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i still flicker as to is it sado erotic or sado masochistic
it is certainly pleasure derived from pain

probably it is both which each believer biasing towards one of the two
 Quoting: aether


It seems to me it is a result of the societal system

Earlier I was discussing with a friend the motive for the building of the pyramids

It brought no weight to the discussion to mention the necessary sorry state of humanity for us to allow ourselves to toil away

Forever, and to an essentially worthless end

It seems natural for us to want the controllers good and dead

We have reached a point where we are too weakened by our oppressors

But one big natural disaster and allegiance will be 0%
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Funny that everyone seems to ascribe slavery to the pyramids rather than putting community over ones self.

Also, Most do not realize that today's vision of slavery was not the original model as slaves became citizens as they showed worth.

Todays version of slavery came to us via the semitic traders.
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hmm

I used the conjecture "A giant rock in the middle of the F-ing desert" several times in the mentioned discussion

The crux of my argument was centered around the obscene, almost vindictive uselessness of pyramids

But 'slaves were different back then' was a point left un-made

Sounds a little like the offspring of communism and pyramid power structures
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Which form of communism? In Canada we live under a centrally delegated social democracy with a redistribution model. Previously I lived under a system which rewarded both it's most brazen criminals and it's mirror, those with socially acceptable talents.

The only difference I see with capitalism is in title and overt quality of propaganda.
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i still flicker as to is it sado erotic or sado masochistic
it is certainly pleasure derived from pain

probably it is both which each believer biasing towards one of the two
 Quoting: aether


It seems to me it is a result of the societal system

Earlier I was discussing with a friend the motive for the building of the pyramids

It brought no weight to the discussion to mention the necessary sorry state of humanity for us to allow ourselves to toil away

Forever, and to an essentially worthless end

It seems natural for us to want the controllers good and dead

We have reached a point where we are too weakened by our oppressors

But one big natural disaster and allegiance will be 0%
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Funny that everyone seems to ascribe slavery to the pyramids rather than putting community over ones self.

Also, Most do not realize that today's vision of slavery was not the original model as slaves became citizens as they showed worth.

Todays version of slavery came to us via the semitic traders.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39902384


hmm

I used the conjecture "A giant rock in the middle of the F-ing desert" several times in the mentioned discussion

The crux of my argument was centered around the obscene, almost vindictive uselessness of pyramids

But 'slaves were different back then' was a point left un-made

Sounds a little like the offspring of communism and pyramid power structures
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Which form of communism? In Canada we live under a centrally delegated social democracy with a redistribution model. Previously I lived under a system which rewarded both it's most brazen criminals and it's mirror, those with socially acceptable talents.

The only difference I see with capitalism is in title and overt quality of propaganda.
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i still flicker as to is it sado erotic or sado masochistic
it is certainly pleasure derived from pain

probably it is both which each believer biasing towards one of the two
 Quoting: aether


It seems to me it is a result of the societal system

Earlier I was discussing with a friend the motive for the building of the pyramids

It brought no weight to the discussion to mention the necessary sorry state of humanity for us to allow ourselves to toil away

Forever, and to an essentially worthless end

It seems natural for us to want the controllers good and dead

We have reached a point where we are too weakened by our oppressors

But one big natural disaster and allegiance will be 0%
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Funny that everyone seems to ascribe slavery to the pyramids rather than putting community over ones self.

Also, Most do not realize that today's vision of slavery was not the original model as slaves became citizens as they showed worth.

Todays version of slavery came to us via the semitic traders.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39902384


hmm

I used the conjecture "A giant rock in the middle of the F-ing desert" several times in the mentioned discussion

The crux of my argument was centered around the obscene, almost vindictive uselessness of pyramids

But 'slaves were different back then' was a point left un-made

Sounds a little like the offspring of communism and pyramid power structures
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


we do not possess evidence of slaves with pyramids
we have the opposite

all records show the local population doing nothing connected to pyramid construction on scale that fits
and
no records at all of how they were built
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Having seen clear references to the Internet in visions that were FAR from normal consciousness, I can vouch for this idea.

What was the first structure made by any animal?

I'd be willing to bet it was a spider's web....
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


The cell of course. We re create that which we are; Even if we are not aware of it.

It makes the task simpler.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39902384


hmm

Interesting angle, and thought provoking

The hand-craft aspect was my point however
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Unless we recreate something we have seen. We turn to the blind eye of intuitive action to manifest form.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39902384


I wonder when the spider first saw the web

Could you imagine?

A few defective follicles on the rear, and what follows:

Thought; invention; but first of all, Reflection.

