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BREAKING! Syria in civil war, says UN official Herve Ladsous

 
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BREAKING! Syria in civil war, says UN official Herve Ladsous
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Syria is now in a state of civil war and the government has lost control of "large chunks" of cities, the UN's head of peacekeeping has told reporters.

It is the first time a UN official has formally voiced that view.

His comments came as UN monitors in Syria were fired on as they tried to reach the besieged town of Haffa.

Meanwhile, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton accused Russia of supplying attack helicopters to the Syrian government.

She said the move would "escalate the conflict quite dramatically".

Russia maintains its arms shipments to Syria are unrelated to the conflict there.

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sfan


ahhh


Not like we didn't already know this though
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This is about to get interesting...
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This is about to get interesting...
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too interesting for my taste
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Re: BREAKING! Syria in civil war, says UN official Herve Ladsous
Well sorta... im about 90% sure that intervening in a civil war is illegal.


So i doubt NATO will get involved directly.
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Re: BREAKING! Syria in civil war, says UN official Herve Ladsous
So what else is new? The been in a civil war for a year now
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Well sorta... im about 90% sure that intervening in a civil war is illegal.


So i doubt NATO will get involved directly.
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Yeah, NATO will just arm the rebels. Unless Russia gets directly involved then they may step in.
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I saw a newspaper account of it... apparently civilians began storming the convoy and started throwing crap at it, forcing them to retreat
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Well sorta... im about 90% sure that intervening in a civil war is illegal.


So i doubt NATO will get involved directly.
 Quoting: Moist


Overthrowing a democratically elected government is illegal, the "rebels" are illegal, and the NATO assistance in the form of guns and meds is definitely illegal.

Nato doesn't care about illegal, it cares about plausible deniability.
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Well sorta... im about 90% sure that intervening in a civil war is illegal.


So i doubt NATO will get involved directly.
 Quoting: Moist


Yeah, NATO will just arm the rebels. Unless Russia gets directly involved then they may step in.
 Quoting: Cybermerc


Has done already. Fake humanitarian camps and aid have been set up and have been visited and observed as military camps.
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[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

Syria is now in a state of civil war and the government has lost control of "large chunks" of cities, the UN's head of peacekeeping has told reporters.

It is the first time a UN official has formally voiced that view.

His comments came as UN monitors in Syria were fired on as they tried to reach the besieged town of Haffa.

Meanwhile, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton accused Russia of supplying attack helicopters to the Syrian government.

She said the move would "escalate the conflict quite dramatically".

Russia maintains its arms shipments to Syria are unrelated to the conflict there.

 Quoting: [link to www.bbc.co.uk]

 Quoting: Cybermerc


Gee, since Hussein Obama took office, this seems to be an almost daily occurrence in the Mideast...

I'm sure this is just a normal civil uprising comprised of folks finally fed up with their current rulers though, and that it has absolutely no ties to the apparent moves of the "Muslim Brotherhood" to dominate the entire Middle East. No way possible....surely all that stuff in Egypt and Libya have no relationship at all to any of this.

I'm also absolutely positive that Obama is too busy playing golf and running our country to be involved in any possible underhanded/illegal regime changes overseas....No way he'd be tied up in anything other than what's best for America, right? I mean, he's been such a consummate advocate of Israel, capitalism, our American constitution, gun rights, the first amendment, the bible, etc., surely he wouldn't intentionally try to further such an illegal, immoral, and corrupt agenda....No way he'd do that!

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Re: BREAKING! Syria in civil war, says UN official Herve Ladsous
Well sorta... im about 90% sure that intervening in a civil war is illegal.


So i doubt NATO will get involved directly.
 Quoting: Moist


Yeah, NATO will just arm the rebels. Unless Russia gets directly involved then they may step in.
 Quoting: Cybermerc


Has done already. Fake humanitarian camps and aid have been set up and have been visited and observed as military camps.
 Quoting: Sonofabiscuit


True, though of course that doesn't mean it won't become something bigger, WW1 started as a war between austria and serbia after all.

As much as people say we shouldn't mettle in the affairs of syria, neither should russia.
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its been there for awhile...

at least they arent calling for assad to step down every 3 days for the last year anymore
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So if it's a civil war, an internal conflict, I don't see that the UN has any business trying to tip the scales. They should stay rigorously out and let the Syrians settle on who rules them.
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Well sorta... im about 90% sure that intervening in a civil war is illegal.


