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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19059919 United States 07/15/2012 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | However I have a pop up camper that sleeps 12, has all the necessities (2 stoves, fridge, bathroom, ac and heat, dinette, 3 bedrooms) all in 1. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 846701 United States 07/15/2012 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DIY home for less than $3500 In a town where the median home price is over half a million dollars, Jenine Alexander decided to build her own. Using resources like the tiny house blogs and the 1950 bestselling DIY book "Your Dream Home: How to Build It for Less Than $3,500" (a gift from a friend), Jenine spent less than $3,500 on her home. In fact, she used nearly only materials recovered from the dump or found on craigslist and the only things she paid for were a used trailer and fasteners (nails, screws, hinges, etc). She built it on wheels not just to get around minimum size standards, but mostly because she couldn't afford land in her hometown of Healdsburg, California. [link to faircompanies.com] I just bought a used copy of this book from Amazon.com for 33 cents. [link to www.amazon.com] Add a little more and you can have a nice full home for less than $20,000. Yes, that's your actual price for those crappy wooden homes those big developers build with illegal workers and sell for $500,000. Even better, use steel construction, just as cheap. |
Sungaze_At_Dawn User ID: 1458670 Canada 07/15/2012 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Talk about capitilizing on what should only be here in this hellzone monied system for the homeless. This idea of homes on wheels to me, and I write about this example, for communities to donate land and to get under the ordinances that wont allow multi homes, so you build homes on wheels. His ones costs 20 000, new wood and all that. They can be made with paper crete. Ie. paper mache and sand/mineral slurries with long fibred hemp put in, and recycled thigns for far far less, like say 5 000 a piece or even less. But this isn't the future for humanity. Apartments and towhouses need their cost and rent/payments lowered to 1/3 of income with utilities period period period, and to made 2-3 times bigger with green houses for everyone as extra on top of that, and nothing should be higher than 2 or 3 stories and I prefer one level. There is land on earth for everyone to have farms. Last Edited by Sungaze_At_Dawn on 07/15/2012 03:47 PM The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17090286 United States 07/15/2012 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cool. So the future is gonna be we're living in shoeboxes, basically. Quoting: Charlie the Choo-Choo this was my first thought while those at the forefront of this 'tiny house' movement appear to be snubbing TPTB, this is what the TPTB want for everyone. all crammed in, taking up as little space as possible. very agenda 21 i couldnt live in such a tiny space, squashed in like a battery human curious stuff though! Oh you mean squished like old buildings/housing in europe is? I dunno seems like they been living fine for a thousand years+.... maybe they are on to something? More like capsules containing only a thin mattress and limited belongings. |
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Lester User ID: 1014121 United States 07/15/2012 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lots you can do on the cheap. I don't get the tiny-house on wheels thing. Not like you can move it without a decent 3/4 or one ton truck. The trailer frame with axles weigh probably 1500 lbs or a ton; then you have your structure. If your using dimensional lumber like conventional stick framing, the weight is a killer and no single axle trailer is gonna take more than 4 or 5 thousand pounds total weight. Pretty damn cheap to buy a repoed mobile home, leave the wheels attached and renovate at your leisure. Guess you skip the taxes that way or maybe mobiles are taxed? Unless you just pine for the Fine Homebuilding touches in your living space, seems the best option if being On Wheels is your goal is to acquire and renovate an older motorhome or RV like a van conversion or class C rig. The one-ton van chassis rigs with 28' RV bodies and over-cab sleeper offer a lot of room and they are ALWAYS ready to move. Look at Craigslist, Ebay, Auto-Trader, Greensheet, Thrifty Nickel and you'll find lots of one-owner Class C or older motorhomes for sale cheap. Usually, the retirees have kept up the maintenance on their rigs and health issues force them to give up their use. Talking several thousand bucks for a mid-90s era gasoline Class C or van conversion. Probably can find a low mileage diesel motorhome for around $15K. Propane appliances, generator, usually sleeping for 6 to 8, with dinette and couch plus full size bed and bathroom. Lots more practical... No septic system or electric service drop to have to arrange. No water worries. Not like you can trailer your little house to the RV septic dump site, or go to town everytime you want to top off your water. Gets really old hauling water. With your RV though it is very easy to drive to accomplish these things. Pretty easy to use an RV as a modular component for outdoor living. Tarps or awnings can be rigged and you can pull a trailer with other gear like maybe a Yurt and flooring setup. For the money and versatility, it is impossible to beat a used RV. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19819801 United States 07/15/2012 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Probably can find a low mileage diesel motorhome for around $15K. Quoting: Lester 1014121 Propane appliances, generator, usually sleeping for 6 to 8, with dinette and couch plus full size bed and bathroom. Hmmm. Sounds bigger than my apartment. Not that I care about my living quarters really but being mobile might be kind of fun. |
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Isis7 User ID: 19498336 United States 07/15/2012 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My thinking is that setting up a camp for single adults with something of this nature, like the one room houses I remember as a child (we won't get into when that was... hmm) But, I could see a decent set up with community garden and everyone pitching in to help. And buildings for storage, activities, etc. I just think lots of individuals would be interested if word got out about a community of this sort. |
