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Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality

 
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Update on my experience from the shared dream event. I believe there was some kind of healing that took place during that dream.

I have noticed I don't have as many food sensitivities since then. banana2

Remember I said I "ate" through a membrane in that dream? My stomach felt real good while that was happening. 1dunno1

Now, I'm eating things I didn't think I could. WhooHOoo!
 Quoting: Unit3


Could be any number of reasons, from the supergalactic earthquake to a random change in your body, and, yes, how the dream (or thoughts of it) affected you.

But I'm glad you can eat more of what you like, no matter how it happened :)

Though sometimes food allergies or reactions can protect us.
 Quoting: Chaol




Interesting. What supergalatic earthquake? And do you know the date when it happened?

And yes, this particular allergy was protecting me. But, I no longer need it as far as I can tell.

Since I know the mind makes sense of things with whatever works as a likely scenario, I'll just say a change has taken place that I am enjoying, LOL!
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Update on my experience from the shared dream event. I believe there was some kind of healing that took place during that dream.

I have noticed I don't have as many food sensitivities since then. banana2

Remember I said I "ate" through a membrane in that dream? My stomach felt real good while that was happening. 1dunno1

Now, I'm eating things I didn't think I could. WhooHOoo!
 Quoting: Unit3


Could be any number of reasons, from the supergalactic earthquake to a random change in your body, and, yes, how the dream (or thoughts of it) affected you.

But I'm glad you can eat more of what you like, no matter how it happened :)

Though sometimes food allergies or reactions can protect us.
 Quoting: Chaol


Interesting. What supergalatic earthquake? And do you know the date when it happened?

And yes, this particular allergy was protecting me. But, I no longer need it as far as I can tell.

Since I know the mind makes sense of things with whatever works as a likely scenario, I'll just say a change has taken place that I am enjoying, LOL!
 Quoting: Unit3


good to hear :)

I've pasted this video previously (about the 'earthquake' or superwave)



nothing to be afraid of. It's just part of the physical change I have been talking about, and also the last big nexus point that has not yet been expressed. It happened several thousand years ago (though it's also a value in the current perspective).
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Update on my experience from the shared dream event. I believe there was some kind of healing that took place during that dream.

I have noticed I don't have as many food sensitivities since then. banana2

Remember I said I "ate" through a membrane in that dream? My stomach felt real good while that was happening. 1dunno1

Now, I'm eating things I didn't think I could. WhooHOoo!
 Quoting: Unit3


Could be any number of reasons, from the supergalactic earthquake to a random change in your body, and, yes, how the dream (or thoughts of it) affected you.

But I'm glad you can eat more of what you like, no matter how it happened :)

Though sometimes food allergies or reactions can protect us.
 Quoting: Chaol


Interesting. What supergalatic earthquake? And do you know the date when it happened?

And yes, this particular allergy was protecting me. But, I no longer need it as far as I can tell.

Since I know the mind makes sense of things with whatever works as a likely scenario, I'll just say a change has taken place that I am enjoying, LOL!
 Quoting: Unit3


good to hear :)

I've pasted this video previously (about the 'earthquake' or superwave)

[link to www.youtube.com]

nothing to be afraid of. It's just part of the physical change I have been talking about, and also the last big nexus point that has not yet been expressed. It happened several thousand years ago (though it's also a value in the current perspective).
 Quoting: Chaol




Very interesting. I'll watch this video when I get back. I'm just walking out the door.

So, can we tie our Genius plans to this nexus? Do we have an approximation as to a date when it will be expressed?

Thanks.

Btw, I hadn't even thought of being afraid until you mentioned it, LOL! 1rof1

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[link to youtu.be]

Ah yes, I remember seeing this video before. At that time, I believed "God" was taking care of things so I didn't worry about it.

Now, I see myself as god (with the possibility that I am a thought inside God's head but He is beyond my perception, so no worries, LOL!) but anyway, here's my questions so far:

1) Humanity is moving away from physicality, so how might this change the outcome of what this scientist is saying?

2) And what is physical? The cosmos, some of it (10%, same as us?), some of the planets or what exactly? How much is your Earth physical? Are scientists' from your world working on this?

3) What are we, as god, able to do about it? I assume we can hitch a Genius to this?

4) Do you trust this scientist's perceptions? He doesn't believe in black holes.

5) I trust you have a reason for posting this video. Are you ready to share why?

Thanks. I look forward to your reply.
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Which place is reserved for us Chaol? just your Tree area, or the Sphinx area also?
 Quoting: LeKing


It's the same area.

Reserved for my friends here on this forum. Wouldn't you know, many of us are there quite often.
 Quoting: Chaol


I know I have been there almost every night recently (the past week or so) but upon waking my waking mind tells it me differently.

My waking mind relates my time in the AU as a school/lesson type experience. The people I meet in the AU my mind matches to people I went to school with, really weird, but I heard the mind cant create new faces so it reuses old ones, or is that BS?

I could probably even describe some posters here, or at least give basic descriptions. Don't worry though, I won't lol, not you though Chaol, I perceive the teacher in different ways.

I spoke to a new person called Lee?, short, Caucasian, brown hair, I remember talking to you about your new job, I remember saying how its good now, how you will have more money to go out and get new things, it could of been your first job?

But maybe others will realise what's happening now if people are having similar experiences.

I took the word sumaria from my time at AU the other day, I also rekindled my love for electronics which has always been my passion anyway really.

My experience the first few times of consciously following the portals to the "alternate universe' was aided by natural means we will say, but I know you wont speak about that topic at all Chaol.

Long post, but ive been busy just wanted to keep the thread going!
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I haven't read all of the thread where Zulkar is posting, but I asked him/her what comprises visualization. I asked a bunch of questions of Zulkar and am now waiting for answers.

I don't intend to study both Zulkar and Chaol without an understanding of how I am to do so. Do we integrate the information both are providing or what?

I agree with the rest of your ideas, LeKing, and esp. the part about reading that whole thread. I'm catching up as fast I can, LOL! All Chaol's threads are worth reading.

I hadn't thought of our structured dream being a safe space in the astral but it sure makes sense. I had already felt safe about it so this just confirms it a little more for me. Thanks. Before this, I couldn't see the point of entering the astral. It is a mess.

I think I'll post this link in the more active thread and see if we can't get Chaol over here.
 Quoting: Unit3


I agree with Chaol that it would be unfair for newcomers to confuse the Zulkar material. But some of his teachings resonate with me.

You mentioned Tabula Rasa the other day, did you read the wikipedia page for the mmorpg of the same name?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

There is obviously more too it, but you will see what im saying, if not now then deffinately after reading The return of the gods thread.

Or maybe you already knew and I'm wrongly assuming you didn't lol apologies if so.


All of the beings you meet are you, still a part of your perspective.

But the place I have reserved for us is a place where harm is irrelevant. Unless you had a bad burrito or something lol
 Quoting: Chaol

Which place is reserved for us Chaol? just your Tree area, or the Sphinx area also?
 Quoting: LeKing



I read part of the wikipedia page but I'm at a loss as to how it connects with the return of the gods thread, unless you feel Chaol and Zulkar are the return? I feel the return of the gods is all of us returning to our true nature.

