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I Think Israel Is Bluffing About Having Nukes.

 
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I'm not buying it. America would not have just stood by an let nukes be sold on the market. There were even less in the world back then. Impossible to keep that deal quiet.

I don't think they have any. Its a psyop.
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Typical Neverlander! Who do you think sold them to Israel
stupid?.....WE DID !

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sold?

we give them billions every year, they have never bought anything from us.

we are the host, they are the parasite.
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How could they have built them without anyone suspecting. Even India drew suspicion even though it wasn't confirmed until they had them.

I don't recall any underground explosions for testing or any warhead test launches.

I don't think Israel has any nukes at all.
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THE THIRD TEMPLE'S HOLY OF HOLIES:
ISRAEL'S NUCLEAR WEAPONS

[link to www.fas.org]
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I don't see in the article where they tested with underground nuclear explosions which is hoe nukes are tested.

I'm not convinced. The article says the French helped them with technology and they stole Uranium from America. That doesn't add up to weapons.

Nope. Israel doesn't have nukes.
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SHHHH!!

It's Secret. Goy are not supposed to know Israel owns hundreds of nukes.
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no they aren't - that's why they attacked the USS Liberty during the war with Egypt. They didn't want us to 'hear' their nukes going off and all that EM energy.

Isn't it obvious? USS Liberty was a signals intelligence ship and could not have missed a nuke detonation. Israel was losing at the time; so they dropped a few tactical nukes (probably neutron) on the Egyptians. Either that or the nukes were buried there ahead of time.

Either that or it was GWEN radiation they used, which interferes with human cognition. Either way they have weapons they don't want us to know about.
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They've got the sheep fooled.
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Israel and South Africa jointly developed a bomb and tested in the South Atlantic.

JFK wanted the Israeli Dimona nuclear facility opened for inspection. Just one more reason as to why he died.

Ron Paul, in the debates, said that Israel had 300 or 400 nuclear weapons and no one blinked.

Israel also has two German built nuclear capable submarines. Israel will take down the world if it gets the chance.

Its not so much the bombs that are scarey, what scary is that it leaves the world exposed to dozens of offline and with out cooling Fukushima events. In a nuke war the lucky ones are the ones inside the fireball.
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Israel in essence is the conspiratorial terrorist to the world.
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No one has any hard evidence though. If Israel had nukes they would leave no doubt. All there is is conjecture and propaganda.
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How did India and Pakistan get the bomb?Most people in poverty yet a space program too.
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No one has any hard evidence though. If Israel had nukes they would leave no doubt. All there is is conjecture and propaganda.
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Disagree; they are using 'strategic ambiguity' so as to create deterrence and not necessarily drive an arms race. Smart strategy; creates deterrence without escalation of costs and arms.
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no they aren't - that's why they attacked the USS Liberty during the war with Egypt. They didn't want us to 'hear' their nukes going off and all that EM energy.

Isn't it obvious? USS Liberty was a signals intelligence ship and could not have missed a nuke detonation. Israel was losing at the time; so they dropped a few tactical nukes (probably neutron) on the Egyptians. Either that or the nukes were buried there ahead of time.

Either that or it was GWEN radiation they used, which interferes with human cognition. Either way they have weapons they don't want us to know about.
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The Israelis Had someone in the NSA and learned that the intel from the USS LIBERTY was being fed to the Arabs as it came in. This is the reason that they attacked it. Their nukes are the reason Johnson called off the rescue mission, overriding the Joint Chiefs. Remember when it goes down, and it will soon, Israel will take down Russia and her allies! Or don't you believe the written word of God?
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No one has any hard evidence though. If Israel had nukes they would leave no doubt. All there is is conjecture and propaganda.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]


Also, Brezinski outta know.



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How could they have built them without anyone suspecting. Even India drew suspicion even though it wasn't confirmed until they had them.

I don't recall any underground explosions for testing or any warhead test launches.

I don't think Israel has any nukes at all.
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THE THIRD TEMPLE'S HOLY OF HOLIES:
ISRAEL'S NUCLEAR WEAPONS

[link to www.fas.org]
 Quoting: thetrickybigguy


I don't see in the article where they tested with underground nuclear explosions which is hoe nukes are tested.

