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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8473155 United States 09/04/2012 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | solar power is standard, everyone has it. Quoting: Vandetta7 Our warmwater is COMPLETE generated by our solar panels. There is a new invention: [link to translate.google.at] A friend of mine has built his house with this opportunity, so he is 100% independent from the energy companies!!! Solar Energy is the next thing in the United States too. If the government would stop playing with their oil buddines and come grease some of these solar energy hands we'd be booming over here. |
lanman User ID: 9227545 United States 09/04/2012 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Feds and the banks made this mess on purpose, greedy fuchs they are, forgive every cent the public owes to any and all banks, call it even and start over....if anyone thinks otherwise your just as greedy and immoral as the jerks who got us into this mess, if you wanna disagree you have Benny blood in ya...... |
Vandetta7 User ID: 23144118 Germany 09/04/2012 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | solar power is standard, everyone has it. Quoting: Vandetta7 Our warmwater is COMPLETE generated by our solar panels. There is a new invention: [link to translate.google.at] A friend of mine has built his house with this opportunity, so he is 100% independent from the energy companies!!! Solar Energy is the next thing in the United States too. If the government would stop playing with their oil buddines and come grease some of these solar energy hands we'd be booming over here. yeah, we had the problem with the nuclear energy lobby...till FUKUSHIMA |
Fand User ID: 5768243 United States 09/04/2012 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The invention is called Erdwaerme = geothermal Quoting: Vandetta7 [link to erdwaermehaus.de] [link to translate.google.at] Awesome! Thanks for the info! I'll check it out. I miss being able to go everywhere without needing a car. I never had to drive when I lived over there! Too bad we left. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23182060 United States 09/04/2012 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember the name of that bill because It will change the world. Quoting: mems3 "Mr. CLARKE of Michigan introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Education and the Workforce, and in addition to the Committees on Foreign Affairs and Armed Services, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned A BILL To increase purchasing power, strengthen economic recovery, and restore fairness in financing higher education in the United States through student loan forgiveness, caps on interest rates on Federal student loans, and refinancing opportunities for private borrowers, and for other purposes. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled," Read all the goodies in the complete bill on the link. [link to www.forgivestudentloandebt.com] Please Pin and for once in your life contact your local representatives and TELL THEM TO SUPPORT THE BILL (or else) SCREW YOU!!!!! Pay your way like everyone else does!!!!!!! Broke dick!!!! Yeah fuck all the American born lazy ass fucks let's give Egypt another 10billion, oh don't forget the Isrealites they could use another 30 or 40 billion, Fuck lets pay for illegals free education and everything else, fuck the lazy ass American born fucking slobs. Damn we sure could use a lot more prisons to just is not enough room for deadbeat lazy fucks in there anymore. Lets just whip the fuck outta everyone. |
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Fand User ID: 5768243 United States 09/04/2012 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | solar power is standard, everyone has it. Quoting: Vandetta7 Our warmwater is COMPLETE generated by our solar panels. There is a new invention: [link to translate.google.at] A friend of mine has built his house with this opportunity, so he is 100% independent from the energy companies!!! Solar Energy is the next thing in the United States too. If the government would stop playing with their oil buddines and come grease some of these solar energy hands we'd be booming over here. yeah, we had the problem with the nuclear energy lobby...till FUKUSHIMA There's always a bright side. Nice chatting! Tchuss! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8036987 United States 09/04/2012 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll tell you what sucks. Being a student with a decent GPA, applying to Grad school, getting accepted, and realizing that you WILL FOOT THE ENTIRE BILL while the chinese and indian students in your classes have teaching assistantships that provided them with medical benefits, housing, and a STIPEND TO CARE FOR THEIR SPOUSE AND KIDS. I was born and raised in this country and NO SUCH OFFER was made to me despite my good grades and hard work. If they had TAKEN CARE OF ONE OF THEIR OWN CITIZENS WHO WAS JUST AS DESERVING AS THESE FOREIGN STUDENTS I would not be in a terrible financial situation and would be INVESTING AND GIVING BACK TO THIS COUNTRY instead of the 75% those T.A.'s who just went back b/c they could not even get citizenship in the end anyway. And this was at a state university by the way. American colleges' disgusting little secret that deserving and HARD WORKING U.S. born citizens are NOT being given the teaching assistantships that they are fully qualified for and instead being passed over for students from other countries. Yes, I'm bitter. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22780736 United States 09/04/2012 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But if everyone went to college and got a degree (because it was free, paid for, ect.), the market would suddenly be flooded with "qualified" applicants and that would drive wages even further down for college grads. