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Raven9 User ID: 19866620 United States 09/24/2012 07:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | woohoo, glad to live in New Jersey! If you don't want to vaccinate your children, that's your choice, but you do NOT have the right to make that choice for me and endanger my children by sending your possibly infected ones to public school!!! Vaccinations do not work 100% of the time, so even among vaccinated kids, there is still some risk posed by your unvaxed ones. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732 No one is forcing you to vaccinate you children; you simply cannot send them to public school. Homeschool them. what you believe is propaganda. Just as butter is re acknowledged as superior to hydrogenated vegetable oil, eggs and shrimp are good for you, coffee is good for you - you choose to listen to liars that have been shown to time after time peddle BS to market their poison. Since you believe vaccination is what they say it is I would remind you that normally medical claims are NOT recognized until completion of a double blind study. Please reference a double blind study showing vaccine efficacy. You can't? Then why do you parrot main stream media with no proof. Makes you sound like a gullible idiot. Telling it like a boss Moran for life <3 |
Kirk User ID: 10818676 United States 09/24/2012 07:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please pin this! Quoting: We're doomeda1 24006980 State governments are passing laws to get rid of exemptions for religious reasons... CA is half way there, New Jersey is on it's way.... Here's the 'progress' on the CA legislation: [link to www.historyofvaccines.org] 'progress' in New Jersey: [link to articles.philly.com] Passed in the state of Washington: [link to www.washingtonvotes.org] Please pin this! My wife works at a hospital in Pa. She is 4 months pregnant and forcing her to take the flu vaccine. there is a big push on in the medical profession to promote vaccination. Current stats show as low as 50% compliance with vaccination so if medical workers have a lower compliance they have a lower belief saturation and they are trying to mend this. If my wife were pregnant and some bastard came at her with a syringe of that crap I would change his looks for him - permanently. Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
Kirk User ID: 10818676 United States 09/24/2012 07:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | mixing infected, unvaccinated kids with vaccinated ones causes the disease to become immune to the vaccine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24322673 then we are on the way back to the 1600s where four out of five children died before their fifth birthday. plus parents who did vaccinate have to sufffer emotionally and financially because unvaccinated kids were the vessel that caused the disease in their kids. people forget average life expectancy has doubled (more in city and urban areas) since vaccinations. and you know this how? as for the 1600's there was no refrigeration - good nutrition was damn difficult. No antibiotics and damn little was known about disease cause. Read about poor old Dr. Lister (Listerine)and how his fellow doctors drove him to suicide belittling him and refusing to wash their hands between delivering babies. You have been taught to not question white coats with stethoscopes. NEVER blindly believe anyone. Not if you love your family. Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
Kirk User ID: 10818676 United States 09/24/2012 07:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In Colorado, all hospital workers including non patient contact employees are required to be immunized. With a religious waiver means the employee has to wear a mask during flu season (5 months tho I don't recall the exact months). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6673466 It is not reasonable or practical to wear a mask that long. exactly. Subtle blackmailers aren't they? Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
Kirk User ID: 10818676 United States 09/24/2012 07:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vaccines may well be a health concern, but that risk should be weighed against the risk of disease. Before vaccines something approaching half the children never lived to see adulthood. Obviously not all those deaths were from those particular diseases. With vaccines we have seen the rise of antibiotics, sanitation, and better healthcare in general. Quoting: Erectus So it would be hard to put a number on how many lives vaccines save, but I'll bet it's in the high tens of thousands per year. There is a trade off of more risk for lesser risk. you hope. Jonas Salk made the statement that most polio is caused by his vaccine. As for the epidemic of polio, chlorination of public pools began then. I also found it interesting some Drs were curing polio with intravenous vitamin C. The majority of Drs think vitamins just make you pee yellow. Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
mopar28m User ID: 14265444 United States 09/24/2012 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: mopar28m Yep and I'm enjoying every minute of it. I wrote a zinger of an article for the school newspaper about the flu shot. I've already gotten push back from one prof, I'm waiting for the nursing professors to start on me along with the nursing students. I wish there were a way I could read it? I can only imagine the type of brainwashed push-back you are getting? Here you go, I posted it on my blog too. [link to vaccinefreehealth.blogspot.com] Great article Mop. You included many of the Dr.'s and studies within the body of the article, but did anyone ask for a References/Sources cited/Bibliography addendum? Your cred. is golden with me, but I could see how someone may ask for these things esp. in a school setting? For the newspaper, I don't need to cite sources but I do need to be ready just in case. The quotes from Dr Eisenstein & Dr Rohlfson were quotes from interviews I did with them. vaccinefreehealth blogspot com The risk far outweighs any benefit as the risk will vary from child to child. facebook.com/graphixyourway |
