After Reading Ayn Rand´s "Atlas Shrugged" I must say... - It is happening TODAY | |
Rey Rogers (OP) User ID: 22941034 Spain 09/02/2012 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Published in 1957 - She must have been a visionary. "The book explores a dystopian United States where many of society's most productive citizens refuse to be exploited by increasing taxation and government regulations and go on strike. The refusal evokes the imagery of what would happen if the mythological Atlas refused to continue to hold up the world. They are led by John Galt. Galt describes the strike as "stopping the motor of the world" by withdrawing the minds that drive society's growth and productivity. In their efforts, these people "of the mind" hope to demonstrate that a world in which the individual is not free to create is doomed, that civilization cannot exist where every person is a slave to society and government, and that the destruction of the profit motive leads to the collapse of society. The protagonist, Dagny Taggart, sees society collapse around her as the government increasingly asserts control over all industry." [link to en.wikipedia.org] Last Edited by Rey Rogers on 09/02/2012 08:37 PM Time field researcher Dr David Anderson and his websites are missing. Why? Please discuss. Thread: Spacetime manipulation and the Dr David Anderson Enigma: Opening the road to time travel and limitless energy |
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Rey Rogers (OP) User ID: 22941034 Spain 09/02/2012 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP is just one more satanist who worships the whore of Babylon, Ayn Rand. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23043912 Fuck you, satanist. Really? Even if she was a satanist - does this in any way take away from her work? That´s like saying you do not listen to Mozart´s music because he was a little pervert. Time field researcher Dr David Anderson and his websites are missing. Why? Please discuss. Thread: Spacetime manipulation and the Dr David Anderson Enigma: Opening the road to time travel and limitless energy |
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Rey Rogers (OP) User ID: 22941034 Spain 09/02/2012 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are there my friend. Even some of the technology used. The thinkers are leaving society... Quoting: acegotflows The government seems to think that we need not think for ourselves. Time field researcher Dr David Anderson and his websites are missing. Why? Please discuss. Thread: Spacetime manipulation and the Dr David Anderson Enigma: Opening the road to time travel and limitless energy |
Rey Rogers (OP) User ID: 22941034 Spain 09/02/2012 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Atlas Shrugged was great. I think that all the selfish and self-absorbed rich douchebags should run off and start their own country and leave us alone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23018311 You did not read the last 100 pages did you? "I swear—by my life and my love of it—that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine." In other words - live long and prosper, but do not destroy society by false altruism/socialism. Time field researcher Dr David Anderson and his websites are missing. Why? Please discuss. Thread: Spacetime manipulation and the Dr David Anderson Enigma: Opening the road to time travel and limitless energy |
acegotflows User ID: 19532652 United States 09/02/2012 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth" |
Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain 09/02/2012 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd gladly read a copy in which they'd take out all the boring romantic feminine bullshit that's found in the beginning, I just couldn't keep going forward. Does it get really interesting at one chapter and just keeps going like that? I may give it another try. Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
Rey Rogers (OP) User ID: 22941034 Spain 09/02/2012 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They have tried for years to banish and demonize those who don't flying along. Too open minded as a child oh they have drugs and classes field that. Grow up with it still, oh you will get bad grades. Graduate and still think and there will be obstacles still. You almost HAVE ALto leave it all behind... Quoting: acegotflows It is definitely a mindset change for me - I never looked at objectivism this way. Basically it is not capitalism/free market that are the enemy, the real enemy are the forces that keep freemen and creativity down under the guise of socialism. Hmm. Time field researcher Dr David Anderson and his websites are missing. Why? Please discuss. Thread: Spacetime manipulation and the Dr David Anderson Enigma: Opening the road to time travel and limitless energy |
Rey Rogers (OP) User ID: 22941034 Spain 09/02/2012 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd gladly read a copy in which they'd take out all the boring romantic feminine bullshit that's found in the beginning, I just couldn't keep going forward. Does it get really interesting at one chapter and just keeps going like that? I may give it another try. Quoting: Manu-Koelbren It does get better. The book seems to explain why the world is falling apart and what to do about it. There is a movie that came out in 2011 which can be streamed online - I have not seen that yet. (Atlas Shrugged Part 1 of a scheduled 3) Time field researcher Dr David Anderson and his websites are missing. Why? Please discuss. Thread: Spacetime manipulation and the Dr David Anderson Enigma: Opening the road to time travel and limitless energy |
acegotflows User ID: 19532652 United States 09/02/2012 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They have tried for years to banish and demonize those who don't flying along. Too open minded as a child oh they have drugs and classes field that. Grow up with it still, oh you will get bad grades. Graduate and still think and there will be obstacles still. You almost HAVE ALto leave it all behind... Quoting: acegotflows It is definitely a mindset change for me - I never looked at objectivism this way. Basically it is not capitalism/free market that are the enemy, the real enemy are the forces that keep freemen and creativity down under the guise of socialism. Hmm. Sad but true. You can't live outside of their parameters without suffering and loss. I tried. Not working out that well for me... "a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth" |
Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain 09/02/2012 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd gladly read a copy in which they'd take out all the boring romantic feminine bullshit that's found in the beginning, I just couldn't keep going forward. Does it get really interesting at one chapter and just keeps going like that? I may give it another try. Quoting: Manu-Koelbren It does get better. The book seems to explain why the world is falling apart and what to do about it. There is a movie that came out in 2011 which can be streamed online - I have not seen that yet. (Atlas Shrugged Part 1 of a scheduled 3) I saw the movie and I think I will just wait for part two. It was well produced although more like tv series material, but got the point across just fine. Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23018311 United States 09/02/2012 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Atlas Shrugged was great. I think that all the selfish and self-absorbed rich douchebags should run off and start their own country and leave us alone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23018311 You did not read the last 100 pages did you? "I swear—by my life and my love of it—that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine." In other words - live long and prosper, but do not destroy society by false altruism/socialism. Still sounds douchy to me. |
The Gallows User ID: 1311324 United States 09/02/2012 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or she was given stuff to release. Brave New World 1984 THX 1138 Atlas Shrugged The Hunger Games Fiction... or game plan? Predictive programming. rhombus will set you free... — some try to tell me thoughts they cannot defend. just what you want to be, you will be in the end! — if you can't face the truth it's probably raping you from behind. |
acegotflows User ID: 19532652 United States 09/02/2012 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is pretty much written from a female perspective but the ideas are solid. Just a LOT of explanations involved. It could be 200 pages shorter, easily. "a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth" |
acegotflows User ID: 19532652 United States 09/02/2012 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or she was given stuff to release. Brave New World 1984 THX 1138 Atlas Shrugged The Hunger Games Fiction... or game plan? Predictive programming. Maybe, but she took a lot of heat and died like Tesla so I dunno. Maybe "a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth" |
Rey Rogers (OP) User ID: 22941034 Spain 09/02/2012 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is pretty much written from a female perspective but the ideas are solid. Just a LOT of explanations involved. It could be 200 pages shorter, easily. Quoting: acegotflows I agree 100% maybe even more. Lucky for my I can fast scan through those ramblings and find the real meat. Like the Galt speech. Time field researcher Dr David Anderson and his websites are missing. Why? Please discuss. Thread: Spacetime manipulation and the Dr David Anderson Enigma: Opening the road to time travel and limitless energy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22384705 United States 09/02/2012 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It does get better. The book seems to explain why the world is falling apart and what to do about it. Whatever you read of hers do not read "We the living" it only goes from bleak, to bleaker and then to bleakest, hard read. |
Rey Rogers (OP) User ID: 22941034 Spain 09/02/2012 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or she was given stuff to release. Quoting: The Gallows Brave New World 1984 THX 1138 Atlas Shrugged The Hunger Games Fiction... or game plan? Predictive programming. Could well be. But in Atlas Shrugged there a somewhat happy end. And a brave new world does not seem all that strange if you take a careful look at what Huxley tried to say. The essence is always ever increasing government involvement/control which inevitably leads to disaster. It that´s the game plan I am not playing! Time field researcher Dr David Anderson and his websites are missing. Why? Please discuss. Thread: Spacetime manipulation and the Dr David Anderson Enigma: Opening the road to time travel and limitless energy |
Rey Rogers (OP) User ID: 22941034 Spain 09/02/2012 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It does get better. The book seems to explain why the world is falling apart and what to do about it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22384705 Whatever you read of hers do not read "We the living" it only goes from bleak, to bleaker and then to bleakest, hard read. What about the Fountainhead? any good? Time field researcher Dr David Anderson and his websites are missing. Why? Please discuss. Thread: Spacetime manipulation and the Dr David Anderson Enigma: Opening the road to time travel and limitless energy |
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Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain 09/02/2012 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This one I enjoyed very much. A little preview in case you haven't seen it. Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
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Slueth User ID: 18950725 United States 09/02/2012 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The whole Satanist thing is offensive.She was not a satanist!Anton levy stoLe her premise and philosophy for his church.I believe she was atheist.Never the less the world is going down a very evil path right now do you think Jesus was for slavery?When you take 37 percent of my pay check and another 20 percent through sales tax real estate tax and so on and so I am a slave to the government I do not think that is the way the fore fathers envisioned this country.If you go back to 1776 the principles are sound and would doubt Ayn would change a thing .The problem is they have been perverted sorry altruism is evil you must take care of self FIRST .Hey OP have you read the FOUNTAINHEAD YET ANOTHER CLASSIC |
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acegotflows User ID: 19532652 United States 09/02/2012 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People throw labels out they don't understand. Is the Bible evil because of all the concepts added? Can't just blame the source for what people used it for. "a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth" |