the cruxifiction? Mankind sacrificed on the cross and all that?
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I don't mind the Genius taking a thousand years to investigate an idea. This suits me. But, why does it present such a blockage in learning neuronics? As much time and effort as I have expended in studying neuronics, I could be speaking Mandarin by now instead. Has my Genius no prior experience with neuronics?
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Usually nexus points change past/present/future in a way appropriate to its 'size' but this one seems to change the entire universe.
 Quoting: Chaol


Chaol, somewhere in these threads you asked, "What is the New Age?" I think that some of us would tell you that it is what you've described here. Some of us have anticipated just such a scenario.
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Yes, I suppose it is then.
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Thank you for the "Reality is a playground" bit of inspiration. I have thought on this before and wondered why my fun always seemed to get cut short just when I was getting warmed up. Only a few days ago, it occurred to me that one of the overarching values in my lifetime has been that of "obligation".

I'm really bored with this value. It has affected me now for over half a century. I want to trade it in for something else.
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What would you like to trade 'er in for?
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I tell you what, Chaol. If I could write something like you did in the Great Minds thread (we call it the Tao of Chaol), I'd be very, very happy. To me, you are more evolved than I am. And actually, this is what motivates me. I'm messing with Genius maps to learn how things work but I really want to have the awareness (or whatever you want to call it) that you do....or at least closer, heh!
 Quoting: Unit3

But I'm just a value in your perspective, so I hold that it's impossible ;)

I'm afraid doing nothing would bore me no end.

As far as my own logic lasting a lifetime, I assume all physicality is considered one lifetime (including the death experience.)? Which reminds me, I've been meaning to ask if in your world, do you talk about reincarnation and remembering "past lives"?
 Quoting: Unit3

No, nothing about that.

I"m curious about the statement I put in bold up above. ["there are vast aspects of your current reality that are not meant for exploration at this time"] How do you know there are aspects not meant for exploration at this time and how is it decided it's not meant? This is intriguing to me.

Thanks
 Quoting: Unit3


...because those aspects are far from relativity in perspective :)

an other time, I suppose
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Usually nexus points change past/present/future in a way appropriate to its 'size' but this one seems to change the entire universe.
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Chaol, somewhere in these threads you asked, "What is the New Age?" I think that some of us would tell you that it is what you've described here. Some of us have anticipated just such a scenario.
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Yes, I've called it a cosmic event (others have too). What the result of it will be is another question though. There are as many ideas on that as there are people I suppose.

This brings up another question I've meant to ask you Chaol. Are there earth changes (such as we are having here) happening in your world?

Thanks
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Yes. But no other comments on this. It is 2013 after all.
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I don't mind the Genius taking a thousand years to investigate an idea. This suits me. But, why does it present such a blockage in learning neuronics? As much time and effort as I have expended in studying neuronics, I could be speaking Mandarin by now instead. Has my Genius no prior experience with neuronics?
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It's the building block of perspective, so your Genius is quite familiar with it. (It doesn't call it neuronics of course, but the fundamentals are the same.)

Some of us could spend an awfully long time figuring out how our perspective works.

There's no rule-of-thumb, time ways.

What is it that you really don't get? Perhaps I can help.
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/snips/

I tell you what, Chaol. If I could write something like you did in the Great Minds thread (we call it the Tao of Chaol), I'd be very, very happy. To me, you are more evolved than I am. And actually, this is what motivates me. I'm messing with Genius maps to learn how things work but I really want to have the awareness (or whatever you want to call it) that you do....or at least closer, heh!
 Quoting: Unit3

But I'm just a value in your perspective, so I hold that it's impossible ;)

I'm afraid doing nothing would bore me no end.

As far as my own logic lasting a lifetime, I assume all physicality is considered one lifetime (including the death experience.)? Which reminds me, I've been meaning to ask if in your world, do you talk about reincarnation and remembering "past lives"?
 Quoting: Unit3

No, nothing about that.

I"m curious about the statement I put in bold up above. ["there are vast aspects of your current reality that are not meant for exploration at this time"] How do you know there are aspects not meant for exploration at this time and how is it decided it's not meant? This is intriguing to me.

