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Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality

 
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thank you :) i´m really looking forward to it. so for me it will be tomorrow night as you said time zones will not have any effect right?
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That is correct.
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This seems more to be a form of Existentialism than anything else.
 Quoting: TS66


What is existentialism, to you?
 Quoting: Chaol


It is that all that we perceive as life, this or any other, is created by and for our own personal existence.

Let me clarify, SOLELY for our own personal existence. Those around us only exist because of us, and cease to exist without us.
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Actualy existentialism is an open ended belife. Me and some friend's created a church of existentialism and two of my roommates at the time even became ordained ministers for $25 online with printed certificates.

Anyway whenever we all where together no matter where we where, we would discuss our existence on the earth plain and what we saw and did in interaction with what you would call our waking dream life. Basically the way it worked was that our belief and understanding of the world was ever changing and we captured experiences through our memory banks and discussed it as a group.

Well, eventually we all went our separate ways and continue to this day to live for our experiences that are continually changing.

So in sort, existentialism(to us) was that our understanding of existence was ever changing. As in the only thing constant is change. Of course we used some wise sages word's of enlightenment to help phrase what we already understood.

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Chaol, for the last few months I have been getting real bad sleep paralysis and I lose no consciousness between dream state/awake state. Its like if I am in a dream I will start to get real tired(in the dream) and the dream state slowly fades away and before I know it my room that I am sleeping in starts to reappear. What is all this about? I also sleep with a blanket over my eyes so I dunno why I am able to see my room upon wake up with a blanket over my eyes.

Also why would my dreams have a physical touch/weight to them? Like if I see a book in my dream I could pick it up and it has physical weight to it, or if a dog comes and jumps on my lap I could feel the weight of the dog just as I would in this life. Whats this all about? Please tell me

One other thing and this has happened to me a few times. I would be in my dream extremely tired(getting ready to go to sleep in my dream) and these punks probably late teens maybe early 20's just go and slam a door and try to startle me and when they do that they laugh. I will hear the door slam in real life and jump up even though it happens in that dream state. Its very weird.

Also whats this circular white/liquid type of light that I sometimes see at the ceiling upon wake up?
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When you are awake, you are also dreaming. When you dream and realize you're dreaming, that's a lucid dream. Anything is possible, but for the most part your dreams play out based on expectation which sets the logical narative for that instance. Hope this helps.
Maybe... you are all powerful... all knowing... forever present in all ways... you've chosen to forget... remember?
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Chaol, for the last few months I have been getting real bad sleep paralysis and I lose no consciousness between dream state/awake state. Its like if I am in a dream I will start to get real tired(in the dream) and the dream state slowly fades away and before I know it my room that I am sleeping in starts to reappear. What is all this about? I also sleep with a blanket over my eyes so I dunno why I am able to see my room upon wake up with a blanket over my eyes.

Also why would my dreams have a physical touch/weight to them? Like if I see a book in my dream I could pick it up and it has physical weight to it, or if a dog comes and jumps on my lap I could feel the weight of the dog just as I would in this life. Whats this all about? Please tell me

One other thing and this has happened to me a few times. I would be in my dream extremely tired(getting ready to go to sleep in my dream) and these punks probably late teens maybe early 20's just go and slam a door and try to startle me and when they do that they laugh. I will hear the door slam in real life and jump up even though it happens in that dream state. Its very weird.

Also whats this circular white/liquid type of light that I sometimes see at the ceiling upon wake up?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3757859


When you are awake, you are also dreaming. When you dream and realize you're dreaming, that's a lucid dream. Anything is possible, but for the most part your dreams play out based on expectation which sets the logical narative for that instance. Hope this helps.
 Quoting: MutantMessiah



Yes thank you
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Will you post the Key early enough for all Time Zones? I expect it, but still i wanned to ask :)
Do whe only need that specific Key or do we need anything else? Sorry if you posted it before...

greetings again from Germany

ah another question. will it be possible for my girlfriend to experience it with the key if she did not read any of it before in this or other threads?
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Hey Chaol,

Is it cool to invite friends outside of this thread/forum? Once the key is given can I just instruct them to take the necessary steps you'll provide?
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Thanks for the swift reply Chaol,
you said that we use time and space as tools to perceive better (logically), when you mean "us" does it mean that each individual has a different basis of logic? Is there such a thing as universal logic? Or is it just us who has adapted to other peoples' logic given to us through books, movies, and most of all experiences.

