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AGAIN new orders from DHS : 165 million rounds of 223 and pepper spray | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22349568  Canada08/21/2012 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17710102  United States08/21/2012 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read the contract properly you fool. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22342936 "The guaranteed minimum of any contract awarded is 10,000 rounds and is applicable to the base year only." There isnt an actual order for 165 mill you numpty, its an estimate. This is atndard procedure in a contract that if needed in time of war that they are capable of supplying the higher amount. This is standard across any civi - military arms contract. It clearly states in what you linked "Minimum and Maximum Tresholds", and you even spelt that wrong buddy. Get educated on a subject before you post it in future. sorry dhs does not carry the AR15 except on texas border. |
doomsucker  User ID: 22103157 United States08/21/2012 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The blush is off the rose. I repeat...The blush is off the rose. Last Edited by A Mery Can on 08/21/2012 09:15 AM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10885887  France08/21/2012 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22350740 United States08/21/2012 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But eh, nothing is going on... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22333253 223 remington : [link to www.fbo.gov (secure)] .223 Remington Caliber SD (62 grain) Solicitation Number: HSCEMS-12-R-00015 Agency: Department of Homeland Security Office: Immigration & Customs Enforcement From the document : [link to www.fbo.gov (secure)] Minimum and Maximum Tresholds: The contract or contracts for .223 Remington Caliber SD awarded under this solicitation will have a base period of one year, plus four one-year options. The guaranteed minimum of any contract awarded is 10,000 rounds and is applicable to the base year only. The estimated amount over the 5 year duration of the contract will be 165,000,000 rounds. 165 million round over 5 years = 33 million round/year... or half the consumption of the US army in a war zone (Iraq)... and that is just .223... And pepper spray.. [link to www.fbo.gov (secure)] 13--PEPPER SPRAY Solicitation Number: PR20071101 Agency: Department of Homeland Security Office: Customs and Border Protection Location: Procurement Directorate - DC Nothing is going on folks... NOTHING... GOT IT???  This is just their way of having gun control. What use are out guns if they continue to buy up all the ammo? Then they never took away our right to have guns. We just can't use them.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1072087 United States08/21/2012 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AM I THE ONLY PERSON UPSET THAT WE ARE THAT POOR OF A SHOT? 200K ROUNDS FOR 1 SOLDIER?! Quoting: Schlotzsky I pride my self in being a good shooter. The shooter is moving, the target is moving, fully automatic and high adrenaline do not make for clean one-shot kills. I have never tried this type of shooting but could imagine a low shot-to-kill ratio. Exactly, like the time I shot the Haitian Gang Banger, I waiting till he reached for the top of the wall to scale over it and run, once his hand was on top, he was "Fully Committed" to get over the wall and running to safety.... (Not firinf back at Me). His heart burst out the front of his chest cavity and onto the wall and he slid down, leave a huge blood trail. He can no longer shoot his M1 Garand at our Convoys. His bullet hit 3 feet from me on the passenger front. ;-) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21851523 United States08/21/2012 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| ruxpin User ID: 1420924 United States08/21/2012 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | show me actual purchase numbers....I'm in local gov and we "solicit" bids all the time and that's all this looks like to me.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22344510 until you can show me an invoice you got nothing. Yea, no fucking wonder nothing gets done; you solicit bids for shit have no intention of purchasing. That IS what you're saying, right? And by "local government", you mean your'e the shit-shoveler on Mackinac Island. I only believe half of what I read and even half of that is bullshit. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22013245 United States08/21/2012 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought the DHS would be using the military M4 and not the AR15 that way they could use miltary/ NATO spec ammo which is plentiful. Quoting: Nailer45 22229932 Is the DHS trying to drive up ammo prices by causing a shortage or is it prepping for something bigger? .223 and 5.56 are virtually the same chamber, my AR shoots both, and more than likely, service weapons do too. .223 is a bit cheaper though for some reason... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21581512 United States08/21/2012 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read the contract properly you fool. