HUGE Louisiana sinkhole! PART 2 | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 12487521 United States 08/13/2012 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This, just in this morning.. Quoting: Slick Vick Thread: BREAKING-power of 100 Hiroshima nuclear bombs...evacuation of citizens in Assumption Parish. *sorry this is from last night, not this morning! It's OK, there are some who have still not seen this thread of info yet! Just keep informing everyone! |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 12487521 United States 08/13/2012 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A possible breach of a butane-filled well 1500 feet from Bayou Corne's sinkhole, the size of three football fields, is so "very serious," it has Assumption Parish sheriff and local residents ordered to evacuate worried about a catastrophic explosion, one according to scientists in an Examiner investigation, would be in the range of one and a half B83 thermonuclear (hydrogen) bombs, the most powerful United States weapons in active service. [link to www.examiner.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 12487521 United States 08/13/2012 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excluding secondary oil and gas pipeline and refinery explosions, direct effects of such a single bomb blast in Bayou Corne, fifty miles from Baton Rouge, would include Donaldsonville, Louisiana, according to NUKEMAP simulations showing an H-bomb this size would produce: "Fire-ball radius: (central orange circle): 0.62 km / 0.39 mi. Maximum size of the nuclear fireball; relevance to lived effects depends on height of detonation. "Air blast radius: 3.8 km / 2.1 mi (red shaded circle) 20 psi overpressure; heavily built concrete buildings are severely damaged or demolished; fatalities approach 100% "Air blast radius: 8.93 km / 5.55 mi (gray shaded circle) 4.6 psi overpressure; most buildings collapse; injuries universal, fatalities widespread. "Thermal radiation radius: 15.18 km / 9.43 mi (outer orange shaded circle) Third-degree burns to all exposed skin; starts fires in flammable materials, contributes to firestorm if large enough." Note: Butane explosion effects would differ from H-bomb effects two ways: 1) It would take much longer and have insignificant radiation damage; 2) Temperatures reached would be lower, so the fireball, thermal radiation, and air blast radii would be smaller, but all three longer-lasting. [link to www.examiner.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21885093 United States 08/13/2012 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | uummmm.... that was a useless explaination as I said, in that picture, the water level has gone down that means, possibly, FRESH water is migrating into the dome aka...fresh water disolves salt, brine does not Or possibly water evaporation from the heat and Sun! well, that would be fine and dandy, except the mud is still wet |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 12487521 United States 08/13/2012 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | from other thread Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21885093 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21885093 uummmm.... that was a useless explaination as I said, in that picture, the water level has gone down that means, possibly, FRESH water is migrating into the dome aka...fresh water disolves salt, brine does not Or possibly water evaporation from the heat and Sun! well, that would be fine and dandy, except the mud is still wet The mud will take longer to dry then the surface water due to evaporation! |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 12487521 United States 08/13/2012 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is an app you can try! There is a setting for the B83 bomb so you can see how far away it would effect! [link to nuclearsecrecy.com] |
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Nine's User ID: 20491395 United States 08/13/2012 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | State approves permit for sinkhole relief well BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) - The state Department of Natural Resources says is has approved a drilling permit for a relief well near a massive sinkhole in Assumption Parish. DNR Secretary Stephen Chustz says Houston-based Texas Brine Co. will drill into a brine cavern the company owns in the Napoleonville salt dome. [link to www.klfy.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21886889 United States 08/13/2012 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | very good paper on the dymanics of cavern storage facilities [link to hal-polytechnique.archives-ouvertes.fr] did ya'll know every empty/full cycle stresses and enlarges the cavern? did anyone notice the ~57 active well sites? the dome is only 2 miles by 1.5 miles [link to assumptionla.wordpress.com] map is at aug 8 |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 12487521 United States 08/13/2012 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | very good paper on the dymanics of cavern storage facilities Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21886889 [link to hal-polytechnique.archives-ouvertes.fr] did ya'll know every empty/full cycle stresses and enlarges the cavern? did anyone notice the ~57 active well sites? the dome is only 2 miles by 1.5 miles [link to assumptionla.wordpress.com] map is at aug 8 good info. Thanks! |
Nine's User ID: 20491395 United States 08/13/2012 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | very good paper on the dymanics of cavern storage facilities Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21886889 [link to hal-polytechnique.archives-ouvertes.fr] did ya'll know every empty/full cycle stresses and enlarges the cavern? did anyone notice the ~57 active well sites? the dome is only 2 miles by 1.5 miles [link to assumptionla.wordpress.com] map is at aug 8 What would/could happen if they drill into one? |