Thanks :)
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99.9% of the dreams I have are awful.. there's this dark feeling to all of them, uneasiness, anxiety, absolutely BIZARRE situations, I've dreamed of dying or almost dying thousands of times, I know the feeling of being 'about to die' so well because of dreams, I can just feel the adrenaline/anxiety fly through the roof.. I have dreams of violence, cops, drugs(I used to be a drug addict), the thing I notice about nearly all my dreams is there's this urgency and anxiety and I can't ever just be relaxed or enjoy anything at all, I keep trying to recall a nice enjoyable dream but I cant.. in my regular life, I will have several awful dreams each and every night, in a whole year I might have a handful of nice or OK dreams.. I do love the act of sleeping and EVERYTIME I go to sleep I tell myself over and over "I wanna wake up happy and excited, I wanna have a nice dream, I dont want bad dreams", it NEVER works...
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Thanks for the swift reply Chaol,
you said that we use time and space as tools to perceive better (logically), when you mean "us" does it mean that each individual has a different basis of logic? Is there such a thing as universal logic? Or is it just us who has adapted to other peoples' logic given to us through books, movies, and most of all experiences.

Thanks :)
 Quoting: Dad'sBoy


There is but 1 perspective. In order to exist (as we do) we separate things from ourselves. You from me for example, now from then, up from down. In "reality" none of these things can exist independent of the other. Everything is in relation to everything else. "Geometry"

The less we choose to separate from ourselves the more we see that there is but 1 logic that perspective follows. But if you notice, through technology, religion and other concepts and tools, new separations are made at every moment.

Not a good or a bad thing.. Until u decide it is 1 or the other ..another separation. There are countless logics, you are free to make anything logical through a change in perspective, which requires a change of relationships.
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Thanks for the swift reply Chaol,
you said that we use time and space as tools to perceive better (logically), when you mean "us" does it mean that each individual has a different basis of logic? Is there such a thing as universal logic? Or is it just us who has adapted to other peoples' logic given to us through books, movies, and most of all experiences.

Thanks :)
 Quoting: Dad'sBoy


There is but 1 perspective. In order to exist (as we do) we separate things from ourselves. You from me for example, now from then, up from down. In "reality" none of these things can exist independent of the other. Everything is in relation to everything else. "Geometry"

The less we choose to separate from ourselves the more we see that there is but 1 logic that perspective follows. But if you notice, through technology, religion and other concepts and tools, new separations are made at every moment.

Not a good or a bad thing.. Until u decide it is 1 or the other ..another separation. There are countless logics, you are free to make anything logical through a change in perspective, which requires a change of relationships.
 Quoting: MaJorMan 4593265


Well put MM.hf
Maybe... you are all powerful... all knowing... forever present in all ways... you've chosen to forget... remember?
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Horus? Ra? El? I'm not fond of these archtypes, otherwise I'm really interested in this thread and the idea behind it.
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Yeah, me either. OP got my attention but she forgot God. My God doesn't use the name Horus that Im aware of or Ra. I see plenty of EL but there is a name above any of those names. Ever hear of it OP? Do you follow. Why revert back to some ancient names of by-gone gods (not including El). Do you really throw away the best info you have for truth and cling to ancient names because you think they sound more awe-inspiring? What do you mean "your world". Explain yourself clearly without using allegorical symbolism to baffle us with bullshit. You people don't ask enough questions of OP. OP claims to be a fantast;a visionary or dreamer, making fantastic claims without adequate explanation, especially in laymen's terms. I am interested in hearing what you have to say but not in wasting my time or going down a dark path, that pretends to be light. We must be careful what we follow. What say you OP? Where do you get your belief system and information? Are you dedicated to the tenets of the New Testament?
 Quoting: READY SET GO!


