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| miffed Offer Upgrade  User ID: 21174987  Australia08/15/2012 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1227514  Canada08/15/2012 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was talking to my mum one day & she said something to me that piqued my interest concerning the prophet Ellen G White. Quoting: miffed My son had been telling her about the govt (schools) turning on the camera's in the school handout laptops so they could see what the students were doing, where they were etc. Her stepmother (knickname - Chicken Hawk) used to preach ALL the time but then as mum said the things that stood out were happening now - one day the govt will be able to keep watch over people in the privacy of their own homes without them knowing by electronic devices. one day there will be NO small businesses, only one major chain store (maybe Walmart??) everyone will be required to wear the devils number (micro-chipped) I'm just wondering if there is anywhere that all these 'prophesies' are listed in one place? I have googled but not found anything direct, it's mostly just about the church & their beliefs. On a side note I did read that alot of modern day 'prophesies' are from SDA's anonymously putting it out there into cyber world. Can anyone point me to a list of her prophesies??? TIA Thread: A CLEAR SIGN OF THE END TIMES!!! THE ADVENT OF THE PHONEY UNTITED NATIONS isreal READ EZEKIEL 38. (Page 2) [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1227514 Canada08/15/2012 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was talking to my mum one day & she said something to me that piqued my interest concerning the prophet Ellen G White. Quoting: miffed My son had been telling her about the govt (schools) turning on the camera's in the school handout laptops so they could see what the students were doing, where they were etc. Her stepmother (knickname - Chicken Hawk) used to preach ALL the time but then as mum said the things that stood out were happening now - one day the govt will be able to keep watch over people in the privacy of their own homes without them knowing by electronic devices. one day there will be NO small businesses, only one major chain store (maybe Walmart??) everyone will be required to wear the devils number (micro-chipped) I'm just wondering if there is anywhere that all these 'prophesies' are listed in one place? I have googled but not found anything direct, it's mostly just about the church & their beliefs. On a side note I did read that alot of modern day 'prophesies' are from SDA's anonymously putting it out there into cyber world. Can anyone point me to a list of her prophesies??? TIA Thread: A CLEAR SIGN OF THE END TIMES!!! THE ADVENT OF THE PHONEY UNTITED NATIONS isreal READ EZEKIEL 38. (Page 2) [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Thread: A CLEAR SIGN OF THE END TIMES!!! THE ADVENT OF THE PHONEY UNTITED NATIONS isreal READ EZEKIEL 38. (Page 2) [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
| miffed (OP) User ID: 21174987 Australia08/15/2012 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was talking to my mum one day & she said something to me that piqued my interest concerning the prophet Ellen G White. Quoting: miffed My son had been telling her about the govt (schools) turning on the camera's in the school handout laptops so they could see what the students were doing, where they were etc. Her stepmother (knickname - Chicken Hawk) used to preach ALL the time but then as mum said the things that stood out were happening now - one day the govt will be able to keep watch over people in the privacy of their own homes without them knowing by electronic devices. one day there will be NO small businesses, only one major chain store (maybe Walmart??) everyone will be required to wear the devils number (micro-chipped) I'm just wondering if there is anywhere that all these 'prophesies' are listed in one place? I have googled but not found anything direct, it's mostly just about the church & their beliefs. On a side note I did read that alot of modern day 'prophesies' are from SDA's anonymously putting it out there into cyber world. Can anyone point me to a list of her prophesies??? TIA Thread: A CLEAR SIGN OF THE END TIMES!!! THE ADVENT OF THE PHONEY UNTITED NATIONS isreal READ EZEKIEL 38. (Page 2) [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Thread: A CLEAR SIGN OF THE END TIMES!!! THE ADVENT OF THE PHONEY UNTITED NATIONS isreal READ EZEKIEL 38. (Page 2) [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] That doesn't answer what I am looking for sorry. I am looking for a list of Ellen G White's prophesies :) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22013312  Switzerland08/15/2012 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| miffed (OP) User ID: 21174987 Australia08/15/2012 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not really worried about that I just wanted to read what she had 'prophesied', it's all good though as I finally found it (seems she had a few hits though- [link to www.ellenwhite.info] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1580547  United States08/15/2012 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1580547 United States08/15/2012 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read The Great Controversy and her compilation called Last Day Events for EVERYTHING you want to know! I believe they are both available online and in most book stores and definitely in Adventist Book Stores online, and even Amazon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1580547 [link to egwestate.org] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5837587 Australia08/15/2012 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | she had alot of hits op. if u ever have time, read her guide to healthful living. and if u really want to know more about white, read miller.. im not sda, im non denominational, but ive read alot of different things in my journey and white and millers writings stand out. |