Thanks
 Quoting: Unit3


...because those aspects are far from relativity in perspective :)

an other time, I suppose
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Now I'm really confused. It seems to me since you're a value in my perspective, then it's possible??????? Iow, your Tao is becoming more relevant to my perperspective.


Is this a correct statement? A lifetime is what is authored NOW.


I see. So those aspects will be explored once they are relative. (which right now, looks a long time off)

Are they relative to your perspective? It seems they would have to be otherwise, how would you know about them?

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Usually nexus points change past/present/future in a way appropriate to its 'size' but this one seems to change the entire universe.
 Quoting: Chaol


Chaol, somewhere in these threads you asked, "What is the New Age?" I think that some of us would tell you that it is what you've described here. Some of us have anticipated just such a scenario.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29320200

Yes, I've called it a cosmic event (others have too). What the result of it will be is another question though. There are as many ideas on that as there are people I suppose.

This brings up another question I've meant to ask you Chaol. Are there earth changes (such as we are having here) happening in your world?

Thanks
 Quoting: Unit3

Yes. But no other comments on this. It is 2013 after all.
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Thanks and fair enough. But, I would like to ask why you keep saying it's 2013. You must be expecting something.
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Thank you for the "Reality is a playground" bit of inspiration. I have thought on this before and wondered why my fun always seemed to get cut short just when I was getting warmed up. Only a few days ago, it occurred to me that one of the overarching values in my lifetime has been that of "obligation".

I'm really bored with this value. It has affected me now for over half a century. I want to trade it in for something else.
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What would you like to trade 'er in for?
 Quoting: Chaol

After much introspection on this matter, I see how I am the one who soaked my perspective with the value of "obligation". I see the power of this ability, so I am reviewing my options more carefully.

A value that has been quietly becoming more relative is that of a nonchalant type of defiance. A sort of civil disobedience that also applies to my private life. It is just below the surface, so to speak, and I may give it a fuller rein. Just to see where it takes me.
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I don't mind the Genius taking a thousand years to investigate an idea. This suits me. But, why does it present such a blockage in learning neuronics? As much time and effort as I have expended in studying neuronics, I could be speaking Mandarin by now instead. Has my Genius no prior experience with neuronics?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194528

It's the building block of perspective, so your Genius is quite familiar with it. (It doesn't call it neuronics of course, but the fundamentals are the same.)

Some of us could spend an awfully long time figuring out how our perspective works.

There's no rule-of-thumb, time ways.

What is it that you really don't get? Perhaps I can help.
 Quoting: Chaol


With your assurance that my Genius IS familiar with these fundamentals, then perhaps my best course of action is to communicate better with It. In fact, as I began listing my questions - once again and infinitum ad nauseum - responsive ideas began flooding into my awareness.

I much appreciate your generous offer to repeat in yet another way what you have already told us over and over again. May I please take a rain check to use when I encounter a more significant question, other than my usual "aargh!"? You have already shown too much patience in addressing the "aarghs!"
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I came across this video on youtube and it reminded me of Chaol's posts. Its about a two dimensional being who becomes aware of a third. The animation is simple, but its message is quite transcendental. Take a look and enjoy.
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Somewhere in this thread, I shared about a dream and that I was told Africa is in a different time-line.

Tonight, I remembered something I read that Alice Bailey said about Africa and looked for it to read it again. Here it is and I don't really know why I'm posting this.


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"Bailey considered the indigenous people of Africa to be in the "embryonic stage" of evolutionary development, and wrote that, "Behind the many separative religious cults of that dark land, there emerges a fundamental and pure mysticism, ranging all the way from nature worship and a primitive animism to a deep occult knowledge and an esoteric understanding which may some day make Africa the seat of the purest form of occult teaching and living."

She said that "Right human relations must be firmly established between the emerging Negro empire and the rest of the world; the new ideals and the new world trends must be fostered in the receptive Negro consciousness and in this way darkest Africa will become a radiant center of light, ready for self-government and expressing true freedom."
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Chaol, somewhere in these threads you asked, "What is the New Age?" I think that some of us would tell you that it is what you've described here. Some of us have anticipated just such a scenario.
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Yes, I've called it a cosmic event (others have too). What the result of it will be is another question though. There are as many ideas on that as there are people I suppose.