I try to keep from superimposing my beliefs on anything I am studying. Rather, I try to build a foundation of understanding to what I already feel I know. So, it's not a complete Tabula Rasa but I am always willing to be wrong...so I can find out how to be right, LOL!

Thanks
 Quoting: Unit3


Logos, I feel VERY guided to say only that one word, but I felt rude so had to extend it out abit. It really was all you needed though. I updated my post on page 48 also.

Thanks!

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I haven't read all of the thread where Zulkar is posting, but I asked him/her what comprises visualization. I asked a bunch of questions of Zulkar and am now waiting for answers.

I don't intend to study both Zulkar and Chaol without an understanding of how I am to do so. Do we integrate the information both are providing or what?

I agree with the rest of your ideas, LeKing, and esp. the part about reading that whole thread. I'm catching up as fast I can, LOL! All Chaol's threads are worth reading.

I hadn't thought of our structured dream being a safe space in the astral but it sure makes sense. I had already felt safe about it so this just confirms it a little more for me. Thanks. Before this, I couldn't see the point of entering the astral. It is a mess.

I think I'll post this link in the more active thread and see if we can't get Chaol over here.
 Quoting: Unit3


I agree with Chaol that it would be unfair for newcomers to confuse the Zulkar material. But some of his teachings resonate with me.

You mentioned Tabula Rasa the other day, did you read the wikipedia page for the mmorpg of the same name?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

There is obviously more too it, but you will see what im saying, if not now then deffinately after reading The return of the gods thread.

Or maybe you already knew and I'm wrongly assuming you didn't lol apologies if so.


All of the beings you meet are you, still a part of your perspective.

But the place I have reserved for us is a place where harm is irrelevant. Unless you had a bad burrito or something lol
 Quoting: Chaol

Which place is reserved for us Chaol? just your Tree area, or the Sphinx area also?
 Quoting: LeKing



I read part of the wikipedia page but I'm at a loss as to how it connects with the return of the gods thread, unless you feel Chaol and Zulkar are the return? I feel the return of the gods is all of us returning to our true nature.

I try to keep from superimposing my beliefs on anything I am studying. Rather, I try to build a foundation of understanding to what I already feel I know. So, it's not a complete Tabula Rasa but I am always willing to be wrong...so I can find out how to be right, LOL!

Thanks
 Quoting: Unit3


Logos, I feel VERY guided to say only that one word, but I felt rude so had to extend it out abit. It really was all you needed though. I updated my post on page 48 also.

Thanks!
 Quoting: LeKing




I think I understand now. Thanks.

I went back to that thread. I didn't realize s/he didn't always have the user name for all his/her postings and I agree, it was very confusing.

What is also strange to me is why would anyone start teaching something else on somebody else's thread. That's why I asked were we supposed to integrate both teachings or what. So, there is a loss of credibility to me....at least until I get an explanation.

Glad you've been there nightly in the library. How exciting. I'm still trying.
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Thanks, but it sounds a bit complicated.

A lines or two of Ec would suit me better, I suppose.

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English is a poor slow language in my opinion.

If I'm honest Chaol, it is one of my major flaws, not being able to explain something properly, 'they' use the term 'dyslexia' to describe the problem, I have my own opinions though, but I wont go too far off the thread subject.

You said with an understanding of neuronics anything was possible.

But I feel the need to ask if you could learn and speak fluently in any currently spoken language from around this earth instantly with more advanced uses?

Im not sure if you have seen the movie The Matrix

But the main guy is able to "Jack In" and then "programs" be loaded into the brain.

In the movie he is able to instantly learn all sorts of things.

Im obviously talking VERY advanced uses here.

Also we can move this to the neuronics thread if you prefer?

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Could be any number of reasons, from the supergalactic earthquake to a random change in your body, and, yes, how the dream (or thoughts of it) affected you.

But I'm glad you can eat more of what you like, no matter how it happened :)

Though sometimes food allergies or reactions can protect us.
 Quoting: Chaol


Interesting. What supergalatic earthquake? And do you know the date when it happened?

And yes, this particular allergy was protecting me. But, I no longer need it as far as I can tell.

Since I know the mind makes sense of things with whatever works as a likely scenario, I'll just say a change has taken place that I am enjoying, LOL!
 Quoting: Unit3


good to hear :)

I've pasted this video previously (about the 'earthquake' or superwave)

[link to www.youtube.com]

nothing to be afraid of. It's just part of the physical change I have been talking about, and also the last big nexus point that has not yet been expressed. It happened several thousand years ago (though it's also a value in the current perspective).
 Quoting: Chaol


Very interesting. I'll watch this video when I get back. I'm just walking out the door.

So, can we tie our Genius plans to this nexus? Do we have an approximation as to a date when it will be expressed?

Thanks.
 Quoting: Unit3


This nexus is quite different from the usual. It is (going to be) expressed over a period of about 14 years, starting in about May of this year.

Btw, I hadn't even thought of being afraid until you mentioned it, LOL! 1rof1
 Quoting: Unit3


For the benefit of the many others reading this forum, then :)
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Ah yes, I remember seeing this video before. At that time, I believed "God" was taking care of things so I didn't worry about it.

Now, I see myself as god (with the possibility that I am a thought inside God's head but He is beyond my perception, so no worries, LOL!) but anyway, here's my questions so far:

1) Humanity is moving away from physicality, so how might this change the outcome of what this scientist is saying?
 Quoting: Unit3

This quake, or superwave, is part of that change.

We've moving away from a certain kind of physicality and towards an other kind.

You can say that the recipe for that change of perspective is comprised of a few things. Activity below your feet and above your head, radiation (especially from Fukushima), solar changes, and others. They make up the logical narrative for the change so that we can make sense of how it happens.

2) And what is physical? The cosmos, some of it (10%, same as us?), some of the planets or what exactly? How much is your Earth physical? Are scientists' from your world working on this?
 Quoting: Unit3

Everything that exists is physical.

100% of the cosmos, including what is referred to as dark matter.

We don't really have scientists as you think of it. But those persons that would be called scientists are working on a variety of things, much of which I haven't a clue about.

3) What are we, as god, able to do about it? I assume we can hitch a Genius to this?
 Quoting: Unit3

The question presumes that we "are god", or that there is something to do. Perhaps if it were rephrased I could respond properly :)

4) Do you trust this scientist's perceptions? He doesn't believe in black holes.
 Quoting: Unit3

There is no such thing as black holes in the way described. But for me it's more about interaction than trust. Trust is irrelevant.

However, his research is pretty accurate for this world.

5) I trust you have a reason for posting this video. Are you ready to share why?

Thanks. I look forward to your reply.
 Quoting: Unit3

Chicken. It's what's for dinner.

I've posted a number of things that are related to this change in physicality, and that's one of them. It's for the curious.

For example, knowing that the radioactive isotopes from Fukushima nuclear plants are new values in perspective:

[link to enenews.com]

Not saying that it's beneficial in all ways (I'd prefer not to have it in my body, personally, for other reasons) but we can at least have a bigger picture of what is going on.

mmmm.. chicken

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Thanks, but it sounds a bit complicated.

A lines or two of Ec would suit me better, I suppose.

 Quoting: Chaol


English is a poor slow language in my opinion.

