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Wanna End Foodstamps? Wanna End Welfare? Raise The Minimum Wage To $10.00 Per Hr.

 
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Those demanding a min wage increase are economic illiterates.

What happens when you do that is the businesses then need to raise their prices to cover their increased labor costs. This wipes out the wage rise.

And it's not just min wages that go up - the whole wage scale shifts higher to accomodate the increase on the bottom end. So the price increases reflect this entire shift and will render any wage increase moot because of higher prices.

Dumbasses.
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That's the moron argument that doesn't hold water.
There are no studies that show an increase in the minimum wage has caused inflation.
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it would infuse more money into the economy
thus stimulating it
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Where are all the haters now? Yow wanna enjoy hating the victim some more or do you want to create a real solution.

America needs a minimum wage of $10.00 an hour just to be able to survive and that is with benefits.

Without benefits the minimum wage should be at least $11.50 per hour.

What Say Ye?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14159363


"what say ye"? You're a high school idiot. There should not be a minimum wage. If you are willing to work for a buck an hour why my idiot friend should the government tell you, YOU CAN'T. Be sure to eat your veggies and don't buy a drink greater than 16ozs.... Oh yeah baby, let the government tell you what to do, when to it. Maybe they can help you with your bowel moments too...

The minimum wage is for Honey Boo Boos of the voting public. Are you a "Honey Boo Boo"?
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Even if you were willing to work for $1 an hour, could you pay for rent and food on about $40 per week?
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Re: Wanna End Foodstamps? Wanna End Welfare? Raise The Minimum Wage To $10.00 Per Hr.
1. Take away welfare from the Gov, and put it back in the peoples hands once again.

2. Have no min wage

3. Get rid of Federal taxes and all federal programs except state taxes and programs
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Where are all the haters now? Yow wanna enjoy hating the victim some more or do you want to create a real solution.

America needs a minimum wage of $10.00 an hour just to be able to survive and that is with benefits.

Without benefits the minimum wage should be at least $11.50 per hour.

What Say Ye?
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there shouldnt be a mim wage period
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It's no exaggeration to say that the business model of America's low-wage employers depends on a generous government safety net, since without that net many of their workers would not be able to survive. So all of us are subsidizing the wealthy owners and executives of Wal-Mart, McDonalds, and Target. Alas, few of us seem to realize this.

All of us are hurt, too, by the way that the low-wage model drags down economic growth. If you give a low-wage worker higher wages, they immediately pump that money back into the economy through more spending. But if you give a CEO another few million dollars in compensation, he'll most likely just plow that money into his stock portfolio or other savings vehicles, which doesn't do much for the economy since capital is cheap right now and customers are scarce.

If we want an economy with robust consumer demand, workers need to a bigger slice of the pie. Business leaders once understood that elementary fact.

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That's the moron argument that doesn't hold water.
There are no studies that show an increase in the minimum wage has caused inflation.
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My God are you stupid!!!!

When I was a boy, the minimum wage was $1.25 an hour.

Gasoline was $0.15 a gallon.

You could buy 7 gallons of gasoline for an hour's work.

Today gas is $4.00 a gallon.

You would need a minimum wage of $28.00 an hour to equal my minimum wage in 1965 in purchasing power.

But, no, you people are earning only $7.50 an hour now for minimum wage... maybe, what, $10.00?

AAHAHAHAHahahahahah....

You're making about 35% of my minimum wage now.

And you know why?

BECAUSE THE MINIMUM WAGE WAS RAISED AND INFLATION ATE UP EVERY BIT OF YOUR GAIN AND THEN HALF AGAIN AS MUCH.

DUMBASSES!!!!
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Where are all the haters now? Yow wanna enjoy hating the victim some more or do you want to create a real solution.

America needs a minimum wage of $10.00 an hour just to be able to survive and that is with benefits.

Without benefits the minimum wage should be at least $11.50 per hour.

What Say Ye?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14159363


You're wrong.

Here's how you end welfare and food stamps and other entitlements:

NO MORE. NO WORK = NO EAT = DIE

That's what made America the best nation on Earth.

Minimal government; minimal federal funding. Up until 1913 there was no income tax.