One cannot ascribe this aspect of development to 'instinct' because there was necessarily a single individual who crossed the line first

But is human instinct to build?

One would think if we could build silk houses and furniture with a nearly inexhaustible free source of material, we would do that instead.....
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It seems to me it is a result of the societal system

Earlier I was discussing with a friend the motive for the building of the pyramids

It brought no weight to the discussion to mention the necessary sorry state of humanity for us to allow ourselves to toil away

Forever, and to an essentially worthless end

It seems natural for us to want the controllers good and dead

We have reached a point where we are too weakened by our oppressors

But one big natural disaster and allegiance will be 0%
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Funny that everyone seems to ascribe slavery to the pyramids rather than putting community over ones self.

Also, Most do not realize that today's vision of slavery was not the original model as slaves became citizens as they showed worth.

Todays version of slavery came to us via the semitic traders.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39902384


hmm

I used the conjecture "A giant rock in the middle of the F-ing desert" several times in the mentioned discussion

The crux of my argument was centered around the obscene, almost vindictive uselessness of pyramids

But 'slaves were different back then' was a point left un-made

Sounds a little like the offspring of communism and pyramid power structures
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Which form of communism? In Canada we live under a centrally delegated social democracy with a redistribution model. Previously I lived under a system which rewarded both it's most brazen criminals and it's mirror, those with socially acceptable talents.

The only difference I see with capitalism is in title and overt quality of propaganda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39902384


You forgot the freefall

I mean....

....freedom?

....

Yes, I meant to say 'freedom'.
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It seems to me it is a result of the societal system

Earlier I was discussing with a friend the motive for the building of the pyramids

It brought no weight to the discussion to mention the necessary sorry state of humanity for us to allow ourselves to toil away

Forever, and to an essentially worthless end

It seems natural for us to want the controllers good and dead

We have reached a point where we are too weakened by our oppressors

But one big natural disaster and allegiance will be 0%
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Funny that everyone seems to ascribe slavery to the pyramids rather than putting community over ones self.

Also, Most do not realize that today's vision of slavery was not the original model as slaves became citizens as they showed worth.

Todays version of slavery came to us via the semitic traders.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39902384


hmm

I used the conjecture "A giant rock in the middle of the F-ing desert" several times in the mentioned discussion

The crux of my argument was centered around the obscene, almost vindictive uselessness of pyramids

But 'slaves were different back then' was a point left un-made

Sounds a little like the offspring of communism and pyramid power structures
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


we do not possess evidence of slaves with pyramids
we have the opposite

all records show the local population doing nothing connected to pyramid construction on scale that fits
and
no records at all of how they were built
 Quoting: aether


I am glad you pointed this out.

I held this belief as well but was 'given the business'

Which, for this particular person and many others in my age group, equals a series of 'argument from authority' logical fallacies

rolleyes

Which is why I switched the conversation to 'motive'.
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Something tells me Bowman is right. Time is not a line. It repeats itself because we spiral around and around in an overall corkscrew??? fashion thru space arriving at near same points over time. The energies of the planets/stars/sun/moon "imprint" different energies into/onto or make up the matrix/hologram at that junction of space per se. I'm just throwing this out there. I don't know the science behind it but it's what I envision is happening based on what has been measured with history (repeating itself) and astrology (repeating itself) and what orbital models show (spiraling around and around.)
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Thread: Our Spiral System
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"I've never heard roar like that before..."

coming from the mouth of a chaser who deals with tornadoes. truly humbling, seeing sights like these.
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 Quoting: Seer777


This occurred exactly 3 days after I posted this.

Thread: Dawn of a New Day - Return of the Capstone
Watchers embodied in an on-looking owl frozen without perceived movement, it glowering above states of false freedom, four pinnings of four disasters. Gulf Oil Spill. Hurricane Sandy. Hurricane Katrina. And lastly a pin of unnatural terror stabbing a Home of The Oak and City.
 Quoting: Septenary Man
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"I've never heard roar like that before..."

coming from the mouth of a chaser who deals with tornadoes. truly humbling, seeing sights like these.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38488585

 Quoting: Seer777


This occurred exactly 3 days after I posted this.

Thread: Dawn of a New Day - Return of the Capstone
Watchers embodied in an on-looking owl frozen without perceived movement, it glowering above states of false freedom, four pinnings of four disasters. Gulf Oil Spill. Hurricane Sandy. Hurricane Katrina. And lastly a pin of unnatural terror stabbing a Home of The Oak and City.
 Quoting: Septenary Man

 Quoting: Septenary Man


Interesting

I have been going through some spiritual development the last few days

HORRENDOUSLY uncomfortable, unlike most developmental periods I remember
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And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him:
and he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,

Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.....
My rest is a weapon against the oppression of mans obsession to control things;
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"I've never heard roar like that before..."

coming from the mouth of a chaser who deals with tornadoes. truly humbling, seeing sights like these.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38488585

 Quoting: Seer777


This occurred exactly 3 days after I posted this.