This brings up another question I've meant to ask you Chaol. Are there earth changes (such as we are having here) happening in your world?

Thanks
 Quoting: Unit3

Yes. But no other comments on this. It is 2013 after all.
 Quoting: Chaol

Thanks and fair enough. But, I would like to ask why you keep saying it's 2013. You must be expecting something.
 Quoting: Unit3

No, nothing at all. Just keeping track of time :)
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/snips/

I tell you what, Chaol. If I could write something like you did in the Great Minds thread (we call it the Tao of Chaol), I'd be very, very happy. To me, you are more evolved than I am. And actually, this is what motivates me. I'm messing with Genius maps to learn how things work but I really want to have the awareness (or whatever you want to call it) that you do....or at least closer, heh!
 Quoting: Unit3

But I'm just a value in your perspective, so I hold that it's impossible ;)

I'm afraid doing nothing would bore me no end.

As far as my own logic lasting a lifetime, I assume all physicality is considered one lifetime (including the death experience.)? Which reminds me, I've been meaning to ask if in your world, do you talk about reincarnation and remembering "past lives"?
 Quoting: Unit3

No, nothing about that.

I"m curious about the statement I put in bold up above. ["there are vast aspects of your current reality that are not meant for exploration at this time"] How do you know there are aspects not meant for exploration at this time and how is it decided it's not meant? This is intriguing to me.

Thanks
 Quoting: Unit3


...because those aspects are far from relativity in perspective :)

an other time, I suppose
 Quoting: Chaol




Now I'm really confused. It seems to me since you're a value in my perspective, then it's possible??????? Iow, your Tao is becoming more relevant to my perperspective.


Is this a correct statement? A lifetime is what is authored NOW.


I see. So those aspects will be explored once they are relative. (which right now, looks a long time off)

Are they relative to your perspective? It seems they would have to be otherwise, how would you know about them?
 Quoting: Unit3

I was suggesting that it is impossible that I am more evolved than you because I am a value in your perspective.

I'll have to think about "A lifetime is what is authored NOW." some more. It's not clear to me.

Yes, "...those aspects will be explored once they are relative...". It's a general statement and applies to anything. There are things that are in your direct experience and things that are in your indirect experience.

But those things (that aren't relative) don't really matter.
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Thank you for the "Reality is a playground" bit of inspiration. I have thought on this before and wondered why my fun always seemed to get cut short just when I was getting warmed up. Only a few days ago, it occurred to me that one of the overarching values in my lifetime has been that of "obligation".

I'm really bored with this value. It has affected me now for over half a century. I want to trade it in for something else.
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What would you like to trade 'er in for?
 Quoting: Chaol

After much introspection on this matter, I see how I am the one who soaked my perspective with the value of "obligation". I see the power of this ability, so I am reviewing my options more carefully.

A value that has been quietly becoming more relative is that of a nonchalant type of defiance. A sort of civil disobedience that also applies to my private life. It is just below the surface, so to speak, and I may give it a fuller rein. Just to see where it takes me.
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Power to the peep-hole (to an approaching reality)!
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I don't mind the Genius taking a thousand years to investigate an idea. This suits me. But, why does it present such a blockage in learning neuronics? As much time and effort as I have expended in studying neuronics, I could be speaking Mandarin by now instead. Has my Genius no prior experience with neuronics?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194528

It's the building block of perspective, so your Genius is quite familiar with it. (It doesn't call it neuronics of course, but the fundamentals are the same.)

Some of us could spend an awfully long time figuring out how our perspective works.

There's no rule-of-thumb, time ways.

What is it that you really don't get? Perhaps I can help.
 Quoting: Chaol


With your assurance that my Genius IS familiar with these fundamentals, then perhaps my best course of action is to communicate better with It. In fact, as I began listing my questions - once again and infinitum ad nauseum - responsive ideas began flooding into my awareness.

I much appreciate your generous offer to repeat in yet another way what you have already told us over and over again. May I please take a rain check to use when I encounter a more significant question, other than my usual "aargh!"? You have already shown too much patience in addressing the "aarghs!"
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Of course :)

Practice thinking out of your body. We are quite used to approaching things with our own two feet we forget that we don't need them.
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I came across this video on youtube and it reminded me of Chaol's posts. Its about a two dimensional being who becomes aware of a third. The animation is simple, but its message is quite transcendental. Take a look and enjoy.

