Wanna End Foodstamps? Wanna End Welfare? Raise The Minimum Wage To $10.00 Per Hr. | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24625208 United States 09/29/2012 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those demanding a min wage increase are economic illiterates. Quoting: [email protected] What happens when you do that is the businesses then need to raise their prices to cover their increased labor costs. This wipes out the wage rise. And it's not just min wages that go up - the whole wage scale shifts higher to accomodate the increase on the bottom end. So the price increases reflect this entire shift and will render any wage increase moot because of higher prices. Dumbasses. That's the moron argument that doesn't hold water. There are no studies that show an increase in the minimum wage has caused inflation. it would infuse more money into the economy thus stimulating it |
Lime Flavoured Redux User ID: 22543554 United Kingdom 09/29/2012 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where are all the haters now? Yow wanna enjoy hating the victim some more or do you want to create a real solution. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14159363 America needs a minimum wage of $10.00 an hour just to be able to survive and that is with benefits. Without benefits the minimum wage should be at least $11.50 per hour. What Say Ye? "what say ye"? You're a high school idiot. There should not be a minimum wage. If you are willing to work for a buck an hour why my idiot friend should the government tell you, YOU CAN'T. Be sure to eat your veggies and don't buy a drink greater than 16ozs.... Oh yeah baby, let the government tell you what to do, when to it. Maybe they can help you with your bowel moments too... The minimum wage is for Honey Boo Boos of the voting public. Are you a "Honey Boo Boo"? Even if you were willing to work for $1 an hour, could you pay for rent and food on about $40 per week? |
The Logic User ID: 24528135 United States 09/29/2012 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2696379 United States 09/29/2012 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where are all the haters now? Yow wanna enjoy hating the victim some more or do you want to create a real solution. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14159363 America needs a minimum wage of $10.00 an hour just to be able to survive and that is with benefits. Without benefits the minimum wage should be at least $11.50 per hour. What Say Ye? there shouldnt be a mim wage period |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24599639 United States 09/29/2012 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's no exaggeration to say that the business model of America's low-wage employers depends on a generous government safety net, since without that net many of their workers would not be able to survive. So all of us are subsidizing the wealthy owners and executives of Wal-Mart, McDonalds, and Target. Alas, few of us seem to realize this. All of us are hurt, too, by the way that the low-wage model drags down economic growth. If you give a low-wage worker higher wages, they immediately pump that money back into the economy through more spending. But if you give a CEO another few million dollars in compensation, he'll most likely just plow that money into his stock portfolio or other savings vehicles, which doesn't do much for the economy since capital is cheap right now and customers are scarce. If we want an economy with robust consumer demand, workers need to a bigger slice of the pie. Business leaders once understood that elementary fact. [link to www.policyshop.net] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24408657 United States 09/29/2012 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's the moron argument that doesn't hold water. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24599639 There are no studies that show an increase in the minimum wage has caused inflation. My God are you stupid!!!! When I was a boy, the minimum wage was $1.25 an hour. Gasoline was $0.15 a gallon. You could buy 7 gallons of gasoline for an hour's work. Today gas is $4.00 a gallon. You would need a minimum wage of $28.00 an hour to equal my minimum wage in 1965 in purchasing power. But, no, you people are earning only $7.50 an hour now for minimum wage... maybe, what, $10.00? AAHAHAHAHahahahahah.... You're making about 35% of my minimum wage now. And you know why? BECAUSE THE MINIMUM WAGE WAS RAISED AND INFLATION ATE UP EVERY BIT OF YOUR GAIN AND THEN HALF AGAIN AS MUCH. DUMBASSES!!!! |
DERP User ID: 1267719 United States 09/29/2012 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where are all the haters now? Yow wanna enjoy hating the victim some more or do you want to create a real solution. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14159363 America needs a minimum wage of $10.00 an hour just to be able to survive and that is with benefits. Without benefits the minimum wage should be at least $11.50 per hour. What Say Ye? You're wrong. Here's how you end welfare and food stamps and other entitlements: NO MORE. NO WORK = NO EAT = DIE That's what made America the best nation on Earth. Minimal government; minimal federal funding. Up until 1913 there was no income tax. NO WORK = NO EAT = DIE work? Laugh thought id die. die? Somebody would have to bury me. Bury me ? bury me cost money. Money means work. work? laugh thought id die........ |