mopar28m User ID: 14265444 United States 09/24/2012 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please pin this! Quoting: We're doomeda1 24006980 State governments are passing laws to get rid of exemptions for religious reasons... CA is half way there, New Jersey is on it's way.... Here's the 'progress' on the CA legislation: [link to www.historyofvaccines.org] 'progress' in New Jersey: [link to articles.philly.com] Passed in the state of Washington: [link to www.washingtonvotes.org] Please pin this! My wife works at a hospital in Pa. She is 4 months pregnant and forcing her to take the flu vaccine. Don't let her do it. The insert that comes with the shot says it shouldn't be given to pregnant women unless clearly needed. No safety studies have been done with pregnant women & it could affect the baby & her fertility. (again quoting the insert) There is 25 mcg of mercury in the shot. Employers have to make reasonable accomodations for religious beliefs. She can say thats its against her religious beliefs to get shots. vaccinefreehealth blogspot com The risk far outweighs any benefit as the risk will vary from child to child. facebook.com/graphixyourway |
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iamlizzyb User ID: 16192495 United States 09/24/2012 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | mixing infected, unvaccinated kids with vaccinated ones causes the disease to become immune to the vaccine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24322673 then we are on the way back to the 1600s where four out of five children died before their fifth birthday. plus parents who did vaccinate have to sufffer emotionally and financially because unvaccinated kids were the vessel that caused the disease in their kids. people forget average life expectancy has doubled (more in city and urban areas) since vaccinations. You can not compare apples to oranges. Comparing not vaccinating now to the deaths and epidemics in the 1600's, is absurd. The reason death was so prolific, was due to lack of nutrition, hygiene, pests, ect.. Please get your facts straight and stop fear mongering. |
DawaSatso User ID: 16213681 United States 09/24/2012 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | VACCINES PROTECT YOU OR ANYONE ELSE AGAINST NOTHING; THEY ONLY CAUSE HARM. The evidence is becoming more and more overwhelming. Quoting: UseLess RepEATER If you were around in the 50s in the U.S. and the polio and iron lung that sometimes went with it.... And then saw polio wiped out en masse with a couple of vaccines in the states... You wouldn't say that. As it is, you've shown your ignorance of basic history. Which I see all the time in forums like this. You weren't there, you did not witness what I've said for yourself (I was there, by the way). You listen to hyper-fear and have concluded all vaccines are evil. You've screwed your own brain... not just by letting someone else screw your brain... but continuing that all on your own. If you don't believe me, research the stats for polio before and after the two vaccines. With respect. In the 50's you had only a few necessary vaccines not 24, when pharma responded to a need, when they were tested before marketing, when they were not full of dangerous additives. When autism was 1 in 10,000 not 1 in 65. When cows were just cows smiling at you from the meadow. BTW, in the 50's bet it was rare to have a classmate down with leukemia or out of their skulls from psych drugs and I bet you didn't hear of many kids dying of disease either. Not like now. Nothing like now. I spoke to a sweet 22 yr old girl in my neighborhood just a year ago who said "I don't know if I'm sterile" from the cervical cancer vaccine the doc gave her by surprise while her mother was in the waiting room. Needless to say, should a beautiful kid be worried she will not have little babies she longs to enfold within 10 years? Or should a dr take it upon themselves or a society to poison and sterilize a person in AMBUSH. Dr (nurse) tried to get past me despite my wishes vaccinating my 2 yr old son, but i grabbed her wrist and read the label for what she was about to give him..sure enough, DPT (didn't happen). |
Weltsmertz User ID: 21165448 United States 09/24/2012 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what.. if you don't like it get the hell out of your country.. there is a whole world out there.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10097155 Don't want to or cant get out of your country .. then rise up and take your country back.. Just want to sit around and whine on the internet. Kickback and stfu. SO WTF are YOU DOING? Because you are on the internet and sound kinda whinny, so "Kickback and STFU" was not your choice! Fill us in, come one...what are YOU DOING? A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything. Friedrich Nietzsche if I did not feel so sad as I look at them. Sad because they do not know the truth and I do know it. Oh, how hard it is to be the only one who knows the truth! But they won't understand that. No, they won't understand it." --from The Dream of a Ridiculous Man (1877) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3152269 United States 09/24/2012 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vaccines may well