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22342936 "The guaranteed minimum of any contract awarded is 10,000 rounds and is applicable to the base year only." There isnt an actual order for 165 mill you numpty, its an estimate. This is atndard procedure in a contract that if needed in time of war that they are capable of supplying the higher amount. This is standard across any civi - military arms contract. It clearly states in what you linked "Minimum and Maximum Tresholds", and you even spelt that wrong buddy. Get educated on a subject before you post it in future. sorry dhs does not carry the AR15 except on texas border. Sorry, your wrong. Some Agents in Florida have them too. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22352596 United States08/21/2012 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | show me actual purchase numbers....I'm in local gov and we "solicit" bids all the time and that's all this looks like to me.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22344510 until you can show me an invoice you got nothing. Oh for fuck sakes. I guess you would not believe the person in front of you at McDonalds is ordering food until they have it in their hands. What a retarded attempt you bring at saying this is nothing. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1296034  Mexico08/21/2012 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read the contract properly you fool. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22342936 "The guaranteed minimum of any contract awarded is 10,000 rounds and is applicable to the base year only." There isnt an actual order for 165 mill you numpty, its an estimate. This is atndard procedure in a contract that if needed in time of war that they are capable of supplying the higher amount. This is standard across any civi - military arms contract. It clearly states in what you linked "Minimum and Maximum Tresholds", and you even spelt that wrong buddy. Get educated on a subject before you post it in future. sorry dhs does not carry the AR15 except on texas border. No but the DEA does |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17866364 United States08/21/2012 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | show me actual purchase numbers....I'm in local gov and we "solicit" bids all the time and that's all this looks like to me.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22344510 until you can show me an invoice you got nothing. Are you really this thick? Is your mind trying to wrap around this purchase not being real so that you can toss out all of the evidence of the other purchases??? Really??? Is this some kind of emotional defense mechanism at work here? Your thick ass, its a bid contract read it props, standard min max output contract, jeesh some people are thick, they havnt even orderd the rounds you fuckwit. Facts are wasted on this site. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18768713 United States08/21/2012 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know, I'm often inclined not to believe in all this martial law shit -- really on the fence -- but the shills are coming out in droves to discredit this story and the others (when Social Security and NOAA was purchasing ammo.) It makes you wonder.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1037709  Australia08/21/2012 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1037709 Australia08/21/2012 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AM I THE ONLY PERSON UPSET THAT WE ARE THAT POOR OF A SHOT? 200K ROUNDS FOR 1 SOLDIER?! Quoting: Schlotzsky I pride my self in being a good shooter. The shooter is moving, the target is moving, fully automatic and high adrenaline do not make for clean one-shot kills. I have never tried this type of shooting but could imagine a low shot-to-kill ratio. Exactly, like the time I shot the Haitian Gang Banger, I waiting till he reached for the top of the wall to scale over it and run, once his hand was on top, he was "Fully Committed" to get over the wall and running to safety.... (Not firinf back at Me). His heart burst out the front of his chest cavity and onto the wall and he slid down, leave a huge blood trail. He can no longer shoot his M1 Garand at our Convoys. His bullet hit 3 feet from me on the passenger front. ;-) Big tough man |
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| AdHocBOHICA User ID: 19723065 United States08/21/2012 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess theres no gun nutz on yet... 62grain are penatrator rounds! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16136779 (Wiki snip) "The 5.56×45mm NATO cartridge with the standard 62 gr. steel core bullets (NATO: SS109; U.S.: M855) will penetrate approximately 15 to 20 in (38 to 51 cm) into soft tissue in ideal circumstances. As with all spitzer shaped projectiles it is prone to yaw in soft tissue. However, at impact velocities above roughly 2,500 ft/s (760 m/s), it may yaw and then fragment at the cannelure (the crimping groove around the cylinder of the bullet).[15] These fragments can disperse through flesh and bone, inflicting additional internal injuries." So um yeah... thats what they are refering to. Funny tho... the same ones I buy! :) Game on bitchezzzzz Not necessarily correct, they could be barrier rounds. [link to www.google.com (secure)] One in the same.. penetrating, barrier penetrating, penetraters, potato... patato If your a shooter.......understand this, 223 or 5.56 Barrier rounds are far superior to any other loading including the green tip 5.56 "penetrater" loading's if engaging an individual through glass or car doors etc....... totally different animal. Apples and watermelons would be a better analogy. “Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” ~Seneca PS: I Stole this from another member.... ;) |
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