Thread: Dawn of a New Day - Return of the Capstone
Watchers embodied in an on-looking owl frozen without perceived movement, it glowering above states of false freedom, four pinnings of four disasters. Gulf Oil Spill. Hurricane Sandy. Hurricane Katrina. And lastly a pin of unnatural terror stabbing a Home of The Oak and City.
 Quoting: Septenary Man

 Quoting: Septenary Man


Interesting

I have been going through some spiritual development the last few days

HORRENDOUSLY uncomfortable, unlike most developmental periods I remember
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


I go through periods of that. I just try and shove may way through them as if wading through quicksand to get to the other side of it.
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The cell of course. We re create that which we are; Even if we are not aware of it.

It makes the task simpler.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39902384


hmm

Interesting angle, and thought provoking

The hand-craft aspect was my point however
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Unless we recreate something we have seen. We turn to the blind eye of intuitive action to manifest form.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39902384


I wonder when the spider first saw the web

Could you imagine?

A few defective follicles on the rear, and what follows:

Thought; invention; but first of all, Reflection.

One cannot ascribe this aspect of development to 'instinct' because there was necessarily a single individual who crossed the line first

But is human instinct to build?

One would think if we could build silk houses and furniture with a nearly inexhaustible free source of material, we would do that instead.....
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Single individual? What is the engine for paralell evolution of like ideas in mutually isolated locales?

Nothing is created; At best it is borrowed.
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Funny that everyone seems to ascribe slavery to the pyramids rather than putting community over ones self.

Also, Most do not realize that today's vision of slavery was not the original model as slaves became citizens as they showed worth.

Todays version of slavery came to us via the semitic traders.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39902384


hmm

I used the conjecture "A giant rock in the middle of the F-ing desert" several times in the mentioned discussion

The crux of my argument was centered around the obscene, almost vindictive uselessness of pyramids

But 'slaves were different back then' was a point left un-made

Sounds a little like the offspring of communism and pyramid power structures
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Which form of communism? In Canada we live under a centrally delegated social democracy with a redistribution model. Previously I lived under a system which rewarded both it's most brazen criminals and it's mirror, those with socially acceptable talents.

The only difference I see with capitalism is in title and overt quality of propaganda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39902384


You forgot the freefall

I mean....

....freedom?

....

Yes, I meant to say 'freedom'.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


What is freedom but the right to practice the repugnant alongside the seemingly prudent?.

Many can only grow by trying to destroy themselves.
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 Quoting: Seer777


This occurred exactly 3 days after I posted this.

Thread: Dawn of a New Day - Return of the Capstone
Watchers embodied in an on-looking owl frozen without perceived movement, it glowering above states of false freedom, four pinnings of four disasters. Gulf Oil Spill. Hurricane Sandy. Hurricane Katrina. And lastly a pin of unnatural terror stabbing a Home of The Oak and City.
 Quoting: Septenary Man

 Quoting: Septenary Man


Interesting

I have been going through some spiritual development the last few days

HORRENDOUSLY uncomfortable, unlike most developmental periods I remember
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


I go through periods of that. I just try and shove may way through them as if wading through quicksand to get to the other side of it.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Less periods, more german beer!
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Something tells me Bowman is right. Time is not a line. It repeats itself because we spiral around and around in an overall corkscrew??? fashion thru space arriving at near same points over time. The energies of the planets/stars/sun/moon "imprint" different energies into/onto or make up the matrix/hologram at that junction of space per se. I'm just throwing this out there. I don't know the science behind it but it's what I envision is happening based on what has been measured with history (repeating itself) and astrology (repeating itself) and what orbital models show (spiraling around and around.)
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 Quoting: aether


Thread: Our Spiral System
 Quoting: Septenary Man


good morning

which leads to another topic
our environmental changes prompts , denser charge, prompts emotional response in all
to varying degrees
each persons response is into the environment that prompted it
thus feedback
now
our environment is motivated thus there is motive in all it does including the prompt it gives us
our response is risk assessed naturally as in:
how we express ourselves dictates the ongoing responses we experience from our environment
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hmm

I used the conjecture "A giant rock in the middle of the F-ing desert" several times in the mentioned discussion

The crux of my argument was centered around the obscene, almost vindictive uselessness of pyramids

But 'slaves were different back then' was a point left un-made

Sounds a little like the offspring of communism and pyramid power structures
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Which form of communism? In Canada we live under a centrally delegated social democracy with a redistribution model. Previously I lived under a system which rewarded both it's most brazen criminals and it's mirror, those with socially acceptable talents.