I'm not convinced. The article says the French helped them with technology and they stole Uranium from America. That doesn't add up to weapons.

Nope. Israel doesn't have nukes.
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why do you think JFK was murdered?

two reasons...

one, he was gonna do away with the fed.

two, he was gonna make sure israhel didn't get nukes.

kennedy dead and out of the way, nothin' but green lights.

you can BELIEVE they got em.

abomb

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“When a government is dependent for money upon the bankers, they and not the government leaders control the nation. This is because the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Financiers are without patriotism and without decency.”
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They have nukes. There is doubt about it and they were paid by the American taxpayers.
They also have a system called the Samson Option since the 60's; nukes pointed at European's largest cities. They will be used when/if Israel is about to get destroyed.



There is a reason why Israel is the 4th most powerful nation on Earth.

I think they are gonna use them during our lifetimes. We may not have to wait that long anymore.
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If Israel had them. The aquisition and/or development would have been impossible to hide.

Americans think the J_ews are super human and Genius' behind every conspiracy but that is only to avoid the facts that people who look like themselves are responsible for most of the horror and theft not the J_ews.

Israel has no nukes because like Adolph Hitler their mentality must project power and dominate. They would use them if they had them.
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I'm honestly surprised by such comments.
They have threatened several times to use them. Why would a country do that (against nations who have the bomb) if they don't have nukes? That's not bluffing. It's plain stupidity and recklessness and they're everything but stupid.

Also, they have used ILLEGAL weapons of mass destruction in the past. Cluster bombs and White phosporus.
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I have NEVER heard Israel threaten to use nuclear weapons on anyone.
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[link to www.youtube.com]


Turkey PM says Lieberman threatened to nuke Gaza
[link to www.haaretz.com]



Israel is the only regime that has threatened to obliterate all world countries in a "nuclear Armageddon," if its existence is put in jeopardy.

[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to www.debatepolitics.com]
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I'm not buying it. America would not have just stood by an let nukes be sold on the market. There were even less in the world back then. Impossible to keep that deal quiet.

I don't think they have any. Its a psyop.
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Google history about what Kennedy said about Israel having nukes days before his death. Dimona nuclear research facility was already built. What do you think they were researching?
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How could they have built them without anyone suspecting. Even India drew suspicion even though it wasn't confirmed until they had them.

I don't recall any underground explosions for testing or any warhead test launches.

I don't think Israel has any nukes at all.
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As far as I know the French helped them and they tested in French Polynesia.

They've had workable bombs since 1967.

They don't "officially" admit it though.

They also don't "officially" deny it either.
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I'm not buying it. America would not have just stood by an let nukes be sold on the market. There were even less in the world back then. Impossible to keep that deal quiet.

I don't think they have any. Its a psyop.
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Google history about what Kennedy said about Israel having nukes days before his death. Dimona nuclear research facility was already built. What do you think they were researching?
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and Kennedy was getting in their way, so 'they' killed him.
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Life is about choices, you get to make them each and every day of your life. ~

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I'm not buying it. America would not have just stood by an let nukes be sold on the market. There were even less in the world back then. Impossible to keep that deal quiet.

I don't think they have any. Its a psyop.
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Typical Neverlander! Who do you think sold them to Israel
stupid?.....WE DID !

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sold?

we give them billions every year, they have never bought anything from us.

we are the host, they are the parasite.
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That's not true, they've bought tons of arms from us and continue to buy.
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no they aren't - that's why they attacked the USS Liberty during the war with Egypt. They didn't want us to 'hear' their nukes going off and all that EM energy.

Isn't it obvious? USS Liberty was a signals intelligence ship and could not have missed a nuke detonation. Israel was losing at the time; so they dropped a few tactical nukes (probably neutron) on the Egyptians. Either that or the nukes were buried there ahead of time.

Either that or it was GWEN radiation they used, which interferes with human cognition. Either way they have weapons they don't want us to know about.
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Total BS, there were no nuclear explosions in the ME wars.