If I'm honest Chaol, it is one of my major flaws, not being able to explain something properly, 'they' use the term 'dyslexia' to describe the problem, I have my own opinions though, but I wont go too far off the thread subject.

You said with an understanding of neuronics anything was possible.

But I feel the need to ask if you could learn and speak fluently in any currently spoken language from around this earth instantly with more advanced uses?

Im not sure if you have seen the movie The Matrix

But the main guy is able to "Jack In" and then "programs" be loaded into the brain.

In the movie he is able to instantly learn all sorts of things.

Im obviously talking VERY advanced uses here.

Also we can move this to the neuronics thread if you prefer?
 Quoting: LeKing


What you're referring to is far from advanced. But is there a purpose to learning something instantly?
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Interesting. What supergalatic earthquake? And do you know the date when it happened?

And yes, this particular allergy was protecting me. But, I no longer need it as far as I can tell.

Since I know the mind makes sense of things with whatever works as a likely scenario, I'll just say a change has taken place that I am enjoying, LOL!
 Quoting: Unit3


good to hear :)

I've pasted this video previously (about the 'earthquake' or superwave)

[link to www.youtube.com]

nothing to be afraid of. It's just part of the physical change I have been talking about, and also the last big nexus point that has not yet been expressed. It happened several thousand years ago (though it's also a value in the current perspective).
 Quoting: Chaol


Very interesting. I'll watch this video when I get back. I'm just walking out the door.

So, can we tie our Genius plans to this nexus? Do we have an approximation as to a date when it will be expressed?

Thanks.
 Quoting: Unit3


This nexus is quite different from the usual. It is (going to be) expressed over a period of about 14 years, starting in about May of this year.

Btw, I hadn't even thought of being afraid until you mentioned it, LOL! 1rof1
 Quoting: Unit3


For the benefit of the many others reading this forum, then :)
 Quoting: Chaol



What's the benefit of being afraid of it? And shall we connect our Genius maps to this nexus?
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Ah yes, I remember seeing this video before. At that time, I believed "God" was taking care of things so I didn't worry about it.

Now, I see myself as god (with the possibility that I am a thought inside God's head but He is beyond my perception, so no worries, LOL!) but anyway, here's my questions so far:

1) Humanity is moving away from physicality, so how might this change the outcome of what this scientist is saying?
 Quoting: Unit3

This quake, or superwave, is part of that change.

We've moving away from a certain kind of physicality and towards an other kind.

You can say that the recipe for that change of perspective is comprised of a few things. Activity below your feet and above your head, radiation (especially from Fukushima), solar changes, and others. They make up the logical narrative for the change so that we can make sense of how it happens.

2) And what is physical? The cosmos, some of it (10%, same as us?), some of the planets or what exactly? How much is your Earth physical? Are scientists' from your world working on this?
 Quoting: Unit3

Everything that exists is physical.

100% of the cosmos, including what is referred to as dark matter.

We don't really have scientists as you think of it. But those persons that would be called scientists are working on a variety of things, much of which I haven't a clue about.

3) What are we, as god, able to do about it? I assume we can hitch a Genius to this?
 Quoting: Unit3

The question presumes that we "are god", or that there is something to do. Perhaps if it were rephrased I could respond properly :)

4) Do you trust this scientist's perceptions? He doesn't believe in black holes.
 Quoting: Unit3

There is no such thing as black holes in the way described. But for me it's more about interaction than trust. Trust is irrelevant.

However, his research is pretty accurate for this world.

5) I trust you have a reason for posting this video. Are you ready to share why?

Thanks. I look forward to your reply.
 Quoting: Unit3

Chicken. It's what's for dinner.

I've posted a number of things that are related to this change in physicality, and that's one of them. It's for the curious.

For example, knowing that the radioactive isotopes from Fukushima nuclear plants are new values in perspective:

[link to enenews.com]

Not saying that it's beneficial in all ways (I'd prefer not to have it in my body, personally, for other reasons) but we can at least have a bigger picture of what is going on.

mmmm.. chicken
 Quoting: Chaol




LOL, you're a pescetarian, how do you know what chicken tastes like, heh! j/k

I didn't realize there are different kinds of physicality. So I assume we here, in this world, are moving from one type of physicality to another. That's why our 2 worlds are "merged at every level" without cataclysmic damage (so to speak) to either world?

Chaol said: The question presumes that we "are god", or that there is something to do. Perhaps if it were rephrased I could respond properly :)

1) I see myself (and everyone) as god because all I (and anyone else) perceive is an aspect of myself. In this way, the world is mine to change or accept or whatever. And actually, for years, I have seen I affect the world. (So have others I know) so it became obvious all I see is my perspective.

Anywway, back to the galatic event, either I need to accept that I can experience some kind of galatic cataclysmic event or prepare for one. So yes, I see there is something "to do." Does your response indicate that you see there is nothing to do? And if not, why?

2) Please tell me again why trust is irrelevant. I know why interaction is more relevant because that's how we are able to perceive things. I need a repeat on irrelevance. I guess I'm not quite catching it.

3) What do you mean "personally, for other reasons?" when talking about radioactivity. I got a little lost with what you mean. (I put it in bold, above if you want to see what you said again.)

I understand not wanting radioactivity in the body but I don't think it's possible to escape it. It's going to be in water and air for one thing.

Thanks

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good to hear :)

I've pasted this video previously (about the 'earthquake' or superwave)

[link to www.youtube.com]

nothing to be afraid of. It's just part of the physical change I have been talking about, and also the last big nexus point that has not yet been expressed. It happened several thousand years ago (though it's also a value in the current perspective).
 Quoting: Chaol


Very interesting. I'll watch this video when I get back. I'm just walking out the door.

So, can we tie our Genius plans to this nexus? Do we have an approximation as to a date when it will be expressed?

Thanks.
 Quoting: Unit3


This nexus is quite different from the usual. It is (going to be) expressed over a period of about 14 years, starting in about May of this year.

Btw, I hadn't even thought of being afraid until you mentioned it, LOL! 1rof1
 Quoting: Unit3


For the benefit of the many others reading this forum, then :)
 Quoting: Chaol



What's the benefit of being afraid of it? And shall we connect our Genius maps to this nexus?
 Quoting: Unit3


The information is for the benefit of others.

I would not suggest using this nexus with your Genius map. It's quite peculiar.
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Your use of the word "peculiar" with regard to the "nexus" is peculiar.
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LOL, you're a pescetarian, how do you know what chicken tastes like, heh! j/k
 Quoting: Unit3


I've had plenty of chicken in my life :) But yes, I eat only freshwater fish and veggies :)

I didn't realize there are different kinds of physicality. So I assume we here, in this world, are moving from one type of physicality to another. That's why our 2 worlds are "merged at every level" without cataclysmic damage (so to speak) to either world?
 Quoting: Unit3


More of a transition.

Where do you get the quote, "merged at every level" from?

There would be no cataclysmic damage from merging. That's impossible. Two become 1, in a way.

1) I see myself (and everyone) as god because all I (and anyone else) perceive is an aspect of myself. In this way, the world is mine to change or accept or whatever. And actually, for years, I have seen I affect the world. (So have others I know) so it became obvious all I see is my perspective.