*HAARP Lady* User ID: 24529351 United States 09/29/2012 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a true capitalistic economy would have no minimum wage at all Quoting: ^TrInItY^ the free market would dictate the going rate for skilled and unskilled labor where we went wrong was allowing the USA to stray from it's hardcore founding principles USA was not founded on the idea of dictating a wage or taxing it for that matter WoW!! Trin - RIGHT ON!!!! Don't get mad - Get a Pepsi! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1454449 United States 09/29/2012 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those demanding a min wage increase are economic illiterates. Quoting: [email protected] What happens when you do that is the businesses then need to raise their prices to cover their increased labor costs. This wipes out the wage rise. And it's not just min wages that go up - the whole wage scale shifts higher to accomodate the increase on the bottom end. So the price increases reflect this entire shift and will render any wage increase moot because of higher prices. Dumbasses. That's the moron argument that doesn't hold water. There are no studies that show an increase in the minimum wage has caused inflation. Have you been to arby's lately? cum hoc ergo propter hoc You're right, wonkish. Big Roast Beef is out to get us. Has nothing to do with wages. |
DERP User ID: 1267719 United States 09/29/2012 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree If you dont like the wages , dont work. Learn to live on the streets. Young generation dont have kids so you have no obligations. That is the only way to change the world. Refuse to be a slave. Dont join the system. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23719187 United States 09/29/2012 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where are all the haters now? Yow wanna enjoy hating the victim some more or do you want to create a real solution. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14159363 America needs a minimum wage of $10.00 an hour just to be able to survive and that is with benefits. Without benefits the minimum wage should be at least $11.50 per hour. What Say Ye? "what say ye"? You're a high school idiot. There should not be a minimum wage. If you are willing to work for a buck an hour why my idiot friend should the government tell you, YOU CAN'T. Be sure to eat your veggies and don't buy a drink greater than 16ozs.... Oh yeah baby, let the government tell you what to do, when to it. Maybe they can help you with your bowel moments too... The minimum wage is for Honey Boo Boos of the voting public. Are you a "Honey Boo Boo"? Even if you were willing to work for $1 an hour, could you pay for rent and food on about $40 per week? DON'T TAKE THE JOB. But, maybe your 12 year old son might like it. Oh that's right, we don't let 12 year olds work... unless it's on a farm.... driving heavy farm equipment and they work for room and board. You didn't answer the question: Are you a "Honey Boo Boo" voter? Did you get your Obama phone yet...? Hey, here something you might like, 7/11 is giving away FREE Obama coffee this week.... run "Honey Boo Boo" run.... Free Obama stuff!!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23746394 United States 09/29/2012 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Minimum wage keeps many people out of the work force due to no skills. This keeps them on government aid the rest of their life. Free market is the way to go not government intervention which ends up causing us to outsource jobs, and use illegal aliens. Good try though. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3927377 Norway 09/29/2012 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where are all the haters now? Yow wanna enjoy hating the victim some more or do you want to create a real solution. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14159363 America needs a minimum wage of $10.00 an hour just to be able to survive and that is with benefits. Without benefits the minimum wage should be at least $11.50 per hour. What Say Ye? You're wrong. Here's how you end welfare and food stamps and other entitlements: NO MORE. NO WORK = NO EAT = DIE That's what made America the best nation on Earth. Minimal government; minimal federal funding. Up until 1913 there was no income tax. NO WORK = NO EAT = DIE Minimum wage should be $0.00 You get paid what you're worth and not a penny more. And if you're a stupid roid, you get fired for being a stupid roid. Lazy bastards starve. Stupid bastards starve. It's called EVOLUTION, people. It's called SLAVERY which america was a world leader in a few years ago. And still is if you count the prison factory's. |