| miffed (OP) User ID: 21174987 Australia08/15/2012 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read The Great Controversy and her compilation called Last Day Events for EVERYTHING you want to know! I believe they are both available online and in most book stores and definitely in Adventist Book Stores online, and even Amazon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1580547 Thanks, the link I just found are exerts from that very book I do believe & how they coincide with things that have happened in the past I found this one especially interesting [link to www.ellenwhite.info] ) & possibly linked to these times we are experiencing now [link to www.ellenwhite.info] |
| miffed (OP) User ID: 21174987 Australia08/15/2012 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | she had alot of hits op. if u ever have time, read her guide to healthful living. and if u really want to know more about white, read miller.. im not sda, im non denominational, but ive read alot of different things in my journey and white and millers writings stand out. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5837587 I will bookmark what I have found so far & have a look at that & the other book I was previously told to have a look at & yes she does seem to have more hits than misses thanks  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 United States08/15/2012 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | she had alot of hits op. if u ever have time, read her guide to healthful living. and if u really want to know more about white, read miller.. im not sda, im non denominational, but ive read alot of different things in my journey and white and millers writings stand out. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5837587 A person can have some good advice but that doesn't make them a prophet. |
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| Ck User ID: 21968272 United States08/15/2012 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | True. If she was a prophet then nothing she said should have been wrong. But many of her 'prophecies' were wrong. All it takes is one wrong prophecy but she had more than that. Wasnt really a prophecy. She and others were reading the Bible setting dates as they understood it. They were certainly wrong. And they may even have misled the masses about a few doctrine. But the majority of SDA theology is spot on with the Bible. |
| miffed (OP) User ID: 21174987 Australia08/15/2012 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ellen White made no prophecies that i'm aware of. She just put out books as a Bible commentator. They call her a prophet for some unknown reason. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21968272 A visionary??? I agree though she never said she was a prophet as far as I can see so far Ellen White experienced a vision at this time, her first of many. This vision was a great encouragement to the Advent believers, for it affirmed their belief in the imminent return of Christ [link to www.ellenwhite.info] |
| Biochemky User ID: 919411 United States08/15/2012 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ellen G. White was not a false prophet. She met all of the tests of a true prophet of the Lord. One only has to read the writings that God inspired her to write to know that she was called by God for such a purpose. Three of the most helpful books she wrote are: Steps to Christ [link to www.whiteestate.org] The Great Controversy Between Christ and Satan [link to www.whiteestate.org] The Desire of Ages: The Conflict of the Ages Illustrated in the Life of Christ [link to www.whiteestate.org] Each book can be read free of charge online at the link provided beneath each title. GLPers may be interested to know that on April 16th and April 17th of 1906 Ellen G. White was given two visions that were both related to the Great Earthquake that was to hit San Francisco on April 18th 1906. The first vision was primarily showing her the extent of the destruction that was to befall a large modern city with a Great Earthquake. The second vision dealt more with the reasoning behind why a Great Earthquake was to occur. Her description of the two visions was published in the next issue of The Review and Herald magazine and is available to read at this link. [link to text.egwwritings.org] |