Anywway, back to the galatic event, either I need to accept that I can experience some kind of galatic cataclysmic event or prepare for one. So yes, I see there is something "to do." Does your response indicate that you see there is nothing to do? And if not, why?
 Quoting: Unit3


It is happening now, and in some ways it has all ready happened. So, no, there is nothing more to do.

It is our natural response to do something. But aren't we doing something right now? We all ways want to do "something else" but wouldn't what you're doing right now be something else to something else?

2) Please tell me again why trust is irrelevant. I know why interaction is more relevant because that's how we are able to perceive things. I need a repeat on irrelevance. I guess I'm not quite catching it.
 Quoting: Unit3


You can only trust or not trust yourself (your perspective). That's why it's irrelevant.

By 'irrelevant' I just mean the the common definition.

3) What do you mean "personally, for other reasons?" when talking about radioactivity. I got a little lost with what you mean. (I put it in bold, above if you want to see what you said again.)

I understand not wanting radioactivity in the body but I don't think it's possible to escape it. It's going to be in water and air for one thing.

Thanks
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Yes. And by this time it's in pretty much everything you eat, drink, in the air, and more. It's part of the change of physical perspective, you could say.

I don't need to participate in the specific physical change that most of us are participating in on this Earth, so the experience for me is non-experience.
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Your use of the word "peculiar" with regard to the "nexus" is peculiar.
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I mean the later use rather than the classical use of the word.

Otherwise known as $^@$% high strangeness.

I call it that because I am unable to 'calculate' it, though I'm sure someone else with more advanced skills than I would find it easier.

Usually nexus points change past/present/future in a way appropriate to its 'size' but this one seems to change the entire universe.
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LOL, you're a pescetarian, how do you know what chicken tastes like, heh! j/k
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I've had plenty of chicken in my life :) But yes, I eat only freshwater fish and veggies :)

I didn't realize there are different kinds of physicality. So I assume we here, in this world, are moving from one type of physicality to another. That's why our 2 worlds are "merged at every level" without cataclysmic damage (so to speak) to either world?
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More of a transition.

Where do you get the quote, "merged at every level" from?

There would be no cataclysmic damage from merging. That's impossible. Two become 1, in a way.

1) I see myself (and everyone) as god because all I (and anyone else) perceive is an aspect of myself. In this way, the world is mine to change or accept or whatever. And actually, for years, I have seen I affect the world. (So have others I know) so it became obvious all I see is my perspective.

Anywway, back to the galatic event, either I need to accept that I can experience some kind of galatic cataclysmic event or prepare for one. So yes, I see there is something "to do." Does your response indicate that you see there is nothing to do? And if not, why?
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It is happening now, and in some ways it has all ready happened. So, no, there is nothing more to do.

It is our natural response to do something. But aren't we doing something right now? We all ways want to do "something else" but wouldn't what you're doing right now be something else to something else?

2) Please tell me again why trust is irrelevant. I know why interaction is more relevant because that's how we are able to perceive things. I need a repeat on irrelevance. I guess I'm not quite catching it.
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You can only trust or not trust yourself (your perspective). That's why it's irrelevant.

By 'irrelevant' I just mean the the common definition.

3) What do you mean "personally, for other reasons?" when talking about radioactivity. I got a little lost with what you mean. (I put it in bold, above if you want to see what you said again.)

I understand not wanting radioactivity in the body but I don't think it's possible to escape it. It's going to be in water and air for one thing.

Thanks
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Yes. And by this time it's in pretty much everything you eat, drink, in the air, and more. It's part of the change of physical perspective, you could say.

I don't need to participate in the specific physical change that most of us are participating in on this Earth, so the experience for me is non-experience.
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Add some toasted, sourdough, boule bread and olive oil with balsmic vinegar for dipping...and you have a good meal there. Well, that is, if your fish is wild-caught and not farm-raised! If it's farm-raised, I wouldn't feed it to a dog. ;o(

Here's where I got the quote from and I am a little off in remembering it. I apologize. You actually said: "Things are merging at every level."
Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 254)
Someone else said, in one of the threads, that we merged in July. (I hope I don't have to go find the post. They told me that while you were gone.)

The main thing I wanted to clarify is how much impact the merging is having on the physical. I guess not much, at least in a physical way, which I find interesting. To me, that says your world is not physical in the way my world is.

Yes, you're correct. We are doing something right now and will be doing something else next. I just thought since you tie things to nexus points, we could take advantage of this one. Can you tell me how you have determined this one is peculiar? (I'm assuming you see things in the spiritual (aka astral) but I don't believe I've ever heard you use any of these terms.) And, when it comes to you, I don't want to assume anything. (That's a complement, btw!)

So you are saying the radioactivity is a non-experience for you because you already embody the changes it is making for the rest of us? How is it a non-experience to you if you don't want to ingest anything that's exposed to radioactivity?

Thanks

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Add some toasted, sourdough, boule bread and olive oil with balsmic vinegar for dipping...and you have a good meal there. Well, that is, if your fish is wild-caught and not farm-raised! If it's farm-raised, I wouldn't feed it to a dog. ;o(
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Depends on what's in water, I suppose.

Here's where I got the quote from and I am a little off in remembering it. I apologize. You actually said: "Things are merging at every level."
Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 254)
Someone else said, in one of the threads, that we merged in July. (I hope I don't have to go find the post. They told me that while you were gone.)

The main thing I wanted to clarify is how much impact the merging is having on the physical. I guess not much, at least in a physical way, which I find interesting. To me, that says your world is not physical in the way my world is.

Yes, you're correct. We are doing something right now and will be doing something else next. I just thought since you tie things to nexus points, we could take advantage of this one. Can you tell me how you have determined this one is peculiar? (I'm assuming you see things in the spiritual (aka astral) but I don't believe I've ever heard you use any of these terms.) And, when it comes to you, I don't want to assume anything. (That's a complement, btw!)

So you are saying the radioactivity is a non-experience for you because you already embody the changes it is making for the rest of us? How is it a non-experience to you if you don't want to ingest anything that's exposed to radioactivity?

Thanks
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No astral or spiritual here. My brain does the calculation, you could say. It's done in a logical way with neuronics. This one is peculiar because its geometry touches the building blocks of physicality.

For the radioaction, it's a non-experience for me the same way physical birth would be a non-experience for you. You are no longer compatible with your mother's womb, though you may see persons around you being born that way.

As far as taking advantage of nexus points I would suggest being comfortable with the Genius first. There are nexus points (of all "sizes") around you. They're just measured attractive/repulsive units (sometimes misidentified as a black hole when relative to certain things in space).
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Add some toasted, sourdough, boule bread and olive oil with balsmic vinegar for dipping...and you have a good meal there. Well, that is, if your fish is wild-caught and not farm-raised! If it's farm-raised, I wouldn't feed it to a dog. ;o(
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Depends on what's in water, I suppose.

Here's where I got the quote from and I am a little off in remembering it. I apologize. You actually said: "Things are merging at every level."
Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 254)
Someone else said, in one of the threads, that we merged in July. (I hope I don't have to go find the post. They told me that while you were gone.)

The main thing I wanted to clarify is how much impact the merging is having on the physical. I guess not much, at least in a physical way, which I find interesting. To me, that says your world is not physical in the way my world is.