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Thanks for the video. There is also
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"Practice thinking outside of your body". This advice is much appreciated. Will do!

Just minutes ago, I discovered fresh information that has been added to the website at ecsys.org. I missed this earlier, but am now sitting here with some printouts to study. There may be even more clarification within these pages, so Thank You for working on the website.

I have a success story to tell, stemming from the mental high-speed download I received the other night after complaining about my deficencies in grasping the Ec language.

Yesterday, on Saturday afternoon, I wanted to take a nap. However, somebody in the neighborhhood was playing music through sub-woofers and there was an annoying boom-boom-boom beat that kept me from sleeping comfortably. I remembered what I learned from the "download", applied a neuronicon that I had worked with previously, and the boom-boom-boom stopped immediately! And I mean that it quit mid-boom! I was totally awed by this. It was nothing short of miraculous.

I know how I did this and I know how to do it again. Seeing it work so dramatically sure does give me the conviction and the confidence that I needed.

Just wanted you to know that my frustration factor has fallen to near-zero, and I feel so much more earnest now.
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"Practice thinking outside of your body". This advice is much appreciated. Will do!

Just minutes ago, I discovered fresh information that has been added to the website at ecsys.org. I missed this earlier, but am now sitting here with some printouts to study. There may be even more clarification within these pages, so Thank You for working on the website.

I have a success story to tell, stemming from the mental high-speed download I received the other night after complaining about my deficencies in grasping the Ec language.

Yesterday, on Saturday afternoon, I wanted to take a nap. However, somebody in the neighborhhood was playing music through sub-woofers and there was an annoying boom-boom-boom beat that kept me from sleeping comfortably. I remembered what I learned from the "download", applied a neuronicon that I had worked with previously, and the boom-boom-boom stopped immediately! And I mean that it quit mid-boom! I was totally awed by this. It was nothing short of miraculous.

I know how I did this and I know how to do it again. Seeing it work so dramatically sure does give me the conviction and the confidence that I needed.

Just wanted you to know that my frustration factor has fallen to near-zero, and I feel so much more earnest now.
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I'm going to practice outside my body too. Very interesting and thanks for bringing this to light. Congrats on the boom-boom sound experience. It is quite exciting, isn't it?
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Thank you, Unit3. You're a sweetie.

What excites me the most is the way a truckload of information got dumped into my mind when I least expected it. A bunch of stray pieces of data coalesced into a heap of associations that I understood and could actually use.
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Thank you, Unit3. You're a sweetie.

What excites me the most is the way a truckload of information got dumped into my mind when I least expected it. A bunch of stray pieces of data coalesced into a heap of associations that I understood and could actually use.
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Awwww. Tanks!

Yes, I've heard of that kind of download happening. I'm very happy for you. Keep us posted, ok?

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/snips/

I tell you what, Chaol. If I could write something like you did in the Great Minds thread (we call it the Tao of Chaol), I'd be very, very happy. To me, you are more evolved than I am. And actually, this is what motivates me. I'm messing with Genius maps to learn how things work but I really want to have the awareness (or whatever you want to call it) that you do....or at least closer, heh!
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But I'm just a value in your perspective, so I hold that it's impossible ;)

I'm afraid doing nothing would bore me no end.

As far as my own logic lasting a lifetime, I assume all physicality is considered one lifetime (including the death experience.)? Which reminds me, I've been meaning to ask if in your world, do you talk about reincarnation and remembering "past lives"?
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No, nothing about that.

I"m curious about the statement I put in bold up above. ["there are vast aspects of your current reality that are not meant for exploration at this time"] How do you know there are aspects not meant for exploration at this time and how is it decided it's not meant? This is intriguing to me.

Thanks
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...because those aspects are far from relativity in perspective :)

an other time, I suppose
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Now I'm really confused. It seems to me since you're a value in my perspective, then it's possible??????? Iow, your Tao is becoming more relevant to my perperspective.


Is this a correct statement? A lifetime is what is authored NOW.