be a health concern, but that risk should be weighed against the risk of disease. Before vaccines something approaching half the children never lived to see adulthood. Obviously not all those deaths were from those particular diseases. With vaccines we have seen the rise of antibiotics, sanitation, and better healthcare in general. Quoting: Erectus So it would be hard to put a number on how many lives vaccines save, but I'll bet it's in the high tens of thousands per year. There is a trade off of more risk for lesser risk. FALSE! Vaccines never stopped the spread of any disease. It is a well Established fact that vaccines were introduced AFTER the introduction of clean running water almost totally eradicated communicable diseases. By years. Most diseases were history before mass vaccines were introduced. Do your homework before you regurgitate MSM bullshit lies. You might be responsible for hurting someone. Having that karma would really suck. Being clean kills disease. Vaccines are not effective. They only injur the recipient. |
Dried Up Hag User ID: 1443836 United States 09/24/2012 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17300417 If you were around in the 50s in the U.S. and the polio and iron lung that sometimes went with it.... And then saw polio wiped out en masse with a couple of vaccines in the states... You wouldn't say that. As it is, you've shown your ignorance of basic history. Which I see all the time in forums like this. You weren't there, you did not witness what I've said for yourself (I was there, by the way). You listen to hyper-fear and have concluded all vaccines are evil. You've screwed your own brain... not just by letting someone else screw your brain... but continuing that all on your own. If you don't believe me, research the stats for polio before and after the two vaccines. Hello, mindless dipshit. How are you tonight? So... Is it safe for us to assume hat you want this shit pumped into people and their children by force? My son developed a severe and permanent Neurological disorder immediately following his first and last shot with mercury preservative, at age four. Why do they inject mercury into four year olds? Since they insist on injecting what is demonstrated as toxic they must have a motive. Population control is something they believe in. vaccines have been linked to miscarriage and sterility. This is a very good point that should cause all people to pause and ponder. For HUNDREDS of years the toxicity of mercury to the human brain and body has been a VERY WELL KNOWN AND ESTABLISHED MEDICAL/SCIENTIFIC FACT. So why would the medical community insist upon injecting it into human beings? About a year ago, I read a quote by Sir Isaac Newton regarding mercury. It was proven posthumously, that at the time of his death his body had a 75% toxicity level of mercury, if my memory serves me correctly. He was quoted at one point as saying that the rulers of this world will not allow the masses to know the true properties of mercury....can't find the quote....but will post if I do. Btw - I'm a parent who doesn't vaccinate my kids. I did at first, but then regretted being pressured into it. My children do not ever get sick at all. They are also homeschooled. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4523811 United States 09/24/2012 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | woohoo, glad to live in New Jersey! If you don't want to vaccinate your children, that's your choice, but you do NOT have the right to make that choice for me and endanger my children by sending your possibly infected ones to public school!!! Vaccinations do not work 100% of the time, so even among vaccinated kids, there is still some risk posed by your unvaxed ones. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732 No one is forcing you to vaccinate you children; you simply cannot send them to public school. Homeschool them. You ignorant baboon! Guess what, they do have that right and this is why we live in a free society. If you do not respect or support freedom then by all means go somewhere else. Your logic is so flawed it's disturbing. Should I start screaming that the car companies must no longer sell gasoline because they have no right to pollute the air I breath, or wireless companies must cease to exist because of the wireless contamination they cause which has enormous links to ill health. Where freedoms occur both good and bad exists. Our children are endangered in many ways by living in this world and often we have no choice in the matter but we have the freedom to decide what is best for our family, our spirits, our religion and our beliefs. Everyone has their own. That's the idea and we strive to find a common ground, but that common ground should never be forced. It is the unvaccinated kids who are most at risk. If your precious poison works to min. the risk of such an exposure, then by all means sit back and STFU and go suck your latte. There is a larger population of vaccinated children spreading sickness than unvaccinated ones. Just look at the statistics. Most of the outbreaks occurred among vaccinated children. People like this choose to close their eyes because they are lazy or accepting of everything because they have taken the mental high road and believe in the goodness of mankind. Look around you, the sickness persists. They cure one thing and they invent another. We as a whole are fascinated with the destruction of our species because we cannot accept freedom. We cannot tolerate differing views. We cannot respect another persons rights to live amongst us if it encroaches on our rights or our precious egos or creates some element of risk. Parents are afraid to stand up and take action and those who don't should