Yes, you're correct. We are doing something right now and will be doing something else next. I just thought since you tie things to nexus points, we could take advantage of this one. Can you tell me how you have determined this one is peculiar? (I'm assuming you see things in the spiritual (aka astral) but I don't believe I've ever heard you use any of these terms.) And, when it comes to you, I don't want to assume anything. (That's a complement, btw!)

So you are saying the radioactivity is a non-experience for you because you already embody the changes it is making for the rest of us? How is it a non-experience to you if you don't want to ingest anything that's exposed to radioactivity?

Thanks
 Quoting: Unit3


No astral or spiritual here. My brain does the calculation, you could say. It's done in a logical way with neuronics. This one is peculiar because its geometry touches the building blocks of physicality.

For the radioaction, it's a non-experience for me the same way physical birth would be a non-experience for you. You are no longer compatible with your mother's womb, though you may see persons around you being born that way.

As far as taking advantage of nexus points I would suggest being comfortable with the Genius first. There are nexus points (of all "sizes") around you. They're just measured attractive/repulsive units (sometimes misidentified as a black hole when relative to certain things in space).
 Quoting: Chaol



Yes it does depend on the water and farm-raised is nasty water.

Ah, very interesting how you calculate it. I would love to know more but I suppose that's on down the line for me. I don't even have the building blocks of the Genius yet.

The building blocks of physicality...well, that sounds close to apocalypse stuff. Of course, I can see cracks in physicality anyway. I've just had hopes the new would be more in place to take care of some of the worse of the collapse. I guess it takes a collapse for the new to be taken seriously though. Btw, what do you say the building blocks of physicality are? I just realized I'm assuming things again! ;o(

I have an interesting experience to share. Christmas dinner one year ago, everybody went nuts when dinner was ready (buffet style) and it was like a feeding frenzy...except for myself and my husband. We calmly walked through, unnoticed, and calmly got our food.

Later, my husband and I talked about it and said it could be the same in a apocalyptic type "situation." We could be at a different "level" than the others and walk through unnoticed while they are in some kind of frenzy. (At the time, we thought of it as a different vibration but now I would say we had a different perception.)

So, I have a question for you. I have come to the understanding that perception trumps everything, including location. Could perception also trump an apocalypse type situation....that impacts a broader scale than say my family Christmas dinner? For example, a national type situation or even world type situation?

Interesting comments about nexus points/black holes. (Attractive/repulsive units, hmmmmmm!) Okay, I'll try to understand the Genius first though. This sounds reasonable. Can't go to college level when in grade-school, eh?



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Add some toasted, sourdough, boule bread and olive oil with balsmic vinegar for dipping...and you have a good meal there. Well, that is, if your fish is wild-caught and not farm-raised! If it's farm-raised, I wouldn't feed it to a dog. ;o(
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Depends on what's in water, I suppose.

Here's where I got the quote from and I am a little off in remembering it. I apologize. You actually said: "Things are merging at every level."
Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 254)
Someone else said, in one of the threads, that we merged in July. (I hope I don't have to go find the post. They told me that while you were gone.)

The main thing I wanted to clarify is how much impact the merging is having on the physical. I guess not much, at least in a physical way, which I find interesting. To me, that says your world is not physical in the way my world is.

Yes, you're correct. We are doing something right now and will be doing something else next. I just thought since you tie things to nexus points, we could take advantage of this one. Can you tell me how you have determined this one is peculiar? (I'm assuming you see things in the spiritual (aka astral) but I don't believe I've ever heard you use any of these terms.) And, when it comes to you, I don't want to assume anything. (That's a complement, btw!)

So you are saying the radioactivity is a non-experience for you because you already embody the changes it is making for the rest of us? How is it a non-experience to you if you don't want to ingest anything that's exposed to radioactivity?

Thanks
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No astral or spiritual here. My brain does the calculation, you could say. It's done in a logical way with neuronics. This one is peculiar because its geometry touches the building blocks of physicality.

For the radioaction, it's a non-experience for me the same way physical birth would be a non-experience for you. You are no longer compatible with your mother's womb, though you may see persons around you being born that way.

As far as taking advantage of nexus points I would suggest being comfortable with the Genius first. There are nexus points (of all "sizes") around you. They're just measured attractive/repulsive units (sometimes misidentified as a black hole when relative to certain things in space).
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Yes it does depend on the water and farm-raised is nasty water.

Ah, very interesting how you calculate it. I would love to know more but I suppose that's on down the line for me. I don't even have the building blocks of the Genius yet.

The building blocks of physicality...well, that sounds close to apocalypse stuff. Of course, I can see cracks in physicality anyway. I've just had hopes the new would be more in place to take care of some of the worse of the collapse. I guess it takes a collapse for the new to be taken seriously though. Btw, what do you say the building blocks of physicality are? I just realized I'm assuming things again! ;o(

I have an interesting experience to share. Christmas dinner one year ago, everybody went nuts when dinner was ready (buffet style) and it was like a feeding frenzy...except for myself and my husband. We calmly walked through, unnoticed, and calmly got our food.

Later, my husband and I talked about it and said it could be the same in a apocalyptic type "situation." We could be at a different "level" than the others and walk through unnoticed while they are in some kind of frenzy. (At the time, we thought of it as a different vibration but now I would say we had a different perception.)

So, I have a question for you. I have come to the understanding that perception trumps everything, including location. Could perception also trump an apocalypse type situation....that impacts a broader scale than say my family Christmas dinner? For example, a national type situation or even world type situation?

Interesting comments about nexus points/black holes. (Attractive/repulsive units, hmmmmmm!) Okay, I'll try to understand the Genius first though. This sounds reasonable. Can't go to college level when in grade-school, eh?

Thanks
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Grade school? hehe.. We're not there yet. Don't worry! We've got plenty of, er, time.

The building blocks of physicality are what you've been reading about on this thread.

The classical meaning of apocalypse is "uncovering" and it is how the term is (was) used.

The resistance (a "final battle") is one kind of physicality (this one) and an other kind (the dream world).

The "new world" is the dream world.

Stories are created time and time again to point the finger back to you as the author of reality but the point is almost all ways missed, even though such things are plainly illustrated.

[And I've just used up my "talk about the bible" card for just the few lines above...]

There is no mass death and destruction to worry about. It is all ready happening. We have only to let go of one kind of perspective for there to be an other.

But of course so many aspects of our perspective are heavily invested in the old ways and don't want to let go (this is the narrative, but really the old ways and new ways are just not so relative).

The narrative plays out in different ways, and sometimes I discuss it in these threads if I see an opportunity for there to be some understanding of the bigger picture.

Sometimes when you're driving, the "danger" road signs may pop up not because there is actual danger on the road but because it's the most efficient way for you to pay attention to where you're going.
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Thanks, but it sounds a bit complicated.

A lines or two of Ec would suit me better, I suppose.

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English is a poor slow language in my opinion.

If I'm honest Chaol, it is one of my major flaws, not being able to explain something properly, 'they' use the term 'dyslexia' to describe the problem, I have my own opinions though, but I wont go too far off the thread subject.

You said with an understanding of neuronics anything was possible.

But I feel the need to ask if you could learn and speak fluently in any currently spoken language from around this earth instantly with more advanced uses?