You'd never get away with it.

2 kiloton or more shows up on all the seismometers.
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no they aren't - that's why they attacked the USS Liberty during the war with Egypt. They didn't want us to 'hear' their nukes going off and all that EM energy.

Isn't it obvious? USS Liberty was a signals intelligence ship and could not have missed a nuke detonation. Israel was losing at the time; so they dropped a few tactical nukes (probably neutron) on the Egyptians. Either that or the nukes were buried there ahead of time.

Either that or it was GWEN radiation they used, which interferes with human cognition. Either way they have weapons they don't want us to know about.
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Total BS, there were no nuclear explosions in the ME wars.

You'd never get away with it.

2 kiloton or more shows up on all the seismometers.
"Everybody lies."
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They have nukes. There is doubt about it and they were paid by the American taxpayers.
They also have a system called the Samson Option since the 60's; nukes pointed at European's largest cities. They will be used when/if Israel is about to get destroyed.



There is a reason why Israel is the 4th most powerful nation on Earth.

I think they are gonna use them during our lifetimes. We may not have to wait that long anymore.
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I'm not buying it. America would not have just stood by an let nukes be sold on the market. There were even less in the world back then. Impossible to keep that deal quiet.

I don't think they have any. Its a psyop.
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Typical Neverlander! Who do you think sold them to Israel
stupid?.....WE DID !

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sold?

we give them billions every year, they have never bought anything from us.

we are the host, they are the parasite.
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I'm not buying it. America would not have just stood by an let nukes be sold on the market. There were even less in the world back then. Impossible to keep that deal quiet.

I don't think they have any. Its a psyop.
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Typical Neverlander! Who do you think sold them to Israel
stupid?.....WE DID !

 Quoting: Nam Marine 1170522


sold?

we give them billions every year, they have never bought anything from us.

we are the host, they are the parasite.
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They stole the plutonium from the Hanford nuke plant in Washington; research the missing material from that plant in the 70's.
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no they aren't - that's why they attacked the USS Liberty during the war with Egypt. They didn't want us to 'hear' their nukes going off and all that EM energy.

Isn't it obvious? USS Liberty was a signals intelligence ship and could not have missed a nuke detonation. Israel was losing at the time; so they dropped a few tactical nukes (probably neutron) on the Egyptians. Either that or the nukes were buried there ahead of time.

Either that or it was GWEN radiation they used, which interferes with human cognition. Either way they have weapons they don't want us to know about.
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Total BS, there were no nuclear explosions in the ME wars.

You'd never get away with it.

2 kiloton or more shows up on all the seismometers.
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Then it was GWEN radio they used. It is demonstrated to interfere with human brain function; as we know, human brains operate with EM (electro magnetic) energy.

I think neutron bombs have very little blast but a lot of radiation that does not contaminate the environment as much; could have been neutron.

Any other logical explanation for attacking a signals intelligence ship? I can't think of any. And as for this 'mis-identification' lie, the ship was a very advanced ELINT ship and the Egyptians had nothing like it.

BTW I am actually pro-Israel. The jewish people need and deserve a homeland after all the tragedy they have suffered over the centuries, especially in light of their contributions to humanity, but let's call this one fair. It was a deliberate attack for specific reasons.
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no they aren't - that's why they attacked the USS Liberty during the war with Egypt. They didn't want us to 'hear' their nukes going off and all that EM energy.

Isn't it obvious? USS Liberty was a signals intelligence ship and could not have missed a nuke detonation. Israel was losing at the time; so they dropped a few tactical nukes (probably neutron) on the Egyptians. Either that or the nukes were buried there ahead of time.

Either that or it was GWEN radiation they used, which interferes with human cognition. Either way they have weapons they don't want us to know about.
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Total BS, there were no nuclear explosions in the ME wars.

You'd never get away with it.

2 kiloton or more shows up on all the seismometers.
 Quoting: G. House


Then it was GWEN radio they used. It is demonstrated to interfere with human brain function; as we know, human brains operate with EM (electro magnetic) energy.