DERP User ID: 1267719 United States 09/29/2012 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You need a maximum wage. If you are going to have a minimum , you also need a maximum. You have to many wealthy people " aka" multi-million/billionaires. Business income to be maintained within a business , not personal profit. All Profits should remain in a business account , with stiff penalty's for anyone taking out over 500 thousand every 5 years for personal accounts. Last Edited by <x> on 09/29/2012 04:42 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1148772 United States 09/29/2012 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where are all the haters now? Yow wanna enjoy hating the victim some more or do you want to create a real solution. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14159363 America needs a minimum wage of $10.00 an hour just to be able to survive and that is with benefits. Without benefits the minimum wage should be at least $11.50 per hour. What Say Ye? [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24384406 United States 09/29/2012 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You all are missing the point why all these programs were created in the first place. The programs create no inflation because the dollars used to fund them are just recycled dollars gained and re-distributed from taxes. Employment on the other hand creates massive inflation because when you have Production/Investment/Output you utilize the fractional lending system (how the monetary system works and how dollars are created) and creates more money from nothing faster (That means for every dollar saved in a bank (from production) that bank lends out $9 dollars created out of thin air and it is put on their balance sheet as a receivable (asset). You must realize you cannot have this inflation domestically (employment) while we are distributing freshly printed dollars to the rest of the world through the reserve currency system while trying to print the worlds banks back into solvency. The combined inflation of employment domestically and the printing of money would overwhelm the system with inflation and kill the dollar ahead of schedule. Why do you think "Green" energies or even our domestic over abundance of NG is never utilized and made to fail? You guessed it! To save the Reserve/Petrodollar status of the U.S.Dollar and it's use worldwide. Rather simple really! There is no intent to end welfare or people feeding off the Goberment dole. You people are trying to over think a simple explanation. Really ! |
Lime Flavoured Redux User ID: 22543554 United Kingdom 09/29/2012 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where are all the haters now? Yow wanna enjoy hating the victim some more or do you want to create a real solution. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14159363 America needs a minimum wage of $10.00 an hour just to be able to survive and that is with benefits. Without benefits the minimum wage should be at least $11.50 per hour. What Say Ye? "what say ye"? You're a high school idiot. There should not be a minimum wage. If you are willing to work for a buck an hour why my idiot friend should the government tell you, YOU CAN'T. Be sure to eat your veggies and don't buy a drink greater than 16ozs.... Oh yeah baby, let the government tell you what to do, when to it. Maybe they can help you with your bowel moments too... The minimum wage is for Honey Boo Boos of the voting public. Are you a "Honey Boo Boo"? Even if you were willing to work for $1 an hour, could you pay for rent and food on about $40 per week? DON'T TAKE THE JOB. But, maybe your 12 year old son might like it. Oh that's right, we don't let 12 year olds work... unless it's on a farm.... driving heavy farm equipment and they work for room and board. You didn't answer the question: Are you a "Honey Boo Boo" voter? Did you get your Obama phone yet...? Hey, here something you might like, 7/11 is giving away FREE Obama coffee this week.... run "Honey Boo Boo" run.... Free Obama stuff!!! As it happens I'd vote for Jill Stein were I American, so no, I wouldn't vote for Obama. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17549114 United States 09/29/2012 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where are all the haters now? Yow wanna enjoy hating the victim some more or do you want to create a real solution. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14159363 America needs a minimum wage of $10.00 an hour just to be able to survive and that is with benefits. Without benefits the minimum wage should be at least $11.50 per hour. What Say Ye? "what say ye"? You're a high school idiot. There should not be a minimum wage. If you are willing to work for a buck an hour why my idiot friend should the government tell you, YOU CAN'T. Be sure to eat your veggies and don't buy a drink greater than 16ozs.... Oh yeah baby, let the government tell you what to do, when to it. Maybe they can help you with your bowel moments too... The minimum wage is for Honey Boo Boos of the voting public. Are you a "Honey Boo Boo"? Even if you were willing to work for $1 an hour, could you pay for rent and food on about $40 per week? DON'T TAKE THE JOB. But, maybe your 12 year old son might like it. Oh that's right, we don't let 12 year olds work... unless it's on a farm.... driving heavy farm equipment and they work for room and board. You didn't answer the question: Are you a "Honey Boo Boo" voter? Did you get your Obama phone yet...? Hey, here something you might like, 7/11 is giving away FREE Obama coffee this week.... run "Honey Boo Boo" run.... Free Obama stuff!!! The economy is fucked and you think the people at the bottom did it! We live in a Jenga world. That shit falls from the top. Look at Obama phone lady, does she look like she has the QE3 dollars. The economy is fucked and poor people are still poor |
fadeinlight User ID: 21454144 United States 09/29/2012 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You raise minimum wage, the price of labor goes up, the price of the product goes up, it becomes -even more- attractive for companies to export labor overseas... I'm so tired of these liberal idiots coming here and bring their economic solutions dreamt up by people like Cornelius West--people who -don't- have experience in business. The problem is stupid people like the OP. |