Im not sure if you have seen the movie The Matrix

But the main guy is able to "Jack In" and then "programs" be loaded into the brain.

In the movie he is able to instantly learn all sorts of things.

Im obviously talking VERY advanced uses here.

Also we can move this to the neuronics thread if you prefer?
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What you're referring to is far from advanced. But is there a purpose to learning something instantly?
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Far from advanced meaning its really simple?? What sort of scale are we talking?

I feel like a completely different person since writing the questions btw lol

I most definitely agree that not all things need to be learned instantly or can be learned instantly, life has many lessons, it would defeat the purpose of coming here.

More understanding brings more questions and more headaches!

Thanks for taking time to share your knowledge :)
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/snips/

Add some toasted, sourdough, boule bread and olive oil with balsmic vinegar for dipping...and you have a good meal there. Well, that is, if your fish is wild-caught and not farm-raised! If it's farm-raised, I wouldn't feed it to a dog. ;o(
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Depends on what's in water, I suppose.

Here's where I got the quote from and I am a little off in remembering it. I apologize. You actually said: "Things are merging at every level."
Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 254)
Someone else said, in one of the threads, that we merged in July. (I hope I don't have to go find the post. They told me that while you were gone.)

The main thing I wanted to clarify is how much impact the merging is having on the physical. I guess not much, at least in a physical way, which I find interesting. To me, that says your world is not physical in the way my world is.

Yes, you're correct. We are doing something right now and will be doing something else next. I just thought since you tie things to nexus points, we could take advantage of this one. Can you tell me how you have determined this one is peculiar? (I'm assuming you see things in the spiritual (aka astral) but I don't believe I've ever heard you use any of these terms.) And, when it comes to you, I don't want to assume anything. (That's a complement, btw!)

So you are saying the radioactivity is a non-experience for you because you already embody the changes it is making for the rest of us? How is it a non-experience to you if you don't want to ingest anything that's exposed to radioactivity?

Thanks
 Quoting: Unit3

No astral or spiritual here. My brain does the calculation, you could say. It's done in a logical way with neuronics. This one is peculiar because its geometry touches the building blocks of physicality.

For the radioaction, it's a non-experience for me the same way physical birth would be a non-experience for you. You are no longer compatible with your mother's womb, though you may see persons around you being born that way.

As far as taking advantage of nexus points I would suggest being comfortable with the Genius first. There are nexus points (of all "sizes") around you. They're just measured attractive/repulsive units (sometimes misidentified as a black hole when relative to certain things in space).
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Yes it does depend on the water and farm-raised is nasty water.

Ah, very interesting how you calculate it. I would love to know more but I suppose that's on down the line for me. I don't even have the building blocks of the Genius yet.

The building blocks of physicality...well, that sounds close to apocalypse stuff. Of course, I can see cracks in physicality anyway. I've just had hopes the new would be more in place to take care of some of the worse of the collapse. I guess it takes a collapse for the new to be taken seriously though. Btw, what do you say the building blocks of physicality are? I just realized I'm assuming things again! ;o(

I have an interesting experience to share. Christmas dinner one year ago, everybody went nuts when dinner was ready (buffet style) and it was like a feeding frenzy...except for myself and my husband. We calmly walked through, unnoticed, and calmly got our food.

Later, my husband and I talked about it and said it could be the same in a apocalyptic type "situation." We could be at a different "level" than the others and walk through unnoticed while they are in some kind of frenzy. (At the time, we thought of it as a different vibration but now I would say we had a different perception.)

So, I have a question for you. I have come to the understanding that perception trumps everything, including location. Could perception also trump an apocalypse type situation....that impacts a broader scale than say my family Christmas dinner? For example, a national type situation or even world type situation?

Interesting comments about nexus points/black holes. (Attractive/repulsive units, hmmmmmm!) Okay, I'll try to understand the Genius first though. This sounds reasonable. Can't go to college level when in grade-school, eh?

Thanks
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Grade school? hehe.. We're not there yet. Don't worry! We've got plenty of, er, time.

The building blocks of physicality are what you've been reading about on this thread.

The classical meaning of apocalypse is "uncovering" and it is how the term is (was) used.

The resistance (a "final battle") is one kind of physicality (this one) and an other kind (the dream world).

The "new world" is the dream world.

Stories are created time and time again to point the finger back to you as the author of reality but the point is almost all ways missed, even though such things are plainly illustrated.

[And I've just used up my "talk about the bible" card for just the few lines above...]

There is no mass death and destruction to worry about. It is all ready happening. We have only to let go of one kind of perspective for there to be an other.

But of course so many aspects of our perspective are heavily invested in the old ways and don't want to let go (this is the narrative, but really the old ways and new ways are just not so relative).

The narrative plays out in different ways, and sometimes I discuss it in these threads if I see an opportunity for there to be some understanding of the bigger picture.

Sometimes when you're driving, the "danger" road signs may pop up not because there is actual danger on the road but because it's the most efficient way for you to pay attention to where you're going.
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Well, I missed pre-school so I guess I'm getting that experience now, heh!

Interesting that the resistance differs in physicality for each world. Are you saying the resistance just appears differently in each world because of the construct of each of them? Iow, the resistance is the same in each but manifests differently?

It's not easy being god, eh? I didn't realize how much comfort I had in believing a God bigger and also outside of myself was directing things. (This could even still be but it's outside of my perspective and also I am seeing more about myself in this regards...so no worries.)

The point isn't missed that I'm the author of reality, it's being thoroughly investigated. ;o) I look for holes in everything. Iow, I leave no stone unturned. After all, you don't expect anyone just to lay down their beliefs without testing it, do you? It's pretty easy for me to see I am the author of reality. It's not easy for me to see who I am though. Who is the person who juggles nothing into something ad infinitum and recursive?

Also, I apologize for posting so much. I think it's possible you still have jet lag for one thing (I know you use a different term but I am too lazy to go look for it.) But also, I could probably be less pushy about learning this.

Thanks for the bible talk, heh! Funny you call it that because I think the majority of bibletards would hang me to a cross.

Okay, so I have been seeing the danger signs as my own fear (resistance) peeking at me. I use it to look inward at my fears and also to motivate me beyond my resistances. Plus I'm learning the geometry of relationships. Is resistance just a geometry of relationships? And if so, then a genius or Ec could take me past it? What about the fact that the Genius will not work for you in the way you expect it to if you are resisting?

See, what you are teaching us does not seem all black and white as far as I can tell.

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Thanks, but it sounds a bit complicated.

A lines or two of Ec would suit me better, I suppose.

 Quoting: Chaol


English is a poor slow language in my opinion.

If I'm honest Chaol, it is one of my major flaws, not being able to explain something properly, 'they' use the term 'dyslexia' to describe the problem, I have my own opinions though, but I wont go too far off the thread subject.

You said with an understanding of neuronics anything was possible.

But I feel the need to ask if you could learn and speak fluently in any currently spoken language from around this earth instantly with more advanced uses?

Im not sure if you have seen the movie The Matrix

But the main guy is able to "Jack In" and then "programs" be loaded into the brain.

In the movie he is able to instantly learn all sorts of things.

Im obviously talking VERY advanced uses here.