be the ones who are negligent of their children's own safety because they trust in a system that cares not for their safety. Additionally, many of these childhood illnesses are far less severe when a child builds a natural immunity to the disease. Often later in life it is the vaccinated children who are at risk because of the need for repeated vaccinations with a now compromised immune system. It is also this perpetual unnatural bombardment that smacks a child's immune system and makes them so much more susceptible to other illnesses. I suppose that you support the armed guards in the schools, child locator identity tags, the terror drills, the handing out of birth control without parental consent, the right of the schools to forceably vaccinate without a parents approval, the right of the schools to expel students for scribbling art that even vaguely resembles anything remotely violent while at the same time the parents let the children spend countless hours in front of the TV or on the internet playing games because they are absent (willingly or unwillingly) or they are simply self absorbed and treat their children as just another object of possession. The list goes on and it is endless. Public schools are a debacle. We do not educate the children we babysit and brainwash them into acceptance. We give them empty foundations of regurgitated matter so that they have almost zero ability to lead and form new schools of thought. The world is quickly encroaching and minimizing our human rights and daily dignity and we accept it because we have been taught to. It is reprehensible. We feel it is acceptable to separate church and state yet we print In God We Trust of every piece of currency we hold. It is the lack of any religion in State that has created our moral degradation. People openly pray in school and they are condemned or reprimanded. People try to teach moral and ethical boundaries or other possible versions of history and they are shown the door. But preach open acceptance of homosexuality, abortion, early sexual education, pro-semetic speach, etc. and this is perfectly within the agenda. Schools are experimental playgrounds for these psychopaths and they have zero right to mandate our human bodies. Yes one can home school (and of course it is the better route without a doubt if done properly) but what about the poor people who cannot and they are indoctrinated with this psychopathic bullshit such that they no longer feel free to choose or they simply do not know how to choose because their predecessors have allowed for the encroachment to occur and all paths have since been blocked. This is what they are doing. We have military soldiers who are already forced experiments and they do so willingly but our children cannot protect themselves. We are their protectors. Not the towns, not the states, not the government, but the PARENTS! Tell me, when a child is just receiving their early vaccines they are now offering super-bundles like fucking cheerios in a box. Where on earth is a poor child ever bombarded with that sort of toxin all at once unless they have fallen into a pit of dead people all suffering from various sicknesses? But this is the sort of complacent lazy marketing that they are pushing. One stop shopping for the busy soccer mom. It is obscene to even accept that as OK. Yet parents are surprised when their child is suddenly ruined days after receiving the perfect storm or even limited dosages. In the 1950's when Polio was big, they were vaccinating with live virus's. My uncle missed that day of school and came the next day. He was stricken down with Polio and it ruined his life. People should be more afraid of the complacent people who may suffer the mental illness because they are the ones chipping away with the hammers at the foundation of American freedom. Open your mind and shut your mouth! |
Dried Up Hag User ID: 1443836 United States 09/24/2012 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | woohoo, glad to live in New Jersey! If you don't want to vaccinate your children, that's your choice, but you do NOT have the right to make that choice for me and endanger my children by sending your possibly infected ones to public school!!! Vaccinations do not work 100% of the time, so even among vaccinated kids, there is still some risk posed by your unvaxed ones. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5240732 No one is forcing you to vaccinate you children; you simply cannot send them to public school. Homeschool them. You ignorant baboon! Guess what, they do have that right and this is why we live in a free society. If you do not respect or support freedom then by all means go somewhere else. Your logic is so flawed it's disturbing. Should I start screaming that the car companies must no longer sell gasoline because they have no right to pollute the air I breath, or wireless companies must cease to exist because of the wireless contamination they cause which has enormous links to ill health. Where freedoms occur both good and bad exists. Our children are endangered in many ways by living in this world and often we have no choice in the matter but we have the freedom to decide what is best for our family, our spirits, our religion and our beliefs. Everyone has their own. That's the idea and we strive to find a common ground, but that common ground should never be forced. It is the unvaccinated kids who are most at risk. If your precious poison works to min. the risk of such an exposure, then by all means sit back and STFU and go suck your latte. There is a larger population of vaccinated children spreading sickness than unvaccinated ones. Just look at the statistics. Most of the outbreaks occurred among vaccinated children. People like