NO WORK = NO EAT = DIE
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5248308


work?
Laugh thought id die.
die?
Somebody would have to bury me.
Bury me ?
bury me cost money.
Money means work.
work? laugh thought id die........bump
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a true capitalistic economy would have no minimum wage at all

the free market would dictate the going rate for skilled and unskilled labor

where we went wrong was allowing the USA to stray from it's hardcore founding principles

USA was not founded on the idea of dictating a wage or taxing it for that matter
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WoW!! Trin - RIGHT ON!!!!

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Those demanding a min wage increase are economic illiterates.

What happens when you do that is the businesses then need to raise their prices to cover their increased labor costs. This wipes out the wage rise.

And it's not just min wages that go up - the whole wage scale shifts higher to accomodate the increase on the bottom end. So the price increases reflect this entire shift and will render any wage increase moot because of higher prices.

Dumbasses.
 Quoting: GreenRaven@att.net


That's the moron argument that doesn't hold water.
There are no studies that show an increase in the minimum wage has caused inflation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24599639


Have you been to arby's lately?
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cum hoc ergo propter hoc
 Quoting: Wonkish

You're right, wonkish.


Big Roast Beef is out to get us. Has nothing to do with wages.
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I agree
If you dont like the wages , dont work.
Learn to live on the streets.

Young generation dont have kids so you have no obligations.

That is the only way to change the world.

Refuse to be a slave. Dont join the system.
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Re: Wanna End Foodstamps? Wanna End Welfare? Raise The Minimum Wage To $10.00 Per Hr.
Where are all the haters now? Yow wanna enjoy hating the victim some more or do you want to create a real solution.

America needs a minimum wage of $10.00 an hour just to be able to survive and that is with benefits.

Without benefits the minimum wage should be at least $11.50 per hour.

What Say Ye?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14159363


"what say ye"? You're a high school idiot. There should not be a minimum wage. If you are willing to work for a buck an hour why my idiot friend should the government tell you, YOU CAN'T. Be sure to eat your veggies and don't buy a drink greater than 16ozs.... Oh yeah baby, let the government tell you what to do, when to it. Maybe they can help you with your bowel moments too...

The minimum wage is for Honey Boo Boos of the voting public. Are you a "Honey Boo Boo"?
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Even if you were willing to work for $1 an hour, could you pay for rent and food on about $40 per week?
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


DON'T TAKE THE JOB. But, maybe your 12 year old son might like it. Oh that's right, we don't let 12 year olds work... unless it's on a farm.... driving heavy farm equipment and they work for room and board.

You didn't answer the question: Are you a "Honey Boo Boo" voter? Did you get your Obama phone yet...? Hey, here something you might like, 7/11 is giving away FREE Obama coffee this week.... run "Honey Boo Boo" run.... Free Obama stuff!!!
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You repubtards really just want to sent us back about a 100 years don't you? Times were never better than when we had to spend our money in the company store. Right?

Idiots.
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Minimum wage keeps many people out of the work force due to no skills. This keeps them on government aid the rest of their life. Free market is the way to go not government intervention which ends up causing us to outsource jobs, and use illegal aliens. Good try though.
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If your premise has any validity, you should call for a minimum wage of $1000 per hour.
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Where are all the haters now? Yow wanna enjoy hating the victim some more or do you want to create a real solution.

America needs a minimum wage of $10.00 an hour just to be able to survive and that is with benefits.

Without benefits the minimum wage should be at least $11.50 per hour.

What Say Ye?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14159363


You're wrong.

Here's how you end welfare and food stamps and other entitlements:

NO MORE. NO WORK = NO EAT = DIE

That's what made America the best nation on Earth.

Minimal government; minimal federal funding. Up until 1913 there was no income tax.

NO WORK = NO EAT = DIE
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5248308


Minimum wage should be $0.00

You get paid what you're worth and not a penny more.

And if you're a stupid roid, you get fired for being a stupid roid.

Lazy bastards starve.

Stupid bastards starve.

It's called EVOLUTION, people.
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It's called SLAVERY
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which america was a world leader in a few years ago.

And still is if you count the prison factory's.
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the problem is the upper end wages.

You need a maximum wage.