The only difference I see with capitalism is in title and overt quality of propaganda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39902384


You forgot the freefall

I mean....

....freedom?

....

Yes, I meant to say 'freedom'.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


What is freedom but the right to practice the repugnant alongside the seemingly prudent?.

Many can only grow by trying to destroy themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39902384


Not all laws are to prevent the practice of the repugnant. Many are the abuse of power, and for financial needs.

The concept of freedom has been so abused to the point that many do not understand what 'freedom' really is. It has become (probably all it ever has been) propaganda for governments delivering a false hope to manage citizens.
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I wonder when the spider first saw the web

Could you imagine?

A few defective follicles on the rear, and what follows:

Thought; invention; but first of all, Reflection.

One cannot ascribe this aspect of development to 'instinct' because there was necessarily a single individual who crossed the line first

But is human instinct to build?

One would think if we could build silk houses and furniture with a nearly inexhaustible free source of material, we would do that instead.....
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Single individual? What is the engine for paralell evolution of like ideas in mutually isolated locales?

Nothing is created; At best it is borrowed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39902384


But isn't the effectiveness of a trap only discovered post creation?

It begs the question of exactly which use was discovered first

Perhaps the dandelion-seed-like 'parachute' strands are the most plausible

Perhaps one day a small insect struck the line of a spider in flight, becoming entangled
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This occurred exactly 3 days after I posted this.

Thread: Dawn of a New Day - Return of the Capstone
...

 Quoting: Septenary Man


Interesting

I have been going through some spiritual development the last few days

HORRENDOUSLY uncomfortable, unlike most developmental periods I remember
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


I go through periods of that. I just try and shove may way through them as if wading through quicksand to get to the other side of it.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Less periods, more german beer!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39902384


:yes:
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Something tells me Bowman is right. Time is not a line. It repeats itself because we spiral around and around in an overall corkscrew??? fashion thru space arriving at near same points over time. The energies of the planets/stars/sun/moon "imprint" different energies into/onto or make up the matrix/hologram at that junction of space per se. I'm just throwing this out there. I don't know the science behind it but it's what I envision is happening based on what has been measured with history (repeating itself) and astrology (repeating itself) and what orbital models show (spiraling around and around.)
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 Quoting: aether


Thread: Our Spiral System
 Quoting: Septenary Man


good morning

which leads to another topic
our environmental changes prompts , denser charge, prompts emotional response in all
to varying degrees
each persons response is into the environment that prompted it
thus feedback
now
our environment is motivated thus there is motive in all it does including the prompt it gives us
our response is risk assessed naturally as in:
how we express ourselves dictates the ongoing responses we experience from our environment
 Quoting: aether


Good morning. Yes, I can sense that.
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good morning

which leads to another topic
our environmental changes prompts , denser charge, prompts emotional response in all
to varying degrees
each persons response is into the environment that prompted it
thus feedback
now
our environment is motivated thus there is motive in all it does including the prompt it gives us
our response is risk assessed naturally as in:
how we express ourselves dictates the ongoing responses we experience from our environment
 Quoting: aether


thus we may consider being on a life providing planet by design
does it feel true the motive is kill

it seems much of our recent ancestry has become invested in the thrill of the kill in the name of something good

strange but true
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Which form of communism? In Canada we live under a centrally delegated social democracy with a redistribution model. Previously I lived under a system which rewarded both it's most brazen criminals and it's mirror, those with socially acceptable talents.

The only difference I see with capitalism is in title and overt quality of propaganda.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39902384


You forgot the freefall

I mean....

....freedom?

....

Yes, I meant to say 'freedom'.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


What is freedom but the right to practice the repugnant alongside the seemingly prudent?.

Many can only grow by trying to destroy themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39902384


Not all laws are to prevent the practice of the repugnant. Many are the abuse of power, and for financial needs.

The concept of freedom has been so abused to the point that many do not understand what 'freedom' really is. It has become (probably all it ever has been) propaganda for governments delivering a false hope to manage citizens.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


It is always about the delimitation by equal and opposite. What in this example we are to know as consequence. When something is allowed to go past the pinion of equal consequence diminishes.

Somewhere men were taught that shiny things were more important than social responsibility. What could it be that banks and corporations give us that is so much better than our dignity?