So i doubt NATO will get involved directly.
 Quoting: Moist


Overthrowing a democratically elected government is illegal, the "rebels" are illegal, and the NATO assistance in the form of guns and meds is definitely illegal.

Nato doesn't care about illegal, it cares about plausible deniability.
 Quoting: Sonofabiscuit


friends with binney, enemies with binney, friends with saddam, enemies with saddam, friends with godafie,enemie of him, see the pattern
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Re: BREAKING! Syria in civil war, says UN official Herve Ladsous
Well sorta... im about 90% sure that intervening in a civil war is illegal.


So i doubt NATO will get involved directly.
 Quoting: Moist


Overthrowing a democratically elected government is illegal, the "rebels" are illegal, and the NATO assistance in the form of guns and meds is definitely illegal.

Nato doesn't care about illegal, it cares about plausible deniability.
 Quoting: Sonofabiscuit


friends with binney, enemies with binney, friends with saddam, enemies with saddam, friends with godafie,enemie of him, see the pattern
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Yup I see it. We're aiding the Saudis in killing off all of the leaders of secular Arab states and turning them into Muslim Arab states.

Still haven't figured out what we get out of this bargain. It sure isn't cheap oil, utility and food prices.
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Re: BREAKING! Syria in civil war, says UN official Herve Ladsous
UN calls it a civil war simply because they want to play their next card... Arming the Muslim brotherhood... and so omit their own embargo...

Can someone tell me who in the UN said Syria is in civil war???

BTW what is happening now in SYRIA is a plot from the outside and is directed by the turks, for the restoration of their Ottoman empire... but that the rest of the world fails to see...
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UN calls it a civil war simply because they want to play their next card... Arming the Muslim brotherhood... and so omit their own embargo...

Can someone tell me who in the UN said Syria is in civil war???

BTW what is happening now in SYRIA is a plot from the outside and is directed by the turks, for the restoration of their Ottoman empire... but that the rest of the world fails to see...
 Quoting: Gogh


and a civil war would mean a war between civilians of that country ? not insurgents, the whole deals as fukd up as the rest of the planet.
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Came from a "UN official". Must be pure honesty.
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Well sorta... im about 90% sure that intervening in a civil war is illegal.


So i doubt NATO will get involved directly.
 Quoting: Moist


Overthrowing a democratically elected government is illegal, the "rebels" are illegal, and the NATO assistance in the form of guns and meds is definitely illegal.

Nato doesn't care about illegal, it cares about plausible deniability.
 Quoting: Sonofabiscuit


friends with binney, enemies with binney, friends with saddam, enemies with saddam, friends with godafie,enemie of him, see the pattern
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12924193


Yup I see it. We're aiding the Saudis in killing off all of the leaders of secular Arab states and turning them into Muslim Arab states.

Still haven't figured out what we get out of this bargain. It sure isn't cheap oil, utility and food prices.
 Quoting: Sonofabiscuit


the prize will be a good arse fu#$@ng, mark my words
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BTW what is happening now in SYRIA is a plot from the outside and is directed by the turks, for the restoration of their Ottoman empire... but that the rest of the world fails to see...
 Quoting: Gogh


You're referring to the "converts" and their new "temple"?

And this is Biblically written. Syria will be dust and rocks when this is over.
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BTW what is happening now in SYRIA is a plot from the outside and is directed by the turks, for the restoration of their Ottoman empire... but that the rest of the world fails to see...
 Quoting: Gogh


You're referring to the "converts" and their new "temple"?

And this is Biblically written. Syria will be dust and rocks when this is over.
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I am referring to the rise of the Turkmen and their new caliphate they want to install in Jerusalem... the great dream




this is written as the rise of the first Beast out of the seas...

Remember Biblical maps are fake, the true holy land is in the west and not in the east...
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Russia and China will/would block NATO intervention, but did anyone ever consider Arab League intervention?

If that happens, it will be WW3, as it will also bring Iran into the fray.
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Russia and China will/would block NATO intervention, but did anyone ever consider Arab League intervention?

If that happens, it will be WW3, as it will also bring Iran into the fray.
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Sorry, not that China and Russia hadn't done so already.
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Well sorta... im about 90% sure that intervening in a civil war is illegal.


So i doubt NATO will get involved directly.
 Quoting: Moist


Yeah, NATO will just arm the rebels. Unless Russia gets directly involved then they may step in.
 Quoting: Cybermerc


Has done already. Fake humanitarian camps and aid have been set up and have been visited and observed as military camps.
 Quoting: Sonofabiscuit


And Russia are sending Assad attack helicopters.
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