I see. So those aspects will be explored once they are relative. (which right now, looks a long time off)

Are they relative to your perspective? It seems they would have to be otherwise, how would you know about them?
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I was suggesting that it is impossible that I am more evolved than you because I am a value in your perspective.

I'll have to think about "A lifetime is what is authored NOW." some more. It's not clear to me.

Yes, "...those aspects will be explored once they are relative...". It's a general statement and applies to anything. There are things that are in your direct experience and things that are in your indirect experience.

But those things (that aren't relative) don't really matter.
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Aha! Well, okay. I can tell you this much. I am very glad you are a value in my perspective. hf

What I mean about the lifetime NOW is that we can only author NOW so there is only one lifetime. Is this what you meant?

Thanks for the explanation on those things I will explore later. It caught my attention, for sure.

Thank you. You are appreciated!
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"Practice thinking outside of your body". This advice is much appreciated. Will do!

Just minutes ago, I discovered fresh information that has been added to the website at ecsys.org. I missed this earlier, but am now sitting here with some printouts to study. There may be even more clarification within these pages, so Thank You for working on the website.

I have a success story to tell, stemming from the mental high-speed download I received the other night after complaining about my deficencies in grasping the Ec language.

Yesterday, on Saturday afternoon, I wanted to take a nap. However, somebody in the neighborhhood was playing music through sub-woofers and there was an annoying boom-boom-boom beat that kept me from sleeping comfortably. I remembered what I learned from the "download", applied a neuronicon that I had worked with previously, and the boom-boom-boom stopped immediately! And I mean that it quit mid-boom! I was totally awed by this. It was nothing short of miraculous.

I know how I did this and I know how to do it again. Seeing it work so dramatically sure does give me the conviction and the confidence that I needed.

Just wanted you to know that my frustration factor has fallen to near-zero, and I feel so much more earnest now.
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Oh, man! I'm on a roll!

This morning, Monday, I caught myself getting ticked-off over a problem that has bothered me for the past several years. I recognized that it was the same old geometry of a relationship that was affecting me. I thought to myself that I've had enough of this. So, I conjured up a feeling that I preferred - a more desireable state of affairs - wrote an EC string for it, then repeated the sounds while seeing the neuronicons representing the state that I want to perceive.

Later in the afternoon, my husband gave me a bit of good news that relieved me of a dreaded burden. It was not until a couple hours later that I realized that this news was a perfect fit for my new perception!

I am just so utterly amazed at how EASY this is! I don't know why I've been floundering around for the past three-plus years.
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"Practice thinking outside of your body". This advice is much appreciated. Will do!

Just minutes ago, I discovered fresh information that has been added to the website at ecsys.org. I missed this earlier, but am now sitting here with some printouts to study. There may be even more clarification within these pages, so Thank You for working on the website.

I have a success story to tell, stemming from the mental high-speed download I received the other night after complaining about my deficencies in grasping the Ec language.

Yesterday, on Saturday afternoon, I wanted to take a nap. However, somebody in the neighborhhood was playing music through sub-woofers and there was an annoying boom-boom-boom beat that kept me from sleeping comfortably. I remembered what I learned from the "download", applied a neuronicon that I had worked with previously, and the boom-boom-boom stopped immediately! And I mean that it quit mid-boom! I was totally awed by this. It was nothing short of miraculous.

I know how I did this and I know how to do it again. Seeing it work so dramatically sure does give me the conviction and the confidence that I needed.

Just wanted you to know that my frustration factor has fallen to near-zero, and I feel so much more earnest now.
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Oh, man! I'm on a roll!

This morning, Monday, I caught myself getting ticked-off over a problem that has bothered me for the past several years. I recognized that it was the same old geometry of a relationship that was affecting me. I thought to myself that I've had enough of this. So, I conjured up a feeling that I preferred - a more desireable state of affairs - wrote an EC string for it, then repeated the sounds while seeing the neuronicons representing the state that I want to perceive.

Later in the afternoon, my husband gave me a bit of good news that relieved me of a dreaded burden. It was not until a couple hours later that I realized that this news was a perfect fit for my new perception!

I am just so utterly amazed at how EASY this is! I don't know why I've been floundering around for the past three-plus years.
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You must be a natural with this.

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