alexisj9 User ID: 1376880 United Kingdom 08/13/2012 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | very good paper on the dymanics of cavern storage facilities Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21886889 [link to hal-polytechnique.archives-ouvertes.fr] did ya'll know every empty/full cycle stresses and enlarges the cavern? did anyone notice the ~57 active well sites? the dome is only 2 miles by 1.5 miles [link to assumptionla.wordpress.com] map is at aug 8 What would/could happen if they drill into one? Who knows, nobody. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21886889 United States 08/13/2012 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | very good paper on the dymanics of cavern storage facilities Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21886889 [link to hal-polytechnique.archives-ouvertes.fr] did ya'll know every empty/full cycle stresses and enlarges the cavern? did anyone notice the ~57 active well sites? the dome is only 2 miles by 1.5 miles [link to assumptionla.wordpress.com] map is at aug 8 What would/could happen if they drill into one? here is the thing... if, as has been stated, they will empty some/most/all the wells that are active, will the decrease in pressure, and additional mass of water added infuence the stability of the whole dome the single butane well is bad, 57 more wells in a 1 mile, or less radius, is worse could decreasing the gas pressure in the wells cause water to seep in (reverse of bubbles out) and erode the dome it has already been stated that the original well failed pressure test, aka breached it is at the corner of the dome it is surrounded with fresh water fresh water eats the salt the dome with almost 60 active wells!!!!! |
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Nine's User ID: 20491395 United States 08/13/2012 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | very good paper on the dymanics of cavern storage facilities Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21886889 [link to hal-polytechnique.archives-ouvertes.fr] did ya'll know every empty/full cycle stresses and enlarges the cavern? did anyone notice the ~57 active well sites? the dome is only 2 miles by 1.5 miles [link to assumptionla.wordpress.com] map is at aug 8 What would/could happen if they drill into one? Who knows, nobody. Heh. Guess we're about to find out. Wonder why, with all the equipment they have, it will take 40 days to come up with some answers, and whey they can't use some of their high tech equipment to see what's going on real time. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 12487521 United States 08/13/2012 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is an app you can try! There is a setting for the B83 bomb so you can see how far away it would effect! Quoting: Paa Tal [link to nuclearsecrecy.com] It was stated in a link somewhere that this explosion would be equal to 1 and a half times of the B83 bomb! Check it out. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19174812 United States 08/13/2012 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | check out forum pg 1: 3 to 4 threads on this not one gets a red pin? Quoting: psyoptics WTF almost 1/2 of the pinned threads today are about this! not one RED pin....not one. three green pins per week per thread. Only biased propaganda gets an official pin here. If it is FOR the people and true information, it will never be officially pinned. If it devides, is racist, or plays into the phony left/right busywork, it will get lots of pins. They heavily favor the right wing propaganda here. |
Nine's User ID: 20491395 United States 08/13/2012 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | very good paper on the dymanics of cavern storage facilities Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21886889 [link to hal-polytechnique.archives-ouvertes.fr] did ya'll know every empty/full cycle stresses and enlarges the cavern? did anyone notice the ~57 active well sites? the dome is only 2 miles by 1.5 miles [link to assumptionla.wordpress.com] map is at aug 8 What would/could happen if they drill into one? here is the thing... if, as has been stated, they will empty some/most/all the wells that are active, will the decrease in pressure, and additional mass of water added infuence the stability of the whole dome the single butane well is bad, 57 more wells in a 1 mile, or less radius, is worse could decreasing the gas pressure in the wells cause water to seep in (reverse of bubbles out) and erode the dome it has already been stated that the original well failed pressure test, aka breached it is at the corner of the dome it is surrounded with fresh water fresh water eats the salt the dome with almost 60 active wells!!!!! It didn't make sense to me that they would empty things. Wouldn't it be better to fill them with sea water rather than have them empty? |
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Nine's User ID: 20491395 United States 08/13/2012 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | from that: "Next Scientific Group meeting is tentatively scheduled scheduled for 8/23/2012 @ 9:30 AM LaSalle for 8/23/2012 @ 9:30 AM LaSalle Building" why are they waiting TEN DAYS before the next meeting???? So what happened to that spin about them meeting every day and keeping people informed? The people who live there must be so furious. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21886889 United States 08/13/2012 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what are they doing to prevent this explosion ? It looks like they are letting nature take its course(unless I missed something) Quoting: closing eyes Could they concrete entoumbe the salt mine? Or will it eventually just go caboom? that would be one long ass line of cement trucks those caverns are huge |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21886889 United States 08/13/2012 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | from that: "Next Scientific Group meeting is tentatively scheduled scheduled for 8/23/2012 @ 9:30 AM LaSalle for 8/23/2012 @ 9:30 AM LaSalle Building" why are they waiting TEN DAYS before the next meeting???? So what happened to that spin about them meeting every day and keeping people informed? The people who live there must be so furious. the feds moved in watch for the news blackout |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 12487521 United States 08/13/2012 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If they have a nuke bomb site that was tested i a salt flat underneath much of the region, then during each rain fall the salt will erode away and cause all the land above the salt flats to collapse down upon where the salt used to be, until they opened up a hole and caused water to reach the salt! Morons if you ask me... Quoting: Node 8213732 This might also contribute to the "coastal erosion" problem that has been here. |