Instant Karma User ID: 1025379 United States 09/29/2012 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Corporations have always tried to lower the cost of labor to as close to zero as they can get. That's why they have moved most manufacturing overseas where labor is dirt cheap, with no health benefits, or environmental regulations or pensions. That's where an unregulated free market gets you: a polluted, toxic hell on earth with no middle class, just the super rich and the peasant class. Is that the world we want to live in? And with no middle class, who's going to buy the cars and washing machines and iPhones? No one. So in the end, it's not even in the corporations interest to underpay their labor force or to pollute the planet. But they don't see the big picture. Last Edited by Gimme Some Truth on 09/29/2012 04:48 PM Dollar Deception: How Banks Secretly Create Money: [link to www.webofdebt.com] ALTERED GENES, TWISTED TRUTH: How the Venture to Genetically Engineer Our Food Has Subverted Science, Corrupted Government, and Systematically Deceived the Public: [link to www.amazon.com] 2028 End? [link to 2028end.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14332235 United States 09/29/2012 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a true capitalistic economy would have no minimum wage at all Quoting: ^TrInItY^ the free market would dictate the going rate for skilled and unskilled labor where we went wrong was allowing the USA to stray from it's hardcore founding principles USA was not founded on the idea of dictating a wage or taxing it for that matter yeah sadly there is no more land to take over. and we cant just walk around with pistols anymore. |
The Governor User ID: 24622449 United States 09/29/2012 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wanna end poverty? Eliminate the minimum wage. Government has no legitimate seat between and employer and a prospective employee. None. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23367695 Canada 09/29/2012 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a buck an/hr?? surrrre that will help stimulate growth. not. I think the ones who don't like "minimum wage" are the ones who own businesses and would like to maximize their profits as much as possible at the expense of the WORKER SLAVES holding their businesses together. They could give 3 fucks if the wage can bill your bills. Then they rook the customers too by overpricing on cheap CHINESE products. then they have the balls to bitch when the SLAVES can't afford to live on $1/hr. pffft. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24384406 United States 09/29/2012 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You all are missing the point why all these programs were created in the first place. The programs create no inflation because the dollars used to fund them are just recycled dollars gained and re-distributed from taxes. Employment on the other hand creates massive inflation because when you have Production/Investment/Output you utilize the fractional lending system (how the monetary system works and how dollars are created) and creates more money from nothing faster (That means for every dollar saved in a bank (from production) that bank lends out $9 dollars created out of thin air and it is put on their balance sheet as a receivable (asset). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24384406 You must realize you cannot have this inflation domestically (employment) while we are distributing freshly printed dollars to the rest of the world through the reserve currency system while trying to print the worlds banks back into solvency. The combined inflation of employment domestically and the printing of money would overwhelm the system with inflation and kill the dollar ahead of schedule. Why do you think "Green" energies or even our domestic over abundance of NG is never utilized and made to fail? You guessed it! To save the Reserve/Petrodollar status of the U.S.Dollar and it's use worldwide. Rather simple really! There is no intent to end welfare or people feeding off the Goberment dole. You people are trying to over think a simple explanation. Really ! Simple ! |
Jericho9 User ID: 7913305 United States 09/29/2012 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | think of it this way Quoting: ^TrInItY^ it's because of minimum wage that EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING is made in china now that's why the USA has lost its entire manufacturing base this is actually what neutered the USA minimum wage and credit to anyone who wants it.. things DO cost more in America than the rest of the world.. it's all relative you see to a chinamen just out of the bush $2 an hour is a shitload the USA cannot compete with that worker because of minimum wage Dead on Trin!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22060914 Spain 09/29/2012 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a true capitalistic economy would have no minimum wage at all Quoting: ^TrInItY^ the free market would dictate the going rate for skilled and unskilled labor where we went wrong was allowing the USA to stray from it's hardcore founding principles USA was not founded on the idea of dictating a wage or taxing it for that matter BS. A job is a just a means to an end - to MAKE MONEY to purchase goods that support a living. If a job doesn't pay enough to support a living in decent conditions, then it's useless. |