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Sungaze_At_Dawn User ID: 1458670 Canada 07/15/2012 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is about 4-5 times bigger than these! What I've always thought was possible to escape renting, if you're not rich, is to replace vehicles second hand trucks and build your own paper crete hemp home on wheels, several trucks several homes for a family, over a few years. Lease some land, to live on and then buy some land, and gradually work up to the earthship home level, but you'd have legal homes and cabins. Anything on wheels is temporary. The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 846701 United States 07/15/2012 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is about 4-5 times bigger than these! What I've always thought was possible to escape renting, if you're not rich, is to replace vehicles second hand trucks and build your own paper crete hemp home on wheels, several trucks several homes for a family, over a few years. Lease some land, to live on and then buy some land, and gradually work up to the earthship home level, but you'd have legal homes and cabins. Anything on wheels is temporary. Why even bother with that? For the same price you could build a permanent home that's pretty reasonable in size. |
Vision Thing User ID: 19727719 United States 07/15/2012 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been living in 400 sq ft for the last 11 years, it's a challenge but I like it. I know a couple who live in a 160 sq ft house on wheels that they built and they are starting a business designing and building tiny houses. I think there is a lot of demand for small, affordable housing, not just for college students but for older people living alone, also for people who move around a lot, or people who want to keep an apartment or cabin as a small getaway either in the city or the country. The cost of shelter has about quadrupled in my adult life, while wages have stagnated, it's just reality, and people need more choices. I think one thing that is lacking in the range of housing choices right now is variety. People have different needs, not all are couples living an ordinary common life with a living room, dinette, and little kids, like houses tend to be designed for. There are a lot of people who would like more unusual housing than just an overpriced one bedroom apartment or cookie cutter rambler (or townhome development, god forbid). A lot of people would love to have a big workshop with minimal sleeping, cooking and bathing arrangements. I know I would. |
Isis7 User ID: 19498336 United States 07/15/2012 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now, that I highly doubt will happen, there are many wealthy persons traveling for business and pleasure. Lots prefer to have their own accommodations rather than stay in a motel where multiple persons have stayed (never know what you might get exposed to), plus it offers more privacy. This is one avenue they might just overlook (for personal reasons). Last Edited by Isis7 on 07/15/2012 06:52 PM |
Vision Thing User ID: 19727719 United States 07/15/2012 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lester was talking about RVs, one option for RV living that seems really attractive to me is if you had a large garage type space, just raw space, that you could park the RV in, and use the kitchen and bathroom of the RV, then you would have a large workshop and also better security. One thing that bothers me about RVs they don't seem very secure as far as the doors/windows? They seem like they'd be easy to break into? Maybe I'm wrong about that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19819801 United States 07/15/2012 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lester was talking about RVs, one option for RV living that seems really attractive to me is if you had a large garage type space, just raw space, that you could park the RV in, and use the kitchen and bathroom of the RV, then you would have a large workshop and also better security. Quoting: Vision Thing One thing that bothers me about RVs they don't seem very secure as far as the doors/windows? They seem like they'd be easy to break into? Maybe I'm wrong about that. I was just thinking about that too. I'm sure there are some security systems geared to them. I'm actually thinking about this now LOL. If I didn't have a job I like I'd probably do it. |
Isis7 User ID: 19498336 United States 07/15/2012 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lester was talking about RVs, one option for RV living that seems really attractive to me is if you had a large garage type space, just raw space, that you could park the RV in, and use the kitchen and bathroom of the RV, then you would have a large workshop and also better security. Quoting: Vision Thing One thing that bothers me about RVs they don't seem very secure as far as the doors/windows? They seem like they'd be easy to break into? Maybe I'm wrong about that. They are as secure as regular homes, I've have a few over the years, each of these I resided in well over a year up to several years. The last one, was my parent's and my father had installed a double security lock. I would still be in it if my daughter hadn't mistaken why I had double pneumonia (caused by radiation treatment, not because the mobile wouldn't heat enough during winter. That is where I lived when I went into the hospital during Christmas and New Years holidays, but came home to a seniors apartment when released. I was to weak to do anything and they didn't expect me to survive it. Oh well.) But, none were ever broken into, can't say the same for a regular home. lol |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19742433 United States 07/15/2012 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cool. So the future is gonna be we're living in shoeboxes, basically. Quoting: Charlie the Choo-Choo this was my first thought while those at the forefront of this 'tiny house' movement appear to be snubbing TPTB, this is what the TPTB want for everyone. all crammed in, taking up as little space as possible. very agenda 21 i couldnt live in such a tiny space, squashed in like a battery human curious stuff though! This was my first thought as well......after all of these years, we've "progressed" to the point of poverty and living like rats in these tiny mazes. That's real progress for you. I'd take a 1700's colonial house any day over this nonesense any day. This isn't progress at all. This is going backwards. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19742433 United States 07/15/2012 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lester was talking about RVs, one option for RV living that seems really attractive to me is if you had a large garage type space, just raw space, that you could park the RV in, and use the kitchen and bathroom of the RV, then you would have a large workshop and also better security. Quoting: Vision Thing One thing that bothers me about RVs they don't seem very secure as far as the doors/windows? They seem like they'd be easy to break into? Maybe I'm wrong about that. They are as secure as regular homes, I've have a few over the years, each of these I resided in well over a year up to several years. The last one, was my parent's and my father had installed a double security lock. I would still be in it if my daughter hadn't mistaken why I had double pneumonia (caused by radiation treatment, not because the mobile wouldn't heat enough during winter. That is where I lived when I went into the hospital during Christmas and New Years holidays, but came home to a seniors apartment when released. I was to weak to do anything and they didn't expect me to survive it. Oh well.) But, none were ever broken into, can't say the same for a regular home. lol Hehhe....you'd think "secure" when you wake up one night to find that you're being towed down the highway at 70 mph behind an F350! |
Isis7 User ID: 19498336 United States 07/15/2012 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seriously, I started with a RV fully loaded, it was great for long journeys to hospitals, and if I got ill while traveling, I could rest anywhere until I was able to resume the trip. I would park in the back of the parking area at the hospitals, and the security guards were great to keep an eye out for me, I also did this with the motor home (just waited to empty when it was convenient/ when I could get family members to take time to assist me). Guess I'm a gypsy at heart. I took my grandchildren each summer on weekend outings and we did hiking and rock hunting and had camp fires. Such wonderful memories of those times. We hunted for just the right wood, and made walking sticks that we purchased mementos to apply each area we visited. Mine has quite a few. lol |
Isis7 User ID: 19498336 United States 07/15/2012 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lester was talking about RVs, one option for RV living that seems really attractive to me is if you had a large garage type space, just raw space, that you could park the RV in, and use the kitchen and bathroom of the RV, then you would have a large workshop and also better security. Quoting: Vision Thing One thing that bothers me about RVs they don't seem very secure as far as the doors/windows? They seem like they'd be easy to break into? Maybe I'm wrong about that. They are as secure as regular homes, I've have a few over the years, each of these I resided in well over a year up to several years. The last one, was my parent's and my father had installed a double security lock. I would still be in it if my daughter hadn't mistaken why I had double pneumonia (caused by radiation treatment, not because the mobile wouldn't heat enough during winter. That is where I lived when I went into the hospital during Christmas and New Years holidays, but came home to a seniors apartment when released. I was to weak to do anything and they didn't expect me to survive it. Oh well.) But, none were ever broken into, can't say the same for a regular home. lol Hehhe....you'd think "secure" when you wake up one night to find that you're being towed down the highway at 70 mph behind an F350! You obviously haven't set up one to stabilize it. Not only do you use the tripod jacks, but the motor homes come with them and they can be a royal pain to replace if you forget about them and try to move and bend even one. They aren't cheap either. Only did that once cause I took someone's word who help unblock it to be moved. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19742433 United States 07/15/2012 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What a great way to face the future. Less bills, less demand and less consumerism. Absolutely fantastic. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19490298 Absolutely fantastic for that class that wants to live big and force you to live like slaves that you might spend less on yourselves, and appoint more money for their "austerity" programs they have in store for you... What's to celebrate about becoming more poor and destitute? When you see Ben Bernanke doing this shit, I might listen to your types.....but until then..... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19742433 United States 07/15/2012 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lester was talking about RVs, one option for RV living that seems really attractive to me is if you had a large garage type space, just raw space, that you could park the RV in, and use the kitchen and bathroom of the RV, then you would have a large workshop and also better security. Quoting: Vision Thing One thing that bothers me about RVs they don't seem very secure as far as the doors/windows? They seem like they'd be easy to break into? Maybe I'm wrong about that. They are as secure as regular homes, I've have a few over the years, each of these I resided in well over a year up to several years. The last one, was my parent's and my father had installed a double security lock. I would still be in it if my daughter hadn't mistaken why I had double pneumonia (caused by radiation treatment, not because the mobile wouldn't heat enough during winter. That is where I lived when I went into the hospital during Christmas and New Years holidays, but came home to a seniors apartment when released. I was to weak to do anything and they didn't expect me to survive it. Oh well.) But, none were ever broken into, can't say the same for a regular home. lol Hehhe....you'd think "secure" when you wake up one night to find that you're being towed down the highway at 70 mph behind an F350! You obviously haven't set up one to stabilize it. Not only do you use the tripod jacks, but the motor homes come with them and they can be a royal pain to replace if you forget about them and try to move and bend even one. They aren't cheap either. Only did that once cause I took someone's word who help unblock it to be moved. LOL! NO, I have not set one up, but maybe you should correct your statement and say something along the lines of: They are just as secure as a regular house, even if you're being towed down the highway at 70 mph behind an F350 with a lift kit that cleared your tripod jacks? Just having some fun...LOL! |