| miffed (OP) User ID: 21174987 Australia08/15/2012 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | New York Skyscrapers Burn But I have no light in particular in regard to what is coming on New York, only that I know that one day the great buildings there will be thrown down by the turning and overturning of God's power. From the light given me, I know that destruction is in the world. One word from the Lord, one touch of his mighty power, and these massive structures will fall. Scenes will take place the fearfulness of which we cannot imagine.—Review and Herald, July 5, 1906, emphasis supplied. Last Edited by miffed on 08/15/2012 01:39 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9005159 United States08/15/2012 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 904802 United States08/15/2012 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | she had alot of hits op. if u ever have time, read her guide to healthful living. and if u really want to know more about white, read miller.. im not sda, im non denominational, but ive read alot of different things in my journey and white and millers writings stand out. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5837587 A person can have some good advice but that doesn't make them a prophet. I'm going to be controversial here. I think this is a simplistic way of approaching prophecies. Jonah prophecied Ninevah would be destroyed. It was not. Isaiah prophesied that Hezekiah would die. He did not. It was prophesied that King Josiah would die in peace. He did not. I think there's a bigger picture here. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 904802 United States08/15/2012 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | she had alot of hits op. if u ever have time, read her guide to healthful living. and if u really want to know more about white, read miller.. im not sda, im non denominational, but ive read alot of different things in my journey and white and millers writings stand out. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5837587 A person can have some good advice but that doesn't make them a prophet. I'm going to be controversial here. I think this is a simplistic way of approaching prophecies. Jonah prophecied Ninevah would be destroyed. It was not. Isaiah prophesied that Hezekiah would die. He did not. It was prophesied that King Josiah would die in peace. He did not. I think there's a bigger picture here. I quoted the wrong person. I was trying to respond to the poster that called her a false prophet. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9005159 United States08/15/2012 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10823255 United States08/15/2012 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | True. If she was a prophet then nothing she said should have been wrong. But many of her 'prophecies' were wrong. All it takes is one wrong prophecy but she had more than that. Wasnt really a prophecy. She and others were reading the Bible setting dates as they understood it. They were certainly wrong. And they may even have misled the masses about a few doctrine. But the majority of SDA theology is spot on with the Bible. I think the Adventists are the closest theology to the Bible. A lot of things were changed with the Catholic church like Sunday worship that aren't a part of the Bible. However, Ellen White plagiarized quite a bit. She also suffered a head injury like someone mentioned previously and this is what lead to her many "visions". I'll give her one thing, her stance on vegetarianism is spot on. Adventists live the longest of any other group of people due in a large part to their vegetarianism. However, this thought was popular with other groups of people during Ellen White's time. Some people claim she simply adopted it from that influence rather than from any visions. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5899887 United States08/15/2012 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ellen white has had more *FAILED* prophecies than one needs to be a false prophet. 'Nuf said, go to link below to see how false she was. [link to www.nonsda.org] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10823255 United States08/15/2012 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ellen G. White was not a false prophet. She met all of the tests of a true prophet of the Lord. One only has to read the writings that God inspired her to write to know that she was called by God for such a purpose. Three of the most helpful books she wrote are: Steps to Christ [link to www.whiteestate.org] The Great Controversy Between Christ and Satan [link to www.whiteestate.org] The Desire of Ages: The Conflict of the Ages Illustrated in the Life of Christ [link to www.whiteestate.org] Each book can be read free of charge online at the link provided beneath each title. GLPers may be interested to know that on April 16th and April 17th of 1906 Ellen G. White was given two visions that were both related to the Great Earthquake that was to hit San Francisco on April 18th 1906. The first vision was primarily showing her the extent of the destruction that was to befall a large modern city with a Great Earthquake. The second vision dealt more with the reasoning behind why a Great Earthquake was to occur. Her description of the two visions was published in the next issue of The Review and Herald magazine and is available to read at this link. [link to text.egwwritings.org] I've read all those books when I went to an Adventist college. However, she plagiarized some of her writings. Not all of her prophecies have come true. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21874504 United States08/15/2012 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Ck User ID: 21968272 United States08/15/2012 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont think predicting an earthquake is a prophecy like we see in the bible, if she actually did such a thing in the first place. Hard to say at this point. Ellen white was just a bible commentator. I'm not even sure she wrote those books. But they did depart from previous teachings such as that the Revelation chapter 10 is about the Protestant Reformation. Thru one of her quack visions i.e. Jesuit inspired deceptions decided to change this established Bible truth to chapter 10 being about SDA and 1844. That just does not fit between chapters 9 & 11. |
