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Bluebird User ID: 730536 United States 07/06/2012 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm surprised he doesn't justs hunt down smokers and shoot them with his drones. . . Last Edited by Bluebird on 07/06/2012 07:32 PM One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
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boogyman42701 User ID: 13398935 United States 07/06/2012 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They're not shutting them down by design. They're closing tax loopholes. . Roll your owns still cause the same problems as regular tobacco. Make no mistake still big tabacco at work. Last Edited by boogyman42701 on 07/06/2012 07:40 PM |
HnryBwmn User ID: 18085374 United States 07/06/2012 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time to finally quit I geuss. I've been rolling my own for years. Started when I did turbine work on the East coast 4 1/2 years ago. Fuggin carton was $65....... Not only that but they had the friggen fire chemicals in the paper, tastes like shit (yes I know smells like shit, breath smells like shit etc etc). They raised price of big bags of $15 hand rolling tobacco I think last year by $10, became $25 for a bag, almost double. I started using pipe tobacco, longer cut, moister. Didn't get a tax increase on that, still $15. I use a halogen light to dry it out, crumble it till it's just right for rolling. Costs me about $25 a month. Instead of $40-$70 peer week for a carton. Last Edited by HnryBwmn on 07/06/2012 07:39 PM You can educate the ignorant, but you can't fix stupid! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18918892 United States 07/06/2012 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time to finally quit I geuss. I've been rolling my own for years. Started when I did turbine work on the East coast 4 1/2 years ago. Fuggin carton was $65....... Quoting: HnryBwmn Not only that but they had the friggen fire chemicals in the paper, tastes like shit (yes I know smells like shit, breath smells like shit etc etc). They raised price of big bags of $15 hand rolling tobacco I think last year by $10, became $25 for a bag, almost double. I started using pipe tobacco, longer cut, moister. Didn't get a tax increase on that, still $15. I use a halogen light to dry it out, crumble it till it's just right for rolling. Costs me about $25 a month. Instead of $40-$70 peer week for a carton. There are a lot of roll your own tobaccos with a Pipe Tobacco label. They actually fit in the tubes better than a shorter cut. |
HnryBwmn User ID: 18085374 United States 07/06/2012 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They're not shutting them down by design. They're closing tax loopholes. L2R. Roll your owns still cause the same problems as regular tobacco. Make no mistake still big tabacco at work. Quoting: boogyman42701 I'll close a tax loophole, I'll grow my own. And make my own fuel. Grow my own food. Outlaw it? Sure, come on out and try to enforce it. Bring lots of help, we want your gear. You can educate the ignorant, but you can't fix stupid! |
boogyman42701 User ID: 13398935 United States 07/06/2012 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time to finally quit I geuss. I've been rolling my own for years. Started when I did turbine work on the East coast 4 1/2 years ago. Fuggin carton was $65....... Quoting: HnryBwmn Not only that but they had the friggen fire chemicals in the paper, tastes like shit (yes I know smells like shit, breath smells like shit etc etc). They raised price of big bags of $15 hand rolling tobacco I think last year by $10, became $25 for a bag, almost double. I started using pipe tobacco, longer cut, moister. Didn't get a tax increase on that, still $15. I use a halogen light to dry it out, crumble it till it's just right for rolling. Costs me about $25 a month. Instead of $40-$70 peer week for a carton. Special blend Marlboros are 35$ a carton here after tax. But if I read it right, it just taxes the machines. You can still buy loose tabacco and roll your own by hand. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 8769940 United States 07/06/2012 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My aunt rolls her own since she can't afford the Big Tobacco brands. Guess she'll have to switch to the e-smokes or finally quit. When I smoked, I smoked Camels. Didn't quit for health reasons or because I stopped loving my cigs - I quit because at $7/pack, I simply couldn't afford them. I miss my smokes sometimes, but I'm glad I kicked it - can't smoke anywhere but your own car/yard nowadays anyway. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18338559 United States 07/06/2012 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They're not shutting them down by design. They're closing tax loopholes. L2R. Roll your owns still cause the same problems as regular tobacco. Make no mistake still big tabacco at work. Quoting: boogyman42701 I'll close a tax loophole, I'll grow my own. And make my own fuel. Grow my own food. Outlaw it? Sure, come on out and try to enforce it. Bring lots of help, we want your gear. Exactly! |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 8769940 United States 07/06/2012 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the article: State and local governments have been trying to close the loophole as well, with Cook County raising taxes on RYO cigs in March and Illinois increasing the taxes on them last month, when the state sharply raised taxes on all tobacco products to help fund Medicaid. Starting Aug. 1, cigarettes made by RYO machines in Illinois stores will be taxed the same amount as company-manufactured cigarettes, and retail owners of the machines have to get a machine-operator license. How very interesting. |
THEVOICE User ID: 1267719 United States 07/06/2012 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On Friday, President Barack Obama is expected to sign into law a federal highway bill with a section that redefines tobacco manufacturers to include any business with a roll-your-own cigarette machine and taxes those products at the same rate as packaged smokes. Quoting: Jessica Hell Source: [link to www.suntimes.com] Those people at it again. |
boogyman42701 User ID: 13398935 United States 07/06/2012 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the article: Quoting: Jessica Hell State and local governments have been trying to close the loophole as well, with Cook County raising taxes on RYO cigs in March and Illinois increasing the taxes on them last month, when the state sharply raised taxes on all tobacco products to help fund Medicaid. Starting Aug. 1, cigarettes made by RYO machines in Illinois stores will be taxed the same amount as company-manufactured cigarettes, and retail owners of the machines have to get a machine-operator license. How very interesting. Like you said, cigarettes made by roll your own machines. Let's just hope big companies don't raise their prices tho. Tax payers gotta pay for smokers' habits. Hell I smoke and think this should be implemented. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18338559 United States 07/06/2012 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the article: Quoting: Jessica Hell State and local governments have been trying to close the loophole as well, with Cook County raising taxes on RYO cigs in March and Illinois increasing the taxes on them last month, when the state sharply raised taxes on all tobacco products to help fund Medicaid. Starting Aug. 1, cigarettes made by RYO machines in Illinois stores will be taxed the same amount as company-manufactured cigarettes, and retail owners of the machines have to get a machine-operator license. How very interesting. According to other sources, shops will close at midnight tonight - so more local regulation or taxes are moot... |
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chris999 User ID: 18723832 United States 07/06/2012 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time to finally quit I geuss. I've been rolling my own for years. Started when I did turbine work on the East coast 4 1/2 years ago. Fuggin carton was $65....... Quoting: HnryBwmn Not only that but they had the friggen fire chemicals in the paper, tastes like shit (yes I know smells like shit, breath smells like shit etc etc). They raised price of big bags of $15 hand rolling tobacco I think last year by $10, became $25 for a bag, almost double. I started using pipe tobacco, longer cut, moister. Didn't get a tax increase on that, still $15. I use a halogen light to dry it out, crumble it till it's just right for rolling. Costs me about $25 a month. Instead of $40-$70 peer week for a carton. I quit 3 days ago. I'm ready to fucking kill somebody, but I did it as a birthday present to myself. I dont mean everything I say to be literal. I just like to throw around ideas, and play devil's advocate. I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. -Galileo Galilei |
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chris999 User ID: 18723832 United States 07/06/2012 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just so you guys know, due to socialized medicine, tobacco and anything else that the DHS deems hazardous to health will all be banned soon. I dont mean everything I say to be literal. I just like to throw around ideas, and play devil's advocate. I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. -Galileo Galilei |
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