If you are going to have a minimum , you also need a maximum.

You have to many wealthy people " aka" multi-million/billionaires. Business income to be maintained within a business , not personal profit.
All Profits should remain in a business account , with stiff penalty's for anyone taking out over 500 thousand every 5 years for personal accounts.

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it would infuse more money into the economy
thus stimulating it
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exactly.

The more the slaves EARN ...the MORE they spend.

simple economics.
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Where are all the haters now? Yow wanna enjoy hating the victim some more or do you want to create a real solution.

America needs a minimum wage of $10.00 an hour just to be able to survive and that is with benefits.

Without benefits the minimum wage should be at least $11.50 per hour.

What Say Ye?
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You all are missing the point why all these programs were created in the first place. The programs create no inflation because the dollars used to fund them are just recycled dollars gained and re-distributed from taxes. Employment on the other hand creates massive inflation because when you have Production/Investment/Output you utilize the fractional lending system (how the monetary system works and how dollars are created) and creates more money from nothing faster (That means for every dollar saved in a bank (from production) that bank lends out $9 dollars created out of thin air and it is put on their balance sheet as a receivable (asset).
You must realize you cannot have this inflation domestically (employment) while we are distributing freshly printed dollars to the rest of the world through the reserve currency system while trying to print the worlds banks back into solvency. The combined inflation of employment domestically and the printing of money would overwhelm the system with inflation and kill the dollar ahead of schedule. Why do you think "Green" energies or even our domestic over abundance of NG is never utilized and made to fail?

You guessed it! To save the Reserve/Petrodollar status of the U.S.Dollar and it's use worldwide. Rather simple really!

There is no intent to end welfare or people feeding off the Goberment dole. You people are trying to over think a simple explanation.

Really !
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Where are all the haters now? Yow wanna enjoy hating the victim some more or do you want to create a real solution.

America needs a minimum wage of $10.00 an hour just to be able to survive and that is with benefits.

Without benefits the minimum wage should be at least $11.50 per hour.

What Say Ye?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14159363


"what say ye"? You're a high school idiot. There should not be a minimum wage. If you are willing to work for a buck an hour why my idiot friend should the government tell you, YOU CAN'T. Be sure to eat your veggies and don't buy a drink greater than 16ozs.... Oh yeah baby, let the government tell you what to do, when to it. Maybe they can help you with your bowel moments too...

The minimum wage is for Honey Boo Boos of the voting public. Are you a "Honey Boo Boo"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23719187


Even if you were willing to work for $1 an hour, could you pay for rent and food on about $40 per week?
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


DON'T TAKE THE JOB. But, maybe your 12 year old son might like it. Oh that's right, we don't let 12 year olds work... unless it's on a farm.... driving heavy farm equipment and they work for room and board.

You didn't answer the question: Are you a "Honey Boo Boo" voter? Did you get your Obama phone yet...? Hey, here something you might like, 7/11 is giving away FREE Obama coffee this week.... run "Honey Boo Boo" run.... Free Obama stuff!!!
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As it happens I'd vote for Jill Stein were I American, so no, I wouldn't vote for Obama.
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Where are all the haters now? Yow wanna enjoy hating the victim some more or do you want to create a real solution.

America needs a minimum wage of $10.00 an hour just to be able to survive and that is with benefits.

Without benefits the minimum wage should be at least $11.50 per hour.

What Say Ye?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14159363


"what say ye"? You're a high school idiot. There should not be a minimum wage. If you are willing to work for a buck an hour why my idiot friend should the government tell you, YOU CAN'T. Be sure to eat your veggies and don't buy a drink greater than 16ozs.... Oh yeah baby, let the government tell you what to do, when to it. Maybe they can help you with your bowel moments too...

The minimum wage is for Honey Boo Boos of the voting public. Are you a "Honey Boo Boo"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23719187


Even if you were willing to work for $1 an hour, could you pay for rent and food on about $40 per week?
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


DON'T TAKE THE JOB. But, maybe your 12 year old son might like it. Oh that's right, we don't let 12 year olds work... unless it's on a farm.... driving heavy farm equipment and they work for room and board.