I think neutron bombs have very little blast but a lot of radiation that does not contaminate the environment as much; could have been neutron.

Any other logical explanation for attacking a signals intelligence ship? I can't think of any. And as for this 'mis-identification' lie, the ship was a very advanced ELINT ship and the Egyptians had nothing like it.

BTW I am actually pro-Israel. The jewish people need and deserve a homeland after all the tragedy they have suffered over the centuries, especially in light of their contributions to humanity, but let's call this one fair. It was a deliberate attack for specific reasons.
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"The "usual" nuclear weapon yield—expressed as kT TNT equivalent—is not a measure of a neutron weapon's destructive power. It refers only to the energy released (mostly heat and blast), and does not express the lethal effect of neutron radiation on living organisms. Compared to a fission bomb with the identical explosive yield, a neutron bomb would emit about ten times[3] the amount of neutron radiation. In a fission bomb, the radiation pulse energy is approximately 5% of the entire energy released; in the neutron bomb it would be closer to 50%.[citation needed] A neutron bomb releases a much greater number of neutrons than a fission bomb of the same explosive yield. Furthermore, these neutrons are of much higher energy (14 MeV) than those released during a fission reaction (1–2 MeV).[4]"

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Just because they stole rods doesn't mean they have Nukes. Could Hitler have resisted striking his "inferiors" No.

That's how it works with that racist supremacist mentality.

Israel would have sent a message to their "inferiors" especially with all the threats from Iran.

I'm not buying it. I'm not demanding that anyone believe like I do. Its just that we have all learned how psyops work since 911 and this fits the profile in hindsight.
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I think none of the nukes can be used anymore.

All systems shut down.
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LMAO Are you living on planet earth or the land of make believe. A think the latter do some research these fuckers have got them and if anybody ever uses them you can bet they are the most probable.
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I'm not buying it. America would not have just stood by an let nukes be sold on the market. There were even less in the world back then. Impossible to keep that deal quiet.

I don't think they have any. Its a psyop.
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Typical Neverlander! Who do you think sold them to Israel
stupid?.....WE DID !

 Quoting: Nam Marine 1170522


sold?

we give them billions every year, they have never bought anything from us.

we are the host, they are the parasite.
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That's not true, they've bought tons of arms from us and continue to buy.
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yeah, using the money they got from the US.....

how do they make money?

lets see now...

drugs

sex slavery and prostitution

what did i miss?
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“When a government is dependent for money upon the bankers, they and not the government leaders control the nation. This is because the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Financiers are without patriotism and without decency.”
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no they aren't - that's why they attacked the USS Liberty during the war with Egypt. They didn't want us to 'hear' their nukes going off and all that EM energy.

Isn't it obvious? USS Liberty was a signals intelligence ship and could not have missed a nuke detonation. Israel was losing at the time; so they dropped a few tactical nukes (probably neutron) on the Egyptians. Either that or the nukes were buried there ahead of time.

Either that or it was GWEN radiation they used, which interferes with human cognition. Either way they have weapons they don't want us to know about.
 Quoting: Anonymous coward 321


Total BS, there were no nuclear explosions in the ME wars.

You'd never get away with it.

2 kiloton or more shows up on all the seismometers.
 Quoting: G. House


Then it was GWEN radio they used. It is demonstrated to interfere with human brain function; as we know, human brains operate with EM (electro magnetic) energy.

I think neutron bombs have very little blast but a lot of radiation that does not contaminate the environment as much; could have been neutron.

Any other logical explanation for attacking a signals intelligence ship? I can't think of any. And as for this 'mis-identification' lie, the ship was a very advanced ELINT ship and the Egyptians had nothing like it.



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BTW I am actually pro-Israel. The jewish people need and deserve a homeland after all the tragedy they have suffered over the centuries, especially in light of their contributions to humanity, but let's call this one fair. It was a deliberate attack for specific reasons.
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Deserve a homeland dont give me that crap have you actually looked into history, am not talking about the holocaust try going back earlier and explain to me why the jewish people were kicked out of every country they tried to steal from.
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I'm Jewish and my country is the best in the world.

the have pretty pink shiny nukes.

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