Also we can move this to the neuronics thread if you prefer?
 Quoting: LeKing


What you're referring to is far from advanced. But is there a purpose to learning something instantly?
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Far from advanced meaning its really simple?? What sort of scale are we talking?

I feel like a completely different person since writing the questions btw lol

I most definitely agree that not all things need to be learned instantly or can be learned instantly, life has many lessons, it would defeat the purpose of coming here.

More understanding brings more questions and more headaches!

Thanks for taking time to share your knowledge :)
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Interaction is very important.

Given the choice between learning something instantly and taking 1,000 years to learn it the Genius will take the latter.

One of more aspects of it takes the 'time' to learn every facet of it. Deeper aspects are it. (So really it is perceiving itself, or at least that' the idea.)

Much less accurately, you could say that it learns this in a 'past' life. (Although past is a value of perspective.)

And then this learning is symbolized. So you can look at something new and understand it 'instantly' but it is never really instant because there's so much that you have all ready experienced about it.

You only need to know what the symbols are in your perspective in order to 'learn it instantly'.

Every moment you can see a cup (a symbol) for the first time in your perspective and understand it because other values of your perspective (in your 'past', for example) have experienced it. And yet other values are the cup.

Perhaps you are ("were") a cup-maker, or loved cups, or lived in one, or oversaw an army of cups, or was addicted to coffee, et c. And you are every kind of cup imaginable.

(Yes, your Genius has lots of time for these things.)

For a sense of scale of the material we've covered (to say nothing of the understanding we've unveiled for ourselves, which of course is less) let's say that we've barely covered 1% of these things.

Much of that can only be illustrated in Ec because the words and concepts are not had in English.

But in English I'd say we have an other 4-5 years of material to go through, at least. In Ec-English probably an other 30-40 years. In pure Ec perhaps thousands.

We have not really discussed how you are creating your reality now, for example. And we have barely begun how we do that practically, at every moment. (Much less use it.)

We have not yet touched upon the calculation of the geometry of relationships. (And although maths are symbols, it entails a new kind of math that symbolizes every concept and operation much more simply and efficiently.)

To give you a glimpse of some of the things yet to come in the next year or so...

Imagine that in the 'empty space' of your solar system are countless other solar systems, all existing together at the same time. And because of the frequency of your perceptions you are only able to perceive what is most relative to it, yet you are still able to see all of the other solar systems represented in your solar system.

So... the Sun in your solar system is a representation of something else in an other solar system. And every planet, orbit, atmosphere, et c, are also representations.

What you are perceiving in your world are, in effect, representations of values from other worlds (but still part of the "complete" perspective).

Here (symbol) you (symbol) are (symbol) sitting (symbol) at (symbol) your (symbol) computer (symbol) typing (symbol) on (symbol) keys... you get the idea. Spaces for each, all interacting together under the guise of various logics.

So imagine all of the life that exists in your own reality that you never knew was there.

Now imagine being able to communicate with those worlds. (Something you all ready do, but cannot yet fathom.)

Now imagine that you want to walk around on what you call Mars.

With a quick calculation you can find Mars in your current perspective, "speak" a few choice words to it (via the communication protocol), and then your reality is Mars. (There are different Mars from which to choose, but you get the idea.)

Any wonder in the universe literally at your fingertips through the geometry of relationships and the nature of perspective.

Yes, we have only scratched the surface. What you can (will eventually) do I cannot even begin to describe with these words.
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Depends on what's in water, I suppose.

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No astral or spiritual here. My brain does the calculation, you could say. It's done in a logical way with neuronics. This one is peculiar because its geometry touches the building blocks of physicality.

For the radioaction, it's a non-experience for me the same way physical birth would be a non-experience for you. You are no longer compatible with your mother's womb, though you may see persons around you being born that way.

As far as taking advantage of nexus points I would suggest being comfortable with the Genius first. There are nexus points (of all "sizes") around you. They're just measured attractive/repulsive units (sometimes misidentified as a black hole when relative to certain things in space).
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Yes it does depend on the water and farm-raised is nasty water.

Ah, very interesting how you calculate it. I would love to know more but I suppose that's on down the line for me. I don't even have the building blocks of the Genius yet.

The building blocks of physicality...well, that sounds close to apocalypse stuff. Of course, I can see cracks in physicality anyway. I've just had hopes the new would be more in place to take care of some of the worse of the collapse. I guess it takes a collapse for the new to be taken seriously though. Btw, what do you say the building blocks of physicality are? I just realized I'm assuming things again! ;o(

I have an interesting experience to share. Christmas dinner one year ago, everybody went nuts when dinner was ready (buffet style) and it was like a feeding frenzy...except for myself and my husband. We calmly walked through, unnoticed, and calmly got our food.

Later, my husband and I talked about it and said it could be the same in a apocalyptic type "situation." We could be at a different "level" than the others and walk through unnoticed while they are in some kind of frenzy. (At the time, we thought of it as a different vibration but now I would say we had a different perception.)

So, I have a question for you. I have come to the understanding that perception trumps everything, including location. Could perception also trump an apocalypse type situation....that impacts a broader scale than say my family Christmas dinner? For example, a national type situation or even world type situation?

Interesting comments about nexus points/black holes. (Attractive/repulsive units, hmmmmmm!) Okay, I'll try to understand the Genius first though. This sounds reasonable. Can't go to college level when in grade-school, eh?

Thanks
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Grade school? hehe.. We're not there yet. Don't worry! We've got plenty of, er, time.

The building blocks of physicality are what you've been reading about on this thread.

The classical meaning of apocalypse is "uncovering" and it is how the term is (was) used.

The resistance (a "final battle") is one kind of physicality (this one) and an other kind (the dream world).

The "new world" is the dream world.

Stories are created time and time again to point the finger back to you as the author of reality but the point is almost all ways missed, even though such things are plainly illustrated.

[And I've just used up my "talk about the bible" card for just the few lines above...]

There is no mass death and destruction to worry about. It is all ready happening. We have only to let go of one kind of perspective for there to be an other.

But of course so many aspects of our perspective are heavily invested in the old ways and don't want to let go (this is the narrative, but really the old ways and new ways are just not so relative).

The narrative plays out in different ways, and sometimes I discuss it in these threads if I see an opportunity for there to be some understanding of the bigger picture.

Sometimes when you're driving, the "danger" road signs may pop up not because there is actual danger on the road but because it's the most efficient way for you to pay attention to where you're going.
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Well, I missed pre-school so I guess I'm getting that experience now, heh!

Interesting that the resistance differs in physicality for each world. Are you saying the resistance just appears differently in each world because of the construct of each of them? Iow, the resistance is the same in each but manifests differently?
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There is only this reality, re-interpreted endlessly.

But, yes, the dream world is also resisting. Some of this, er, comes out in your reality. But it's nothing personal.

Resistance = existence. Without resistance there is nothing to be. So I suppose we're all ways learning how to 'exist' while making nothing-in-particular irrelevant. (Resisting nothingness, to say it less accurately.)

It's not easy being god, eh? I didn't realize how much comfort I had in believing a God bigger and also outside of myself was directing things. (This could even still be but it's outside of my perspective and also I am seeing more about myself in this regards...so no worries.)