Money for nothing.......



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You forgot the freefall

I mean....

....freedom?

....

Yes, I meant to say 'freedom'.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


What is freedom but the right to practice the repugnant alongside the seemingly prudent?.

Many can only grow by trying to destroy themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39902384


Not all laws are to prevent the practice of the repugnant. Many are the abuse of power, and for financial needs.

The concept of freedom has been so abused to the point that many do not understand what 'freedom' really is. It has become (probably all it ever has been) propaganda for governments delivering a false hope to manage citizens.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


I wholeheartedly agree with this
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Being a specialist in culture and art exhibitions he organized since 1991 over 30 cultural exhibitions in Austria, Japan and Korea. His attention was automatically drawn to a phenomenon called 'Ooparts' - out of place artifacts. These artifacts should not exist according to current science. Klaus Dona has been researching these type of artifacts for over a decade and, after a long preparation, he decided to set up an exhibition of 470 of these (Ooparts) pieces called ''Unsolved Mysteries''. The artifacts are from different places such as Colombia, Bolivia, Peru, Ecuador, Mexico and many other countries. He has been able to display such artifacts - a feat no one had been able to achieve since museums bury these in their basements to avoid raising uncomfortable questions. A large portion of the pieces are scattered around the world and held in secret private collections. Klaus Dona has been able to research more than 3500 pieces, which have no logical explanation!

His Ooparts exhibition was a big success in Vienna, after it travelled to Switzerland, Berlin and Seoul. Being physical pieces, they are irrefutable evidence and difficult to reject. All through his search for unexplained archaeological artifacts the answer has always been: we are not alone, more so, we've never been.

This is the quintessential Klaus Dona interview.


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Thread: The SECRET HISTORY of the HUMAN RACE w/ Klaus Dona
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I wonder when the spider first saw the web

Could you imagine?

A few defective follicles on the rear, and what follows:

Thought; invention; but first of all, Reflection.

One cannot ascribe this aspect of development to 'instinct' because there was necessarily a single individual who crossed the line first

But is human instinct to build?

One would think if we could build silk houses and furniture with a nearly inexhaustible free source of material, we would do that instead.....
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Single individual? What is the engine for paralell evolution of like ideas in mutually isolated locales?

Nothing is created; At best it is borrowed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39902384


But isn't the effectiveness of a trap only discovered post creation?

It begs the question of exactly which use was discovered first

Perhaps the dandelion-seed-like 'parachute' strands are the most plausible

Perhaps one day a small insect struck the line of a spider in flight, becoming entangled
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


It's only a trap when you become the food.
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And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him:
and he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,

Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.....
 Quoting: Marco Israel


good morning
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05/21/2013 09:09 AM
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You forgot the freefall

I mean....

....freedom?

....

Yes, I meant to say 'freedom'.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


What is freedom but the right to practice the repugnant alongside the seemingly prudent?.

Many can only grow by trying to destroy themselves.
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Not all laws are to prevent the practice of the repugnant. Many are the abuse of power, and for financial needs.

The concept of freedom has been so abused to the point that many do not understand what 'freedom' really is. It has become (probably all it ever has been) propaganda for governments delivering a false hope to manage citizens.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


I wholeheartedly agree with this
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


How can a government give a free man anything?
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05/21/2013 09:13 AM
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What is freedom but the right to practice the repugnant alongside the seemingly prudent?.

Many can only grow by trying to destroy themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39902384


Not all laws are to prevent the practice of the repugnant. Many are the abuse of power, and for financial needs.

The concept of freedom has been so abused to the point that many do not understand what 'freedom' really is. It has become (probably all it ever has been) propaganda for governments delivering a false hope to manage citizens.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


I wholeheartedly agree with this
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


How can a government give a free man anything?
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By not taking it away....
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05/21/2013 09:14 AM
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Not all laws are to prevent the practice of the repugnant. Many are the abuse of power, and for financial needs.

The concept of freedom has been so abused to the point that many do not understand what 'freedom' really is. It has become (probably all it ever has been) propaganda for governments delivering a false hope to manage citizens.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


I wholeheartedly agree with this
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


How can a government give a free man anything?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39902384


By not taking it away....
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


They don't have that right.
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05/21/2013 09:18 AM
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I wholeheartedly agree with this
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


How can a government give a free man anything?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39902384


By not taking it away....
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


They don't have that right.
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If tomorrow you went to buy a gallon of milk, but instead found that it had become illegal or was $10,000, could that be considered theft?

For a perhaps more imminent example: tomato seeds