this choose to close their eyes because they are lazy or accepting of everything because they have taken the mental high road and believe in the goodness of mankind. Look around you, the sickness persists. They cure one thing and they invent another. We as a whole are fascinated with the destruction of our species because we cannot accept freedom. We cannot tolerate differing views. We cannot respect another persons rights to live amongst us if it encroaches on our rights or our precious egos or creates some element of risk. Parents are afraid to stand up and take action and those who don't should be the ones who are negligent of their children's own safety because they trust in a system that cares not for their safety. Additionally, many of these childhood illnesses are far less severe when a child builds a natural immunity to the disease. Often later in life it is the vaccinated children who are at risk because of the need for repeated vaccinations with a now compromised immune system. It is also this perpetual unnatural bombardment that smacks a child's immune system and makes them so much more susceptible to other illnesses. I suppose that you support the armed guards in the schools, child locator identity tags, the terror drills, the handing out of birth control without parental consent, the right of the schools to forceably vaccinate without a parents approval, the right of the schools to expel students for scribbling art that even vaguely resembles anything remotely violent while at the same time the parents let the children spend countless hours in front of the TV or on the internet playing games because they are absent (willingly or unwillingly) or they are simply self absorbed and treat their children as just another object of possession. The list goes on and it is endless. Public schools are a debacle. We do not educate the children we babysit and brainwash them into acceptance. We give them empty foundations of regurgitated matter so that they have almost zero ability to lead and form new schools of thought. The world is quickly encroaching and minimizing our human rights and daily dignity and we accept it because we have been taught to. It is reprehensible. We feel it is acceptable to separate church and state yet we print In God We Trust of every piece of currency we hold. It is the lack of any religion in State that has created our moral degradation. People openly pray in school and they are condemned or reprimanded. People try to teach moral and ethical boundaries or other possible versions of history and they are shown the door. But preach open acceptance of homosexuality, abortion, early sexual education, pro-semetic speach, etc. and this is perfectly within the agenda. Schools are experimental playgrounds for these psychopaths and they have zero right to mandate our human bodies. Yes one can home school (and of course it is the better route without a doubt if done properly) but what about the poor people who cannot and they are indoctrinated with this psychopathic bullshit such that they no longer feel free to choose or they simply do not know how to choose because their predecessors have allowed for the encroachment to occur and all paths have since been blocked. This is what they are doing. We have military soldiers who are already forced experiments and they do so willingly but our children cannot protect themselves. We are their protectors. Not the towns, not the states, not the government, but the PARENTS! Tell me, when a child is just receiving their early vaccines they are now offering super-bundles like fucking cheerios in a box. Where on earth is a poor child ever bombarded with that sort of toxin all at once unless they have fallen into a pit of dead people all suffering from various sicknesses? But this is the sort of complacent lazy marketing that they are pushing. One stop shopping for the busy soccer mom. It is obscene to even accept that as OK. Yet parents are surprised when their child is suddenly ruined days after receiving the perfect storm or even limited dosages. In the 1950's when Polio was big, they were vaccinating with live virus's. My uncle missed that day of school and came the next day. He was stricken down with Polio and it ruined his life. People should be more afraid of the complacent people who may suffer the mental illness because they are the ones chipping away with the hammers at the foundation of American freedom. Open your mind and shut your mouth! Excellent, excellent post!!!!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17464358 United States 09/24/2012 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | polio vaccine, based on one serotype of a live but attenuated (weakened) virus, was developed by the virologist Hilary Koprowski. Koprowski's prototype vaccine was given to an eight-year-old boy on February 27, 1950. Notice the year this was done! In the United States, the 1952 polio epidemic became the worst outbreak in the nation's history. Of nearly 58,000 cases reported that year 3,145 died and 21,269 were left with mild to disabling paralysis. Now notice the year this was! My son is 24 he was vaccinated he had chicken pox and measles and alway had ear infections caught every cold around. My 2 daughters age 12 and 14 were vaccinated some when they were real young but not alot and now I have stopped . My oldest daughter had asthma till she was 6(stopped getting her vaccinated and asthma is now gone Both my girls never had chicken pox or measles( because they never got the shots) I am just trying to say I also thought I was doing the right thing for my kids. I haven't given my girls any vaccinations or antibiotics of any kind in 8 years and they haven't even had so much as a cold.... Just My 2¢ |