Kind of seems like you're the one clinging to 'ancient' sources, no?
 Quoting: CatCarel


Dumbest response ever. God is eternal. Jesus is running the show, not your pagan nothing gods. You're gonna find out the truth. You're on the wrong side of the fence.
By night on my bed I sought him whom my soul loveth.
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99.9% of the dreams I have are awful.. there's this dark feeling to all of them, uneasiness, anxiety, absolutely BIZARRE situations, I've dreamed of dying or almost dying thousands of times, I know the feeling of being 'about to die' so well because of dreams, I can just feel the adrenaline/anxiety fly through the roof.. I have dreams of violence, cops, drugs(I used to be a drug addict), the thing I notice about nearly all my dreams is there's this urgency and anxiety and I can't ever just be relaxed or enjoy anything at all, I keep trying to recall a nice enjoyable dream but I cant.. in my regular life, I will have several awful dreams each and every night, in a whole year I might have a handful of nice or OK dreams.. I do love the act of sleeping and EVERYTIME I go to sleep I tell myself over and over "I wanna wake up happy and excited, I wanna have a nice dream, I dont want bad dreams", it NEVER works...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13524900


We have "bad" dreams because we have fear. Fear of death, fear of loss, fear of falling into old patterns etc. These dreams only continue to grace you with their love because you are still afraid. Look at "bad" dreams differently and find the "lesson" in the experience. This way the "bad" deeams become a way for you to learn to get past your fear instead of paralyzing you in place.
Maybe... you are all powerful... all knowing... forever present in all ways... you've chosen to forget... remember?
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Horus? Ra? El? I'm not fond of these archtypes, otherwise I'm really interested in this thread and the idea behind it.
 Quoting: einsteinsfly


Yeah, me either. OP got my attention but she forgot God. My God doesn't use the name Horus that Im aware of or Ra. I see plenty of EL but there is a name above any of those names. Ever hear of it OP? Do you follow. Why revert back to some ancient names of by-gone gods (not including El). Do you really throw away the best info you have for truth and cling to ancient names because you think they sound more awe-inspiring? What do you mean "your world". Explain yourself clearly without using allegorical symbolism to baffle us with bullshit. You people don't ask enough questions of OP. OP claims to be a fantast;a visionary or dreamer, making fantastic claims without adequate explanation, especially in laymen's terms. I am interested in hearing what you have to say but not in wasting my time or going down a dark path, that pretends to be light. We must be careful what we follow. What say you OP? Where do you get your belief system and information? Are you dedicated to the tenets of the New Testament?
 Quoting: READY SET GO!


Kind of seems like you're the one clinging to 'ancient' sources, no?
 Quoting: CatCarel


Dumbest response ever. God is eternal. Jesus is running the show, not your pagan nothing gods. You're gonna find out the truth. You're on the wrong side of the fence.
 Quoting: READY SET GO!

If it exists, God made it. If I am deceived, God has deceived me. There is no fence... Jesus is a representation of something far more profound and important than what we may find in some modern bible saturated in politics and hidden agenda. Everything exists now, in this moment... you are Jesus, you are God and you are perspective. peace

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Hey Chaol,

Is it cool to invite friends outside of this thread/forum? Once the key is given can I just instruct them to take the necessary steps you'll provide?
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MM Spread the message through the interwebs!!
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Horus? Ra? El? I'm not fond of these archtypes, otherwise I'm really interested in this thread and the idea behind it.
 Quoting: einsteinsfly


Yeah, me either. OP got my attention but she forgot God. My God doesn't use the name Horus that Im aware of or Ra. I see plenty of EL but there is a name above any of those names. Ever hear of it OP? Do you follow. Why revert back to some ancient names of by-gone gods (not including El). Do you really throw away the best info you have for truth and cling to ancient names because you think they sound more awe-inspiring? What do you mean "your world". Explain yourself clearly without using allegorical symbolism to baffle us with bullshit. You people don't ask enough questions of OP. OP claims to be a fantast;a visionary or dreamer, making fantastic claims without adequate explanation, especially in laymen's terms. I am interested in hearing what you have to say but not in wasting my time or going down a dark path, that pretends to be light. We must be careful what we follow. What say you OP? Where do you get your belief system and information? Are you dedicated to the tenets of the New Testament?
 Quoting: READY SET GO!