The point isn't missed that I'm the author of reality, it's being thoroughly investigated. ;o) I look for holes in everything. Iow, I leave no stone unturned. After all, you don't expect anyone just to lay down their beliefs without testing it, do you? It's pretty easy for me to see I am the author of reality. It's not easy for me to see who I am though. Who is the person who juggles nothing into something ad infinitum and recursive?
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Take your time. You've got lots of time to go over this.

And, yes, everything should be (and is) thoroughly investigate.

Assume nothing I've said is true, and you're off to a fine start.
Also, I apologize for posting so much. I think it's possible you still have jet lag for one thing (I know you use a different term but I am too lazy to go look for it.) But also, I could probably be less pushy about learning this.

Thanks for the bible talk, heh! Funny you call it that because I think the majority of bibletards would hang me to a cross. My hubby says I'll be burning in hell for eternity!

Okay, so I have been seeing the danger signs as my own fear (resistance) peeking at me. I use it to look inward at my fears and also to motivate me beyond my resistances. Plus I'm learning the geometry of relationships. Is resistance just a geometry of relationships? And if so, then a genius or Ec could take me past it? What about the fact that the Genius will not work for you in the way you expect it to if you are resisting?

See, what you are teaching us does not seem all black and white as far as I can tell.
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Your posts are just fine.

Jet lag? hehe.. I suppose you could call it that. But it's just something I experience every few months. No worries.

The danger is part of the show. It's all interaction.

Resistance is more that something is relative but you put an illusion on top of an illusion and pretend it's not there.

We experience what is most relative to us, so if we pretend that something is not relative to us then we are "missing" part of our experience and our reality will seem like it does not make sense in some ways.

The Genius all ways works but may not in the way you intend if you ignore parts of reality. (How can you experience the new reality if it is being ignored?)
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Hi Choal does your world have evil, TPTB or religion?
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Hi Choal does your world have evil, TPTB or religion?
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Yes. But of course interpreted differently.

But evil is what you make it, as are the other two.

Common concepts relative to all religions include faith, devotion, worship, ritual, dedication, sacrifice, commitment, spirit, prayer, suffering, festival, and celebration.

So in our world there are quite a number of ways to illustrate the above. Much more than what is realized is a religion (to us, at least). It could include any and all of the following:

Environmentalism
Christianity
Science
Politics
Business, Capitalism
Company Employment
Celebrity
News
Nightclubs
Art
Formal Education
Sex
Fitness
Health
Medicine
Shopping/Malls
Gambling
Music
Cooking/Food
Comedy
Asylums/Prisons
Tourist attractions
Museums
Sports
Buddhism

And what are 'the powers that be' other than values of your perspective?

Perhaps "they" are doing what we don't wish to do directly.

"Evil" is up to interpretation, and not absolute. There are commonly-accepted "evils", of course. But still nothing universally evil because it is an illusion of perspective.
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Yes it does depend on the water and farm-raised is nasty water.



The narrative plays out in different ways, and sometimes I discuss it in these threads if I see an opportunity for there to be some understanding of the bigger picture.

Sometimes when you're driving, the "danger" road signs may pop up not because there is actual danger on the road but because it's the most efficient way for you to pay attention to where you're going.
 Quoting: Unit3

Well, I missed pre-school so I guess I'm getting that experience now, heh!

Interesting that the resistance differs in physicality for each world. Are you saying the resistance just appears differently in each world because of the construct of each of them? Iow, the resistance is the same in each but manifests differently?
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There is only this reality, re-interpreted endlessly.

But, yes, the dream world is also resisting. Some of this, er, comes out in your reality. But it's nothing personal.

Resistance = existence. Without resistance there is nothing to be. So I suppose we're all ways learning how to 'exist' while making nothing-in-particular irrelevant. (Resisting nothingness, to say it less accurately.)

It's not easy being god, eh? I didn't realize how much comfort I had in believing a God bigger and also outside of myself was directing things. (This could even still be but it's outside of my perspective and also I am seeing more about myself in this regards...so no worries.)

The point isn't missed that I'm the author of reality, it's being thoroughly investigated. ;o) I look for holes in everything. Iow, I leave no stone unturned. After all, you don't expect anyone just to lay down their beliefs without testing it, do you? It's pretty easy for me to see I am the author of reality. It's not easy for me to see who I am though. Who is the person who juggles nothing into something ad infinitum and recursive?
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Take your time. You've got lots of time to go over this.

And, yes, everything should be (and is) thoroughly investigate.

Assume nothing I've said is true, and you're off to a fine start.
Also, I apologize for posting so much. I think it's possible you still have jet lag for one thing (I know you use a different term but I am too lazy to go look for it.) But also, I could probably be less pushy about learning this.

Thanks for the bible talk, heh! Funny you call it that because I think the majority of bibletards would hang me to a cross.

Okay, so I have been seeing the danger signs as my own fear (resistance) peeking at me. I use it to look inward at my fears and also to motivate me beyond my resistances. Plus I'm learning the geometry of relationships. Is resistance just a geometry of relationships? And if so, then a genius or Ec could take me past it? What about the fact that the Genius will not work for you in the way you expect it to if you are resisting?

See, what you are teaching us does not seem all black and white as far as I can tell.
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Your posts are just fine.

Jet lag? hehe.. I suppose you could call it that. But it's just something I experience every few months. No worries.

The danger is part of the show. It's all interaction.

Resistance is more that something is relative but you put an illusion on top of an illusion and pretend it's not there.

We experience what is most relative to us, so if we pretend that something is not relative to us then we are "missing" part of our experience and our reality will seem like it does not make sense in some ways.

The Genius all ways works but may not in the way you intend if you ignore parts of reality. (How can you experience the new reality if it is being ignored?)
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Okay, then is there a way to write a Genius so we aren't ignoring parts of reality?

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Okay, then is there a way to write a Genius so we aren't ignoring parts of reality?
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It is normal to ignore parts of reality. We ignore that which is not relevant to us at the time.

But as I've said before, the "ignored" parts are all ready illustrated in that which is relevant.

So in that way it is impossible for you to ignore those other parts of reality.

The question is probably something like, "I heard about X reality and would like to experience it. How do I?"

As it becomes relevant then it will be experienced.

That is the nature of using the Genius steps provided. In that way you can make something more relative to your experience.

So find the parts that you'd like to make more relative and you can make a model for that.

I hope the answer is a bit clear. The question is more recursive so the answer may be a bit confusing.
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Okay, then is there a way to write a Genius so we aren't ignoring parts of reality?
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It is normal to ignore parts of reality. We ignore that which is not relevant to us at the time.

But as I've said before, the "ignored" parts are all ready illustrated in that which is relevant.

So in that way it is impossible for you to ignore those other parts of reality.

The question is probably something like, "I heard about X reality and would like to experience it. How do I?"

As it becomes relevant then it will be experienced.

That is the nature of using the Genius steps provided. In that way you can make something more relative to your experience.

So find the parts that you'd like to make more relative and you can make a model for that.

I hope the answer is a bit clear. The question is more recursive so the answer may be a bit confusing.
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Okay, you're saying we will always ignore a part of reality. And the purpose of the Genius is to make these ignored parts relevant. So, there will always be a reason to use a Genius.

I sure wonder when one gets to where you are in all this, how much is left to explore. But, I guess there will always be something.

Thanks Chaol!
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