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18768713 The big secret here is: not everyone is intended for college. Who else would clean up crap, dig holes and take hassles at the McD's drive-thru? Sad but true, thats how TPTB want it. That isn't how TPTB want it, that's just reality. Not everybody is supposed to get a fucking degree because most people are not college material. TPTB pushed the "everybody is entitled to a degree" bullshit so that broke ass welfare losers that don't have enough sense to pour piss out of a boot with instructions written on the heel would get into college for free so their presence would drive up the cost of tuition for all the fuckers paying either with cash (not many) or student loans (most people not on the dole) and then the broke ass welfare leeches with IQs of 70 or less would get dumbed down college degrees so the market would be flooded with degrees so wages would be driven down for everyone and all the people with IQs over 70 who took loans to pay for school would be strapped for life with debt in minimum wage jobs. Dig? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22780736 United States 09/04/2012 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember the name of that bill because It will change the world. Quoting: mems3 "Mr. CLARKE of Michigan introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Education and the Workforce, and in addition to the Committees on Foreign Affairs and Armed Services, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned A BILL To increase purchasing power, strengthen economic recovery, and restore fairness in financing higher education in the United States through student loan forgiveness, caps on interest rates on Federal student loans, and refinancing opportunities for private borrowers, and for other purposes. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled," Read all the goodies in the complete bill on the link. [link to www.forgivestudentloandebt.com] Please Pin and for once in your life contact your local representatives and TELL THEM TO SUPPORT THE BILL (or else) SCREW YOU!!!!! Pay your way like everyone else does!!!!!!! Broke dick!!!! Yeah fuck all the American born lazy ass fucks let's give Egypt another 10billion, oh don't forget the Isrealites they could use another 30 or 40 billion, Fuck lets pay for illegals free education and everything else, fuck the lazy ass American born fucking slobs. Damn we sure could use a lot more prisons to just is not enough room for deadbeat lazy fucks in there anymore. Lets just whip the fuck outta everyone. Fuck all the American born lazy ass fucks along with Egypt, Israel, illegal aliens, et al. The whole fuckin world needs to grow the hell up and start paying their own goddamned way. The end. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20179865 United States 09/04/2012 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember the name of that bill because It will change the world. Quoting: mems3 "Mr. CLARKE of Michigan introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Education and the Workforce, and in addition to the Committees on Foreign Affairs and Armed Services, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned A BILL To increase purchasing power, strengthen economic recovery, and restore fairness in financing higher education in the United States through student loan forgiveness, caps on interest rates on Federal student loans, and refinancing opportunities for private borrowers, and for other purposes. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled," Read all the goodies in the complete bill on the link. [link to www.forgivestudentloandebt.com] Please Pin and for once in your life contact your local representatives and TELL THEM TO SUPPORT THE BILL (or else) SCREW YOU!!!!! Pay your way like everyone else does!!!!!!! Broke dick!!!! Yeah fuck all the American born lazy ass fucks let's give Egypt another 10billion, oh don't forget the Isrealites they could use another 30 or 40 billion, Fuck lets pay for illegals free education and everything else, fuck the lazy ass American born fucking slobs. Damn we sure could use a lot more prisons to just is not enough room for deadbeat lazy fucks in there anymore. Lets just whip the fuck outta everyone. I am willing to bet anyone who is against this bill would be against every wasteful spending you outlined. And if you are against all of the things you mentioned but in support of this bill safe to assume you have student loan debt yourself. To be against the wasteful spending where it does not benefit you, but agree with wasteful spending when it is a benefit to you personally would be the definition of "conflict of interest" and in the same bed with "special interest" |
Passin' Through User ID: 14422899 United States 09/04/2012 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Got 35,000 in loans myself... paying them off as we speak... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23106908 Won't support the bill either... I'm my own man, I criticized Wall Street for taking bailouts... I'll not be a fucking hypocrite... you compare corrupt banker bailout with investment in education? Let me help you then. The more students there are the more teachers there are. More teachers more union members. Free education means more students. More students means more control over the peoples thoughts. The brainwashing begins in elementary school and continues. When they are in college that is funded fully by the gov then the indoctrination and community organizing really kicks in. Food Money Healthcare baby killings education and on and on It is government replacing God. It is all about control. Control the textbooks....and control the generation. You should know this. It was one of Hitler's mantras. “If Noah’s flood really did occur, what would you expect to find? Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth.” And guess what we find? Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23182060 United States 09/04/2012 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember the name of that bill because It will change the world. Quoting: mems3 "Mr. CLARKE of Michigan introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Education and the Workforce, and in addition to the Committees on Foreign Affairs and Armed Services, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned A BILL To increase purchasing power, strengthen economic recovery, and restore fairness in financing higher education in the United States through student loan forgiveness, caps on interest rates on Federal student loans, and refinancing opportunities for private borrowers, and for other purposes. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled," Read all the goodies in the complete bill on the link. [link to www.forgivestudentloandebt.com] Please Pin and for once in your life contact your local representatives and TELL THEM TO SUPPORT THE BILL (or else) SCREW YOU!!!!! Pay your way like everyone else does!!!!!!! Broke dick!!!! Yeah fuck all the American born lazy ass fucks let's give Egypt another 10billion, oh don't forget the Isrealites they could use another 30 or 40 billion, Fuck lets pay for illegals free education and everything else, fuck the lazy ass American born fucking slobs. Damn we sure could use a lot more prisons to just is not enough room for deadbeat lazy fucks in there anymore. Lets just whip the fuck outta everyone. Fuck all the American born lazy ass fucks along with Egypt, Israel, illegal aliens, et al. The whole fuckin world needs to grow the hell up and start paying their own goddamned way. The end. With what?? Pesos or Yuan? |
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Vandetta7 User ID: 23144118 Germany 09/04/2012 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | solar power is standard, everyone has it. Quoting: Vandetta7 Our warmwater is COMPLETE generated by our solar panels. There is a new invention: [link to translate.google.at] A friend of mine has built his house with this opportunity, so he is 100% independent from the energy companies!!! Solar Energy is the next thing in the United States too. If the government would stop playing with their oil buddines and come grease some of these solar energy hands we'd be booming over here. yeah, we had the problem with the nuclear energy lobby...till FUKUSHIMA There's always a bright side. Nice chatting! Tchuss! Ja, fand ich auch! Gute Nacht |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 942369 United States 09/04/2012 08:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My Brother paid off his student loan. The idiots misplaced the paperwork. They made him pay it a second time. Threatened legal action . He did. He is still wondering if the wonderkinder will make him pay a third time. Will he get a refund? Doubt it. If they completed college and obtained work with the degree in the field, then.. ok.. I guess. But if they partied, and goofed off , did not finish.. Make them pay it back. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1337441 United States 09/04/2012 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a complicated read that requires knowing what sections in another Law are relevant, but it looks as if you have to make 120 straight months of payments to be eligible. Suppose you never got a job out of college to begin with? You're not going to qualify. Similarly, suppose out of 120 months you missed even 1 month's payment, not sure if a person would be eligible? The max forgiveness is @$45,000, apparently. You'd have to make payments for 10 years before being eligible? OP... you read this thing closely?? As far as our government goes, they promise one thing and deliver another. Need more input to qualify the caveats.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23045486 Yeah, I read it too---looks like you have to be no more than 150% above poverty level, for one thing. This would give some relief to some people, but it is not sweeping legislation that benefits very many. |
Vandetta7 User ID: 23144118 Germany 09/04/2012 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Got 35,000 in loans myself... paying them off as we speak... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23106908 Won't support the bill either... I'm my own man, I criticized Wall Street for taking bailouts... I'll not be a fucking hypocrite... you compare corrupt banker bailout with investment in education? Let me help you then. The more students there are the more teachers there are. More teachers more union members. Free education means more students. More students means more control over the peoples thoughts. The brainwashing begins in elementary school and continues. When they are in college that is funded fully by the gov then the indoctrination and community organizing really kicks in. Food Money Healthcare baby killings education and on and on It is government replacing God. It is all about control. Control the textbooks....and control the generation. You should know this. It was one of Hitler's mantras. well, you should be able to think for yourself OF COURSE! Its part of the parents to raise their children to critical thinking people. believe me, i'm very critical with the government. My family often talks about decisions and what it means for us...but hey, for you it's all communism. the cold war lies have led to a very dangerous mindset. |
Passin' Through User ID: 14422899 United States 09/04/2012 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Got 35,000 in loans myself... paying them off as we speak... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23106908 Won't support the bill either... I'm my own man, I criticized Wall Street for taking bailouts... I'll not be a fucking hypocrite... you compare corrupt banker bailout with investment in education? Let me help you then. The more students there are the more teachers there are. More teachers more union members. Free education means more students. More students means more control over the peoples thoughts. The brainwashing begins in elementary school and continues. When they are in college that is funded fully by the gov then the indoctrination and community organizing really kicks in. Food Money Healthcare baby killings education and on and on It is government replacing God. It is all about control. Control the textbooks....and control the generation. You should know this. It was one of Hitler's mantras. well, you should be able to think for yourself OF COURSE! Its part of the parents to raise their children to critical thinking people. believe me, i'm very critical with the government. My family often talks about decisions and what it means for us...but hey, for you it's all communism. the cold war lies have led to a very dangerous mindset. Agreed. And this generation that is sending their children to school were also brought up by electronic babysitters that plopped their kids down in front of the state tv stations. “If Noah’s flood really did occur, what would you expect to find? Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth.” And guess what we find? Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11996258 United States 09/04/2012 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is meant to raise tuition costs so as to in the future force people to have to take out loans to pay for schooling. Quoting: Chrit Every single year tuition goes up automatically based on the amount of student aid available. If the government offers 8% more next year then tuition will go up 8% People have to realize schools raises the tuition every year to take the extra government money finical aid offers. You are being set up, once the debt is wiped there will be a run on the schools and prices will skyrocket even higher & this is exactly what they want to happen. Wait till you see the new interest rates on future student loans if they do this. After I saw this post I stopped reading. Why? Because you sir, nailed it. Unfortunately, people don't seem to understand this concept. Its the same thing that's happening with medical costs. Anytime the government guarantees to pay a certain amount, guess how much the (school, hospital, business, etc.) is going to charge for that service? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12300292 United States 09/04/2012 08:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | time to bailout the useless degree.... history, art and music etc... where are they going to find with these types of degrees ? and taxpayers are again on the hook for others' stupidity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12064276 I am so confused! You see, I have a useless, worthless degree in Music, and I have been gainfully employed in a fantastic, stable job, using said shitty degree, for over a decade. If you are curious, I have been able to pay on my graduate student loans (I never took a dime for my undergraduate education), along with my wife's undergraduate and graduate loans, without issue, using income earned from my frivolous, silly piece of paper most folks call a degree. I don't know what exactly "where are they going to find" means; I can only assume you meant "what type of job" History, Art, and Music majors can find with a degree in their fields of study. There are jobs out there for these degrees; it's up to the INDIVIDUAL to make himself employable in any industry. In summary, please STFU and have a nice day. |
Passin' Through User ID: 14422899 United States 09/04/2012 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I really have a hard time understanding why education is not free and available to anyone in this country that wants to better themselves. Quoting: GreyMatter "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer" - Benjamin Franklin “If Noah’s flood really did occur, what would you expect to find? Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth.” And guess what we find? Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22780736 United States 09/04/2012 08:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember the name of that bill because It will change the world. Quoting: mems3 "Mr. CLARKE of Michigan introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Education and the Workforce, and in addition to the Committees on Foreign Affairs and Armed Services, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned A BILL To increase purchasing power, strengthen economic recovery, and restore fairness in financing higher education in the United States through student loan forgiveness, caps on interest rates on Federal student loans, and refinancing opportunities for private borrowers, and for other purposes. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled," Read all the goodies in the complete bill on the link. [link to www.forgivestudentloandebt.com] Please Pin and for once in your life contact your local representatives and TELL THEM TO SUPPORT THE BILL (or else) SCREW YOU!!!!! Pay your way like everyone else does!!!!!!! Broke dick!!!! Yeah fuck all the American born lazy ass fucks let's give Egypt another 10billion, oh don't forget the Isrealites they could use another 30 or 40 billion, Fuck lets pay for illegals free education and everything else, fuck the lazy ass American born fucking slobs. Damn we sure could use a lot more prisons to just is not enough room for deadbeat lazy fucks in there anymore. Lets just whip the fuck outta everyone. I am willing to bet anyone who is against this bill would be against every wasteful spending you outlined. And if you are against all of the things you mentioned but in support of this bill safe to assume you have student loan debt yourself. To be against the wasteful spending where it does not benefit you, but agree with wasteful spending when it is a benefit to you personally would be the definition of "conflict of interest" and in the same bed with "special interest" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23182060 United States 09/04/2012 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I really have a hard time understanding why education is not free and available to anyone in this country that wants to better themselves. Quoting: GreyMatter "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer" - Benjamin Franklin That has nothing to do with education, knowledge should not be an obstical for any one. |
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