Kind of seems like you're the one clinging to 'ancient' sources, no?
 Quoting: CatCarel


Dumbest response ever. God is eternal. Jesus is running the show, not your pagan nothing gods. You're gonna find out the truth. You're on the wrong side of the fence.
 Quoting: READY SET GO!


Your avatar is Pagan.
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Hey Chaol,

Is it cool to invite friends outside of this thread/forum? Once the key is given can I just instruct them to take the necessary steps you'll provide?
 Quoting: MaJorMan 4593265


MM Spread the message through the interwebs!!
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I definiteley have been. If Chaol gives me the green light I'll have as many people under the tree with us as I can. What I think it will come down to is who is able to recall the dream, and all that is obtained from it.
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Is there any chance the dream will have a higher degree of stability than a standard lucid dream?
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Is there any chance the dream will have a higher degree of stability than a standard lucid dream?
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23.6 percent higher probablity.
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Is there any chance the dream will have a higher degree of stability than a standard lucid dream?
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23.6 percent higher probablity.
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Lol
Maybe... you are all powerful... all knowing... forever present in all ways... you've chosen to forget... remember?
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Can you please send an invite to Scarlett Johansson to join us in the dream?
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Ok. But is that so the meaning of your dream doesn't get lost in translation?

We will keep it simple, meeting underneath a fine tree. Just us and the grass the the sun and the shade.

This way, most of us will keep the memory of the event (i.e., that it does not get lost when translating to our waking mind.)
 Quoting: Chaol


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To get out of this trap.

You have to let it all go, Neo. Fear, doubt, and disbelief.

Free your mind.
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june 14 in Lithuania so where the symbol?
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june 14 in Lithuania so where the symbol?
 Quoting: Newbie Dreamer


Yup, and it's getting late here. Since time is more flexible in a dream, as Chaol have mentioned, I guess I'll join you guys tommorow (hopefully) :)

Have a nice trip to the dream world:)
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june 14 in Lithuania so where the symbol?
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Yup, and it's getting late here. Since time is more flexible in a dream, as Chaol have mentioned, I guess I'll join you guys tommorow (hopefully) :)

Have a nice trip to the dream world:)
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It's tomorrow night we meet, friends
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june 14 in Lithuania so where the symbol?
 Quoting: Newbie Dreamer


Yup, and it's getting late here. Since time is more flexible in a dream, as Chaol have mentioned, I guess I'll join you guys tommorow (hopefully) :)

Have a nice trip to the dream world:)
 Quoting: Maya 1487619


Where all Lithuanians come from i was almost alone from LT... for long long time...
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june 14 in Lithuania so where the symbol?
 Quoting: Newbie Dreamer


Yup, and it's getting late here. Since time is more flexible in a dream, as Chaol have mentioned, I guess I'll join you guys tommorow (hopefully) :)

Have a nice trip to the dream world:)
 Quoting: Maya 1487619


Where all Lithuanians come from i was almost alone from LT... for long long time...
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Believe me, you are not alone here!:)
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Of course I immediately thought of this:)


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Horus? Ra? El? I'm not fond of these archtypes, otherwise I'm really interested in this thread and the idea behind it.
 Quoting: einsteinsfly


Neither am I.

But the key that works will be used. (No, not Horus but Horus-on-the-Horizon, which comes in 2 parts. The second part will be revealed shortly and is the key.)
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hey, are you for real, because you totally did not answer what i said. lol and i actually understand what you are talking about, unlike the rest of the people in here.

however, the only way to successfully create a future reality for yourself is if you can mentally create a clear path that makes logical sense in your personal life experience. you cannot simply wish yourself to go to another planet, but you CAN focus your energy on getting an A on this next test, which will get you that scholarship, which will get you the job you want, etc....

its all about staying focused and letting the beings from the dream world be able to use their tools to manifest this reality for us. the more you doubt yourself, and put yourself down, the more alternate reality choices you create, which create a smaller probability function for the collapsed reality function. its actually in the quantum mechanical equations about super position and being able to entangle particles from infinite distances, and the fact that a particle cannot have its location determined unless it is observed, until it is observed by a human brain, the particle exists in infinite probabilities at once.

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