You didn't answer the question: Are you a "Honey Boo Boo" voter? Did you get your Obama phone yet...? Hey, here something you might like, 7/11 is giving away FREE Obama coffee this week.... run "Honey Boo Boo" run.... Free Obama stuff!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23719187


The economy is fucked and you think the people at the bottom did it! rofl
We live in a Jenga world. That shit falls from the top.
Look at Obama phone lady, does she look like she has the QE3 dollars.
The economy is fucked and poor people are still poor
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You raise minimum wage, the price of labor goes up, the price of the product goes up, it becomes -even more- attractive for companies to export labor overseas...

I'm so tired of these liberal idiots coming here and bring their economic solutions dreamt up by people like Cornelius West--people who -don't- have experience in business.

The problem is stupid people like the OP.
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Corporations have always tried to lower the cost of labor to as close to zero as they can get. That's why they have moved most manufacturing overseas where labor is dirt cheap, with no health benefits, or environmental regulations or pensions.

That's where an unregulated free market gets you: a polluted, toxic hell on earth with no middle class, just the super rich and the peasant class. Is that the world we want to live in? And with no middle class, who's going to buy the cars and washing machines and iPhones? No one.

So in the end, it's not even in the corporations interest to underpay their labor force or to pollute the planet. But they don't see the big picture.

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a true capitalistic economy would have no minimum wage at all

the free market would dictate the going rate for skilled and unskilled labor

where we went wrong was allowing the USA to stray from it's hardcore founding principles

USA was not founded on the idea of dictating a wage or taxing it for that matter
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yeah sadly there is no more land to take over. and we cant just walk around with pistols anymore.
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Wanna end poverty?

Eliminate the minimum wage.

Government has no legitimate seat between and employer and a prospective employee.

None.
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a buck an/hr??

surrrre that will help stimulate growth. not.

I think the ones who don't like "minimum wage" are the ones who own businesses and would like to maximize their profits as much as possible at the expense of the WORKER SLAVES holding their businesses together. They could give 3 fucks if the wage can bill your bills. Then they rook the customers too by overpricing on cheap CHINESE products.

then they have the balls to bitch when the SLAVES can't afford to live on $1/hr.

pffft.
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You are delusional if you think that would rvrn put a dent in welfare and food stamps. Getting rid of Obummer will do more.
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You all are missing the point why all these programs were created in the first place. The programs create no inflation because the dollars used to fund them are just recycled dollars gained and re-distributed from taxes. Employment on the other hand creates massive inflation because when you have Production/Investment/Output you utilize the fractional lending system (how the monetary system works and how dollars are created) and creates more money from nothing faster (That means for every dollar saved in a bank (from production) that bank lends out $9 dollars created out of thin air and it is put on their balance sheet as a receivable (asset).
You must realize you cannot have this inflation domestically (employment) while we are distributing freshly printed dollars to the rest of the world through the reserve currency system while trying to print the worlds banks back into solvency. The combined inflation of employment domestically and the printing of money would overwhelm the system with inflation and kill the dollar ahead of schedule. Why do you think "Green" energies or even our domestic over abundance of NG is never utilized and made to fail?

You guessed it! To save the Reserve/Petrodollar status of the U.S.Dollar and it's use worldwide. Rather simple really!

There is no intent to end welfare or people feeding off the Goberment dole. You people are trying to over think a simple explanation.

Really !
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Simple !
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think of it this way

it's because of minimum wage that EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING is made in china now

that's why the USA has lost its entire manufacturing base

this is actually what neutered the USA

minimum wage and credit to anyone who wants it..

things DO cost more in America than the rest of the world..

it's all relative you see

to a chinamen just out of the bush $2 an hour is a shitload

the USA cannot compete with that worker because of minimum wage
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Dead on Trin!!!
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a true capitalistic economy would have no minimum wage at all

the free market would dictate the going rate for skilled and unskilled labor

where we went wrong was allowing the USA to stray from it's hardcore founding principles

USA was not founded on the idea of dictating a wage or taxing it for that matter
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^

BS. A job is a just a means to an end - to MAKE MONEY to purchase goods that support a living. If a job doesn't pay enough to support a living in decent conditions, then it's useless.

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